Election 2020

[Badger52]

It appears at least part of the problem is road blocks are being or have been erected from both sides of the aisle.IMO, there's always a way. They are too busy being civil; they've been lulled into being civil for years.

[Pericles]

My thoughts are they will just open another box of Biden ballots from the store room where they have been since September.

I voted absentee (OCONUS) many times in my life. My ballots were always sent long before any deadline or due by date.

The mail in ballots were or should have been counted long before or during the day that the day of voting at the polls was going on. They knew this, this is the law. They counted day of votes and then made up the difference after the facts. Can it be proven probably not but they knew what they were doing.

Agree

[bblhead672]

It appears at least part of the problem is road blocks are being or have been erected from both sides of the aisle.

Well, the Democrat Party is the party that hates Trump more than the establishment Republicans....but not by much.

[bubba]

Copied from a friend. Original source is not known.

TEN DAYS OF DARKNESS HERE
10 days of darkness. KEY concept we’ve read about on the cue Military intel boards for years. There have been many times where many, including myself, have thought we were in it. But all of us were wrong. Trump won the election. And then overnight, he had it stolen from him. We've had to watch the trolls dance on Trump's metaphorical grave & celebrate the fall of America and the rise of socialism.4 days later, plenty of proof of cheating, & the media announce Biden as President Elect...projected, of course. I get messages every day from hurt Trump supporters who think what's the use? We can't stop them. We are fair. And in the end, we still lost. And where again is Bill Barr? Why hasn't he gotten involved yet? Valid questions.

So What if I told you Trump wanted to lose? Yep. What if I told you that losing by way of FRAUD from the other side was the plan? It's about EXPOSURE + OPTICS.
Trump HAD to win in a landslide, and he did. So that the amount of cheating required for the Dems to win was so vast that it was impossible to hide it. Had Trump edged more closely like he did in 2016, there would have been no legal battle over it. The lower courts would have thrown them out, like they are right now (except for PA). The Supreme Court wouldn't have heard it since it was both left leaning + there wasn't an emergency situation that involved national security. But losing with a conservative lean in the courts, with mounds of evidence, was the play. Evidence that is impossible to deny. Now by the constitution, if the race is close, then Congress can decide the winner. This is why they cheated just enough to edge out a win for Biden so that if Trump challenged and couldn't get a supreme court case, they could just decide in favor of Biden.

Stay with me...I know this is a long one. I'm going to clean it up for you in a bit. The Dems think they have the optics on this one by declaring Biden the
winner.

But here's the thing...this race isn't even over. Here's why...

Patriot Joe M had his tweeter account suspended over this comment:
"Patriots, be warned. President Trump has legally 'claimed' the states he knows he won fairly. The counting going on is now just a formality because the intent is to settle in court, not at the counting stations. If he loses this count, it means nothing, because this election will be Amy Coney Barrett's to decide. I promise ad guarantee you, Biden will never be sworn in as President."

Twitter took him down hours later. Not the post, the entire account.

But What is he talking about? He used the key words "legally claimed" when referring to Trumps victory. In other words Trump will lose the election OPTICALLY, but the court will say he WON fairly. I know that sounds crazy to you but let me tell you why this is true. Biden won the count. Cheating or not he won the count. That's a fact. But the states that kept accepting & counting ballots after the day of the election are IN VIOLATION OF THEIR OWN STATE LAWS.

What? What am I talking about?

PENNSYLVANIA...they have laws on the books that state that they CANNOT accept any new ballots that arrive AFTER the day of the election.
Anything coming in afterward is invalid. Well, you're thinking, "well the SUPREME COURT overrode that law in a court ruling and gave them 3 more days to collect."
And you would be right. But according to how OUR government is set up, the courts can't CREATE law, they can only ENFORCE the law that is already on the books. In order for the state to follow the direction of the Supreme court of their state, they need to actually go back and rewrite the laws to REFLECT the courts decision.
People...every day is an IQ test because these bright souls didn't do that. They NEVER rewrote the laws to make the SUPREME COURT ruling legally binding. Well, what OTHER states were this careless and lazy with the legal process?
30 states!

Over 30 states did the same thing and are violating their own laws by counting new votes after ELECTION DAY. In other words, all these trucks coming in at 2 and 3 in the morning on the morning of November 4th + beyond are INVALID. (On top of being COMPLETELY FRAUDULENT)

Biden WON the count, but only because they kept counting invalid votes for days after the election ended. The Surpreme Court of the United States will not count those votes. And since Trump was in the lead when the election ended, he is the legitimate legal president.

This is why I kept telling you all that ACB was the Trump card.

The NUCLEAR card would be martial law and mass arrests...but that's a very dangerous call for the country. To win, legally in the court system, was the Trump card, people.

And while in the court they can unload all the evidence to show mass cheating. In Michigan, they discovered a glitch in the vote tally system. After votes were cast in one county, over 6000 votes for Trump "glitched" over into Biden votes. Glitched. Well, this software was used in 47 other counties in Michigan...and used all over the COUNTRY. If they all averged the same number of vote glitches, that's well into the MILLIONS of votes that were altered after cast. Here is the interesting part. The ballot machines...were ALL connected to the internet. Yes, they are supposed to be to linked to inTRAnet...meaning internal computer networks of that one facility But they're not supposed to be linked to the world wide web. Sydney Powell, General Flynn's attorney, said that they discovered an algorithm that calculated how many votes Biden needed to win.

She said they found out the machines were transferring just enough votes from Trump to Biden so that he could win. That's why they were doing "recounts" and we kept seeing Trumps numbers go down and Biden's go up in various states. Now here is the "you can't make this stuff up" part. The software that the machines are using to tally up the votes is owned and controlled by Paul Pelosi.

Yes...Nancy Pelosi's husband. He not only sits ON the board of the software company that tallies the votes, he majority OWNER of it.
Avid election software is shareholder owned by Diane Feinstein’s husband Richard Blumenthal of Blumenthal Capital Partners LP.
Kid you not!

So these "glitches" that only "glitch" for one candidate isn't a glitch, it's a computer program designed to defraud all of this without any of us knowing it. It does it so fast that we can't even detect it during the actual counting.

This is how they were able to call states 10 minutes after the elections closed. (Florida 9pm)

The algorithms calculated a Biden win based on information they entered into the system.

Patriots...if ATTNY Sydney Powell has this information, you KNOW the DOJ does. And they probably have more that will come out in the Supreme Court hearings.
The DOJ. Where are they? They have the goods. They don't need the courts to tell them to arrest, just the command from POTUS. Why are they so quiet?
10 days of darkness.

It wasn't what we thought, people. It wasn't 10 days of media blackout, 10 days of social media blackout...10 days of darkness to a period of time where cue went dark, the President lost the election, and it looks like were headed to a socialist government.

The DOJ...by CONSTITUONAL law they can't get involved with the election until.....10 days after election day. 10 days. The election was on November 3rd, by law they have to wait until the 14th to get involved.

It doesn't mean they can't make arrests. They can arrest some small time players that were involved with the plot. I'm told from a reliable source last night that a few of these arrests will happen next week sometime. But after 10 days, Barr can arrest anyone all the way from the intern in the Biden break room up to Biden himself.
Cue said the first big arrest will shock you. I can't see a more shocking ARREST than the "President-Elect" of the United States getting arrested for HIGH TREASON & ELECTION BALLOT FRAUD!!!

We will see.....

[Box]

Well, the Democrat Party is the party that hates Trump more than the establishment Republicans....but not by much.

I'm not sure I agree with that.

The democratic party simply disregards President Trump - the democratic party HATES Trump supporters and their collective power more than they will ever hate a single man that can be marginalized by the machine. It is the soul of American exceptionalism that the democrats hate. After all, the democrats didn't instigate violent fiery riots at the governors mansions or the steps of the capitol building or the White House - they instigated those riots in YOUR neighborhoods. They fucked up YOUR neighborhoods and YOUR businesses with cries of "myth" and "peaceful protest" and "systemic racism" - the democrats didnt "lock down" the families of the governing class - they locked down YOUR families.
Recognize the nuance folks - democrats don't hate Donald Trump - THEY.HATE.YOU.


In contrast the republican establishment hates Trump for upsetting their apple cart...
...give us the House and We'll repeal Obama Care and advance a republican agenda
...give us the Senate so we can work with the House and we'll repeal Obama Care and advance a republican agenda
...give us the White House so we can work with the Senate and the House and we'll repeal Obama Care and advance a republican agenda

Wait - not Trump - we meant give us an ESTABLISHMENT republican...
...fuck you America - we aren't going to support "your" republican president - we're going to throw a never-Trump tantrum and teach you all a lesson you'll never forget

The establishment republicans hate Trump for outing their incompetence and their complicity with the Marxists that populate the political left - the establishment republicans completely disregard their republican voters as though they were whispers in the wind.
...if establishment republicans were worth the smallest of runny stools, Trump would have never even ran for president.

Just my two cents - I could be wrong.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Bubba,

I have heard similar things so I hope these experts are ready and just waiting for all the swamp rats to expose themselves.

I disagree that Biden should be rolled up like Roger Stone, Dr. Jill, maybe but Jill Biden’s husband, no. He probably has no idea what happened or how it happened.

The great “catch of the day” will be ex-pres Obama getting SWATED by HRT at 05:00 from his new million dollar home in the Hamptons with a Newsmax crew rolling film.

The only reason right now that I can think of or even believe Chris Wray has a job still is because he is in on this and has been since coming into possession of Hunter’s laptop.

Gena Haspell, ??? Is she just a scapegoat or bait to draw Brennan, Clapper and other top Obama administration hacks into the open. Maybe someone can roll McCrystal and McRaven up for violating some NDS or something.


I’ve always said for the last four years, Trump plays Chess on a multi-level board and is always one or more steps ahead. I hope that this is the case again but hope is not tactic and praying doesn’t always work out.

I’d love to watch the Pelosi’s get perp walked to a waiting police car. That would be one of the best outcomes by far. Maybe she can take a knee.

[Badger52]

IMO, all the mouthpieces are already way behind the game. They are busy filing paper, shuffling paper, creating paper affidavits, and creating more paper with interviews of whistleblowers. (The latest is someone who was apparently at the "birth" of the Smartmatic machine & Dominion s/w used to work electoral miracles for Chavez and Maduro. Anyway...)

Cutting down trees gets nothing. If they can't get an order most rikki-tik to go snag some US Marshals and go to Philly, Allegheny, Wayne, Macomb, and Milwaukee counties and physically SEIZE some shit, the perpetrators are going to sit back, light a big frickin' cigar, look the American people right in the eye, laughing their asses off, and say: "Prove it."

These people don't do civil paperwork - they're cleaning their frickin' back trail RFN.

[Paslode]

IMO, all the mouthpieces are already way behind the game. They are busy filing paper, shuffling paper, creating paper affidavits, and creating more paper with interviews of whistleblowers. (The latest is someone who was apparently at the "birth" of the Smartmatic machine & Dominion s/w used to work electoral miracles for Chavez and Maduro. Anyway...)

Cutting down trees gets nothing. If they can't get an order most rikki-tik to go snag some US Marshals and go to Philly, Allegheny, Wayne, Macomb, and Milwaukee counties and physically SEIZE some shit, the perpetrators are going to sit back, light a big frickin' cigar, look the American people right in the eye, laughing their asses off, and say: "Prove it."

These people don't do civil paperwork - they're cleaning their frickin' back trail RFN.

But on the legal end of things filing paper, shuffling paper, creating affidavits and performing depositions is how the process is supposed to function. But it only works as long as everyone honors playing by the same rules. Once one party decides the rules are not for them its chaos.

I would like to see some folks get Uncle Budded with an early morning no knock raid, door kicked in, a couple dogs shot, house ran sacked and agents thumbing through shoe boxes full compromising 'Party' photos.

Keep your fingers crossed Badger, it could happen.

[GratefulCitizen]

Clock is running out for court orders/intervention by state legislatures to delay certification to allow for investigation of fraud and recounts in pertinent states.
Legal challenges would be much more difficult after certification.

https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results_certification_dates,_2020

[Paslode]

A trip in the way back machine...we've been here before

https://professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37647&highlight=Bev+Harris

[1stindoor]

Copied from a friend. Original source is not known.

TEN DAYS OF DARKNESS HERE ...


Yeah....I don't know. That's almost too much tin foil to wrap my head around. Like Grateful Citizen said...clock's ticking.

[bblhead672]

I'm not sure I agree with that.

The democratic party simply disregards President Trump - the democratic party HATES Trump supporters and their collective power more than they will ever hate a single man that can be marginalized by the machine. It is the soul of American exceptionalism that the democrats hate. After all, the democrats didn't instigate violent fiery riots at the governors mansions or the steps of the capitol building or the White House - they instigated those riots in YOUR neighborhoods. They fucked up YOUR neighborhoods and YOUR businesses with cries of "myth" and "peaceful protest" and "systemic racism" - the democrats didnt "lock down" the families of the governing class - they locked down YOUR families.
Recognize the nuance folks - democrats don't hate Donald Trump - THEY.HATE.YOU.


In contrast the republican establishment hates Trump for upsetting their apple cart...
...give us the House and We'll repeal Obama Care and advance a republican agenda
...give us the Senate so we can work with the House and we'll repeal Obama Care and advance a republican agenda
...give us the White House so we can work with the Senate and the House and we'll repeal Obama Care and advance a republican agenda

Wait - not Trump - we meant give us an ESTABLISHMENT republican...
...fuck you America - we aren't going to support "your" republican president - we're going to throw a never-Trump tantrum and teach you all a lesson you'll never forget

The establishment republicans hate Trump for outing their incompetence and their complicity with the Marxists that populate the political left - the establishment republicans completely disregard their republican voters as though they were whispers in the wind.
...if establishment republicans were worth the smallest of runny stools, Trump would have never even ran for president.

Just my two cents - I could be wrong.

Well said and correct. I keep forgetting that the socialists hate the deplorable, clinging chumps more than Trump.

[Badger52]

With Trump and the establishment GOP having backed his primary opponent the last time, Don Bolduc has now turned around and again filed papers to run for Senate from NH (https://www.wmur.com/article/gen-donald-bolduc-wastes-no-time-announcing-2022-us-senate-candidacy-to-take-on-hassan/34620825), for the other Senate seat.

"Giving up is not in my blood. We didn't lose to @CorkyForSenate .. We lost to the establishment."

All kinds of nuggets coming out of this dumpster fire.

[Old Dog New Trick]

I don’t care really what other people think. This right thar is funny as sh!t!

“There had been no widespread voter fraud or irregularities with the 2020 election. It has been the most secure election in history!”




“YOU’RE FIRED!”


https://apple.news/AVE20wPlBQqGThtntVlhsiQ

[Badger52]

I don’t care really what other people think. This right thar is funny as sh!t!

“There had been no widespread voter fraud or irregularities with the 2020 election. It has been the most secure election in history!”


“YOU’RE FIRED!”


https://apple.news/AVE20wPlBQqGThtntVlhsiQLMAO, because literally 5 min. ago listening to Sidney Powell comment to Mark Steyn that "whoever said that oughta be fired - they just oughta be FIRED!"

And, oh, the pearl clutching version of the story from the prep-school girls at CNN.
:lifter

[Badger52]

From the same Sidney Powell interview mentioned above...
After outlining many of the paths they have and have already filed regarding the election and the scope of the Dominion fraud, she made a big point to caution the county election officials about certifying their election because it could very well bite them in the "indictment for party to fraud" portion of their ass. Et voila'!

Officials in Wayne County, Michigan, which contains the city of Detroit, refused to certify the results of the Nov. 3 election after local representatives on the Board of Canvassers deadlocked in a 2-2 vote, sending the votes to state authorities for canvassing.

🚨🚨BREAKING: This evening, the county board of canvassers in Wayne County, MI refused to certify the election results. If the state board follows suit, the Republican state legislator will select the electors. Huge win for @realDonaldTrump
— Jenna Ellis (@JennaEllisEsq) November 17, 2020

“Based on what I saw and went through in poll books in this canvass, I believe that we do not have complete and accurate information in those poll books,” board chairwoman Monica Palmer, a Republican, said, the Detroit News reported.

Board Vice Chairman Jonathan Kinloch, a Democrat, called the inaction “reckless and irresponsible.”

The Detroit News added:

A county board that fails to canvass within 14 days after the election must give all of its documentation to the Secretary of State’s office and Board of State Canvassers, which then has 10 days to complete the work, canvass and certify the results, according to the board’s canvassing manual.

If the state authorities cannot certify the result, the election and the selection of electors would have to be decided by the Republican-controlled state legislature.Well, as Monte Walsh would say, "My, oh my."

In addition, I learned today from my state rep's chief of staff that the R legislature here is looking at a canvass & possibly full audit of a few counties here (including Milwaukee, Portage, and Dane). In addition, he reminded me of a WI statute regarding electors, such that popular vote (of final certified election) dictates who the electors vote for. It's in statute, neither legislature nor faithless elector can run against that. And, since 6 July 2020 and SCOTUS' decision, states' laws binding electors to the popular vote are perfectly valid.

Anyway, Ms. Powell makes a great point. If you're a county elections official in a place like Philly or Allegheny or Milwaukee or Macomb counties, you should be asking yourself do I reeeeeeally want to affix my signature to this thing?

[Old Dog New Trick]

Looks like the Democrats in MI are all “in” including the governor.

https://apple.news/Ap3G4DSFUSqC9EAoM6tFMUQ

If what we believe to have been discovered on Election Day with ballot counting and the night after is a ‘smoking gun’ then I would expect the FBI to move in with arrest warrants before the end of the week and start perp walking elections officials and government peeps to waiting black SUVs.

On its face value other states and county elections officials will pause their certification process and ask themselves what does the president know and when did he know it?

Then it all begins to unravel at ‘warp speed!” Certain “actors” will likely start looking for countries without extradition rules.

JMO

[PSM]

I would expect the FBI to move in with arrest warrants before the end of the week and start perp walking elections officials and government peeps to waiting black SUVs.

Which FBI are you talking about? The one now is run by Barney Fife. Without his bullet.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Which FBI are you talking about? The one now is run by Barney Fife. Without his bullet.

Well, yes...

We’ll see if the department as a whole is corrupt or just senior management.

There is the U.S. Marshals service too. Don’t hear much from them but they are the law enforcement arm of the courts.


P.S. to first post. I think this is what the DOJ has been waiting for. The “crime” hasn’t been committed until someone signs the certification as accurate. In Wayne Co., MI that has been done. I think they are the first of all the counties to do so.

[The Reaper]

If any investigation results are going to be announced, they better be before the Electoral College meets.

Honestly, I believe that previous violence in major cities this year would pale in comparison to what would happen were Trump to be announced re-elected and Biden-Harris were out. They would burn this mother down.

At this point, the fix is in and the new regime is, IMHO, more than 90% probable to take office as scheduled regardless of what is found.

Then all of the ongoing investigations will be quietly called off.

