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Max_Tab
02-13-2004, 13:40
Who put the saying "From the rest, comes the best", and what the h#$% is it suppose to mean?

Team Sergeant
02-13-2004, 13:42
You have a 3rd Gp coin?

Max_Tab
02-13-2004, 13:54
LMAO no actually I don't. I think I have a 3rd Group CJSOTF coin from A-stan somewhere. And I do have a btn hat.

Team Sergeant
02-13-2004, 15:47
Originally posted by Max_Tab
LMAO no actually I don't. I

Now how do you think I knew that......

Find someone that does have a Third Group coin and post here what it says.......

Team Sergeant

Roguish Lawyer
02-13-2004, 15:52
Hopefully this isn't going to get me an offer I can't refuse . . .

Max_Tab
02-13-2004, 15:52
I don't suppose "We do bad things to bad people" would count. Btn motto, (yeah I know it's gay)

Or how about "Africa? Where the hell is that?"

Roguish Lawyer
02-13-2004, 15:54
and the back . . .

Team Sergeant
02-13-2004, 15:55
Actually I saw one of those T-shirts when they first came out and thought it was a great motto.

But the group motto is the one above..... Thanks RL

Max_Tab
02-13-2004, 15:56
Alright I stand corrected. But hey at least there are now 2 whole threads in this section. :D

NousDefionsDoc
02-13-2004, 16:31
Are you sharp shooting us there Commo Man? You think we don't have research assistants and check out stuff?

Surgicalcric
02-13-2004, 16:39
Research Assistant huh?

Almost as good as Crip. :D

Roguish Lawyer
02-13-2004, 16:43
Originally posted by Surgicalcric
Research Assistant huh?

Almost as good as Crip. :D

If you're interpreting that as a dig on me, I didn't take it that way. I do research for a living.

Surgicalcric
02-13-2004, 16:46
Quite to the contrary RL. I seem to be doing some research here lately myself.

NousDefionsDoc
02-13-2004, 17:11
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
If you're interpreting that as a dig on me, I didn't take it that way. I do research for a living.

LOL, inside joke. Calm down.

Max_Tab
02-13-2004, 17:37
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Are you sharp shooting us there Commo Man? You think we don't have research assistants and check out stuff?

I would never do that, I'll go back to memorizing my Tri graph.

DoctorDoom
03-03-2004, 14:39
x

NousDefionsDoc
03-03-2004, 14:52
Sure, worst that can happen is we call you a girl with a man's gu...Oh wait.

DoctorDoom
03-03-2004, 15:15
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colmurph
03-03-2004, 16:41
I think Dr.Doom has got it right. That's how it was explained to me when I joined the group in 1966.

The Reaper
03-03-2004, 18:10
Originally posted by DoctorDoom
LOL... well with that encouragement here goes:

Based on my very limited research, 3rd Group was established with personnel from the 1st, 5th, 7th, and Training Groups of 1st Special Forces. The motto would seem to reflect that lineage.

Is that an accurate appreciation of the meaning behind the motto?

You forgot 10th Group, but that is understandable, we do it too.

TR

Team Sergeant
03-03-2004, 20:15
Originally posted by colmurph
I think Dr.Doom has got it right. That's how it was explained to me when I joined the group in 1966.

That would be correct as I understand it Col.

TS

DoctorDoom
03-04-2004, 00:56
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Guy
03-04-2004, 08:01
Originally posted by DoctorDoom
LOL... well with that encouragement here goes:

Based on my very limited research, 3rd Group was established with personnel from the 1st, 5th, 7th, and Training Groups of 1st Special Forces. The motto would seem to reflect that lineage.

Is that an accurate appreciation of the meaning behind the motto?

Way back in the days that may have been true however, when 3rd Group was re-established it was stood up by guys from 3rd Bn 5thSFG(A) and became 1st Bn 3rd SFG(A)...there was only one battalion for a while.

longrange1947
03-04-2004, 19:12
Originally posted by The Reaper
You forgot 10th Group, but that is understandable, we do it too.

TR

Actually TR, 10th did not contribute to 3rd as they were in Germany. The colors of the 3rd Group flash indicate the groups involved in the establishment of the Group. The original flash showed a blending of htese groups into one, but alas, some PC idiot thought it resembled a nazi swastika and had it removed.

