View Full Version : SF Trainee Kills Self
BMT (RIP)
02-08-2005, 12:33
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=local&Story=6838039
BMT
Archangel
02-08-2005, 13:21
So sad. :(
He even graduated the Q... should have DX'ed the heffer & gone on to better days.
Jack Moroney (RIP)
02-08-2005, 15:03
I'd like to know how the SOB got into the Q Course to begin with.
Jack Moroney
CPTAUSRET
02-08-2005, 15:29
I'd like to know how the SOB got into the Q Course to begin with.
Jack Moroney
Wouldn't a background check have eliminated him?
NousDefionsDoc
02-08-2005, 20:41
Well, to hell with him he's dead and like Colonel said probably shouldn't have been there anyway. But:
1. Too bad he's dead, they should have put him on a plane to Iraq and made him a one man ambush. You know he'll pull a trigger.
2. What the hell is a Group guy doing at his ex's house and he's in Training Group?
I hate soap opera shit.
2. What the hell is a Group guy doing at his ex's house and he's in Training Group?
I hate soap opera shit.
That's the FIRST thing I thought! The Group guy will have to answer some serious questions after he recovers. :eek:
Personally...I'd fry his ass!
Jack Moroney (RIP)
02-09-2005, 06:27
Wouldn't a background check have eliminated him?
I would have thought so and I would have also thought that the shrink should have picked up something during SFAS. However, I think that when the incident in NJ happened he might have been considered a junvenile and his records might have been sealed-don't know that for sure though.
Jack Moroney
Down here your sealed records are opened for a S/TS clearance. I noticed this new edition on the forms the other day (got them for a job I missed out on). Does the same thing not happen there?
Once you get somebody like that on a team he's a team sergeant's worst nightmare. I hated dealing with Womack and the family advocacy folks.
While it was the guys fault some of the time I found that most of the time the shemale was an expert at pulling strings and pushing hot buttons to flip out a guy.
Man, I could talk for days about the three cases I got intangled with. Even when the guy is a good team member and it's her fault you say "Fix it or find a new home."
The one guy loved his wife and just would not give up on the dream they would get back together. She was a pure-T Bitch and loved to set him up. She would call him up and say she wanted to talk and for him to come to her place. When the door bell range she'd open the door dressed in a nighty and a guy, who was not clued in, would be sitting on the sofa. Of course an altercation would take place, the cops would be called and he would be taken downtown, "AGAIN". A few rounds of that and I'm telling the guy, "Man, you're stupid, stop doing that."
He moved on to a staff job to try and work it out but ended up getting out with bad paper anyway.
Oh, well.
Pete
Kyobanim
02-09-2005, 07:40
Women, can't live with them, can't kill them
:D
Women, can't live with them, can't kill them
:D
Yes you can, you just have to be crafty. Bury the bitch in the nextdoor neighbours back yard and not your own.
Weazle23
02-09-2005, 09:30
Yes you can, you just have to be crafty. Bury the bitch in the nextdoor neighbours back yard and not your own.
A good friend with a little land is all you need.
GreenSalsa
02-09-2005, 14:15
I can't count the number of times we students would sit around and wonder if the 18D course apparatus was ever used… :eek:
Radar Rider
02-09-2005, 14:35
I recall following the news of the incident in New Jersey. Whatever the guy's involvement, if he was there, he should never have even been in the military.
While it's all tragic, I think it's better that he did not get to a team.
I believe there were several instances of a trooper coming home early and unexpectedly from Vietnam only to find their wife in bed with Jody. Those who shot the wife instead of Jody tended to get off with light sentences.
I believe it was in this time frame when the saying: "Spend a dime and save a marriage." was coined. :D
Here we go again . . .
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/09/soldier.killed.ap/index.html
FAYETTEVILLE, North Carolina (AP) -- A Fort Bragg soldier and a 16-year-old girl were found dead Tuesday in his home, the second shooting in a week involving soldiers at the base.
Authorities said Pfc. George Daniel Katsigiannis, 21, and Jenna Bolgna, both natives of New York City, could have died as early as Friday. The girl had been staying with Katsigiannis.
Maj. Sam Pennica of the Cumberland County Sheriff's Office said investigators are looking at suspects but have no motive for the killings.
The bodies were discovered when Katsigiannis, a support member of the 3rd Special Forces Group, did not show up at work for two days, and some members of his unit went to his home to check on him, said sheriff's office spokeswoman Debbie Tanna.
No weapons were found in the home, she said.
On Thursday, a Special Forces trainee at Fort Bragg shot his estranged wife and her boyfriend at her home, then killed himself. Both of the others survived.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/africa/02/09/somalia.bbc.ap/index.html
so glad we went there to help them get back on their feet...
Roguish Lawyer
02-09-2005, 17:41
She was a pure-T Bitch and loved to set him up. She would call him up and say she wanted to talk and for him to come to her place. When the door bell range she'd open the door dressed in a nighty and a guy, who was not clued in, would be sitting on the sofa. Of course an altercation would take place, the cops would be called and he would be taken downtown, "AGAIN".
Damn! :eek:
STR8SHTR
02-09-2005, 18:39
It's amazing what some women will do to a man when they find out they can manipulate them in a way to get them in trouble at work . Women do it to our troopers all the time.
ghuinness
02-09-2005, 21:29
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/africa/02/09/somalia.bbc.ap/index.html
so glad we went there to help them get back on their feet...
Excuse the hijack....
Getting worse (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=574&ncid=574&e=7&u=/nm/20050209/wl_nm/somalia_dc_2). A friend is currently in-country on contract. Hopefully it will last until the
next available flight !
ssgglover
02-27-2005, 22:28
new the guy from jersey personally, went through the entire course with him, never let homelife effect his job.
always was doing the right thing. unfortuanate circumstances...R.I.P....
new the guy from jersey personally, went through the entire course with him, never let homelife effect his job.
always was doing the right thing. unfortuanate circumstances...R.I.P....
When people get in wierd situations or at least respond in a way that is detrimental....
Basenshukai
02-28-2005, 20:14
I'm surprisingly close to these events. I personally know the guy doing the AR 15-6 investigation and we talked at length about it. Bottom line is that no one had their hands clean in this situation. Everyone involved was involved in something stupid.
I tell you that the Group guy involved was no "dirt bag" in the sense that he was an outstanding performer while on a team (I know him personally). You have, in fact all seen him but don't know it. He's in a recently published book and in a 50th SF Anniversary commemorative poster. Did he screw up? You can bet your reserve chutte he did. All folks involved were "legally" separated from their significant other as I understand it.
After absorbing seven .40 calliber rounds, I'd say that the Group guy certainly paid for his transgressions. Apparently, the Lord required something more of him on Earth as he is still with us.
Petelink
03-18-2005, 11:30
I can't count the number of times we students would sit around and wonder if the 18D course apparatus ever saw an ex-wife… :eek:
During training one of the instructors was talking about his ex, apparently she told her folks the exact location of the apparatus and reminded him of it constantly.
The Reaper
03-18-2005, 11:39
During training one of the instructors was talking about his ex, apparently she told her folks the exact location of the apparatus and reminded him of it constantly.
Sounds like he was in violation of his non-disclosure agreement.
You remember that, don't you?
TR
Petelink
03-19-2005, 04:31
Roger that. Back to the books.