Our last hope is to win at least one, if not two of the Georgia Senate seats.

Then we have to slow roll the Dims for the next few years and try to figure out how to keep them from cheating their way into another four years.

Just my .02, YMMV.

TR

[PSM]

Then we have to slow roll the Dims for the next few years and try to figure out how to keep them from cheating their way into another four years.

Just my .02, YMMV.

TR

They've unleashed AntiFa and BLM. They will not back down now. They need to be steamrolled. The first response should have been to go ugly early. Didn't happen. And here we are.

[Badger52]

Wayne County election officials cave-in (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/17/wayne-county-reverses-decision-certifies-disputed-election-results-as-video-goes-dark/) after being demonized as racists.

An example of an accelerated re-education camp for those two.
Now go stand on the street corner with a self-loathing sign around your neck.

The Republican canvassers caved after withering attacks from Democrat activists.

Ned Staebler, whose Twitter profile said he lives in Ann Arbor — not even in Wayne County — assailed the two Republicans on the board:

WAYNE COUNTY BOARD OF CANVASSERS – 2 Republican members voted not to certify the ballots- public comment is now open and it is intense. People calling board members racist. This is commenter Ned Staebler: pic.twitter.com/cEsDlxzVXT
— Jennifer Ann Wilson WXYZ (@JennaWils) November 17, 2020

“Just know when you try to sleep tonight, that millions of people around the world now on Twitter know the name Monica Palmer and William Hartmann,” he said, referring to the two Republican canvassers, “as two people completely racist and without an understanding of what integrity means or a shred of human decency. The law’s not on your side. History won’t be on your side, he declared.”

Victory! Public pressure matters.

The Wayne County Board of Canvassers has reversed course and unanimously agreed to certify the results (upon the condition that the Sec’y of State’s office conduct an audit of precincts across the county).
— Kristen Clarke 866-OUR-VOTE (@KristenClarkeJD) November 18, 2020

With the certification by Wayne County, the results will now move to the State Board of Canvassers, which also has two Republicans and two Democrats as members.


They've unleashed AntiFa and BLM. They will not back down now. They need to be steamrolled. The first response should have been to go ugly early. Didn't happen. And here we are.Concur. The motto of our visiting A-10 drivers. Works now too.

[1stindoor]

Honestly, I believe that previous violence in major cities this year would pale in comparison to what would happen were Trump to be announced re-elected and Biden-Harris were out. They would burn this mother down.

At this point, the fix is in and the new regime is, IMHO, more than 90% probable to take office as scheduled regardless of what is found.

Then all of the ongoing investigations will be quietly called off.

Our last hope is to win at least one, if not two of the Georgia Senate seats.


My .02 cents as well. Just had a similar discussion yesterday along those same lines. I think we'll see riots, looting, and destruction on a massive scale no matter what can be proven at this point. Hope we're both wrong on that point...still think we'll pull out the Senate win though.

[Swoop]

If any investigation results are going to be announced, they better be before the Electoral College meets.

Honestly, I believe that previous violence in major cities this year would pale in comparison to what would happen were Trump to be announced re-elected and Biden-Harris were out. They would burn this mother down.

At this point, the fix is in and the new regime is, IMHO, more than 90% probable to take office as scheduled regardless of what is found.

Then all of the ongoing investigations will be quietly called off.

Our last hope is to win at least one, if not two of the Georgia Senate seats.

Then we have to slow roll the Dims for the next few years and try to figure out how to keep them from cheating their way into another four years.

Just my .02, YMMV.

TR

Concur as well. At this point I am hopeful that the republicans can keep the senate and then take back the house at mid-terms (you can always have hope).....Additionally, we need to find the right candidate for 24 and start working on that ticket now. JMOO

[Florida Patriot]

Honestly, I believe that previous violence in major cities this year would pale in comparison to what would happen were Trump to be announced re-elected and Biden-Harris were out. They would burn this mother down.

I accept their terms.

[Old Dog New Trick]

My reply to TR’s post:

I think they are going to burn it down anyway, it’s just a matter of time.

I also think it’s a necessary evil for the post reconstruction process to affirm the Constitutional Republic’s survival.

They may seem like many but they are few. The silent majority is silent no more. As Yamamoto once said, “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with terrible resolve.”

What I saw in Washington D.C. this last weekend and across America from Beverly Hills to downtown “China Town” Houston TX., and beyond gives me hope that whomever is actually sworn in on January 20, 2021, will have a tremendous amount of work to do to reunite the United States of America.

From first Bush to Obama, they broke it on purpose and I don’t believe they or any of their henchmen has the intent to fix it if they don’t get their way.

The “swamp” and the “deep state” has been exposed. Americans are tired of all the lies and cover ups.
JMHO

[Sohei]

The MSM a.k.a. the Propaganda Arm of the government has served their masters well. They have already pronounced Biden the winner and have continued their endless diminishing of the "voter fraud" stories as well as planted and watered the seeds that Trump is the corrupt one who is pushing the *false* "Biden is corrupt" narrative.

The republicrats need to get off the pot and throw some people in jail or this game is over and we are further down the toilet as a nation than I hoped we would be.

[GratefulCitizen]

If Trump ultimately fails to achieve reelection, there are a few things he could do on the way out the door.

-He could declassify many things with the express purpose of exposing corruption within the government.
-Among the many pardons likely to be issued, he could pardon all FFL holders who "lost" paperwork.

[Box]

The “swamp” and the “deep state” has been exposed. Americans are tired of all the lies and cover ups.
JMHO

True - but many of those same Americans will be easily pacified by their next COVID-19 "relief checks" - uninterrupted Netflix streaming content - and home delivery Amazon Prime consumer goods. The swamp and deep state have ALWAYS been exposed for those that choose to see it. It's been "in your face" since Ted Kennedy sent poor ole Mary Jo Kopechne to her watery grave - but nobody seemed to notice, nobody seemed to care.

The only difference is, we have been subjected to four years of the little kid screaming that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes. We all knew he wasn't wearing any clothes, we've ALL been joking about it for years and years - we just don't talk about it in public.
Well, don't worry America, that deep state that you have looked at with a blind eye for the last three generations has just about finished with their campaign to silence that annoying little kid and then, it will be back to business as usual.
Free bread and Circuses as long as you keep you keep your Netflix and Amazon Prime accounts active...
...nobody will notice, nobody will care

The American voting public watched Bill Clinton say he smoked but didn't inhale - and nobody seemed to notice, nobody seemed to care. The American voting public went nuts over the "Contract With America" but when that same republican contract resulted in a 13% increase in the budgets of 95 different programs (https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/mind-gop-pussycats) that "they" promised to eliminate if 'we the people' put them in charge...
...nobody seemed to notice, nobody seemed to care

The contract said they would handle term limits - and them 41 republicans decided they were NOT going to support term limits.
...not at all surprising is the fact that there are LOTS of folks from 1994 that are STILL betraying the public trust.

PUT US IN CHARGE AND WE'LL FIX EVERYTHING - sort of like the republicans did in 2014 and then again in 2016 and then again in 2020 - ll the while continuing their pattern of reckless collusion with the democrats...
...and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care

They did such a shitty job of being republicans waaay back in 1994 that Bill Clinton later chided their efforts as the Contract ON America (http://www.asne.org/kiosk/archive/convention/2000/clinton.htm)and it is the same party that is aimlessly stumbling around the alabaster halls of corruption now - promising to do one thing while flagrantly waving their actions in our faces as they do another
...say it with me: nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care

Bush ran on smaller government and then we all sat by and watched the government swell like a fat kid full of cupcakes smothered in buttercream icing and chocolate sprinkles.
...but nobody seemed to notice - nobody seems to care

Then a bunch of "establishment" types ran for resident - and made a big deal about "promising" to support the eventual nominee - and then most of that same bunch went back on their word
again
and betrayed the public trust by flagrantly working against the will of the people
again
...come on now, you all know the words, nobody seems to notice, blah blah something something

None of this is about the partisan dysfunction of our elected officials. Its about the cultural dysfunction of the American people and that Sword of Damocles that keeps us voting for the lesser of two evils because that is the best our country has to offer. Trash in, Trash out, same as it ever was.


Just my opinion, I could be wrong
...chat among yourselves, I'm going to go out and put some more of my Amercian-History-Digest bumper stickers on the rear decklids of hybrid cars and crossover SUVs

[rsdengler]

None of this is about the partisan dysfunction of our elected officials. Its about the cultural dysfunction of the American people and that Sword of Damocles that keeps us voting for the lesser of two evils because that is the best our country has to offer. Trash in, Trash out, same as it ever was.


Just my opinion, I could be wrong
...chat among yourselves, I'm going to go out and put some more of my Amercian-History-Digest bumper stickers on the rear decklids of hybrid cars and crossover SUVs

Correcto Mundo.....We have dipped so low into the dirt as a society that we are now a dysfunctional group of tribes fighting each other and the establishment. Not sure how we pick which group we want to partake in at this point. Lesser of 2 evils is the norm when picking Politician's, only because we don't have any decent, respectable leaders to choose from any longer that will keep the promises that they preach. The entire trash heap needs to be smoldering in the landfill, because that shit ain't working any longer.

I'll help with bumper stickers, give me the old Birkenstock hippy wearing Priuses owners cars with the Coexist stickers on them. Those are my damn nemesis vehicles who I get stuck behind on the on the way to work; they must know what freakin day I drive into the office damnit.....:D

[Old Dog New Trick]

We really do get the government we deserve not the government we (didn’t) want.


Hearing that Nancy P is keeping her job only means that J. Edgar Hoover isn’t the only person who has/d “dirt” on everyone.

[Sohei]

...Hearing that Nancy P is keeping her job only means that J. Edgar Hoover isn’t the only person who has/d “dirt” on everyone.

I do love the fact that they don't even have loyalty amongst themselves. I do get enjoyment from watching them attack each other and practice the fine art of extortion on themselves.

[Badger52]

...chat among yourselves, I'm going to go out and put some more of my Amercian-History-Digest bumper stickers on the rear decklids of hybrid cars and crossover SUVsNice. "Can't stop the signal."
:cool:

[The Reaper]

I do love the fact that they don't even have loyalty amongst themselves. I do get enjoyment from watching them attack each other and practice the fine art of extortion on themselves.

I hate to say it, but you can expect the same if the Republicans hold the Senate.

It was hard enough holding the herd together with 53 Repub Senators, imagine what it will be like when Mitt Romney or Susan Collins will be like if we need their deciding vote to pass or kill a bill.

Mitch has his work cut out for him.

TR

[Badger52]

Apparently the 2 canvassers in Detroit have pulled back their coerced certification (https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/18/republican-canvassers-rescind-their-votes-to-certify-wayne-county-michigan-results/), as it had been conditional on the state promising an audit. That's not to happen, so they have now gone back to their original position, citing the anomalies with the vote board. Some other anecdotal sources had also mentioned feedback threatening their families & that's where they drew the line in a kind of "F me? F YOU!" moment.
Palmer and Hartmann have each submitted affidavits. Palmer, the board’s chair, said in her affidavit that “more than 70% of Detroit’s 134 Absent Voter Counting Boards (AVCB) did not balance.” She then voted not to certify the results.

One other thing I caught this morning was Sharyl Attkisson's posting (https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/11/read-affidavit-from-democrat-observer-questioning-georgia-ballots/) of some of the affidavits in the bogus conduct of the GA recount. Some pretty telling words in there (from a Democrat observer), and some other links that may be of interest.

"Wheeeee, doggies. Jethro, go back in yonder, and bring that fancy lever-rifle-gun and we'll commence to havin' us a straight-up recount. Now, Miss Hathaway, you may commence to countin'. Yep, 'one, two...' and like that."
:munchin

[1stindoor]

"Wheeeee, doggies. Jethro, go back in yonder, and bring that fancy lever-rifle-gun and we'll commence to havin' us a straight-up recount. Now, Miss Hathaway, you may commence to countin'. Yep, 'one, two...' and like that."
:munchin

More like one for you and one for me...two for you and one, two, for me...three for you and one, two, three, for me....etc. etc. etc. Nothing to see here folks, move along. We'll tell you who won in a minute.

[Badger52]

More like one for you and one for me...two for you and one, two, for me...three for you and one, two, three, for me....etc. etc. etc. Nothing to see here folks, move along. We'll tell you who won in a minute.Heh, no shit. Ol' FDR's Uncle Joe told us, "it's who counts the votes."

I see a comment RE Michigan this morning also that mentioned that if their legislature cannot resolve the ballot questions, then the (R) legislature selects the electors. We don't have that here; the election MUST be resolved in some way as, by statute, the legislature cannot pick the electors. Many states that way, just realized MI is not.

[1stindoor]

Heh, no shit. Ol' FDR's Uncle Joe told us, "it's who counts the votes."

I see a comment RE Michigan this morning also that mentioned that if their legislature cannot resolve the ballot questions, then the (R) legislature selects the electors. We don't have that here; the election MUST be resolved in some way as, by statute, the legislature cannot pick the electors. Many states that way, just realized MI is not.

That's definitely a recipe for increased violence.

[Sohei]

...Mitch has his work cut out for him.

TR

Yes sir...indeed he does! It will be an uphill battle from day one.

[rsdengler]

I just need to know when I need to run and hideout in an undisclosed location in yonder hills.....:munchin

[Badger52]

That's definitely a recipe for increased violence.Did some further checking after POTUS asked the MI GOP leaders to the WH. Apologies, as well as a headslap administered here. I got the wrong impression from the election canvassers' comments previously, but it appears that MI law also does not have a mechanism for the legislature to be picking electors. You win the popular vote in a certified election you get the marbles. Their election isn't yet certified, so the legislature can look into all it wants to up till that time. So the important thing is what gets certified - an accurate count or the current piece of camel dung.

I still think your assessment is solid. Anything other than Trump being gone will equate to increased violent behavior by the current usual suspects.

[Old Dog New Trick]

The more I see, the more I read, the more light that is shown on this travesty the more I believe that Trump won in a landslide on Election Day and everything that’s happened since is a total and complete fraud.

Those that perpetuated this will and need to be held accountable.

[Paslode]

The more I see, the more I read, the more light that is shown on this travesty the more I believe that Trump won in a landslide on Election Day and everything that’s happened since is a total and complete fraud.

Those that perpetuated this will and need to be held accountable.

It took big money, both parties participating and a plandemic to pull it off. The magnitude of the fraud is mind boggling.

How many months has Pfizer known about the vaccine? According to local news this morning our area has been "stock piling" the vaccine for distribution.

We in a heap of trouble...

[Badger52]

From one of the papers that are tied to the same publisher (https://lacrossetribune.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/partial-recount-to-get-underway-in-dane-milwaukee-counties-as-court-battle-looms/article_f5e7135a-0e3c-58c6-9b0e-6f81d231d4ec.html#tracking-source=home-the-latest) that does both Pravda and Izvestia down in Madison. Disregard the editorial bent but the story is solid.
Wisconsin's partial presidential election recount in Dane and Milwaukee counties is set to commence Friday, and the process has already gone on to demonstrate the deep political divides glaringly apparent in the state and nation.

And while the Trump campaign's allegations of election "irregularities" may have a hard time passing muster in Dane and Milwaukee counties, the objections could still be headed for a court battle that could prolong Wisconsin's time in the political spotlight.

"This is going to be for the courts to decide," said Republican Wisconsin Elections Commission member Dean Knudson during a highly contentious, nearly six-hour meeting Wednesday night. "I don’t believe it’s for us to decide."

County elections officials in Dane and Milwaukee spent Thursday preparing for the recount effort, while expressing deep skepticism about the Trump campaign's allegations. Those claims, potentially affecting thousands of ballots, include that absentee ballots obtained in person without a separate written request, those from voters who declared themselves “indefinitely confined” and didn't need to submit a voter ID, and those for which clerks corrected missing witness addresses should be tossed out.

The highlighted stuff was predicted by nearly everyone with 2 brain cells to cause a problem because they complete counter to state law. But the elections head had given last minute "guidance" to poll workers to go ahead and just make corrections rather than toss out a ballot.

We'll see. I need to go shopping and get ready to make up some guacamole; popcorn alone will not get it done. And a variety of tortilla chips because family may drop by.

[Box]

and of course, Mittens just cant keep himself from attacking the POTUS efforts to address what is now OBVIOUS voter fraud

[Trapper John]

So, after listening to Rudy's and Sydney's news conference on Friday I wondered how long before the never Trump Establishment and the state run propaganda machine would take to gear up into attack mode. Well, it didn't take long. The likes of "Mr. Potato Head" (Karl Rove) and Mittens were very disturbing.

I thought that a former adviser to a POTUS and a sitting US Senator would understand that availing himself of all legal remedies to challenge the results of the election is at the very heart of our constitutional process; and that public disclosure of evidence supporting claims/allegations prior to an evidenciary hearing is not only not required, but would be an error.

To make unsubstantiated allegations of the nature made would be incredibly stupid! You may not like him, but one thing POTUS is NOT is Stupid!

Time after time his MO has been to troll his enemies out into the open. He just did it again.

This is about to get very, very interesting! My money's on the Trump team! :lifter

[Paslode]

So, after listening to Rudy's and Sydney's news conference on Friday I wondered how long before the never Trump Establishment and the state run propaganda machine would take to gear up into attack mode. Well, it didn't take long. The likes of "Mr. Potato Head" (Karl Rove) and Mittens were very disturbing.

I thought that a former adviser to a POTUS and a sitting US Senator would understand that availing himself of all legal remedies to challenge the results of the election is at the very heart of our constitutional process; and that public disclosure of evidence supporting claims/allegations prior to an evidenciary hearing is not only not required, but would be an error.

To make unsubstantiated allegations of the nature made would be incredibly stupid! You may not like him, but one thing POTUS is NOT is Stupid!

Time after time his MO has been to troll his enemies out into the open. He just did it again.

This is about to get very, very interesting! My money's on the Trump team! :lifter

One would think that if Trump were truly barking up the wrong tree the media, Obama, Romney, Rove, etc would let things quietly run their course. But they aren't quiet, in fact fact they are belligerent and seem to be in hurry to get Slo Joe confirmed as President Elect.

[tom kelly]

Let us not forget, The Japanese gave us Pearl Harbor; The Saudi moslems gave us 9-11 and the Chinese gave us "THE WUHAN VIRUS" and the 1 %ers gave themselves MORE POWER...

[bblhead672]

Time for a New Declaration? (https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/time_for_a_new_declaration.html)

Here's a serious question. Have we passed that Rubicon in America beyond which it is no longer possible to pretend the American government is legitimately representing the people? I know that question is on a lot of Americans' minds these days, and I think it speaks volumes about our brewing crisis that none of our elected leaders has even attempted to acknowledge, let alone address, the growing unease outside the capital. People are arming up right now in record numbers not because of hunting season; they're buying weapons because their instincts tell them America is on the brink. But if America is on the brink, the D.C. Leviathan seems unsympathetic or unaware. That makes for an awfully dangerous situation.

