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White flags planted on Brooklyn Bridge, American flags missing as mystery deepens
The vandals apparently used aluminum pans — ‘like the ones you cook turkeys with’ — to cover the bridge’s lights and their tracks, a police source said. Cops say they want to interview five people caught on video just after 3 a.m. The motivation for the stunt is still unknown.
BY THOMAS TRACY , ROCCO PARASCANDOLA , LARRY MCSHANE NEW YORK DAILY NEWSPublished: Tuesday, July 22, 2014, 10:17 AM Updated: Tuesday, July 22, 2014, 5:43 PM
Two high-flying American flags were surreptitiously swiped from atop the Brooklyn Bridge and mysteriously replaced early Tuesday with a pair of white banners, police said.
The substitute flags were flying by sunrise from atop the 273-foot towers on the venerable bridge despite round-the-clock NYPD security on the span.
What remained unclear hours later: who was responsible, what happened to the missing American flags — and how the thieves scaled the towers without drawing any attention.
“There’s no particular nexus to terrorism or politics,” said John Miller, the NYPD’s anti-terrorism czar. “It might be some kind of art project or statement. But we are not sure what that statement is.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/american-flags-stolen-atop-brooklyn-bridge-cops-article-1.1875673
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“There’s no particular nexus to terrorism or politics,” said John Miller, the NYPD’s anti-terrorism czar. “It might be some kind of art project or statement. But we are not sure what that statement is.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/american-flags-stolen-atop-brooklyn-bridge-cops-article-1.1875673
Art project? Right.
Generally a white flag signifies surrender...
Art project? Right.
Generally a white flag signifies surrender...
Given this administration's actions may as well plant those white flags at our Southern border...yup, just another well coordinated "art project..."
Lol...probably caused by a Youtube video...
And this was done with round the clock security, amazing!
And this was done with round the clock security, amazing!
And, a multi-billion dollar annual security budget for NYC.
Oldrotorhead
07-22-2014, 18:25
So NYC makes an excuse. The Feds are silent. If you can do this is a bomb impossible? The bridge is within walking distance of NYPD Hq. there are more security agencies and police within 5 miles of the bridge than there are idiots in Congress. It's a close contest but I think I'm correct.
NurseTim
07-23-2014, 14:33
Did the French decide to take the bridge in trade for the statue?
Red Flag 1
07-23-2014, 15:14
Did the French decide to take the bridge in trade for the statue?
That was my thought too.
From an AP source, the white flags were American Flags with the red and blue colors bleached out. Wonder if that is some sort of message too?
The Reaper
07-23-2014, 17:09
And this was done with round the clock security, amazing!
Hey, it's a union crew, okay?
Lighten up a little. :D
TR
Francophile Cajun separatist home grown terrorists raising those French flags to protest American wines being rated higher than the French wines for over three decades now.
Or something as equally absurd. :rolleyes:
Richard
Team Sergeant
07-24-2014, 11:15
Brooklyn Bridge flags, a false sense of security.
I'm surprised the NSA with all it's email snooping didn't catch this "plot" against national security before it happened.
Let this be a warning that real terrorists can strike anywhere, anytime and anyplace. And the trillions spent on "national security" is a f***ing joke.
Anywhere, anytime anyplace.
This time it was a flag," blared the New York Daily News headline, "next time it could be a bomb."
Why, what would a bomb placed atop a 275' tower do
The the white flags were 11' x 20', not something you can buy at your local Home Depot.
Why, what would a bomb placed atop a 275' tower do
I think the point was the evasion of not insignificant nor inexpensive security - not necessarily the actual placement of the flag or potentially an explosive device.
But, who can get in the mind of an editor?
From what I understand, security isn't there guarding the towers which are protected by locked gates, and at 275' aren't something that would be of value to terrorists, IMO.
The the white flags were 11' x 20', not something you can buy at your local Home Depot.
Perhaps, the culprits merely bleached the existing 11'x20' foot flags...?
Perhaps, the culprits merely bleached the existing 11'x20' foot flags...?
