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Sdiver
05-15-2014, 13:08
Did I miss something, have honey bees been labeled as domestic terrorists ???

Solicitation Number:
USDAOIGWEA-5-7-14 Notice Type:
Sources Sought
Synopsis:
Added: May 07, 2014 2:03 pm
The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, located in Washington, DC, pursuant to the authority of FAR Part 13, has a requirement for the commerical acquisition of submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&W, ambidextrous safety, semi-automatic or 2 shot burts trigger group, Tritium night sights for front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore grip) and scope (top rear), stock-collapsilbe or folding, magazine - 30 rd. capacity, sling, light weight, and oversized trigger guard for gloved operation. NO SOLICITATION DOCUMENT EXISTS. All responsible and/or interested sources may submit their company name, point of contact, and telephone. If received timely, shall be considered by the agency for contact to determine weapon suitability.

Contracting Office Address:
1400 Independence Ave., SW, Room 40-E J.L. Whitten Fed Bldg
Washington, District of Columbia 20250

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=9fc3a01217d03b0354e1e18b69aa7bad&tab=core&_cview=0

Snaquebite
05-15-2014, 13:09
Saw that this morning and said WTF?

Streck-Fu
05-15-2014, 13:11
Going to help the FDA go after those organic farmers and raw milk cults because SWAT/SRT....

fng13
05-15-2014, 13:39
They should get HK to start making mp5 .40's again or maybe they can just borrow off the FBI. Either way the market needs more parts kits.

I'd think with the impending doom of the range wars they'd be looking at more of a belt-fed option than sub guns ;) :D

Snaquebite
05-15-2014, 14:23
Now that I think about it...Forestry Service? But, don't they operate under their own budget?

Golf1echo
05-15-2014, 16:50
Getting our race approvals through USFS on a local level they are Dept of Agriculture, as said. They actually have quite a few enforcement slots.
http://www.fs.usda.gov/r2/

Over the years I understood " The Forest service is about preservation and the Park Service is about recreation."

Javadrinker
05-15-2014, 17:22
interesting .. more and more law enforcement "NEEDS" fully automatic weapons but the citizens do not need guns. wtf?

The Reaper
05-15-2014, 17:27
An SMG is a CQB weapon, unless I am mistaken.

That means indoor engagements, probably SWAT like.

Any guy roaming outside or looking for a patrol gun would be much better off with an M-4.

TR

Roguish Lawyer
05-15-2014, 19:06
An SMG is a CQB weapon, unless I am mistaken.

That means indoor engagements, probably SWAT like.

Any guy roaming outside or looking for a patrol gun would be much better off with an M-4.

TR

A lot of shit goes down in chicken coops and dairy farms

Ambush Master
05-15-2014, 19:12
That was EXACTLY my thought when I read that.

Actually I prefer a 12 gauge pump at CQB but I am not a CQB expert by any stretch of the imagination. My idea of room clearing is throw in a WP and move on.

Shotguns are a Bitch to Silence!!!

WarriorDiplomat
05-15-2014, 19:29
A lot of shit goes down in chicken coops and dairy farms

Can't speak for the chickens but the hogs and cattle tend to run in packs and have been know to pie corners and use shock and awe when cornered. Whats goes on,... on the farm stays on the farm.

Team Sergeant
05-15-2014, 20:01
It's time for a "DisarmtheFeds.com" website........ some federal agencies do not require weapons........

Tree Potato
05-15-2014, 20:11
WTF with a 2 shot burst?

30% cost savings per trigger pull compared to a 3 round burst. They're saving money.

JamesIkanov
05-15-2014, 21:45
I'm reminded of when people got very confused as to why the Dept. of energy needed a SWAT team. My best guess is either factory farms, or those nice farmers who dump a couple hundred gallons of left over pig crap/AN fertilizer into rivers.

As for the two round burst thing, I've heard it's popular with some of the feds for control and accuracy versus full auto and three round burst. Then again it's mostly reserved for shoot to kill kinda shit, like HRT/raids and what not as far as I've been told, so I have no idea who or what the department of agriculture needs to be killing? :munchin

Sdiver
05-15-2014, 22:22
Could this be the weapon being requested by the USDA ???

:munchin

MR2
05-15-2014, 22:45
WTF with a 2 shot burst?

30% cost savings per trigger pull compared to a 3 round burst. They're saving money.

I'd prefer a 100% cost savings and they close the damn department! :mad:

Snaquebite
05-16-2014, 05:16
I'm curious as who the responses will be from. Sounds pretty vague and H&K quit making .40's several years ago IIRC. Is there something out there that fits this request?

JJ_BPK
05-16-2014, 05:49
I'm curious as who the responses will be from. Sounds pretty vague and H&K quit making .40's several years ago IIRC. Is there something out there that fits this request?

Couple,


Kriss K10
RRA LA-40 < couple Ar builders do dedicated lowers for pistol ammo.
Glock 18
Strike One

fng13
05-16-2014, 07:43
I'm curious as who the responses will be from. Sounds pretty vague and H&K quit making .40's several years ago IIRC. Is there something out there that fits this request?

There is a .40 conversion for the UMP I believe.

Box
05-16-2014, 07:52
We won't need submachine guns once we figure out how to disarm everyone all you really need is some jackboots and a leather wrapped lead sap...

I am so looking forward to opressing the weak !!!

Kyobanim
05-16-2014, 09:50
A lot of shit goes down in chicken coops and dairy farms

LOL, good one

GratefulCitizen
05-16-2014, 17:52
The Feds are getting gun and ammo manufacturers dependent upon government contracts.
They'll take out loans to expand their businesses, and need revenue to service these loans.

Later, there will be a gun control push on the supply side.
Whoever doesn't play ball loses their contract, and goes out of business.

WarriorDiplomat
05-16-2014, 18:20
It's time for a "DisarmtheFeds.com" website........ some federal agencies do not require weapons........

Government creep slowly working on the American psyche on disarming ourselves and using situations like the Bundy ranch situation to justify the need for firearms.

cat in the hat
05-17-2014, 05:48
A lot of shit goes down in chicken coops and dairy farms

almost as much as get produces in the whitehouse and congress.

almost.

JJ_BPK
05-19-2014, 04:15
I am trying to think up a joke regarding the Department of Agriculture using potato guns.

Ya can't shoot tatters without a-salt-guns..

:D:lifter:lifter:D

link: A-Salt-Gun (http://bugasalt.com/)

TrapperFrank
05-19-2014, 10:55
Damn, why didn't the USDA get this kind of stuff when I worked for them?