Doesn't it feel as though we've been here before? An out-of-touch capital far removed from American life starts imposing its will on ordinary folk until enough Americans who desire only to be left alone finally dig in their heels, embrace their independent spirits, and refuse to be subjects of an unjust government any longer. The British Parliament gave us the Stamp Act in 1765 and the Townshend Acts in '67, and after the Boston Massacre in '70, the Tea Party in '73, and the Intolerable Acts of '74, the tinderbox finally exploded at Lexington and Concord in April of '75. Revolution began. A decade is all it took.


If "taxation without representation" was enough to boil the blood of American patriots two hundred and fifty years ago, I have my doubts that "socialism without representation" will fare much better with their descendants.

It is the height of irony that an American system of government that arose from rebellion against the unchecked demands of an insular ruling class seems intent on planting the seeds for rebellion once again. How else can one describe this moment in history when the American government and the American people are heading in different directions?


There is a presumption among Obama Democrats and Big Government Republicans that Americans who take their freedoms seriously will simply roll over and obey if they are increasingly attacked, punished, and ignored.

[Gypsy]

^^ Great article

[Box]

When in the course of human events, and all that jazz...

[Badger52]

Time for a New Declaration? (https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/time_for_a_new_declaration.html)Here's an article (https://macris.substack.com/p/trump-at-the-rubicon) that takes that "crossing the Rubicon" thought into more specifics, especially the portion regarding "Interference with State and Federal Law." The article seems to, as a precept, consider legal standing to those aggrieved by having their votes miscast or discarded in a Federal election. Times 70-odd million "plaintiffs."

(I didn't know that the act had been re-titled either; I still think of it as the Insurrection Act.)

The author added an update at the end also:
Update (1230AM 11/20/20): This afternoon, Trump’s legal team made serious allegations of election fraud in the Presidential election and indicated their intent to pursue these allegations in as many as 10 states. In response, Democrat thought leaders have declared the litigation efforts to be an attempted coup, begun a #sedition hashtag on Twitter, and written op-eds demanding felony charges against the entire legal team for treason — a legal team led by one of the nation’s most respected prosecutors and mayors in history! Taking the position that litigating before the Supreme Court is sedition is a perfect example of purposefully widening the Rubicon River until it reaches Trump’s feet.

The "unorganized" militia part makes for grumpiness. 45 is an age long in my rear view mirror, but I'm a commo guy, know how to cook lots of breakfasts, and can secure the chow point.
:munchin

[Old Dog New Trick]

The best ending would be when several tens of thousands of “woke” people get done crying in their venti, double cinnamon, half white, with paprika sprinkles on one dollop of whipped cream latte, and just say, “it’s over, we got caught, he has to leave in four years and we can find a better candidate than grandpa Joe.”

Even smart people are starting to point out the mathematical errors and extremely unlikely (as in not just unlikely but highly improbable to mostly impossible) odds that Joe Biden won any red state even with a blue city or two without massive election fraud and vote manipulation at the point of entry. That is, not only is there the likelihood of double votes and illegal ballots cast in mail in voting but more importantly in person voting was manipulated at the machine to flip Trump votes to Biden along an algorithm that was changed part way through the process when they realized Trump was not only going to win but win by a huge majority.

Until they seize the machines across all the states with this voting software analyze and audit the data and connect the dots to when, where, what time, who and how, we are just grasping at straws.

The poll workers and supervisors (who didn’t knowingly cheat) and the Secretaries of States are clueless to the fraud and believe the numbers they have been told to be accurate and above reproach. Only they are wrong.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Has anyone seen or heard from Waldo (aka AG William “Bill” Barr)?

Also missing and presumed on vacation is Dir-FBI Christopher Wray who has not had one TV appearance to explain how the nations top federal law enforcement agency is securing Dominon and EC&E electronic voting machines and servers in the (un)likely event they will be needed to understand what happened in a transparent and legal definition of “WTFJHH” and how will the courts decide “proof beyond a reasonable doubt” something somewhere by someone did something?


Maybe it is over, all but seeing Stacy Abrams sing the “_ _ _ Bless the USA!” (Insert Joe)

[Ret10Echo]

Has anyone seen or heard from Waldo (aka AG William “Bill” Barr)?

Also missing and presumed on vacation is Dir-FBI Christopher Wray who has not had one TV appearance to explain how the nations top federal law enforcement agency is securing Dominon and EC&E electronic voting machines and servers in the (un)likely event they will be needed to understand what happened in a transparent and legal definition of “WTFJHH” and how will the courts decide “proof beyond a reasonable doubt” something somewhere by someone did something?


Maybe it is over, all but seeing Stacy Abrams sing the “_ _ _ Bless the USA!” (Insert Joe)

Securing as in physical security?

The organization responsible for encouraging the CYBER security of the voting systems had it's head cut off ( You're fired)

[Old Dog New Trick]

Securing as in physical security?

The organization responsible for encouraging the CYBER security of the voting systems had it's head cut off ( You're fired)

Well, there you go again! :D


Wasn’t that guy fired for stating “this was the most secure election in our country ever!”

[Penn]

This is MOO, and I have trespassed on a few sensibilities in the pass. That said, the corrupt DNC and former Obama admin could not afford POTUS Trump to carry 2020.
Why, because that particular individual believes in NYC pay back.
Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Biden and the Clintons would all be facing massive "Close Scrutiny."
They absolutely had to quash the election of President Trump to end the coming onslaught of criminal investigation, that AG Barr would pursue and the possible indictments and interment of these corrupt un-American Bastards.

Edit to add: If they do decide to assault the 2A, it's over.

[Old Dog New Trick]

I hope they go there, in fact I pray they go there. I haven’t been sleeping well lately and as I lie in bed when it’s really quiet thinking about “what if” and “if.” I’m reminded by SGM Atzz (sic) saying a Special Forces Soldier is always thinking, always thinking! When he stops thinking it’s only because it’s now time for action. It might not be time yet, we may have to endure some more hard times before it’s time for action and until then I will keep thinking.

The SGM also said, “if you’re not cheating, you’re not trying, if you get caught, you’re not trying hard enough!” “Try harder!”

These words of wisdom have stuck with me ever since the same night I stuck a tree branch in my eye and saw the entire constellations of space trying not to run down a road in the middle of the night doing some land nav course in selection or Phase 1 (I really don’t remember now; was it the STAR exam I don’t know, sleep deprivation does matter.) He was standing on the road only a matter of feet where that tree was growing off the side of the road. After he got done educating me on the presence of the nearby road, I picked myself up and continued with the land nav course avoiding the roads (except when they were absolutely the only way around an obstacle that otherwise would have made you fail.)

Sometimes it takes a moment like that and I also think this is a moment in history where if we do not act it will be too late to keep what our forefathers gave us...a Republic if we can keep it.

[Paslode]

Has anyone seen or heard from Waldo (aka AG William “Bill” Barr)?

Also missing and presumed on vacation is Dir-FBI Christopher Wray who has not had one TV appearance to explain how the nations top federal law enforcement agency is securing Dominon and EC&E electronic voting machines and servers in the (un)likely event they will be needed to understand what happened in a transparent and legal definition of “WTFJHH” and how will the courts decide “proof beyond a reasonable doubt” something somewhere by someone did something?


Maybe it is over, all but seeing Stacy Abrams sing the “_ _ _ Bless the USA!” (Insert Joe)

Either way (Trump or Biden) it is just getting started. If Trump pulls it off, there will be chaos in the streets. If Biden wins they are going after Trump and everyone that supported him, and they will destroy whats left of the middle class.

A rumor that was running around recently was that Durham was afraid to release the report for fear of repercussion from the Biden Administration. And I read somewhere last week that Chris Wray said the FBI wasn't investigating any election fraud.

Time will tell..

[Penn]

All that has been said here, one sentiment/sensibility rings true, we recognize that there are powerful forces that will assault of liberties. At what point do we task ourselves with the responsibility to ensure our grandchildren freedom?

[Badger52]

A rumor that was running around recently was that Durham was afraid to release the report for fear of repercussion from the Biden Administration. Unless they were already part of the known embedded DNC-supporting mole network, any bureaukrat such as Durham or Barr that thinks they will be around is delusional. These people would proceed to school Trump on what he should've done Jan 2017.

In the bad peoples' eyes, they're golden. To grab from a Tweet I saw
the motherxxxxxxs sabotaged an incoming admin, staged a coup, ran a sham impeachment, politicized a bioweapon attack from communist China, rioted, looted and burned cities down, and then blatantly rigged a presidential election.

And they got away with all of it.

[Paslode]

Unless they were already part of the known embedded DNC-supporting mole network, any bureaukrat such as Durham or Barr that thinks they will be around is delusional. These people would proceed to school Trump on what he should've done Jan 2017.

In the bad peoples' eyes, they're golden. To grab from a Tweet I saw

I don't believe they have any ideas of being around, my take was fear of retribution by the incoming cabal was the reason Durham/Barr exited stage left.. For example Andrew Weissmann is already gearing up to prosecute Trump for crimes after he leaves office and Barr is being accused of covering for Trumps crimes.

So in essence Durham is rumored to be willing to trade his Security for our liberties.....like many, many others in scurry around the sewer known as Washington, DC. It's like the chickenshits in Michigan who certified the results after they were allegedly threatened. There's a fear of being Arkancided.

As for Penn's question:

All that has been said here, one sentiment/sensibility rings true, we recognize that there are powerful forces that will assault of liberties. At what point do we task ourselves with the responsibility to ensure our grandchildren freedom?

That's a really good question. Maybe this Sunday, when ANTIFA begins blocking roads in conservative areas when President Trump fails concede the election. **Hypothetically** if that were to occur, and it prevented emergency services from responding to a call I could see that as being justifiable cause to have a party so to speak. The PoPo in many cases is a buffer that prevents this from happening.

[1stindoor]

I hope they go there, in fact I pray they go there. I haven’t been sleeping well lately and as I lie in bed when it’s really quiet thinking about “what if” and “if.” I’m reminded by SGM Atzz (sic) saying a Special Forces Soldier is always thinking, always thinking!....

I think he pronounced it, "Tinkin' " Thank you for that memory. SGM Atz was at Mackall when I did Selection and Phase I. I remember at the start of the STAR exam he told us (like at 0200), "if you see the sunrise and you haven't already been to your first point...you gonna fail."

[Justice]

Has anyone seen or heard from Waldo (aka AG William “Bill” Barr)?

Also missing and presumed on vacation is Dir-FBI Christopher Wray who has not had one TV appearance to explain how the nations top federal law enforcement agency is securing Dominon and EC&E electronic voting machines and servers in the (un)likely event they will be needed to understand what happened in a transparent and legal definition of “WTFJHH” and how will the courts decide “proof beyond a reasonable doubt” something somewhere by someone did something?


Maybe it is over, all but seeing Stacy Abrams sing the “_ _ _ Bless the USA!” (Insert Joe)

I believe since it is a civil suit rather than a criminal, proof beyond a reasonable doubt is not required. It’s more along the lines of “more likely that it occurred vs not occurred”.

[Badger52]

That's a really good question. Maybe this Sunday, when ANTIFA begins blocking roads in conservative areas when President Trump fails concede the election. **Hypothetically** if that were to occur, and it prevented emergency services from responding to a call I could see that as being justifiable cause to have a party so to speak. The PoPo in many cases is a buffer that prevents this from happening.Actually the tweet where that self-proclaimed Antifan leader threatened that was published on the 20th, the Sunday then meaning 22 Nov. That has come & gone. Maybe the SS paid him a visit.

Is there a new & improved ultimatum? Pretty please?

[Paslode]

Actually the tweet where that self-proclaimed Antifan leader threatened that was published on the 20th, the Sunday then meaning 22 Nov. That has come & gone. Maybe the SS paid him a visit.

Is there a new & improved ultimatum? Pretty please?

Looks like I was a day late and a dollar short on that :eek: New and improved ultimatums are surely on the way, which is surprising considering Slo Joe has a lock on the election.

Have you read Sydney Powells 104 page filing? I got to page 64 or so before I had to take a breather. It's interesting. The biggest complaint the leftist trolls have with the filing is spelling errors. The item that caught my eye was the alleged incestuous relationship between Dominion, SmartMatic and several others...it sounds like a massive shell game that includes Diebold. And if you recall back in 2006 Bev Harris at BlackBoxVoting.org called out Diebold for exactly what is said to have gone on in the 2020 election. As I recall years back there was also word that Soro's bought/invested a voting machine company which tallied votes overseas and which the results were deleted and left no audit trail.

This election season puts a new perspective on why Soros is buying up Secretaries of State.

Georgia has been down this path before back in 2003..

The Case of the Diebold FTP Site

http://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/voting/dieboldftp.html

[Badger52]

Have you read Sydney Powells 104 page filing?Not yet, I've got both and, although not doing family meal till Sunday, was busy celebrating cranberry relish and enjoying my skim of the 2020 SOF Med Handbook that had just arrived late Wednesday (them guys in the brown trucks again).

The campaign & Powell's decision to publicly declare that they are & have been separate entities seems a smart one. Powell is free to be her own unguided missile and not constrained by filing with judges like that moronic little sycophant Sullivan.

Housekeeping, lawsuit direct links:
MICHIGAN (https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.0_1.pdf)
GEORGIA (https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf)

Happy naptime. Powell is going to maybe ruin the weekends of some Dem attorneys.
:cool:

[Paslode]

Not yet, I've got both and, although not doing family meal till Sunday, was busy celebrating cranberry relish and enjoying my skim of the 2020 SOF Med Handbook that had just arrived late Wednesday (them guys in the brown trucks again).

The campaign & Powell's decision to publicly declare that they are & have been separate entities seems a smart one. Powell is free to be her own unguided missile and not constrained by filing with judges like that moronic little sycophant Sullivan.

Housekeeping, lawsuit direct links:
MICHIGAN (https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.0_1.pdf)
GEORGIA (https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf)

Happy naptime. Powell is going to maybe ruin the weekends of some Dem attorneys.
:cool:

It's interesting. There are some flow chart exhibits that a Taiwanese newspaper tweeted that are for no better phrase mind boggling. Two familiar names mentioned as being tied to Dominion are David Patraeus (United Media) and Indivisible (formerly known as ACORN).

Whether this is fact or fiction maybe time will tell. But what is fact is the US media has a complete blackout on anything contrary to their President Elect Slo Joe narrative. The only venues covering the alleged voter fraud are fringe news outlets. So by design news sources are being limited and any news coverage of election fraud ventures into the world of conspiracy theories and AJ regardless of the validity.

Aside from alternative media and a few journalists like Sheryl Atkinson, John Solomon and Sara Carter, investigative journalism is dead. The media these days resembles Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert with a heavy dose of Jim Jones and Joseph Goebbels.

It's pretty telling where all this is heading when the media would rather dismiss Sidney Powell as "Crazy" than investigate her claims and try to prove her wrong.


However if we look back about 10 years....in regards to ACORN maybe Sidney's not so crazy.

A 2008 WSJ article had this to say about Obama and ACORN...

Mr. Obama's kind of organizers work at Acorn, the militant advocacy group that is turning up in reports about voter fraud across the country.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122394051071230749


Glenn Beck 2009

https://www.********.com/watch?v=KrgUH-XhZMw


Here's a 2018 clip about Patraeus and United Media

Regarding this same subject, KKR controls a large number of internet companies, including Optiv (cyber security), GoDaddy (hosting), First Data (digital money), and, of course, United Group’s internet service providers.
The massive surveillance of the internet by Anglo-American intelligence services, revealed by Edward Snowden, was in full swing while Petraeus was heading the CIA. It included projects like PRISM, which allowed direct access to servers of Google, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, and other giants, as well as Muscular and Tempora, projects which directly infiltrated fiber optic cable systems.
In the Balkans, a large part of the internet traffic goes through providers bought by Petraeus. A Serbian study on “Invisible infrastructures” found that all the traffic led to a single point: “if you would like to examine, filter, or retain all the national traffic going through the SBB network, you would be able to do that using just this one point.” It so happens that this point is in the possession of KKR.
Why infiltrate, if you can own?

https://www.ojim.fr/david-petraeus-ex-cia-chief-new-media-mogul-in-eastern-europe-the-complete-investigation/

[Old Dog New Trick]

Absolutely nothing suspicious about this...nothing at all. Move along serfs and eat your peas.

Chairman of Smartmatic’s parent company to become president of George Soros’s ‘Open Society Foundations’

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/smartmatic-chairman-appointed-as-new-chairman-of-george-soros-open-society-foundations/

[Sohei]

One thing to come about from all of the election debacle - if people are really paying attention and critically thinking - is that many of the "deep state" people and policies are beginning to come to the surface. I hope there are more people paying attention to the events happening "behind the scenes" than were before the election.

It is still odd to see how many people still don't recognize the "Soros" name and his involvement in what is happening these days. Self-imposed ignorance is a killer.

[Paslode]

One thing to come about from all of the election debacle - if people are really paying attention and critically thinking - is that many of the "deep state" people and policies are beginning to come to the surface. I hope there are more people paying attention to the events happening "behind the scenes" than were before the election.

It is still odd to see how many people still don't recognize the "Soros" name and his involvement in what is happening these days. Self-imposed ignorance is a killer.

But Soro's is just one piece of the puzzle, there are many more besides him. Tom Steyer, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Jack Dorsey and Mikey Bloomberg comes to mind.

[Sohei]

But Soro's is just one piece of the puzzle, there are many more besides him. Tom Steyer, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Jack Dorsey and Mikey Bloomberg comes to mind.

Yes sir...indeed several of those are the younger generation of puppet masters. My apologies for not mentioning them as I was mostly speaking in reference to Soros from the previous post. I do enjoy the fact that they are being forced to come front and center now in ways that they weren't in the past. As least now, many of the "Deep State" are having to be in the limelight for a while.

[Old Dog New Trick]

I would suggest all those people and the new (old) ones from the 1960s radical left domestic terrorists groups (meet the new boss still the same as the old boss) get the very best security money can buy. Because I think the “Sleeping Giant” has been “awakened” and is gonna be really pissed and doesn’t seem to care too much about the “woke” generation and their immediate masters the very public and popular professors that teach in private/public colleges and universities.

2020 may end up being seen in perfect hindsight in the next few months but 2021 may be the year socialism takes root or is destroyed along with the festering ideology that brought it to fruition.

Pol Pot, Lenin, Mao and Khomeini come to mind for how to deal with Bolsheviks, dissidents and a supposed educated class. It’s not that I agree with their totalitarian ideology but their methods were effective.

Hang a few thousand radicals on fence spikes and as Maxi Waters said, “when you see them in a restaurant, a department store, at the gasoline station, you get out and create a crowd.” Yadda yadda dada...”You tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.” ”We’ve got to get the children connected to their parents,” (Whatever that means to her, it means to me you have threatened me, my family and my community!)