Old memories, may be off abit but ColMurph can confirm or deny.

The Reaper
03-04-2004, 19:19
I'll take your word for it, LR.

Would have thought that they would have gotten someone from 10th as part of their diversity program. :D

TR

BMT (RIP)
03-04-2004, 19:25
You have to remember when the 3d Gp. was activated we didn't have that COO/PC shit in the Army. The young ladies were still called WAC's!!

BMT
Sr.FOG

longrange1947
03-04-2004, 20:16
And a target rich environment it was too! :D

ATeamFOG
03-15-2004, 15:45
"From the rest, comes the best"

3rd Special Forces Group (Airborne) 1st Special Forces

5 December 1963 Activated Fort Bragg, NC

18 February 1964 Personnel Transferred from the 1st, 7th, 5th and Training Groups (Airborne) to make up the 3rd SF Group, giving the Group the Colors for its Flash

Yellow from the 1st Special Forces Group (Airborne)

Red from the 7th Special Forces Group (Airborne)

Black from the 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne)

White from Special Forces Training Group Group (Airborne)

The 10th had been made up and moved to Germany from the 77th SF, The remaining made up the 7th.

DoctorDoom
03-15-2004, 16:11
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Smokin Joe
03-15-2004, 16:52
Where do the colors of the other Flashes come from? I.E. why is 1st yellow, 7th red,...

longrange1947
03-15-2004, 17:02
The 10th had been made up and moved to Germany from the 77th SF, The remaining made up the 7th.

Actually the 10th went to Germany and left the 77th behind, which was made up of guys from the 10th.

The 77th Company became the 7th Group.

In those days the Company (C Team) is what the Bn is now. The B Team was just a part of the Company.

At least that is my recollections. :D

colmurph
03-31-2004, 12:31
Some liberal PC bastard decided that the colors of the border extending into the next color made the flash "Reminiscent" of the Hakenkreuz and so the border was changed on the new flash. Somebody must have gone home on leave and told his sister who was a member of PETA, that he ate a bunny rabbit on Cherokee Trail. Either that, or he was a 91B4S and told her about "Dog Lab".LOL

Capt_G
05-14-2004, 22:58
I was a SOT-A guy in 2d Bn from 90-96. When I first got to Bragg in the fall of 90 some of the guys bought their 3d Gp flashes on Yadkin road and all that was available at the time off post were the old flashes. Some of those shops must have had a stash from when 3d Gp deactivated. At any rate, you should have heard the bitching and monaing over those flashes by the CSM. The words swastika and nazi were thrown around alot.

longrange1947
05-16-2004, 13:45
Originally posted by Capt_G
I was a SOT-A guy in 2d Bn from 90-96. When I first got to Bragg in the fall of 90 some of the guys bought their 3d Gp flashes on Yadkin road and all that was available at the time off post were the old flashes. Some of those shops must have had a stash from when 3d Gp deactivated. At any rate, you should have heard the bitching and monaing over those flashes by the CSM. The words swastika and nazi were thrown around alot.

Once again proving that the ignorance of one's history(the blending of the four Groups into one Group) can cause a loss of heritage(the loss of the blended flash).

It is a shame that SGMs can be that dam dumb.

Capt_G
05-16-2004, 17:42
What I think is REALLY interesting is that I have seen a Sioux Indian symbol that is round and uses the same colors and has the border like the old 3d Group flash. Makes me wonder if it wasn't an inspiration for the flash.
Also, not to defend the politically correct mindset of the time, but just as we were standing up 3d Group there was a scandal involving the "theft" of unit weapons from 7th Group and implicated were a few guys with ties with white supremacy groups.

The Reaper
05-16-2004, 18:14
Originally posted by Capt_G
Also, not to defend the politically correct mindset of the time, but just as we were standing up 3d Group there was a scandal involving the "theft" of unit weapons from 7th Group and implicated were a few guys with ties with white supremacy groups.

Capt_G:

Are you SF qualified?