Sure they did...how many gallons of bleach would it take to bleach those flags???
Not according to reports, and the flags on the bridge were 12' x 18'
Sure they did...how many gallons of bleach would it take to bleach those flags???
Not according to reports, and the flags on the bridge were 12' x 18'
Yup, commercially available 12' x 18' flags according to the report.
Point well taken about the bleach - and, although I am far from a chemist lots of ways around that, though.
I'm often surprised at what folks focus on...yup, those bleached out flags didn't harm anyone...
On the other hand, to me at least, that expensive false sense of security in NYC appears to be the elephant in the room.
The Reaper
07-24-2014, 14:54
Insufficient time and working space to completely bleach two flags of that size on site.
Easiest way would be pool shock and some very large containers, like wading pools, barrels, or bags.
The bridge is a suspension bridge, and sufficient charges to cut the cables aloft would dump the load back onto the lower structure, probably causing collapse, certainly causing an extended closure for inspection and repairs.
I could really care less who did this. They trespassed and if they took the flags, commited small thefts.
The real issue his HOW they did it unobserved and who failed in their security responsibilities.
THAT is what 36 people should be working to solve.
TR
IMO, They could not have accomplished this without inside knowledge.
Scimitar
07-24-2014, 16:04
THAT is what 36 people should be working to solve.
Tzadikim Nistarim?
But there's only currently 34 Jews in congress....where are the missing 2..... ;)
S
Insufficient time and working space to completely bleach two flags of that size on site.
Easiest way would be pool shock and some very large containers, like wading pools, barrels, or bags.
The bridge is a suspension bridge, and sufficient charges to cut the cables aloft would dump the load back onto the lower structure, probably causing collapse, certainly causing an extended closure for inspection and repairs.
I could really care less who did this. They trespassed and if they took the flags, commited small thefts.
The real issue his HOW they did it unobserved and who failed in their security responsibilities.
THAT is what 36 people should be working to solve.
TR
Would need a lot water with the pool shock, so unless it's available on the top of the tower, I'd rule that out.
Soaking wet flags dont't fly very well, and would be difficult/dangerous to handle/hang on the bridge.
I'd think it would be easier to blow the bridge on the roadway.
I think the failure could have been prevented more with technology rather than humans. Cameras and sensors!
The Reaper
07-24-2014, 17:02
Would need a lot water with the pool shock, so unless it's available on the top of the tower, I'd rule that out.
Soaking wet flags dont't fly very well, and would be difficult/dangerous to handle/hang on the bridge.
I'd think it would be easier to blow the bridge on the roadway.
I think the failure could have been prevented more with technology rather than humans. Cameras and sensors!
I said that I believe the flags were bleached ahead of time, not on top of the tower.
Suspension bridges require a different attack, and the cables are the weak points. Especially 150 year-old bridges. Surface detonation destruction requires a tremendously larger quantity of demo. Probably best not to get into that here.
There are cameras covering the bridge, but without someone alert and knowledgable watching them, they are forensic tools only.
TR
Maybe the bridge was for sale and those flags signified that it was sold .... to the Chinese via the Phrench.
Oldrotorhead
07-24-2014, 17:15
We can fix this with a few more tens of millions of federal tax dollars.. Just wait for it.
I said that I believe the flags were bleached ahead of time, not on top of the tower.
Suspension bridges require a different attack, and the cables are the weak points. Especially 150 year-old bridges. Surface detonation destruction requires a tremendously larger quantity of demo. Probably best not to get into that here.
There are cameras covering the bridge, but without someone alert and knowledgable watching them, they are forensic tools only.
TR
I know you did, sorry I didn't make myself clear on that.
I believe cameras only monitor the roadways and walkways, not the towers and suspension cables.
Two German Artists Claim Brooklyn Bridge Flag Stunt
http://news.yahoo.com/two-german-artists-claim-brooklyn-bridge-flag-stunt-113302271.html;_ylt=AwrTccNJc.tTRlUAIzcPxQt.
And so it goes...
Richard
Their punishment should be having to fly German flags in front of their homes back in Germany for a year