I’m not advocating violence or threatening anyone, I’m just saying that this country was founded on principles that are wholly inconsistent with socialism or communism and too many have sacrificed everything to escape it where ever it is, or fought in wars to keep it from our shores. Don’t think they are just gonna rollover and let it happen here. That’s all.

[Paslode]

Yes sir...indeed several of those are the younger generation of puppet masters. My apologies for not mentioning them as I was mostly speaking in reference to Soros from the previous post. I do enjoy the fact that they are being forced to come front and center now in ways that they weren't in the past. As least now, many of the "Deep State" are having to be in the limelight for a while.

No need to apologize, I mentioned the others because George Soros get too much attention as the ultimate boogie man imo, when there are many fish, possibly bigger fish so to speak.

It's Medusa on steroids.

[FlagDayNCO]

As is quoted in a signature block, look around your own area. The Marxists and Socialists working in the trenches are easily identified and accessible. Don’t waste time reading up on the likes of Soros, but spend that time reading up on who contributes financially to the many organizations.

Your town council, your school board, your volunteers, etc. Most people start their involvement with politics at the school board level. It’s no coincidence that the Marxists genuinely identified the school and secondary education systems as the place to instill their anti American ideology.

[Peregrino]

It's Medusa on steroids.

Perhaps the Hydra would be a better analogy. It seems every time one swamp creature is forced out, two more rise to replace it. Trump attempted the Herculean task; pity he didn't have an Iolaus adequate to the task.

[Badger52]

It would appear to my novice eyes (https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22o155.html) that SCOTUS has directly accepted Texas' lawsuit from yesterday against PA, GA, MI, and WI regarding the shenanigans that have - by result - disenfranchised TX voters. Haven't fully read the filing (https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163048/20201208132827887_TX-v-State-ExpedMot%202020-12-07%20FINAL.pdf) but cheat-sheet would be:

- SCOTUS was convinced, as TX laid out, that they are the only venue that can accomplish the review & remedies needed.
- Remedies would be immediate temporary suspension of certification of electors by states involved (today was a safe-harbor date). In addition...
- Revert selection of electors to the state legislatures, regardless of state-level faithless elector statues (this will be a sticking point in WI).

Anyway, the black robes have decided they are the athletes to do it and they want the ball. And they have to get going most rikki-tik.
Hey! SUE me! (Please)
:D

[Gypsy]

^^^

Love the State of Texas :lifter

[Sohei]

Looks like Louisiana has joined Texas. I hope more join in as well.

[Old Dog New Trick]

I saw that too and wonder why it’s taken so long. Or, why the route through lower and appellate courts have gone the way they have. It’s seems Sidney Powell may get her day at the Supremes too.

I hope Ted remembers the halls and cubbies of the SCOTUS because he might need inside help and I doubt John Robert’s will be on the right side of history in all this.

Robert’s has to ask himself this one question. [“If I side with the liberal justices to break a tie and Biden becomes president there may be a civil war unlike anything ever seen before that will tear the country apart along ideological lines.” “If I side with the conservative justices and declare the election null and void and allow the Constitutional article II and the 12 amendment to give the Legislature of each state and the congress to decide who the president is and that is more likely President Trump then former Vice-President Biden he kicks the can down the road.” “Or, the SCOTUS says you all cheated and President Trump not only won, but won by a landslide majority and we are going to take a long hard look at state selection and election of senators and representatives to see just how far down the rabbit hole this cheating went.”]

In which case there will be so much crying and temper tantrums on the left that the tears will drown out the fires they set in Democratically run cities like Portland, Seattle, Atlanta, Minneapolis, Washington DC and New York.

Then hopefully Bill Barr can get off his fat ass and tell the FBI to go out and start arresting people. The list is long and getting longer by the day.

One can hope right?

Maybe the most important decision Trump and McConnell made was to appoint ACB to the Supreme Court to save the Supreme Court from itself.

[Badger52]

Maybe the most important decision Trump and McConnell made was to appoint ACB to the Supreme Court to save the Supreme Court from itself.Justice Barrett is the life-preserver from Roberts (who is probably cussing the hell out of Alito right now). I think you're right. This might be the kind of case that a quisling like Roberts secretly dreads all their life.

Either way, there will be flailing of arms, gnashing of teeth, and clanging of steel.
My way of hedging bets (although Box is the Ph.D of the over/under, unless it's a hand-regulated Browning Superposed™) is to remain secure in the knowledge that, however it works out, my mag springs only really deteriorate through cycles, so they can sit there good to go for quite awhile.

Time for some good ol' Kulak-grade Folgers; neighbor brought over fresh banana bread...
:D
yeah, still warm.

[Old Dog New Trick]

I wonder if Roberts understands his loyalty to the Democratic Party will be his undoing of the entire US Supreme Court if Kamala takes over and GA goes blue.

The White House has been burned to the ground once before. And a lot of Washington D.C. was built on the backs of indentured servitude otherwise known as slavery. So maybe it’s time for a slave owning family woman to help with the reparations to complete destruction of D.C.?

[Badger52]

I wonder if Roberts understands his loyalty to the Democratic Party will be his undoing of the entire US Supreme Court if Kamala takes over and GA goes blue.

The White House has been burned to the ground once before. And a lot of Washington D.C. was built on the backs of indentured servitude otherwise known as slavery. So maybe it’s time for a slave owning family woman to help with the reparations to complete destruction of D.C.?It's definitely appearing as if TX won't be going it alone. Several sources now have Louisiana, Arkansas, Alabama, Florida, Kentucky, Mississippi, South Carolina, and South Dakota (go Kristi Noem). There were even some comments on social feeds that the GA AG wanted to join - join the suit against his own state but, hey, argued in SCOTUS by someone else, why not?

Hell, I'm not in Dane or Milwaukee county... maybe I can join. The other people haven't yet understood that what's dangerous is not when a person feels they "lost" but when they know they've been wronged.

[Old Dog New Trick]

The other people haven't yet understood that what's dangerous is not when a person feels they "lost" but when they know they've been wronged.

This is the base argument isn’t it?

If Biden had campaigned like no other candidate before, better than even Trump (hard to do, the energizer bunny can’t even keep up) and Obama. If Biden hadn’t been last in three presidential runs including this one and considered the least likely candidate to win an election in all three races. If Joe Biden could make a coherent sentence even when reading a teleprompter... maybe just maybe we could believe he got the most votes in the history of the nation; any nation in the whole world and beat the...

Most popular president in modern history who gained over 10-million votes against all odds (in contrast Obama lost nearly 7-million votes IIRC in his “*win*”) and against every conspiracy that has been hatched against him by the other side.

Yep, the only mistake POTUS Trump has made so far in the election was not having a victory celebration at 22:00-24:00 on November 3, 2020, and telling Joe to enjoy his basement.

I read or heard that 83% of the population believes cheating occurred and should be investigated before electing the next president or re-electing the current one. That means there are 33% of Democratic liberal Americans that believe this is wrong!

[GratefulCitizen]

Straightforward explanation from the Texas AG.

https://
youtu.be
/cu_JvESluMg

[WarriorDiplomat]

But Soro's is just one piece of the puzzle, there are many more besides him. Tom Steyer, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Jack Dorsey and Mikey Bloomberg comes to mind.

These are the products of Soros they too are puppets lured in by the open borders society affiliates

[rsdengler]

Justice Barrett is the life-preserver from Roberts (who is probably cussing the hell out of Alito right now). I think you're right. This might be the kind of case that a quisling like Roberts secretly dreads all their life.

Either way, there will be flailing of arms, gnashing of teeth, and clanging of steel.
My way of hedging bets (although Box is the Ph.D of the over/under, unless it's a hand-regulated Browning Superposed™) is to remain secure in the knowledge that, however it works out, my mag springs only really deteriorate through cycles, so they can sit there good to go for quite awhile.

Time for some good ol' Kulak-grade Folgers; neighbor brought over fresh banana bread...
:D
yeah, still warm.

It's indeed a mess and there will be a lot of boxing ring match ups with these law suits. I'm not sure on the over/under ratio because this election has been a cluster "f" and Biden's already getting his donut ring ready for the big chair while Kamala is fluffing up her kneepads....Well folks, it's certainly going to be a wild damn ride these next 4 years....giddy up and be prepared....And damnit don't drink that dirty watered down Folgers Coffee, ewwwww my Ex mother-in-law used to make me drink that crap when I was forced to visit...Lol...But Banana Bread, send some my way...:D

[EricV]

I'm trembling in my shoes. :rolleyes: How 'bout you??

https://twitter.com/i/status/1336531504869076993

[PSM]

I hadn't thought to check into this, but I just heard on Mark Levin's Show (fill-in host Doc Washburn) that the casinos haven't paid off, yet, on the Trump-Biden race. I wonder why not?

[Badger52]

I hadn't thought to check into this, but I just heard on Mark Levin's Show (fill-in host Doc Washburn) that the casinos haven't paid off, yet, on the Trump-Biden race. I wonder why not?LMAO, Pat... Nice!
:cool:

I sent an electronic note to the TX AG and told him he could treat that as my inside-the-defendant Amicus brief.

It would seem that I'm not the only one:

-Alabama
-Arkansas
-Florida
-Indiana
-Kansas
-Louisiana
-Mississippi
-Montana
-Nebraska
-North Dakota
-Oklahoma
-South Carolina
-South Dakota
-Tennessee
-Utah
-West Virginia
have apparently jointed Texas' lawsuit (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/09/17-states-support-texas-supreme-court-lawsuit-alleging-pa-mi-ga-wi-elections-were-unconstitutional/).


OT Rita: As I mentioned in the BRCC thread, I'm just a kulak and so I don't get to do high-stakes coffee daily; it functions as a kind of dessert treat.
:)

[Paslode]

I'm trembling in my shoes. :rolleyes: How 'bout you??

https://twitter.com/i/status/1336531504869076993

Not at all. I love these folks and their raw arrogance, I mean nothing like (figuratively speaking) painting a target on yourself.

[Old Dog New Trick]

I'm trembling in my shoes. :rolleyes: How 'bout you??

https://twitter.com/i/status/1336531504869076993

I’m certainly not going to look for it again (it was way down the replies list) but the Speaker of the House (a Republican and one other representative in the State House) are seeking to have her censored if not removed entirely. She has been removed from a House committee already from this.

I agree with the many that said it’s a terroristic threat and she should be investigated by the FBI (whatever that means these days if you’re a democrat.)

[Box]

I'm trembling in my shoes. :rolleyes: How 'bout you??

https://twitter.com/i/status/1336531504869076993


Seems like reasonable terms...

So, thats THREE democratic leaders
-one that is inciting her soldiers
-one that has incited supporters to run political opponents out of public places
-the drinker of the house that has declared an entire political party "enemies of the state"

...based on these radical comments from elected leaders that seem to be directly inciting violence, it all seems like reasonable conditions to any sane person - the democratic side of the government is openly threatening Americans that don't support their party

Be a democrat or get dealt with

[tonyz]

If there had been a Hillary WH - raise your hand if you think that the Hunter Biden, Eric Swallowell stories would have ever seen the light of day - as minimal the coverage has actually been.

Is it is coincidence they both involve China?

Look up the Clinton/China scandals back in the 1990s.

Would we have ever known about the weaponization of the FBI against political opponents in the United States, etc., etc.,?

“Be a democrat or get dealt with” indeed.

Now, known liar Susan Rice is set to lead the WH domestic policy council...

Biden is set to be Obama’s third term.

[rsdengler]

Nice, idiot elected officials threatening the good citizens of her state. Talk about going down the rabbit hole. Just to be clear, she's not the only "D" to say things like that and it shows what scumbags they really are on that side. She was stripped of her committee seats, but I doubt if any Democrats would condemn that POS. That's because the Democratic party wants the Trump supporters to pay, and they are not the only ones. I've been on Twitter and I've also read "woke vets" tweets stating the same crapola. So many posts from them about "reeducation camps" same with Journalists, writers and Hollyweird. So who are the real "Gestapo Agents", well just look to the Leftards and see who is licking the leather.....So it's come down to this, and they are pitting sides and are out for blood. I've been thinking, the Democrats are the ones who are stomping all over the Constitution and have no problem doing so, it's going to get messy. What a shit show.....:munchin

[Box]

Biden is set to be Obama’s third term.

Bureaucrats in the IRS have surely cleaned up their act by now and they will be anonymously butt fucking republicans like its a national pastime once the democrats are firmly in control of the government.

Then, once the IRS has dealt with the republicans of means, the democrat appointed AG can once again start bullying banks into prohibiting the use of their credit lines for firearms and firearms related purchases.
...not that it will matter when the democrat POTUS signs an EO that prohibits the internet purchases of firearms and firearms related merchandise




Now - quick, somebody tell me how such a thing could never happen here in America

[tonyz]

Bureaucrats in the IRS have surely cleaned up their act by now and they will be anonymously butt fucking republicans like its a national pastime once the democrats are firmly in control...

Hasn’t that become an Olympic event?

Oh, that was break dancing (I shit you not...breakdancing is the latest “sport” to join the Olympic program. It will be in the 2024 Paris Games)...

Break dancin’...butt fucking conservatives...to a democrat...it’s all Olympic sport...

Sem sem.

[EricV]

Seems like reasonable terms...

So, thats THREE democratic leaders
-one that is inciting her soldiers
-one that has incited supporters to run political opponents out of public places
-the drinker of the house that has declared an entire political party "enemies of the state"

...based on these radical comments from elected leaders that seem to be directly inciting violence, it all seems like reasonable conditions to any sane person - the democratic side of the government is openly threatening Americans that don't support their party

Be a democrat or get dealt with

And it's a win/win in their eyes. Once your dealt with, i.e., dead, you'll be voting for Democrats forever.

[tonyz]

Eat some fucking peas boys...

Time magazine names President-elect Joe Biden, Vice President-elect Kamala Harris as Person of the Year
USA Today
12/11/2020

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/12/10/joe-biden-kamala-harris-time-magazine-person-year/3890559001/

ETA: This is more confirmation (as if it were needed) that much of today’s media is nothing more than a propaganda arm of the democrat party. The collective person of the year...give me a break.

[Old Dog New Trick]

They gave the other clown in this roadside circus show a Noble Peace prize just for showing up on bended knees. Why would this be any different.

[tonyz]

They gave the other clown in this roadside circus show a Noble Peace prize just for showing up on bended knees. Why would this be any different.

Yup.

No different.

The leftists have no shame. None.

For cripes sake, one was in his bunker most of the summer of an election year (or speaking in tongues) and the other was prolly under a...never mind...

It just chaps me this fake award BS.

ETA it is such a transparent attempt to legitimize a couple of lightweights...half the country will view this as a well earned, prestigious award. Rant over.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Breaking news!

It’s over!

SCOTUS Dismissed Texas lawsuit.

Details to follow I’m sure...

[Paslode]

Breaking news!

It’s over!

SCOTUS Dismissed Texas lawsuit.

Details to follow I’m sure...


No surprise really, the knives have been out since the Hillary lost the 2016 election. Back to business as usual for the feral government.

[Box]

Most of our elected representation couldn't lead a wheel down a steep incline so it seems like now might be a good time to make sure your seat belts are fastened and your seatbacks and tray tables are in the upright and locked position.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Most of our elected representation couldn't lead a wheel down a steep incline so it seems like now might be a good time to make sure your seat belts are fastened and your seatbacks and tray tables are in the upright and locked position.

I agree there is going to be some clear air turbulence ahead. People have exercised a lot of patience up to this point but now they are going to see there are few if any legal actions left to validate the election.

Paslode, I don’t know how we ever go back to business as usual. Trump pulled the curtains back for everyone to see. Even if most of the liberal left wore their blinders the last four years and the media has tried to cover it up since day one a very large number of the world’s population has seen what’s behind the velvet curtains.

[Paslode]

I agree there is going to be some clear air turbulence ahead. People have exercised a lot of patience up to this point but now they are going to see there are few if any legal actions left to validate the election.

Paslode, I don’t know how we ever go back to business as usual. Trump pulled the curtains back for everyone to see. Even if most of the liberal left wore their blinders the last four years and the media has tried to cover it up since day one a very large number of the world’s population has seen what’s behind the velvet curtains.

In my neck of the woods the Kansas/Missouri border war comes to mind. When the scales of Justice no longer function equally the ghosts of William Quantrill, Wild Bill Anderson and Arch Clement will ride again.....

[Stobey]

Breaking news!

It’s over!

SCOTUS Dismissed Texas lawsuit.

Details to follow I’m sure...


It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings - and she hasn't even cleared her throat yet.

[bubba]

Looks like Allen West may be saying the Quiet part out loud......

https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-texas-gop-perhaps-law-abiding-states-should-form-union-that-will-abide-by-constitution?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro&fbclid=IwAR2n0rfbohjv1Y2jVevsIDoQW-AKcyg0tllkIWilARF8nC6rO1e0sQ1b2hI

Time will tell, but this is likely at this point.....

I’m off to confirm my Night Shift on my Sniper rifles and confirm Zero on my PEQ’s..... Then weapons maintenance.....

Ancient Chinese curse: “May you live in interesting times”

[Badger52]

By example the defendant states... it's up to them to clean up their house. I respect West's position but, imo, establishing state boundaries as he implies sounds great on a visceral level but leaves behind 10's of millions who are not represented by a couple of metroplex cesspools.

Still, if it goes that way, as the Great Peregrino once said:
"Damn! I have a lot of ammo." :D
Never rule out that such a conglomeration would be a motivator for some in the Communist-voting Dominions (pun 100% intended). Grab their slush funds & run maybe.

West is correct though. The Black Robed Druids have now said that a state (and its citizens) when wronged by another state has no Civil judicial remedy. They have declared themselves to be of zero value. Proceed from that point.

[Paslode]

What I would like to know is how no one has standing. Too me that is puzzling and seems like a copout, an easy way to avoid what should be done. And this is yet another example of Trump pulling back the curtains on the corruption and ineptitude that permeates the all three branches of government.

ODNT,

At least for the interim Cocaine Mitch, Nancy and chumps like Mike Lee are already back to business as usual selling off the wealth of the US and spending money they don't have. Bill Barr can go back to sitting on his nuts, John Durham can come out of hiding, Hunter Biden can breath a sigh of relief as can Eric Swallwell.

Times Person of the Year should have probably been Bill Barr for his lack of prosecutions, or Anthony Fauci, or the Democrat Governors who were the Tip of the Spear in tanking the economy.

However 'WE' won't get back to business as usual. It is going to be real interesting how it plays out for the 'Trumpsters' when people like the Pontius Pilot of New York are anointed to their governmental fiefdoms. Biden isn't President yet and the BATFE is already raiding businesses and confiscating records.

At this moment I am of the mind that the best thing that could happen is Texas and 18 or so other States say FUCK YOU and Secede from the Union.

[Paslode]

What are the qualifications to be Wisconsin Elections Commissioner? I am picking on Wisconsin because he is in the new, but it could be any person in charge of elections in any state.