TR

Capt_G
05-16-2004, 22:43
TR,
That is a BIG Negative. I was on SOT-A 306 from 90-96 before making the great leap over to the Air Force.
Capt G

Capt_G
05-22-2004, 12:49
Amazing how many ex-3d Group folks end up at SOCPAC. When I got here there were quite a few and yesterday I showed up at Lightning DZ and the 87th QM Dets new Warrant used to work at the 3d Group Rigger shed.

NousDefions794
03-23-2005, 10:20
When I got to 3rd in 91 there was NO money period. We practically had to have bake sales just to deploy. Seemed like every staff officer out there wanted to save Uncle Sam's money. Our motto was "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap". Didn't go over well with Bn or Grp. Oh how the times have changed.

Capt_G
03-23-2005, 10:48
Yeah, I can remember that. I lost money every time we went anywhere.

The Reaper
03-23-2005, 13:02
I was at USASFC when 3rd Group was going to Haiti. They took away the Sep Rats and declined the UN Peacekeeping pay as part of the USG contribution to the cause. Very bad for morale.

When I was back in 7th Group a year or two later, I was at Finance picking up an advance for a 90 day deployment down South. As I was at the cage counting the $13,000 or so, the SF guys I had been in line with were bugging and asked me how long I was gone. When I told them, they were amazed and showed me their settlements for six months in Haiti for less than $500.

Pretty scary, and they wonder why we can't retain people now.

TR

Capt_G
03-23-2005, 13:08
Yeah, I remember all of that crap. It sucked watching the Pakis during UNMIH getting fat . One of many the reasons I switched services.

colmurph
03-23-2005, 21:51
Actually TR, 10th did not contribute to 3rd as they were in Germany. The colors of the 3rd Group flash indicate the groups involved in the establishment of the Group. The original flash showed a blending of htese groups into one, but alas, some PC idiot thought it resembled a nazi swastika and had it removed.

Old memories, may be off abit but ColMurph can confirm or deny.


Absolutely correct....I've got one of the original flashes and the colors of one cell run into the next cell on the outside so the end result is that it appears to be a swastika with a curved bottom. It was changed when 3d Group stood up again in 1990.

Snaquebite
12-28-2006, 16:44
Anyone still an old 2/3 shirt circa 92-94???? I do.... Kinsinger hated those shirts..... "Dirty Jobs Done Dirt Cheap" B/2/3 started that and it just grew....shirts were everywhere...I think I remember a memo from Kinsinger saying he didn't want to see them anymore in the group area.

The Reaper
12-28-2006, 17:56
Anyone still an old 2/3 shirt circa 92-94???? I do.... Kinsinger hated those shirts..... "Dirty Jobs Done Dirt Cheap" B/2/3 started that and it just grew....shirts were everywhere...I think I remember a memo from Kinsinger saying he didn't want to see them anymore in the group area.

Well, after Haiti, it sort of made sense, didn't it?:D

TR

Snaquebite
12-28-2006, 18:37
Sure did, and it didn't get any better for a long time...Teams were deploying on 6 month JCETs on MRE's ...I found out the teams were authorized T-rats & money for food off the economy and had them start ordering them...required an additional aircraft to deploy teams after that...Group was not happy.

CDRODA396
12-28-2006, 20:33
Wow, this is an old thread that got new life breathed into it! :D

When I was in the Q in '95, no one wanted 3rd because of the money thing, when I went through the Group CIF, I literally got a mesquito bar, period! Things didnt really turn around until COL McCrackin got the Group involved in ACRI which pushed some duckies the Group's way, and COL Jones had the foresight to get us dual apportioned with CENTCOM and since 9/11, things have gotten much better. But it goes to show that if you screw with Army money, like I understand Kinnsigner and Schroer did by trying to turn in money at the end of each FY, how long it takes to recover.

Z731
12-28-2006, 20:54
Wow!! I remember when 3rd GP came back on line and there was a huge morale problem. They used to take seperate rations away from guys that went to SOTIC and SOT at MOTT Lake. That was the story anyway. COL Kensinger was the scourge of SF at the time.