I am just curious if these type bureaucrats have some experience or are merely bodies filling positions and collecting paychecks. Because it would seem in this day and age an Election Commissioner would need a sound knowledge in computers, software and how it all works together. Without a sound knowledge it would seem you could be snowballed pretty easily.

[Old Dog New Trick]

What are the qualifications to be Wisconsin Elections Commissioner? I am picking on Wisconsin because he is in the new, but it could be any person in charge of elections in any state.

I am just curious if these type bureaucrats have some experience or are merely bodies filling positions and collecting paychecks. Because it would seem in this day and age an Election Commissioner would need a sound knowledge in computers, software and how it all works together. Without a sound knowledge it would seem you could be snowballed pretty easily.

The job comes with a lot of kickbacks, behind door deals, bribery, and obviously complete and total obedience to those who gave you the job.

[tom kelly]

Like everything in local, city, state or federal government...IT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU KNOW.... RHIP.

[Badger52]

What are the qualifications to be Wisconsin Elections Commissioner? I am picking on Wisconsin because he is in the new, but it could be any person in charge of elections in any state.

I am just curious if these type bureaucrats have some experience or are merely bodies filling positions and collecting paychecks. Because it would seem in this day and age an Election Commissioner would need a sound knowledge in computers, software and how it all works together. Without a sound knowledge it would seem you could be snowballed pretty easily.In WI if one thinks that Ann Jacobs did that Vice-Chair thing and now rose to be the Chair of the WEC out of goodness of her heart & a desire to perform a civic service, because her lucrative personal injury law practice didn't pay any bills, they have another think coming.

What ODNT said. Everything in that arena gets done on a caste system that would make the Indians that laid stones for my Dad's runway blush.
"You want 'x'? Bak-sheesh, Sahib."
:rolleyes:

[Last hard class]

Breaking news!

It’s over!

SCOTUS Dismissed Texas lawsuit.



The right decision IMO. A victory for state’s rights.
CA & NY suing Texas for gun laws would have been next.



LHC

[Paslode]

The right decision IMO. A victory for state’s rights.
CA & NY suing Texas for gun laws would have been next.



LHC

That’s a very good point!

[GratefulCitizen]

The state legislatures had and still have the authority to act unilaterally.
It isn't the place of SCOTUS to compel action or inaction.

If, by chance, legislatures in the swing states decide to yet act unilaterally, and suits follow, SCOTUS can just punt again.
Bottom line: the state legislatures need to assert their authority if they wish to retain it.

[Gypsy]

This is rich. Unbelievable. :rolleyes:

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/bill-pascrell-house-lawmaker-traitors-texas-lawsuit-023004107.html

[Mary Papenfuss·Trends Reporter, HuffPost
Fri, December 11, 2020, 8:30 PM CST

Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.) has called on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to bar 126 GOP representatives from the House, arguing that their support for the failed, baseless Texas lawsuit seeking to hijack the presidential election violated the Constitution.

[Paslode]

The job comes with a lot of kickbacks, behind door deals, bribery, and obviously complete and total obedience to those who gave you the job.

In WI if one thinks that Ann Jacobs did that Vice-Chair thing and now rose to be the Chair of the WEC out of goodness of her heart & a desire to perform a civic service, because her lucrative personal injury law practice didn't pay any bills, they have another think coming.

What ODNT said. Everything in that arena gets done on a caste system that would make the Indians that laid stones for my Dad's runway blush.
"You want 'x'? Bak-sheesh, Sahib."
:rolleyes:

Kind of what I thought :eek:

[cbtengr]

This is rich. Unbelievable. :rolleyes:

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/bill-pascrell-house-lawmaker-traitors-texas-lawsuit-023004107.html

[Mary Papenfuss·Trends Reporter, HuffPost
Fri, December 11, 2020, 8:30 PM CST

Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.) has called on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to bar 126 GOP representatives from the House, arguing that their support for the failed, baseless Texas lawsuit seeking to hijack the presidential election violated the Constitution.

Nothing that comes from the other side of the aisle can be considered unbelievable anymore. None of their BS is ever turned against them. We are headed for some very dark days.

[Gypsy]

Nothing that comes from the other side of the aisle can be considered unbelievable anymore. None of their BS is ever turned against them. We are headed for some very dark days.


:mad:

[Old Dog New Trick]

Nothing that comes from the other side of the aisle can be considered unbelievable anymore. None of their BS is ever turned against them. We are headed for some very dark days.

[Passionate Rant On/]
Naw, I truly believe there is a light at the end of the tunnel, a very bright one in fact, maybe made by SureFire, maybe attached to the side of the tunnel, and coming through the tunnel is speeding bullet, err, I mean train, yeah a train, not necessarily a Trump train that kinda has derailed, but a bullet train is coming. It’s speeding along on a trajectory that cannot be stopped at this point. It cannot be stopped by the pandering politicians who say one thing and do another, it cannot be stopped or deterred by a declining police force, it will not be stopped by judicial indecision and/or incompetence of either the justice department or the officials charged with protecting government officials at state and federal levels. It will not be stopped by a complete and total lockdown from a made up pandemic of a severe viral cold bug that affects less than 1.7% of the world’s population. And it will not be stopped by an order, a mandate if you will, to wear paper and cloth masks in your own home and for sure in an open parking lot between grocery shopping and buying new tires to standing in lines at the airport or Lowe’s it’s all the same. Cramming yourself into an airplane seat six abreast and thirty rows deep for five hours is “not” dangerous because the government says so but sending your kids to school and making them stay six feet away from each other will surly cause a major outbreak overwhelming a medical system that sent half their workforce home because there wasn’t enough work to justify the costs, but now they complain: Not even full capacity ICU’s will stop what’s coming - it’s just they will have learn a new level of triage.

You see, the light is coming because a light has been shown on the corruption and influence (or is that affluence) of elected or appointed officials at all levels of the government near and far, state and federal. All politics are local until some other locality impacts your election and through vote manipulation, cheating and breaking the law. That’s what happens in a banana republic not a Democratic Constitutional Republic where every citizen of legal age regardless of sex, color, religion, creed, ethnicity and legal capacity to cast a vote should have that vote counted and only that vote. No more, no less, and without undue influence by mass media be it television, radio or social media pushed to your attention like a siren and manipulated and censored to deprive or provide false narrative.

Some may be calling that light All Mighty God right about now, because for some people they have been clinging to their Bible more recently than in years past when they really weren’t paying very much attention at all, and only had their Bible, guns and Walmart - because everything else was shut down and gone to China. But they are paying attention now and they aren’t the least bit happy about it. They have relatives with names and attitudes like little Timmy McVeigh and after 20-years of perma war in the Middle East they may actually be Janet Napolitano’s wet dream come true: American veteran, distinguished war hero, patriot, father, brother, son to someone - domestic terrorist to Napolitano and Johnson.

Think about it? Who has been showing up at all these peaceful demonstrations (no not the “Peaceful Protesters”) but the ones waving Trump flags and strapping arms to their hips and slinging AR-15’s over their shoulders and wearing mollie vest from Desert Storm to Afghanistan/Iraq and elsewhere. There are a lot of vets right now with all kinds of mental health issues and this is their calling. It’s sad in a way but predictable none the less.

We will hear another “Shot Heard Round the World” and I believe sooner than later. Whether anyone of us here on this forum thinks it right or wrong is, at this point, immaterial. There will be bloodshed and it really is nobody’s fault but those who have been stoking this fire for many years longer than just the last four. The parties in power for most of the last 57 years have been exposed for the greedy, corrupt and hypocrisy that they are and their lies and disingenuous attempts to destroy what made this the greatest country in the world is not likely to survive the next four years and probably not the next year without a violent confrontation with a rebellion to restore law and order and a return to the Constitution or a new one.

It’s time to pick sides. Freedom and a constitutional government of the people, by the people we elect and for the people in the USA or, socialism devolving into one party rule and a global society where people in Europe make many of the decisions about everything: what you eat, drive, live in and what you do for work. AOC has ideas and she thinks it’ll just be grand to sit down with an ignorant 17-y/o (Thunberg) and dole out how many carbon credits you get or how much of your wages will be held from your paycheck.

The BATFE is already busy at work and they just can’t wait to flex their muscles again since burning down the Koresh Family compound and setting up an old man (Weaver) who’d just as soon stayed out of it.

In Texas after the Battle of Gonzalez they have a motto: “Come and Take It”

In the Battle of Thermopylae the Greek Spartan King Leonidas had another word “Molon Labe” meaning: come and take [them]

There are quite a few, no there are many who would rather die fighting for freedom than to lie down with dogs and wait to be told what they should think and who they should believe and follow.

I’m one of them who will fight again for what I have spent my life defending. To me the US Constitution is not just parchment and ink with old punctilious words and the US Flag isn’t just a piece of cloth sewn together with three contrasting colors. If it needs more red stripes; here am I, send me, so the white ones can represent my son, my family for as long as possible...I’ll fight for the blue so that all can be free. Free of oppression and free to choose who will lead them and why they follow with free will. I’m not ready to see this experiment fail: A Constitutional Republic if you can keep it. We’re trying Ben we really haven’t given up yet! Maybe just kicking it into second gear.
[Got carried away Rant Off/]

[Old Dog New Trick]

[This is sort of a continuation. It was in the middle of a tangent thought but became too big. It can stand by itself.]

The Democrats in the houses of government at the state and federal level promoted and encouraged violence and protests in every large city in America for months and months and months as a catalyst to sow fear and intimidation amongst the people. To challenge law and order and to destroy our history our culture and our Republic, only to hurt the man in the White House. It wouldn’t matter who the man had been but it was the Orange Man that beat their sure bet, their continuation puppet of the dynasty they believed they had purchased with our money. Part of me doesn’t believe the 2007/2008 crash and recession was necessary or even real. At least only as real as the pandemic spreading across the world but under control and non existent at the source (China). Under the Obama administration these groups (BLM/Antifa and others under ever changing names ACORN, ACTBLUE, etc...) were created and allowed unfettered access to public and private institutions and schools to recruit and promote an agenda contrary to what America is and isn’t, and should never be. At the same time foreign policy allowed hundreds of thousands of refugees and unqualified immigrants to be resettled in rural to metropolitan areas simply to influence gerrymandering and voter suppression. If this not an act of treason it surly should be illegal to produce a quid pro quo for future elections.


One day, some day...I pray for all the Black, African-Americans, People of Color, Negro, whatever the latest definition of description is (I’m getting old) is that they see how they have been used and abused since 1965 by the Democratic Party and the 350 some odd years before that by the Democratic National Party and the Antebellum south. Republicans didn’t bring you Jim Crow Laws in the post reconstruction phase that was Southern Democrats. Republicans didn’t bring you the Ku Klux Klan either, that again is compliments of post civil war Southern Democrats. In later years the stupidity of white supremacy has garnered both Democrats and Republicans if they can actually call themselves either but it’s not where the KKK got it beginnings. And for the record Abraham Lincoln was a Republican even if President Obama liked to compare himself to the great emancipator and author of the 13th Amendment to free the US of slavery once and for all and end the civil war. President Obama didn’t actually do much of anything for you except offer empty promises and build false and misleading statements about how lucky he was. There are many successful Black Americans that have succeeded beyond their parent’s wildest dreams for the past 200 years. I had the privilege and honor to serve side by side with many who like me had humble beginnings and started from poverty, food-stamps and welfare support of a divorced mother. But I too have grown up in a post Civil Rights Act of 1965 and have always seen that and the words of Lyndon B. Johnson to be the greatest smear perpetrated on the African and Black community and yet year after year his words ring true. “I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” (Lyndon B. Johnson) Well, it’s true isn’t it? And he had no problem sending a great number of you to die in Vietnam. On the other hand President Trump actually did improve your opportunity to succeed; in school, in jobs, in finding and starting an individual business. In keeping all of us out of new wars and continues to smartly withdraw from foreign wars. That is because Trump isn’t a Republican and he damn sure isn’t a closet Democrat like he may have believed he was before getting to know the Clintons. Another sad sack of shit sold to the African-American communities across America. Wake up! Stop calling your successful brothers and sisters names like Uncle Tom and worse things I’ve heard. They’ve seen the light, many came from nowhere and built empires, some have broken their backs to help bring up the next generation of pioneers be that to space or congress. Kimberly Klacik is a smart energetic young woman with fire in her soul to improve Baltimore. Baltimore elected Kweisi Mfume (NAACP Dude) who never brought you anything. Keep electing the same old same old and then ask yourselves why don’t things ever get better?

Wake up! Wake up before it’s too late and the only thing you have to show for it is a nonfunctional cheap cellphone and another failed school system to send your children to.

Nobody wins when we all lose.

[Badger52]

The right decision IMO. A victory for state’s rights.
CA & NY suing Texas for gun laws would have been next.

LHCDisagree sir, but (unlike the Supreme Court) willing to hear you out.

Not a recovering lawyer so have no caselaw at hand; but seem to recall that's been tried before. Regardless of item possessed, one is governed by the laws of the state in which one's feet are standing. Thus, such a complaint cannot impact the rights of someone within the supposed offending state and the laws of that state don't negate the ability of the complainant to make their own laws. Disenfranchising an entire state in an election of national scope, by fraudulent practices, is a different matter.

Just because CA had (has?) Agri Polizei at the border with AZ doesn't mean it has standing to tell Arizonans they can't buy/sell/own/possess fruit. Sensitivity to importation of that fruit is unique to CA.

[JimP]

For those saying it was the right decision (the Supreme Court case), please explain to me that if the Constitution MANDATES that ONLY the State Legislatures may change the voting rules, and if mayors/judges/governors go ahead and change those rules in their State - in opposition to the Constitutional mandate - and it increases the amount of votes cast, how that doesn't water-down and delegitimize the power/value of a vote taken in accordance with the Constitution? How are Texas votes equal to the votes of PA if PA changed the rules?

What if PA, WI, CA, et all change their rules to allow 8 year-olds to vote. Would that be OK? Apparently so according to this Court.

[Paslode]

I can see LHC's point, but I keep circling back to the issue of standing and being puzzled how Texas or any state would not have standing if another state or states broke Constitutional Law and diluted/defrauded the votes in the plaintiff state.

Based on what transpired it would appear that no one has standing and thus no means of redress within the current system of Just-us.

[JimP]

I can see LHC's point, but I keep circling back to the issue of standing and being puzzled how Texas or any state would not have standing if another state or states broke Constitutional Law and diluted/defrauded the votes in the plaintiff state.

Based on what transpired it would appear that no one has standing and thus no means of redress within the current system of Just-us.

That's my point exactly. We either have a Constitution, or we don't. Pretty simple. It looks like the Supremes tossed it back to the corrupt States to address which they won't.....because they are corrupt.

[GratefulCitizen]

Maybe the threat to pack the court cowed some of the justices.
"That's a nice little court you have there. It would be a shame if something were to happen to it..."

[Old Dog New Trick]

My understanding is that Texas either filed the wrong paperwork or at this point can’t show that they have been harmed by the election process in the four states they challenged. At least that’s what I came away with.

The Dominion voting machines are still another whole ball of cat hair that I’m very surprised the FBI didn’t investigate and maintain data for analysis under a microscope with comparison to ballots counted and for whom.

Maybe after tomorrow or when the electors are selected by the state legislatures they will be able to show harm or jeopardy by the failure of the defendant states to follow the US Constitutional election laws and the states’ own election laws and how that undermines the national election for all the people, not just the people of those states but everyone.

I also disagree with LHC because states can by law have different laws under their state constitution than other states as long as they don’t supersede or diminish the US Constitution.

It would be more appropriate for say a Texas citizen in good standing with the law to not be charged under the strict interpretation of laws enacted by states like NY, CT, CA and IL simply because they pass through those states with a 30rnd magazine with otherwise legal weapons carried per state law in those states for the purposes of legal recreational activities; competition or hunting. The same cannot be said to be true of a citizen from those states to travel to Texas or any other state to purchase said magazines or firearms and return to their states if those items are deemed illegal by the states in which they reside. The same could be true of voting in two or more states simply because you own land or houses in two or more states you can only legally claim residency in one state for voting purposes (TTBOMK) but I have a coworker who claims he can vote in Texas and Louisiana under some strange circumstances that probably goes back to the Louisiana purchase. I think he’s wrong but...IDK

[1stindoor]

"That's a nice little court you have there. It would be a shame if something were to happen to it..."

I love a good Monty Python reference!

[Penn]

Tin foil warning.
There is a possibility ML via an EO, Sometime btw now and 12/27. An extreme measure Certain to create social chaos in the near term, as gov counters the attack on our electoral system by a foreign power that subverted the outcome of 2020. imoo

[Old Dog New Trick]

Tin foil warning.
There is a possibility ML via an EO, Sometime btw now and 12/27. An extreme measure Certain to create social chaos in the near term, as gov counters the attack on our electoral system by a foreign power that subverted the outcome of 2020. imoo

Only if the M il i tary and local LE is compliant or is that complicit in the undertaking?

There would have to be mass arrests/detentions and tribunals to ferret out the subversives and begin a public forum on their involvement to overthrow the president and government.

I believe that yo-yo Democrat that just threatened to remove 126 Republicans from the House is a good place to start with the insurrection act.

[pcfixer]

Only if the M il i tary and local LE is compliant or is that complicit in the undertaking?

There would have to be mass arrests/detentions and tribunals to ferret out the subversives and begin a public forum on their involvement to overthrow the president and government.

I believe that yo-yo Democrat that just threatened to remove 126 Republicans from the House is a good place to start with the insurrection act.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/dni-says-intelligence-will-not-meet-trumps-dec-18-deadline-to-report-foreign-threats-during-election_3621908.html

Executive Order 13848
The order, signed by Trump in Sept. 12, 2018, stipulates that after an assessment is delivered on potential election interference, the attorney general, and the secretary of homeland security would have another 45 days to evaluate the report and make a determination. If election interference is found by the two departments, automatic sanctions would be imposed to restrict the property of the persons involved.

The secretary of state and the secretary of the treasury would thereafter be required to recommend whether additional sanctions are required.

If invoked EO, the repercussions are in play.

If election interference is found by the two departments, automatic sanctions would be imposed to restrict the property of the persons involved.

[Badger52]

To possibly save some flailing of arms and crushing of molars I invite folks who feel the need to actually read the text of EO 13848 (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/). Feel free to go find the previous and cited Obama EO's this one tag-teams off of.

If you have a special mixture of lemon juice that reveals the secret writing that tells of domestic martial law and the round-up of those who should be swinging from the trusses of the 14th Street Bridge, I'm all ears for the recipe AND I'll bring the rope.

BT
UNCLAS
FOREI GNINT ERFER ENCEX
BT
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[tom kelly]

There was NO ELECTION in 2020, It was an appointment by the Main Stream Media/ controlled by Big Tech, billionaires, the DC beltway Law Firms, Lobbyist, and deep state actors. The Nightly News Election coverage was a joke. the talking heads presented the narrative that Joe Biden would be the next POTUS. If Trump does not declare Martial Law & do what needs to be done to restore the Rights of the American People (citizens of the U S A) we will have a 46th POTUS who is controlled , probably blackmailed by The New World Order & subject to there demands.