As far as the motto goes I will say they got some of the best. My Company SGM at the time was SGM XXXXXXXX. We knew the two pieces of sh@# we wanted to get rid of and send to 3rd Group. We thought for sure the SGM would see it our way. He didn't. He made every single E7 and below put their name in a hat and he drew two names out. Two outstanding troops names were pulled from that hat. We were dumbfounded that they had to pack their bags and leave. 3rd Group got two outstanding individuals.

It took me a few years to realize what SGM XXXXXXX did was a good thing.

3rd Group thrives now because we did send them great individuals when they got started. They are now a premier Special Forces Group.

Z

Capt_G
12-29-2006, 07:19
I was in 2/3 from 90-96 and remember those t-shirts very well. The word on Kinsinger when he came to 3d Gp was that he was a spendthrift as a Bn Cdr in 5th and he was going places. Apparently both things were true. The difference in morale between 3d and 7th was night and day but a few years later when Parker took over 7th Gp I heard he instituted the same Sep Rats policy 3d had suffered under.

The Reaper
12-29-2006, 08:35
Well, given those examples, treating guys like that and saving the government money whenever possible does not seem to have hurt too many careers now, does it?

Clearly, that style is rewarded.

TR

Capt_G
12-29-2006, 10:42
Although it was before Kensinger came to 3d Gp I seem to recall losing my Sep Rats for SERE. Apparently they fed us while we were there.

x SF med
12-29-2006, 10:47
Although it was before Kensinger came to 3d Gp I seem to recall losing my Sep Rats for SERE. Apparently they fed us while we were there.

Sir- that is the best use of irony I've seen in a long time, LMMFAO.

HvyHog
01-01-2007, 21:31
When 3/5 became 1/3, we did have a new motto. It was on the Gp coin but the Gp CSM didn't like it so it was changed. The first motto after being reactivated was "hard times call for hard men". It was then changed to "the quiet profossionals". A few CSMs later, it was changed to the current motto. As for being dual task to CENTCOM and EUCOM, 3rd has always be tasked to both. And the only thing COL Jones did for 3rd Gp was to disband the pilot teams because we would never do a UW mission again. Great vision!!!! If you cant tell, I am not a fan of COL Jones.

MtnGoat
01-02-2007, 04:39
Although it was before Kensinger came to 3d Gp I seem to recall losing my Sep Rats for SERE. Apparently they fed us while we were there.
Now this is funny.. its road kill isn't it??

Food haHa

Capt_G
01-02-2007, 06:24
I am a pretty big fan of Mike Jones. He got me out of a speeding ticket in Haiti. Long story but it involved my driver and me leaving a coating of dust all over the 25th ID CSM and ADC-M on our way to Camp D'App.
Funny that he was anti-UW, because when he was my Bn CO Col Mark Boyatt was Gp CO. Boyatt was Mr UW.

kachingchingpow
01-04-2007, 07:38
RE: 3/3 "Hard times don't last, but hard men do" sounds like something Viagra might run during the Superbowl half time commercials.

Capt_G
01-04-2007, 07:56
RE: 3/3 "Hard times don't last, but hard men do" sounds like something Viagra might run during the Superbowl half time commercials.
I think most of us know at least one former 3d Grouper who that doesn't apply to...Dave Schroer.

GreenSalsa
01-04-2007, 14:11
I think most of us know at least one former 3d Grouper who that doesn't apply to...Dave Schroer.

UGH!!!!

:eek:

As far as the "spendthrift" ways of 3rd SFG goes, my team had a JTF6 mission (paid for by JTF6) at Brownsville TX during spring break. My BN XO wanted us to use MREs because he thought he could save taxpayers money with us eating them in hotel rooms instead of per diem.

It took all of my powers (and math) to convince him that packaging, purchasing, shipping, storing, and inspecting MRE was more expensive than the $32 a day per diem. I won by showing him it was more cost effective to the US taxpayer (saving $1.25 per day) for us to be "given" per diem by another command.

He is the same officer that turned down the DOS offer to pay us per diem for Operation Focus Relief missions in Africa ("my men are Green Berets, they don't want money").

Capt_G
01-05-2007, 22:17
I just love it when officers (and yes I became an Officer, but not one of this ilk) make sweeping statements about money on behalf of enlisted men. Its usually to the tune of, "We don't do this for money". Generally the higher the rank, the more often you hear it. I used to counter with, "No we don't, but it sure as hell helps".

Z731
01-05-2007, 23:51
I am a 7th Group guy who thinks 3rd has their stuff straight. They train like animals and have some problems. I know 7th Group does the same and something tells me the other groups aren't sitting on their butts.

They went through some incredible growing pains but look at their incredible success and their equally incredible sacrifices.

They have lost great men in combat,

Z

AxeMan
03-12-2007, 16:14
I remember the lean times in 3/3rd SFG(A) just after the first Haiti deployment under LTC Schroer (http://www.aclu.org/lgbt/transgender/12255res20050602.html). Every trip we went on, we lost separate rats, had almost no budget, and had to eat MRE’s or buy food on our own dime. Just prior to my first trip to Uganda, my 18C had the team members all chip in personal $$ to buy a chainsaw because they wouldn’t buy us one out of the trip budget. Anyone who has been to that region knows that the wood there is impossible to cut with normal tools and we had to build our base camp from scratch, as there were no buildings at our training site. Amazing how quickly the game and money has changed.

I was one of those guys standing in line at the cage in finance waiting for my $500 while the 7th Groupers were walking away with big wads of cash.

During a jumpmaster MTT in Zimbabwe, LTC Schroer (http://www.aclu.org/lgbt/transgender/12255res20050602.html) had us eating (starving) in the host nation mess hall at One Commando for (about) $1.00 a day for three meals per soldier. Dudes had to go downtown to Harare to get their own food because they were just not getting enough to eat. Even though many complained about the poor conditions of the rations, nothing was done about it. Eventually, guys started raiding the supply of MRE’s that were brought for contingencies. LTC Schroer (http://www.aclu.org/lgbt/transgender/12255res20050602.html) was so pissed off about soldiers “stealing” food that he had all personnel in country (including teams from remote sites conducting JCET’s) assemble at One Commando military base to get their ass chewed for being dishonest and weak soldiers.

If you followed the link on this post you would understand how ironic all of this was. I can’t believe that we have leaders like this in SF.

How many of you QP’s out there can say you got your ass chewed by a transgender freak?
……MDW

Monsoon65
03-25-2007, 17:21
How many of you QPs out there can say you got your ass chewed by a transgender freak?.......


Thank you, AxeMan. It's now official. I've seen it all, and I'm scarred for life because of it.

The Reaper
03-25-2007, 18:19
Yeah, but the good news is now that he is a woman, he is a lesbian woman.

Still chasing chicks, just without the right equipment now, which some would argue he never really had in the first place.

TR

AxeMan
03-25-2007, 20:29
Yeah, but the good news is now that he is a woman, he is a lesbian woman.

Still chasing chicks, just without the right equipment now, which some would argue he never really had in the first place.

TR

I'm glad you pointed that out TR. I actually decided not to look into that part of his/her life because I didn't want to find out that he was secretly checking us out back then. There are still quite a few guys in 3/3rd SFG(A) that were there during that time. I will let them know that he wasn't checking us out.
He really was a D#$K HEAD though!
........MDW

InfantryPL
12-02-2007, 23:21
"If you followed the link on this post you would understand how ironic all of this was. I cant believe that we have leaders like this in SF."



Holy s--t!!!!!!!!

CosaNostraUSMC
12-03-2007, 19:41
What're the odds that "Mrs. Schroer" was in town for San Francisco's Fleet Week?

Disclaimer: I'm not SF qual'd, and while his transformation into a her is shocking, she still had the balls, when she was a he, to earn the title of QP, before he traded up his pocket aces to become a she... so I don't feel I rate to bust her balls... well... figurative balls... that is... when he had balls before he became she.:confused:

glebo
12-04-2007, 11:56
Anyone still an old 2/3 shirt circa 92-94???? I do.... Kinsinger hated those shirts..... "Dirty Jobs Done Dirt Cheap" B/2/3 started that and it just grew....shirts were everywhere...I think I remember a memo from Kinsinger saying he didn't want to see them anymore in the group area.

Ha Ha, I remember that well, I think it was our guys on 352 that had them made, Doug V and Ron Pm (I think, gettin' old ya know). Remember that underground newspaper?? Was it the bend-Over-Daily, or BOHICA or something like that. I know the CoC was out to get whoever it was.