[Paslode]

To possibly save some flailing of arms and crushing of molars I invite folks who feel the need to actually read the text of EO 13848 (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/). Feel free to go find the previous and cited Obama EO's this one tag-teams off of.

If you have a special mixture of lemon juice that reveals the secret writing that tells of domestic martial law and the round-up of those who should be swinging from the trusses of the 14th Street Bridge, I'm all ears for the recipe AND I'll bring the rope.

BT
UNCLAS
FOREI GNINT ERFER ENCEX
BT
NNNN

Correct, it is pretty benign and toothless. When a government as a whole puts far more time in effort in gun control than the integrity of its elections the end is near.

There was NO ELECTION in 2020, It was an appointment by the Main Stream Media/ controlled by Big Tech, billionaires, the DC beltway Law Firms, Lobbyist, and deep state actors. The Nightly News Election coverage was a joke. the talking heads presented the narrative that Joe Biden would be the next POTUS. If Trump does not declare Martial Law & do what needs to be done to restore the Rights of the American People (citizens of the U S A) we will have a 46th POTUS who is controlled , probably blackmailed by The New World Order & subject to there demands.

All those you mentioned are only interested in gaming the system. No matter what political party is in power, no matter what the ideology, they all believe they can game whatever system and come out on top.

Based ont he success of BLM and ANTIFA violence and mayhem are the most viable options to change hearts and minds in DC.

[GratefulCitizen]

The left has consistently threatened riots and violence if they don't get their way.
They have demonstrated a willingness to follow through with those threats.

Thus far, the right has been reluctant to significantly breach the peace.
If they did, they would likely be far more effective in violent endeavors.

It appears Trump may be laying down groundwork for his "trump" card, and threatens the same.
This would be consistent with his MO of counterpunching in degree and kind.

Does the shooting start on January 6th?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-wild-protest-washington-dc-jan-6
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/12/does_mike_pence_want_to_save_america.html

[Paslode]

The left has consistently threatened riots and violence if they don't get their way.
They have demonstrated a willingness to follow through with those threats.

Thus far, the right has been reluctant to significantly breach the peace.
If they did, they would likely be far more effective in violent endeavors.

It appears Trump may be laying down groundwork for his "trump" card, and threatens the same.
This would be consistent with his MO of counterpunching in degree and kind.

Does the shooting start on January 6th?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-wild-protest-washington-dc-jan-6
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/12/does_mike_pence_want_to_save_america.html

Several things clear, no branch of government is willing to look into the alleged election fraud, no one has standing to call the result of the election into question and they are more interested in saving their piece of the pie rather upset the apple cart. Considering that, the only recourse left is an uprising from the 78+ Million voters who have been disenfranchised and thrown to the curb.

Should that happen it will be interesting if these same people give Trump's Army the same courtesy's they gave the BLM and ANTIFA Hooligans, and if the US Military continues to decline intervening as they did when Trump was CiC.

[The Reaper]

On Dec 19, 1776, Thomas Paine published “American Crisis”.

“These are the times that try men’s souls; the summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.”

[Gypsy]

https://oathkeepers.org/2020/12/open-letter-to-president-trump-you-must-use-insurrection-act-to-stop-the-steal-and-defeat-the-coup/

“The time is now near at hand which must probably determine whether Americans are to be freemen or slaves; whether they are to have any property they can call their own; whether their houses and farms are to be pillaged and destroyed, and themselves consigned to a state of wretchedness from which no human efforts will deliver them. The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the courage and conduct of this army. Our cruel and unrelenting enemy leaves us only the choice of brave resistance, or the most abject submission. We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die.” – General George Washington, Address to the Continental Army Before the Battle of Long Island, August 27, 1776

I believe these words are as applicable today as they were in 1776

[bblhead672]

Rage, Rage! (http://twelveround.com/blog/rage-rage) by T.L. Davis

Forgive this post, if you can. My utter disdain for people who think that their obligation to the union is secured by their successful establishment as an American citizen by flying a flag or singing an anthem, perhaps having fought for the nation in some previous war, without the corresponding recognition that we are in dire circumstances and must be prepared to defend liberty, here, on our soil, with all that we have, perhaps even against those who hold title in government, is intense.


Despite what a lot of people believe, we are not sainted as Americans due to our place of birth, or resident status. We are Americans by genetics. Or, our genetics make us American. One might be from Albania, but once they cross that ocean and take the pledge, they are Americans. It is in their DNA, as much as ours. It is a thirst to be free of government dominance in our lives. Whether they came across an invisible border or across the whole earth, their desire to be American and to hold the same truths to be self-evident, they have become Americans as surely as any pilgrim of yesteryear. And now, like all the rest of us who were born here and have ancestors that stretch back to the first revolution, it is their duty to secure that freedom with their lives.


There has been a lot of hay made by proclaiming the Constitutionalist as an idiot, who does not understand that no words on paper will secure a moment's peace and that point of debate is accepted and understood, but we live in a time where we might exert the power of those words on paper, on our behalf, while we stride out into the realm of the "real" and exert our dominion over the politicians who seek to enslave us, who have enslaved us, by laws against the Constitution for long enough.


Critics and supporters alike must understand that all of the weapons to fight back against a tyrannical government, either county, state or federal, was written over two hundred years ago in anticipation of a time such as this. How to handle a corrupt election was covered in the 12th Amendment and requires the President of the Senate (the Vice President) to open the ballots for president and if there is a tie, produced in this case by the alternate electors, "the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote" This gives the Vice President the ability to deny the electors from states who conducted fraudulent elections, or to equally value those representing the current president.


The First Amendment recognizes the right of the people to speak freely and to redress grievances against the government. What this means, is that the people need to be free to read whatever might be published about the corruption of the government and the government cannot inhibit our ability to do so. They cannot deny that we gather and demand a redress of grievances and never has there been a more important time to do so. The president has asked the people to present themselves on the 6th of January, in Washington, D.C. as a show of force against the corrupt and illegitimate results of the presidential election.


The Second Amendment allows us to be armed as a means of overwhelming the power of the government to dissuade us from exercising all of our other rights, especially the right to demand a redress of grievances. Laws have been passed lately to deny that right, but I suggest that there never has been a time to ignore such unconstitutional laws as when one is going to demand their constitutional rights to have a free and fair election validated by the count of the actual and legal votes of the American people.


The Fourth Amendment guarantees our right to hold private conversations, without the interference of government intrusion, exactly so that we might conspire against such government that has violated so many rights of the people.


The recognition must be made that we are at war. Those who would subjugate us to a foreign power are standing in the wings of this election, prepared to deliver us to our foreign enemies. They are in league with foreign enemies by virtue of ideology, that ideology being one of globalism rather than nationalism. It is a betrayal of monumental proportions and it stares us right in the face.


While the Constitution was written to make us feel better about our ultimate rebellion against an illegitimate and antagonistic government, it is not the words on paper that give us that right. Self-determination about the condition of our lives gives us that right. What we recognize in the Constitution is that our forebears understood and recognized that someday we would have to cling to the banner for which it stands and declare ourselves free. They gave us the tools by which we might resist this usurpation of the will of the people, but it did not demand that we use it. That is for us to decide. In our freedom, we will decide to be free or enslaved and only those who show up and do their duty will decide which it is to be.


I have made clear that I follow no man, that I adhere to no hero worship, that I know that all men are fallible, weak and subject to error. In this, I seek God's guidance and within my heart, I know that no other duty is more important than to do whatever I can to secure the blessings of liberty to myself and my posterity. The purpose for this is that they might be able to worship as they choose, say what they feel and vote their conscience with honest tabulation of that intent.


Not only do our own families depend on us making the right choice to abolish this election and demand that it be conducted in fairness and transparency across the land, especially in the states where there have been so many instances of fraudulent and corrupt voting, but the whole of the world is looking upon us now, to see if we stand for freedom or will succumb, as most of them have, to the worst and most base desires of man, which is to rule over others rather than recognize their humanity. The protestors in Japan, who have a palpable fear of the United States falling under the rule of China, speak louder than I can. Those in other countries who have long suffered the totalitarian rule of either Russia or China look to us as the last possible champion of their cause.


Let us be the Americans they look to for protection and guidance along the path of self-governance. Let us be the patriots of years gone by and stand once again for freedom and liberty. Let us be the Americans who look at our elected officials with disdain and demand that our will be done. Let us be the shining light in the world that is filled with so much darkness. Let us not go quietly into that dark night, but rage, rage against the dying of the light.

[pcfixer]

https://thenewamerican.com/this-is-war-trump-must-act-to-stop-the-fraud-says-constitutional-attorney/?fbclid=IwAR30mR1ZIydL9iKEMqzY0QOQoTckcqNJikt40NG2 oe0uoDsmZzGfuKc2v6w

Joanna Martin (also known by her pen name as Publius Huldah)

[GratefulCitizen]

There is a propaganda and influence war being waged.
They're still counting heads prior to the next escalation of this cold civil war.

Trump upped the ante on giveaways to voters and exposed all the pork in his criticism of the stimulus bill.
Then he left congress holding the bag...on Christmas Eve.

The threat to override his veto is laughable.
Anyone who remembers 9th grade civics is aware of the "pocket veto".

[Badger52]

The threat to override his veto is laughable.
Anyone who remembers 9th grade civics is aware of the "pocket veto".Yeah, this is a guy who's clearly on top of that concept called "timetable."

You made me smile with the reference to Civics. In times past I'd have said "things you'd have learned in school had you been paying attention." Currently it's really "things they taught long ago, in a land far, far away."

[GratefulCitizen]

The counting of invalid ballots by various means was absolutely brazen.
The counting of the elector votes can be just as brazen.

Mike Pence may be the most powerful man in the world on January 6th.
The Constitution, through the Twelfth Amendment, grants him unusual and exclusive authority.

Thomas Jefferson wielded that authority to grant himself the Presidency.
https://macris.substack.com/p/who-counts-the-votes-of-the-presidential

[pcfixer]

The counting of invalid ballots by various means was absolutely brazen.
The counting of the elector votes can be just as brazen.

Mike Pence may be the most powerful man in the world on January 6th.
The Constitution, through the Twelfth Amendment, grants him unusual and exclusive authority.

Thomas Jefferson wielded that authority to grant himself the Presidency.
https://macris.substack.com/p/who-counts-the-votes-of-the-presidential

I'm not constitutional authority.
But I think this USC may help.

VP will be dealt a hand with contested votes from 6 or 7 states along with several members of the house and at least 1 senator.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/chapter-1

Maybe this will provide some insight too. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/15

[Paslode]

I just don't see Mike Pence being 'The Guy' overturning the election, I mean he has asked the court to reject case. He's too swampy and over turning the election might hinder his future ambitions. Like most politicians he would rather go with the flow than upset the apple cart even if that means Communism.

We've been down this road time and time again. This time Gomert, Hawley and all the others contesting the results are producing kabuki theatre in an attempt to appease their voter base whom are extremely pissed and looking for heads.....while at the same time they are bringing in donations from people to help the cause.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/dont_expect_mike_pence_to_save_us_on_january_6.htm l

[tonyz]

I just don't see Mike Pence being 'The Guy' overturning the election, I mean he has asked the court to reject case. He's too swampy and over turning the election might hinder his future ambitions. Like most politicians he would rather go with the flow than upset the apple cart even if that means Communism.

We've been down this road time and time again. This time Gomert, Hawley and all the others contesting the results are producing kabuki theatre in an attempt to appease their voter base whom are extremely pissed and looking for heads.....while at the same time they are bringing in donations from people to help the cause.


Very reasonable analysis based on history.

DC does kabuki better than most - even if unintended.

Once in power - brass balls and initiative are punished...compromise and go-along-to-get-along is the currency of the day for political types. There are exceptions...but not the norm in order to advance career. That is but one reason Trump was such a thorn in DC.

[GratefulCitizen]

I just don't see Mike Pence being 'The Guy' overturning the election, I mean he has asked the court to reject case. He's too swampy and over turning the election might hinder his future ambitions. Like most politicians he would rather go with the flow than upset the apple cart even if that means Communism.

We've been down this road time and time again. This time Gomert, Hawley and all the others contesting the results are producing kabuki theatre in an attempt to appease their voter base whom are extremely pissed and looking for heads.....while at the same time they are bringing in donations from people to help the cause.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/dont_expect_mike_pence_to_save_us_on_january_6.htm l

I tend to agree with this.

The important part is the will and attitude of the people.
That is why media and big tech are trying so hard to control the narrative.

If enough people view the process as tainted, it greatly diminishes the power of those in office.
If nothing else, this is a delaying action as part of a organized retreat.

After viewing the new Twisted Tea viral video, it occurs to me that all the protesters on January 6 should arrive with cans of Twisted Tea.
Time to revive the “Tea Party”.

[Sohei]

This will be Pence's hour to shine...if he so chooses. How he reacts and votes will be based on his possession or lack of a spine which controls one's honor. We shall see whether it is his finest hour or his worst. Will he do what's right or what's political? We shall see as all eyes will be on him.

[ChaoticVirtuoso]

Pence could certainly go down in history.

Regardless of what happens, State legislatures need to be scrutinized. They're the ones that passed these laws that allowed for the shenanigans. People should absolutely be pissed at what went down--especially with absentee balloting.

[Paslode]

We've been down this road time and time again. This time Gomert, Hawley and all the others contesting the results are producing kabuki theatre in an attempt to appease their voter base whom are extremely pissed and looking for heads.....while at the same time they are bringing in donations from people to help the cause.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/dont_expect_mike_pence_to_save_us_on_january_6.htm l

Quoting myself because...

The Gateway Pundit is reporting that Sen. Rafael Edward Cruz and others may have been speaking in tongues again which may undermine any attempts to contest the election results. If this is true it is really a black eye for Rafael because he is marketed as being a 'Constitutional Lawyer' and has argued in front of SCOTUS "9 times".

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/ted-cruz-just-pull-head-fake-challenging-fraudulent-election-results/

BACKROOM DEAL: Pence, McCarthy, Pelosi, McConnell Plan To End January 6 Challenge After 2 Hour Debate – Sources

Vice President Mike Pence, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell have reached an informal backroom deal to expedite the January 6 challenge in the Electoral College and end it with a simple majority vote after a two hour debate, multiple Capitol Hill sources have confirmed to National File.

https://nationalfile.com/backroom-deal-pence-mccarthy-pelosi-mcconnell-plan-to-end-january-6-challenge-after-2-hour-debate-sources/

It’s a Stunt: Senate Republicans Aren’t “Warriors” For Trump and They Won’t Save His Presidency

https://www.revolver.news/2021/01/stop-the-steal-january-6th/


If true it just another reason not to donate another fucking cent to the RNC...it's really a damn shame our options for redress have about run their course.

[Badger52]

Pence could certainly go down in history.

Regardless of what happens, State legislatures need to be scrutinized. They're the ones that passed these laws that allowed for the shenanigans. People should absolutely be pissed at what went down--especially with absentee balloting.Can't speak to other states but what the legislature does can sometimes be done with genuine good intent - and that darned other side of the blade comes swinging around again.

Many states, for instance, have laws - passed by the legislatures - that effectively tie the hand of the legislatures from doing anything but accepting that the electors go to the candidate winning the majority. These are usually "anti- faithless elector" measures. The real issue is how the majority got arrived at in the first place.

Attempts through history have shown a dismal record at legislating human behavior. To engage in the destruction of a republic and the nullification of the rights of half the adult population...? In certain cases harsh prison sentences and firing squads have had some influence. Jes' sayin'...
Pour encourager les autres, or, "kill the chicken, scare the monkey."
:munchin

[Gypsy]

Well the people are speaking and msm doesn't like it one bit. :D Watching footage but had to turn off the sound. Much hand wringing about how "they are an embarrassment to the country and to themselves"

But antifa and blm can burn down cities and it's ok.

F'em

[Joker]

Well the people are speaking and msm doesn't like it one bit. :D Watching footage but had to turn off the sound. Much hand wringing about how "they are an embarrassment to the country and to themselves"

But antifa and blm can burn down cities and it's ok.

F'em

Faux is the same way right now...

[bblhead672]

Well the people are speaking and msm doesn't like it one bit. :D Watching footage but had to turn off the sound. Much hand wringing about how "they are an embarrassment to the country and to themselves"

But antifa and blm can burn down cities and it's ok.

F'em

F'em!

Faux is the same way right now...

F'em all!

[tom kelly]

Has it started? career politicians should be worried ! They are the responsible parties, do they really think we the people are a nation of sheep ?

[Box]

...do they really think we the people are a nation of sheep ?

I think most of them DO

[Badger52]

Well the people are speaking and msm doesn't like it one bit. :D Watching footage but had to turn off the sound. Much hand wringing about how "they are an embarrassment to the country and to themselves"

But antifa and blm can burn down cities and it's ok.

F'emCouple folks I personally know have been there on the ground (following via Gab). Ma'am, this one's for you.

[Gypsy]

Faux is the same way right now...

Can't watch any of them anymore.

F'em!

F'em all!

Damn skippy!

Couple folks I personally know have been there on the ground (following via Gab). Ma'am, this one's for you.

Classic.

There is so much handwringing going on. What did those people expect? "An embarrassment to our country". Really? :rolleyes: Stealing an election and expecting to get away with it is what's embarrassing.

And I wouldn't put it past antifa and blm to have infiltrated and caused whatever violence is being reported. YMMV

[Badger52]

And I wouldn't put it past antifa and blm to have infiltrated and caused whatever violence is being reported. YMMVInformation I have is that those here at what is a symbolic Boston Harbor are all over owning what happens, and has happened. There are a few less resolute ones, as in every such assembly. But this is a Rubicon of sorts. If you relax enough to check out many of the images you'll note that, other than the obvious Covid-diaper, no one is takinig pains to coverup their mug. So far, just the one lady shot in the neck by a DC officer.

The general view of those in front - and frankly, only so many can fit through an old door into a rotunda - is that being polite, and civil, and peaceful has got us where we are. And after the results in GA last night ("sure, use Dominion again, what could go wrong?")...

I did like the flanking maneuver executed by a few to use window-wash scaffolding to gain access & entrance to the upstairs. You know in the House chamber they have whole pieces of furniture devoted to a drawer where you just get candy? Who'd a thunk it?

Update: It does seem from some other sources that there were some "pro" travelling Antifa scruffs doing some Portland-style things; some apprehended. Must feel funny to be out & about in something other than black with people who actually bathe.

[Badger52]

Photo that captures the day for some; nice snap from Reuters.
Gotta get to the bass club & pick bodies of water for coming year, so just leavin' this here.

[Box]

2020 just called and asked if we were missing her yet.....

[Penn]

What went down in the storming of the capital today in DC was a psyop.

The evidence is in the videos posted on Twitter, FB, and other sites. Here you will see key members of capital police allowing and encouraged the mob forward.