Yup, those were the days, one ODA, 1/2 pallet mission essential gear and two pallets of T-Rats on a C-130 to do a mission. Gotta love it....NOT. I had to keep a guy back from training every day to be "hootch bitch", prepare t-rats, and warm up the immersion heaters. (yes we had to bring those also)

SF_BHT
12-04-2007, 12:53
I remember the lean times in 3/3rd SFG(A) just after the first Haiti deployment under LTC Schroer (http://www.aclu.org/lgbt/transgender/12255res20050602.html). Every trip we went on, we lost separate rats, had almost no budget, and had to eat MREs or buy food on our own dime. Just prior to my first trip to Uganda, my 18C had the team members all chip in personal $$ to buy a chainsaw because they wouldnt buy us one out of the trip budget. Anyone who has been to that region knows that the wood there is impossible to cut with normal tools and we had to build our base camp from scratch, as there were no buildings at our training site. Amazing how quickly the game and money has changed.

I was one of those guys standing in line at the cage in finance waiting for my $500 while the 7th Groupers were walking away with big wads of cash.

During a jumpmaster MTT in Zimbabwe, LTC Schroer (http://www.aclu.org/lgbt/transgender/12255res20050602.html) had us eating (starving) in the host nation mess hall at One Commando for (about) $1.00 a day for three meals per soldier. Dudes had to go downtown to Harare to get their own food because they were just not getting enough to eat. Even though many complained about the poor conditions of the rations, nothing was done about it. Eventually, guys started raiding the supply of MREs that were brought for contingencies. LTC Schroer (http://www.aclu.org/lgbt/transgender/12255res20050602.html) was so pissed off about soldiers stealing food that he had all personnel in country (including teams from remote sites conducting JCETs) assemble at One Commando military base to get their ass chewed for being dishonest and weak soldiers.

If you followed the link on this post you would understand how ironic all of this was. I cant believe that we have leaders like this in SF.

How many of you QPs out there can say you got your ass chewed by a transgender freak?
MDW


He got that Trick From Jim Parker when he was the BC. Starve the teams and show the Higher's that he saved money.

Snaquebite
12-04-2007, 13:28
Yup, those were the days, one ODA, 1/2 pallet mission essential gear and two pallets of T-Rats on a C-130 to do a mission.

Glebo,

I actually did a lot of that research that required them having to send T-Rats with the teams and get you guys money to supplement off the economy. Pissed Group off. They couldn't use just one C-130 to deploy several teams at once anymore. With all the T-Rats each team was authorized they had to schedule multiple 130's to get them into country. I believe they even had to run some T-Rat resupplies a few times

Also remember Schroer cutting all our training during RSU's. Even though it was JTF-6 money and given to the company for training...his position was "It's my job to save the government money". So..."turn that money back to JTF-6".

glebo
12-05-2007, 13:04
this is getting a little off-topic from motos....but things did get better and we finally got some money to eat off the economy, we had chow made by a local hotel for dinner. Was A LOT better than the t's.

I guess you shook the right trees. Funny what falls out once ya shake it?:)

Chairborne64
04-02-2008, 10:12
I don't know I liked the T-Rat Lasagna. Group was always nice enough to buy us a new trash can for the immersion heater:D

Capt_G
04-02-2008, 15:23
Glebo,



Also remember Schroer cutting all our training during RSU's. Even though it was JTF-6 money and given to the company for training...his position was "It's my job to save the government money". So..."turn that money back to JTF-6".

I went in a mission in 94 and Shroer took a whole bunch of money from DNA to buy kit for the op and then issued us stuff from CIF. DNA was thouroughly pissed because we were expected to buy and destroy equipment over the course of what we were doing. I don't know that all of that money was ever actually turned back. I do know that DNA tried to get theirs back.

The Reaper
04-02-2008, 15:35
I went in a mission in 94 and Shroer took a whole bunch of money from DNA to buy kit for the op and then issued us stuff from CIF. DNA was thouroughly pissed because we were expected to buy and destroy equipment over the course of what we were doing. I don't know that all of that money was ever actually turned back. I do know that DNA tried to get theirs back.