Inside the capital there is one police offer holding off hundreds of very excited protestors. Then in the same frame, again encouraging them up the steps inside the building, and again to the senate chamber.

This charade had nothing to do with the validation process, but everything to do with ruining Trump and any possibility of establishing/leading the republican party.

It was scripted, executed, and planned with the intent to offer Trump only two choices: Blame: Stop your followers form desecrating our Capital., and a reactionary response to circumstance. The goal, to thoroughly destroy him.

The entire Trump Presidency is a live version of Machiavelli The Prince
https://constitution.org/2-Authors/mac/prince.txt

[Badger52]

It was scripted, executed, and planned with the intent to offer Trump only two choices: Blame: Stop your followers form desecrating our Capital., and a reactionary response to circumstance. The goal, to thoroughly destroy him.
Interesting proposal.


Report back from someone who was there:
I am going to say this slowly for those who cant follow along.

THIS WAS NOT ANTIFA!!!!
I understand that you have found some anarchists in the mix who were at some of the BLM protests, but that does not mean that ANTIFA infiltrated and caused all of this.

Stop backing away from the greatest Patriot pushback in the last 60 years.
Dont give credit to them. This was MAGA ALL the WAY! AND Thats a good thing.

Stop running from it. The Dems and the Media are always going to drag you through the mud, stop cowering in fear of being called mean and being thought a thug. Folks you need to understand something.

THESE PEOPLE DONT CARE ABOUT YOU AND WHAT YOU ARE UNLESS YOU CAN CAUSE THEM PROBLEMS!!!

[Joker]

Things that make you go hmmm...

[PSM]

Report back from someone who was there:

I watched the following live feed for about an hour this afternoon, from the time they entered until they left. These were largely Trump supporters and acted more like Japanese tourists than a rioting mob. There were a few possible Antifa/BLM guys who went upstairs but the majority basically just milled around near the entrance an chanted "USA, USA, USA" and "Trump, Trump, Trump" a few times. At the end of the hour, the CAP police walked in and asked them to leave and they did.

Starts about 4:11:30 https://www.*******.com/watch?v=mNJKNpAOs5k

[Penn]

With all due respect, consider the process since day 1, Nov 4 2016. If you examine the process of confrontation, the incorporation of MSM, corporate and foreign actors participating in the willful destruction of a Presidency these past four years, there is no doubt that the organizational ability to disrupt and coerce action at a protest rally is Childs play. Their goal has never changed.

Edit to add: Once they brand Trump the destroyer of norms, all R are at risk, especially those who supported him.

Also, they are going to flip the tag label Racist for Traitor, if you supported Trump. And that route leads to threat level assessment and the slope to the 2A.

[GratefulCitizen]

Deals were made.
Look for some “cooperation and reconciliation” theater.

Establishment Republicans sink Trump.
Establishment Democrats sink their left wing.

The uniparty gets back to business.
All the lobbyists, insiders, and crony capitalists make bank.

Their message is simple:
Shut up, peasants.

<edit>

Prediction:

After he’s inaugurated, Biden will pardon the protesters who invaded the capitol to help “heal” the nation.
This will also prevent anyone from getting to the bottom of the matter.

[Penn]

GC, spot on.

[Badger52]

After he’s inaugurated, Biden will pardon the protesters who invaded the capitol to help “heal” the nation.
This will also prevent anyone from getting to the bottom of the matter.Like the name of the officer who killed Ashli Babbitt.

[Box]

I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Harris/Biden to do any healing. They've both been in the public eye long enough for me to opine that such an effort is well beyond the realm of wishful thinking.

I applaud the optimism of those that believe Joe is going to provide top cover for the establishment to rid the sacred ground inside the beltway of the far left interlopers while the "good" republicans clear out all the fascist Trump supporters and racist tea party republicans.

I tend to lean towards expectations of a GIANT leap leftward with any dissenting republicans targeted by the IRS and media.
Mitt Romeny has a great future virtue signaling and political dick sucking in front of as many cameras as he can find in the coming years.

I wonder if the morons that put him in office are willing to keep him in office when he comes up for reelection in 2024. I'm sure there are many out there that think what we need are more conservative republicans like Pierre Delecto - I'm not one of them.


but then again, I am a hopeless pessimist

[Old Dog New Trick]

Like the name of the officer who killed Ashli Babbitt.

The wrongful death lawsuits will ultimately expose the chicken shit officer who blindly fired his weapon through a sufficiently barricaded door window where no threat of entry was going to occur.

Not to mention the two USCP officers (one with a long gun) standing next to the victim outside the door was saying WTF!

I am almost always on the side of LE but in this case and the USCP Commander who ran up to the crowd and needlessly punched someone in the face need to be held accountable. One needs to be civilly sued into bankruptcy and the other fired in disgrace. Other officers were captured on videotape acting badly with poor situational awareness.

As for the agitators wearing red, white and blue and breaking into the People’s House and assaulting the officers, they all need to be held accountable for their actions. Those that peaceably entered through open doors and left when asked should only be charged with simple trespass with no fines or jail time - if even that. It is after all the “People’s House” the place enshrined in the Constitution for addressing redress in the First Amendment.





If it turns out these disruptive actors were paid agitators from Antifa or CIA or other government agents in the deep state to sow and cause this may they all be found out and hung for treason. I’ll provide the rope!

[tonyz]

Pierre Delecto‘s call sign is Fellatio Maximus for a reason.

The Great Leap Leftward goes on...

Jeb Bush...who has been out of the news of late during his “transition” might even get appointed to something if he ups his melanin level.

Plumbing, skin color and loyalty to the State mean everything to this bunch.

Kids, we are in for a treat, all sorts of fun and games...44 former heads of foreign intelligence agencies and an anonymous source “very high up” say so...

[Old Dog New Trick]

Google - Taylor Hansen video capital hill

Disturbing truth. Watch the officer with the M-4 point it back through the window and yell “active shooter” as they catch and lay Ms. Babbit to the ground.

Very sad. His comments last night on The Ingram Angle were just as hard to watch.

[sfshooter]

So, I was enlightened today. I am currently in a location that is approximately 10 hours from certain points in the US. I was getting some equipment issued and this process seemed to take eons. In this particular building the tv was on and it was tuned to CNN (no I was not in an airport believe it or not).
I don't watch that station and probably haven't since the early 2000's. Now, I know those lefty's hate us, and I have been keeping up with all the propaganda that has spewed from MSM for all these past years. But, until I seen what was being presented on that station (hell, the damn tv was only a few feet from me) I never realized how outrageous and off the wall, wacko nuts, that they are.
In case no one here realized it there was a "deadly insurrection, incited by Trump that stormed the Capitol building" and, as if that wasn't nearly enough, all of those people that were there storming the Capitol building were "domestic terrorists" and need to be charged as such.

I guess its too bad these people have burned their history books, otherwise they might be able to predict what is going to happen by going down this path they have chosen here in America.
Key point being here in America.

[Paslode]

Deals were made.
Look for some “cooperation and reconciliation” theater.

Establishment Republicans sink Trump.
Establishment Democrats sink their left wing.

The uniparty gets back to business.
All the lobbyists, insiders, and crony capitalists make bank.

Their message is simple:
Shut up, peasants.

<edit>

Prediction:

After he’s inaugurated, Biden will pardon the protesters who invaded the capitol to help “heal” the nation.
This will also prevent anyone from getting to the bottom of the matter.

I'd agree with that summation, the siege appeared orchestrated. The many glamour shots that were taken inside offices were perfect to shape a narrative. I haven't watch all the videos out there but the one I did watch showed a LEO moving a barricade and allowing protestors in. That seemed pretty odd considering that inside there is a lockdown and LEO's have their guns drawn.

I believe most were aware (including Trump) that this gathering was prime for manipulation, so I am wondering if this wasn't at least in part a game of chicken so to speak. Trump may get a black eye out of this, Mitch, Lindsey and the RNC are back to business and usual but have one hell of a voter hole to dig themselves out of.

Did yesterdays events change anyones mind on the MAGA movement, probably not many.

[Box]

Any politician that was willing to support an electoral challenge BEFORE the crazy that was not ready to support the challenge AFTER the crazy does not deserve another cent of their embezzled taxpayer salary. Those that changed course are without principles and are nothing more than moral cowards.

If they didn't support it BEFORE then they should have had the fortitude to step up and say so. Moral cowardice prior to yesterdays crazy exists in the exact same context as the moral cowardice AFTER the crazy. Apparently there are republicans that only seek justice if it is done in a way that doesn't require risk.

I hope they all get voted out of office at the earliest possible election. Should they be replaced with democrats, so be it - their failure to stand on principle is enough to show what side they are on anyway. At least with a democrat you KNOW you're going to get fucked.


For once - I would actually say that Pierre Delecto showed bigger balls than cocaine mitch and limpy graham

Pierre might be a pandering cocksucker - but his willingness to wave his dick at republicans and MEAN it is far more admirable than backing down when things got tough. Fuck you very much to those in government that turned and ran when startled by loud noises.
Fuck you very very much.

Congratulations Pierre - at least you're an overt RINO and not a chameleon.
I look forward to more of your Romneyesque conservatism in the coming years.


I have spoken

[Old Dog New Trick]

So, I was enlightened today. I am currently in a location that is approximately 10 hours from certain points in the US. I was getting some equipment issued and this process seemed to take eons. In this particular building the tv was on and it was tuned to CNN (no I was not in an airport believe it or not).
I don't watch that station and probably haven't since the early 2000's. Now, I know those lefty's hate us, and I have been keeping up with all the propaganda that has spewed from MSM for all these past years. But, until I seen what was being presented on that station (hell, the damn tv was only a few feet from me) I never realized how outrageous and off the wall, wacko nuts, that they are.
In case no one here realized it there was a "deadly insurrection, incited by Trump that stormed the Capitol building" and, as if that wasn't nearly enough, all of those people that were there storming the Capitol building were "domestic terrorists" and need to be charged as such.

I guess its too bad these people have burned their history books, otherwise they might be able to predict what is going to happen by going down this path they have chosen here in America.
Key point being here in America.

I had been watching Faux News since getting home from work and it was just as terrible, but then I had a power outage (storm) and when the power came back on I accidentally turned on CNN and within 5-min I was about to break the TV!

The hypocrisy and hatred of the left knows no bounds!

[pcfixer]

I had been watching Faux News since getting home from work and it was just as terrible, but then I had a power outage (storm) and when the power came back on I accidentally turned on CNN and within 5-min I was about to break the TV!

The hypocrisy and hatred of the left knows no bounds!

I suggest trying newsmax on TV.

[pcfixer]

A patriot who deserves recognition.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us-capitol-police-investigating-killing-of-ashli-babbitt-family-speaks-out_3647802.html

Ashli Babbitt. 14 year Air Force Veteran.

[Old Dog New Trick]

I suggest trying newsmax on TV.

I try, I have it, usually though my wife’s watching it (Faux) and I just sit down. Get most of my news from reading it elsewhere.

[Box]

The murdered protestor just wasnt part of the right protest group or she'd have survived.

1954: Four Puerto Rican nationalists enter the House chamber and fire on lawmakers from the visitors gallery. Five congressmen are injured.

1971: The left-wing Weather Underground detonates a bomb in a Senate men’s room

1983: A bomb explodes in a Senate corridor, after a warning phone call. Six members of the Resistance Conspiracy, which opposed U.S. actions in Grenada and Lebanon, later are arrested for a bombing campaign against government buildings.

1998: A gunman breaches a Capitol security checkpoint and kills two police officers

Then of course there are those times when folks are allowed to protest as the work is being done...
...but sure, this is the first time that 'crazy' has ever made its way onto capital hill - thereby making it an unconscionable act of insurrection by unarmed people conducting a bloody violent coup attempt


Believe what the media tells you - forget what you think you know - and for god sakes, dont have too much to think america - it will get you sent to room 101

[ABN_FO]

I suggest trying newsmax on TV.

OANN. Newsmax is starting to flake.

[Gypsy]

^^ This goes with your picture above Box. Fill in the x's

https://mobile.twixxx.com/CaldronPool/status/1300244705649676289

[GratefulCitizen]

Things that make you go hmmm...

Fact checkers have been “debunking” horn guy all day.
They don’t have much to say about the bearded guy...who has a hammer and sickle tattoo on his left hand.

Must be part of communist wing of Trump supporters.

<edit>

Guess that one is getting debunked, too.
Maybe it was just a bunch of wing nut wind-up toys.

If so, then prosecute them and do a little house cleaning for the Trump supporters.

[Penn]

On whether or not an invitation was extended to those who would create havoc can best be answered by the following fact. If an investigation is rolled out, antifa & BLM activist are more than likely to be involved.

Watching the videos of Capital Police opening the flood gates is simultaneously a WTFO and Screaming NOOOOOOOOOO

Three days before supporters of President Donald Trump rioted at the Capitol, the Pentagon asked the U.S Capitol Police if it needed National Guard manpower. And as the mob descended on the building Wednesday, Justice Department leaders reached out to offer up FBI agents. The police turned them down both times, according to senior defense officials and two people familiar with the matter.
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/capitol-breach-law-enforcement-failure/2021/01/08/id/1004761/

[Box]

Watching the videos of Capital Police opening the flood gates is simultaneously a WTFO and Screaming NOOOOOOOOOO

Seems perfectly normal to me...

[PSM]

Totally Real Fake News: https://www.*******.com/watch?v=xH9XWNz0GW4

[cat in the hat]

On whether or not an invitation was extended to those who would create havoc can best be answered by the following fact. If an investigation is rolled out, antifa & BLM activist are more than likely to be involved.

Watching the videos of Capital Police opening the flood gates is simultaneously a WTFO and Screaming NOOOOOOOOOO


https://www.newsmax.com/politics/capitol-breach-law-enforcement-failure/2021/01/08/id/1004761/

I'd bet folding money there were antifa/blm/false flag operatives in the crowd. (Boogaloo boys WANT a revolution right?)
Same bet says they dont get caught.

Wear MAGA gear and a mask, get the crowd to cross the line from protest to riot then stand back and laugh

Want to know who they are? Look at the crowd. Three to four rows back from the fences covered head to toe no way to ID them visually.
Watch the videos of doors and windows being opened. They are the ones who step aside and enourage others to go in.

Go ahead, get caught up in the moment but until this happened at least the MAGA crowd could say their protests were in fact peaceful.

[PSM]

I'd bet folding money there were antifa/blm/false flag operatives in the crowd. (Boogaloo boys WANT a revolution right?)
Same bet says they dont get caught.

Wear MAGA gear and a mask, get the crowd to cross the line from protest to riot then stand back and laugh

Want to know who they are? Look at the crowd. Three to four rows back from the fences covered head to toe no way to I'd them visually.
Watch the videos of doors and windows being opened. They are the ones who step aside and enourage others to go in.

Go ahead, get caught up in the moment but until this happened at least the MAGA crowd could say their protests were in fact peaceful.

There was a caller today to the Chris Plante show (WMAL DC) that said as much. She said that the barriers near the Capitol channeled them to the front of the Capitol building and as they arrived there there were dozens of people wearing helmets and backpacks already there.

Videos show the "cops" tussling with the crowd and then removing the barriers. Another video shows the doors at the Capitol building opening out and the crowd entering peacefully, even respectfully, with cops lined up along the short corridor. The window breaking was done elsewhere. This happened just as the Joint Session was getting under way and while AZ Congressman Gosar was speaking. Coincidence? Senior in it's CiC is Congress, perhaps Pelosi in this case. Did she or Schumer tell them to stand down like Hillary did with Benghazi? Oh, BTW, she (or another caller) asked how those at the Trump rally, a TSA+++ scrutinized event, would have been able to have hammers and crowbars in their backpacks at the rally and then proceed to the Capitol.

[Penn]

Wear MAGA gear and a mask, get the crowd to cross the line from protest to riot then stand back and laugh

The Antifa uniform is spec op head gear, backpack, chest/vest plate carried, goggles and/or gas mask like gear. No Trump people arrived dressed for a fight. These guys had organization and leadership.

It boggles my mind Trump overlook this outcome/possibility. It pains me to see what occurred in the building, but it could have been Portland revisited, which implies there was a controlling factor executed and adhered too.

My think along those lines is had antifa started ripping apart the capital building the Trump people would have immediately responded to stop the act, which would have denied antifa the cover they were operating under, hence the no burn order, no statue toppling, etc. Leaving only Trump, and the Trump supporters, holding the bag and blame.

[Penn]

Choosing a second post rather than an edit for the following:

WOULD IT NOT HAVE BEEN A FABULOUS SCENE IF JUST ONE REPRESENTITIVE OR SENATOR REFUSED TO EVACUATE THE BUILDING, BUT INSTEAD, STOOD IN THE DOOR AND SAID NO.

That opportunity would make a career, maybe even a future President, that fact that it did not happen, states to me, there are no leaders in the house or senate.

[PSM]

My think along those lines is had antifa started ripping apart the capital building the Trump people would have immediately responded to stop the act, which would have denied antifa the cover they were operating under, hence the no burn order, no statue toppling, etc. Leaving only Trump, and the Trump supporters, holding the bag and blame.

There is video of Trump supporter yelling "Stop!" and "No Antifa" when they were breaking an arched window. Another video at the same window shows a red hat guy grabbing the window breaker and pulling him back into the crowd. The MSM isn't showing these videos and now twatter, buttbook, and, instasham is purging them.

[Sohei]

There isn't a riot/protest that has occurred within the last four years that hasn't been infiltrated by Antifa who is, IMO, the new Black Bloc of the anarchy world. They are the "funded" source of the violence bused in to fund, control, and organize the violence. It was most assuredly infiltrated on the 6th and used for the left's purposes.

[Last hard class]

OANN. Newsmax is starting to flake.

OANN: For those days of the month when your Hannity & Carlson flow isn't thick enough.

If Fox and Friends leaves your morning coffee tasting weak, you may be driving in the far right lane. Careful, or it will be the no fly list for you.



LHC

[uplink5]

There isn't a riot/protest that has occurred within the last four years that hasn't been infiltrated by Antifa who is, IMO, the new Black Bloc of the anarchy world. They are the "funded" source of the violence bused in to fund, control, and organize the violence. It was most assuredly infiltrated on the 6th and used for the left's purposes.

Like the clan before, BLM and ANTIFA are the militant wing of the Democratic Party.

That is (I suspect) until Biden is in office. Then, they'll do what they can to destroy all political parties in the US.....

[rsdengler]

BLM/ANTIFA are indeed the Democrats group of Militant Puppies....but in the end they want one thing; to destroy the government and this Republic. They will never be satisfied until they burn it all down. They are the enemy to Freedom and to this Nation. The Dem's don't see it, the real danger is in their own backyard and they are ready to drag them down that rabbit hole.....

[Old Dog New Trick]

BLM/ANTIFA are indeed the Democrats group of Militant Puppies....but in the end they want one thing; to destroy the government and this Republic. They will never be satisfied until they burn it all down. They are the enemy to Freedom and to this Nation. The Dem's don't see it, the real danger is in their own backyard and they are ready to drag them down that rabbit hole.....