IIRC, he/she got into hot water for buying items, like computers, with ACRI money, then leaving them back at Bragg for unit use not associated with the ACRI.

Apparently, someone complained.

TR

Chairborne64
04-03-2008, 10:18
Yes the he/she did get into hot water for that. But it didn't hurt him/her bad enough to keep from making O-6. Plus he then went on to becom an Aquisition Director (AD) at USSOCOM. For those not familiar with the inner workings at USSOCOM the ADs are the guys that get to decide how much funding programs get (SOPMOD, MBITR, BALCS, etc...). It must have been heaven for a person like him/her. You can rest assured that he/she was at least partially responsible for the miserly way that the teams were equipped before 9/11.

Guy
04-03-2008, 13:51
He got that Trick From Jim Parker when he was the BC. Starve the teams and show the Higher's that he saved money.I asked one time..."How the hell do you go TDY and end up losing money?":confused:

Stay safe.

SF_BHT
04-03-2008, 14:38
I asked one time..."How the hell do you go TDY and end up losing money?":confused:

Stay safe.

He probably said that it took too much time to fill out the TDY orders..... It was easier to stop your separate rats and issue MRE's.......

One time BG Parker was in SA and I asked him why he wanted to fuck over the guys in 1/3 and he said 7th goes TDY and 3rd goes to Africa. He was drawing full per-diem when we were talking and he was staying in the best hotel in the capital. :p

Guy
04-04-2008, 08:56
He probably said that it took too much time to fill out the TDY orders..... It was easier to stop your separate rats and issue MRE's.......The first time we went TDY while in SWC, the guys from 7th had fill out all the guys from 3rd TDY vouchers.:o

One time BG Parker was in SA and I asked him why he wanted to fuck over the guys in 1/3 and he said 7th goes TDY and 3rd goes to Africa. He was drawing full per-diem when we were talking and he was staying in the best hotel in the capital. :pHell of morale building right there!:D

Stay safe.

Guy
04-04-2008, 09:00
Although it was before Kensinger came to 3d Gp I seem to recall losing my Sep Rats for SERE. Apparently they fed us while we were there.Somebody had too pay for the chickens, rabbits, goat and all the garbage cans you guys raided while in the FTX portion.:D

Stay safe.

The Reaper
04-04-2008, 09:33
One time BG Parker was in SA and I asked him why he wanted to fuck over the guys in 1/3 and he said 7th goes TDY and 3rd goes to Africa. He was drawing full per-diem when we were talking and he was staying in the best hotel in the capital. :p

''Oderint dum metuant''

Not just Caligula's line.

TR

Guy
04-04-2008, 10:23
''Oderint dum metuant''

Not just Caligula's line.

TRNext thing you know...there's a hole in the wall!

Stay safe.

rltipton
07-23-2008, 20:16
Wow this thread brought back a lot of memories from the 90's. I was in 2/3 from 92-98. I never had one of the battalion Tshirts, but our team shirts were pretty retarded, yet not as retarded as some others. Dudes with weird shit dyed into their hair were not uncommon either.

Anyone remember when group sent out those flyers and asked that we draw up ideas for a new group coin? They got back pictures of a vetical penis with "Bend over and take it like a man" and "No dough we will go" under it, crossed spoons & forks with a vertical steak knife and "We do FID for food," and some others that sent group into an uproar, so they dropped that idea and created the "Hard times..." coins.

Speaking of the "Hard times don't last..." coins, remember when 2/3 had the female S4 who threw a shit fit about that coin? They actually stopped printing them for several years and went back to the one someone posted a photo of until finally someone had the balls to say screw it and make the Hard Times coins again.

I loved being in 2/3. We were pretty tight back in those days. We were a one big happy family for the most part. We sure had a blast going to the Caribbean, even though we paid to go, and we worked hard, played harder.

Also, rumor had it that all that taking our money and no TDY shit was hung on Kensinger, but was really the doing of Schroer who was DCO at the time. Kensinger was working on his PhD and Schroer was calling the shots, so the rumor had it.

Speaking of Schroer....does he now go by Diane? rofl Sorry I will not bring it up again, but that is a friggin riot.

Be safe