Rita, the Democrats do see it. They encourage it, they fund it. They have seen the benefit of it since they were young socialist liberals in San Francisco and Chicago to New York and New Jersey.

They don’t want to burn down the government they want complete control of the government they want complete control of the people and they don’t give a damn about the constitution, the Bill of Rights, or FREEDOM.

They can’t be in control if you have any of those guarantees.

But, if they think they can control BLM/Antifa after letting that monster out of the cage they are wrong but it’s not beyond them to repeat the 70’s and crush them once again.

[rsdengler]

Rita, the Democrats do see it. They encourage it, they fund it. They have seen the benefit of it since they were young socialist liberals in San Francisco and Chicago to New York and New Jersey.

They don’t want to burn down the government they want complete control of the government they want complete control of the people and they don’t give a damn about the constitution, the Bill of Rights, or FREEDOM.

They can’t be in control if you have any of those guarantees.

But, if they think they can control BLM/Antifa after letting that monster out of the cage they are wrong but it’s not beyond them to repeat the 70’s and crush them once again.

You are correct, I guess the best way to say it is that they turned a blind eye to what they created and applaud it. It's been in decay for quite some time and we just let it happen even though we saw what was coming. They have control of us and they know it, but of course their little minions are rubbing their hands in glee because they have them where they want them. Oh the looney's have been let out of the asylum and it's going to bite them in the ass. It's a ticking time bomb and it's going to go off.....

[Sohei]

Like the clan before, BLM and ANTIFA are the militant wing of the Democratic Party.

That is (I suspect) until Biden is in office. Then, they'll do what they can to destroy all political parties in the US.....

Yes sir. Once he is in office, the very beast they created can very well turn on their masters. It will be interesting to see....

[bblhead672]

Rita, the Democrats do see it. They encourage it, they fund it. They have seen the benefit of it since they were young socialist liberals in San Francisco and Chicago to New York and New Jersey.

They don’t want to burn down the government they want complete control of the government they want complete control of the people and they don’t give a damn about the constitution, the Bill of Rights, or FREEDOM.

They can’t be in control if you have any of those guarantees.

But, if they think they can control BLM/Antifa after letting that monster out of the cage they are wrong but it’s not beyond them to repeat the 70’s and crush them once again.

Agreed. Hopefully BLM/Antifa becomes such a pain in the ass to the Dims they focus on crushing them first instead of patriots.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Agreed. Hopefully BLM/Antifa becomes such a pain in the ass to the Dims they focus on crushing them first instead of patriots.

Patriots: haven’t you heard they are domestic terrorist, seditionist, insurrectionists and criminals.

ETA: BLM/Antifa = Good, peaceful demonstrators, allowed the freedom of expression and reparations.
Patriot/Citizen/Soldier = Bad, unlawful rioting by protesters, damaging historical and priceless statues and artifacts.

Get your lexicons right mister!

The Stars and Strips is a symbol of hatred and racism...

Get your “facts” from Axiom, USA Today, CNN or MSNBC and the AP. Google provides them at no extra charge as long as they have been approved by the oligarchs in Big Tech.

[Last hard class]

I certainly agree that the script has been flipped. From where I sit, without the signs it’s difficult to tell the difference between BLM/Antifa and MAGA/Qanon protestors. I must admit, deep down I enjoyed seeing some of the politicians cowering in fear. The same ones who promoted the unrest this summer all the while calling the destruction peaceful. That doesn’t make what happened at the capitol any less of a shit show.

These folk were patriots? There may have been a lot of patriots that showed up that day, but anyone who overran the police and gained access into the capitol building was not acting patriotic. But look at the video. They were mostly peaceful. That sure sounds like BLMM BS to me “I didn’t break the windows, I just stole the shoes.”

Wrapping yourself in a flag doesn’t make you any more of a Patriot then wearing a BLMM shirt. Or an Auschwitz camp sweatshirt or a Q-Shaman Viking outfit.

I know a lot of you will disagree, but It wasn’t Antifa that caused the violence at the capitol. Lets look at who has been arrested. Q-folk and the like through and through. Those are facts, not some conspiracy theory. Btw: Has anyone counted how many conspiracy theories have been embedded in this thread? I'll bet its a record. I will say there is something else the arrested share with Antifa A-holes. It doesn’t seem to count unless they posted their pic online. Smart.

Badger’s inside man had it right to start with. This was orchestrated by exactly who it looks like. Of course, he also thought it was a great day for the right. It wasn’t.

[Badger52]

Deleted, moved to the (increasingly related) Civil War thread.

[tom kelly]

As a VFOG I will use the phrase that described the daily shit-show in Vietnam........"It DON'T MEAN SHIT".

[Badger52]

This was orchestrated by exactly who it looks like. Of course, he also thought it was a great day for the right. It wasn’t.Heh, indeed. It's funny almost because it depends on the perspective. Have a couple of dear friends, family almost, who're retired and went out there for the rally. Very moved, very positive experience (and they know how to dress to avoid hypothermia, like deer-hunting on a ridge where the wind never stops). Then they went back to where they were staying and came home the next morning, having NOT been a part of the relatively tiny number (considering the whole crowd) that constructed their own ambush.

[Old Dog New Trick]

I certainly agree that the script has been flipped. From where I sit, without the signs it’s difficult to tell the difference between BLM/Antifa and MAGA/Qanon protestors. I must admit, deep down I enjoyed seeing some of the politicians cowering in fear. The same ones who promoted the unrest this summer all the while calling the destruction peaceful. That doesn’t make what happened at the capitol any less of a shit show.

These folk were patriots? There may have been a lot of patriots that showed up that day, but anyone who overran the police and gained access into the capitol building was not acting patriotic. But look at the video. They were mostly peaceful. That sure sounds like BLMM BS to me “I didn’t break the windows, I just stole the shoes.”

Wrapping yourself in a flag doesn’t make you any more of a Patriot then wearing a BLMM shirt. Or an Auschwitz camp sweatshirt or a Q-Shaman Viking outfit.

I know a lot of you will disagree, but It wasn’t Antifa that caused the violence at the capitol. Lets look at who has been arrested. Q-folk and the like through and through. Those are facts, not some conspiracy theory. Btw: Has anyone counted how many conspiracy theories have been embedded in this thread? I'll bet its a record. I will say there is something else the arrested share with Antifa A-holes. It doesn’t seem to count unless they posted their pic online. Smart.

Badger’s inside man had it right to start with. This was orchestrated by exactly who it looks like. Of course, he also thought it was a great day for the right. It wasn’t.

LHC, I don’t disagree with your comments and I’m not here to spread false rumors or claim there is a conspiracy to overthrow the government. In fact I don’t think it’s a conspiracy at all, it’s all out in the open...Nancy and Chuck, and the House Democrats have been saying it out loud for over four years now...they plan to disrupt the president and claim he is not a legitimate president and was not elected by the people in 2016.

I like to think I’m pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of the Left or far-left or whatever they are called these days because they are not Liberals...I was a liberal conservative most of my life, used to be called a libertarian but now that’s a bad word too. I haven’t liked the Republican Party since a Democrat led it from 1981-1988.

I still don’t like Trump, but I think what he did for our country on both the domestic front and his foreign policies have been spot on, even with mistakes made, he usually corrected them. Even COVID...not his fault, and he’s handled it better than his predecessor back one hundred years. His “cabinet” and those leaders of federal agencies have thought since the beginning that he’s is not their president and they were given orders from the plutocracy to undermine him every chance they could...they did!

I don’t care who won, I really don’t, I just wish I could believe the outcome was transparent and truthful and the person who did win looks beyond that which has fractured us as nation...

Going after everyone and everything that made this country great is not going to end well for anyone. And making up lies and propaganda to undermine the new administration will not serve anyone.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Things that make you Hmm?

[Badger52]

Things that make you Hmm?To my eye these days, politicians being a'skeered of the folks should be the natural state of a Republic.

[Joker]

To my eye these days, politicians being a'skeered of the folks should be the natural state of a Republic.

I do wish there was a easier and standardized way to recall elected federal officials. Almost every other employee in the nation can be fired before a 2 or 6 year term if they are not performing.

Another point I don't understand is, doesn't the constituents of some of those elected federal officials see how the rest of the nation sees their prize pick?

[Penn]

Opportunity
1933 Berlin, you are going to be servicing a small group that includes a fire brand, you are instantly aware of possible future outcomes, bases solely on rhetoric and its associated target interest. You have a choice: Nathan Hale, or Jimmy Carter.

[ABN_FO]

OANN: For those days of the month when your Hannity & Carlson flow isn't thick enough.

If Fox and Friends leaves your morning coffee tasting weak, you may be driving in the far right lane. Careful, or it will be the no fly list for you.



LHC

LOL I don't watch fox... Too communist for me. I'm much more inclined to listen or watch news that slants American.

[CloseDanger]

Everybody becomes a Contractor, and Everyone gets Contracted.
Everywhere.

[Badger52]

I do wish there was a easier and standardized way to recall elected federal officials. Almost every other employee in the nation can be fired before a 2 or 6 year term if they are not performing.

Another point I don't understand is, doesn't the constituents of some of those elected federal officials see how the rest of the nation sees their prize pick?Good point. I think, frankly, that some states simply get embarassed that they could be seen as buffoons, and don't acknowledge it. I think a bit of that was in play in some of the state courts that simply refused to acknowledge election fraud cases and give them even a basic hearing. "Couldn't happen here - this is by-God GEORGIA!"

As to terminating them, it's why the Big-G tried for years to make it easier to fire someone for non-performance. The documentation process that had to take place (think, recall petition), which would consume a supervisor (drafter + volunteers, and on a hurried schedule) was too arduous in many cases. (The 17th Amendment is on my list of mistakes.)

[tonyz]

Ok, which will come first...the Durham report (ha ha ha)...

...herd immunity, or

President Kamala Harris ?

[Badger52]

Ok, which will come first...the Durham report (ha ha ha)...

...herd immunity, or

President Kamala Harris ?LOL. Honestly man, I dunno. I and a bunch of other folks heard Venezuela had a month left, at best but... I think you might've got in on some of that action too. I'm gonna leave my wallet right where it is. As soon as I bet on Harris, Durham would come out with 587 pages of redactions.

Where's Box? Better tell The Prognositicator.

[tonyz]

LOL. Honestly man, I dunno. I and a bunch of other folks heard Venezuela had a month left, at best but... I think you might've got in on some of that action too. I'm gonna leave my wallet right where it is. As soon as I bet on Harris, Durham would come out with 587 pages of redactions.

Where's Box? Better tell The Prognositicator.

Lol, Venezuela quickly turned to Cuba South only much, much worse...yeah, yeah the name is still Venezuela but it ain’t the same.

I still wish we could send Sandy Cortez and the rest of the squad down to Cuba South to show them (and us) how to do Communism correctly.

[tonyz]

If Biden is hell bent on spending trillions...why not focus the expenditure of that type of money on 24/7 eradication of the China Virus here in the US (immediately) rather than the typical bureaucratic BS over sending a sporadic $2,000 check that does little to nothing substantively to end the lockdown. Pull the nation together focusing on this very positive mission that everyone could get behind.

After all, getting the nation back to work...all restaurants, hotels, airlines, cruise ships, hotels, theme parks, etc., etc., will create massive additional tax revenue (folks will be working, earning, spending, eating, traveling, etc.,)...rather than create a typical pure governmental expense with no return (paying $2,000 sporadically) and much of the country remaining in lockdown.

Open the nation up and reap the economic benefit.

Allocate resources 24/7:

1). Production
2). Distribution
3). Administration

24/7 national focus on production, distribution and administration of vaccine over the next month or so - as if we were at war. The money expended would actually be a real investment in our nation...an investment that would reap huge positive returns...of course the power of the lockdown tyrants would disappear.

Get the nation off its knees and on its feet as if this were actually a national emergency.

The nation could use this very positive mission post election - for multiple reasons right now.

But, what do I know.

[Badger52]

...of course the power of the lockdown tyrants would disappear.
A trivial matter.

[tonyz]

A trivial matter.

Yeah. They do seem to like that power don’t they ?

That should tell you all you need to know about our current crop of politicians - and their policy choices.

[Last hard class]

Like the current POTUS, I'm going to skip watching the festivities tomorrow. If I want to see a wreck I'll watch a NASCAR race.

Pretty sure counting the wrinkles on my ball sac would be more interesting.



LHC

[rsdengler]

I think I'll move to Panama.....Anyone been there lately?:munchin

[Stobey]

This is for those of us who mourn this black day in America;

[tom kelly]

He sent the DEMON CRATS on purpose, They killed his SON....

[Badger52]

I think I'll move to Panama.....Anyone been there lately?:munchinNo idea Rita, but have a friend who thinks the world of Costa Rica.

[Badger52]

This'll do for a laugh.
TW0 people have taken out papers to run against Liz Cheney.

Post- Pale Rider Carbon County resident one (https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/H2WY00158/1488956).

Post- Pale Rider Carbon County resident two (https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/H2WY01016/1489041).

I think the "Election 2020" has run its course. Maybe time to move onto a "2021-2024 Chickens Come Home to Roost" thread.

[Old Dog New Trick]

I think the "Election 2020" has run its course. Maybe time to move onto a "2021-2024 Chickens Come Home to Roost" thread.

I second that...time to move on from anything 2020 except my upcoming eye doctor appointment.

Them chickens are already coming home, hundreds in Texas losing their jobs today and thousands between here and Canada will be without a job soon.

The hangover will be felt deep in a short time. Let the party begin.

[Joker]

This'll do for a laugh.
TW0 people have taken out papers to run against Liz Cheney.

Post- Pale Rider Carbon County resident one (https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/H2WY00158/1488956).

Post- Pale Rider Carbon County resident two (https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/H2WY01016/1489041).

I think the "Election 2020" has run its course. Maybe time to move onto a "2021-2024 Chickens Come Home to Roost" thread.

I think she may need to go on a hunting trip with her dad. There are more than 36,000 signatures to recall her and her peers in the House do not support her. She will be gone soon.

[Joker]

I think I'll move to Panama.....Anyone been there lately?:munchin

Yes.
Si no habla español ni lo piense.

[Joker]

The thing I noticed about the inauguration was the vast numbers of empty seats and the fact that the troops out numbered those in a attendance. If the NG wasn't there, it would have been a ghost-town, they may have been ordered there just to provide butts for the cameras.

[PSM]

I think she may need to go on a hunting trip with her dad. There are more than 36,000 signatures to recall her and her peers in the House do not support her. She will be gone soon.

You can't recall a member of Congress, but this sends a message.

[Joker]

You can't recall a member of Congress, but this sends a message.

This recall is being done by folks in her district. They have censored her as well.

[PSM]

This recall is being done by folks in her district. They have censored her as well.

Still can't do it. They can only be expelled or voted out. Several times in the last few weeks I've posted a Cornell Law link about it but I can't find it at the moment. This will have to suffice until I can track it down:
https://www.thoughtco.com/can-members-of-congress-be-recalled-3368240

[Penn]

No one was there, What was that only the military was invited? There's a war on, fear of fellow citizens, people who disagree with your POV are the new enemy, they are domestic terrorist, white supremacist, they are the Trump supporters, you and me.

When the POTUS makes that a center piece of his inaugural speech, it's a slippy slope ahead. Get ready.

[rsdengler]

No idea Rita, but have a friend who thinks the world of Costa Rica.

I heard that as well from my mom. ;)

The upcoming months of this Administration will be telling; we could only hope that it does not bite us in the ass and we'll be saying "I told you so".....Unsettling times ahead....

[rsdengler]

Yes.
Si no habla español ni lo piense.

Lol....No I don't, just a few words. But I wouldn't go alone....I still have that little piece of the Bahamas in my head, that is my preference.....

[1stindoor]

Lol.....I still have that little piece of the Bahamas in my head, .....

They make a cream for that.

[Swoop]

There’s a cream?

[rsdengler]

They make a cream for that.

Dang....Who would've thought? Lol.....:p

[Joker]

Lol....No I don't, just a few words. But I wouldn't go alone....I still have that little piece of the Bahamas in my head, that is my preference.....

Wasn't the Bahamas spanked pretty hard in last year's hurricane season?

[Joker]

No one was there, What was that only the military was invited? There's a war on, fear of fellow citizens, people who disagree with your POV are the new enemy, they are domestic terrorist, white supremacist, they are the Trump supporters, you and me.

When the POTUS makes that a center piece of his inaugural speech, it's a slippy slope ahead. Get ready.

The military was voluntold to serve, uh, be there. Without them there would not be anyone there for the cameras.

[rsdengler]

Wasn't the Bahamas spanked pretty hard in last year's hurricane season?

Yes it was, it hit Abaco Island. I was looking at property on Eleuthera, not directy on the water, lol I cannot afford that but still in harms way I guess. Ha well you just never know when Mother Nature will do her thing:D

[GratefulCitizen]

They’ve captured the legislative and executive branches for the next two years, but at a great cost.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/01/now_weve_got_them_right_where_we_want_them.html

[tom kelly]

You can't recall a member of Congress, but this sends a message.

Taking out the TRASH....Politicians are in DENIAL, The elite rulers think we are afraid of them....

[WarriorDiplomat]

They’ve captured the legislative and executive branches for the next two years, but at a great cost.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/01/now_weve_got_them_right_where_we_want_them.html

Perhaps permanently.....I see the Democrats are advancing their censorship of opposing ideology. This is straight out of totalitarianism play books.....their can be no challengers to the states authority....several things advanced to set these things in motion the two most glaring movements....the anti God movements sets up the states ability to have to control the church....bye bye seperation of church and state. The biggest thing they had to do before all else is to censor free speech

[Badger52]

The biggest thing they had to do before all else is to censor free speechYup. Numero Uno.

[Joker]

Perhaps permanently.....I see the Democrats are advancing their censorship of opposing ideology. This is straight out of totalitarianism play books.....their can be no challengers to the states authority....several things advanced to set these things in motion the two most glaring movements....the anti God movements sets up the states ability to have to control the church....bye bye seperation of church and state. The biggest thing they had to do before all else is to censor free speech

They are working on that. AOC made reference to a press council and with the current cancel culture they will start to do away from that "antiquated" Bill of Rights.

[rsdengler]

They are working on that. AOC made reference to a press council and with the current cancel culture they will start to do away from that "antiquated" Bill of Rights.

They want to "cancel" everything this Country was founded on.....All we wanted was to be left alone and to limit Government prying into our lives.....

[Stobey]

This info (on who shot Ashli Babbitt) came out on 1/12/21. I post it here fyi.
MODS: If this is a taboo subject, please delete.

https://redpilled.ca/redpilled-media-exclusive-us-capitol-special-agent-david-bailey-who-murdered-ashli-babbitt-is-a-brazilian-immigrant-and-black-lives-matter-militant-he-repeatedly-threatened-to-kill-trump-su/