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Commission Finds ‘No Compelling Medical Reason’ To Exclude Transgender Americans From Military
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/03/13/commission-finds-no-compelling-medical-reason-to-exclude-transgender-americans-from-military/
And the hits just keep on coming...
"...and that President Barack Obama could lift the decades-old ban without approval from Congress, according to a report being released Thursday....:
From the article
"...The ban also appears based on the assumption that providing hormone treatment and sex reassignment surgeries would be too difficult, disruptive and expensive..."
In these days of penny pinching against the military we are going to allow transgenders - and then pay for their reassignments? Hey, what's $30,000 when you want to be PC?
The Reaper
03-13-2014, 11:47
Why not add the blind and the deaf as well?
How can we deny them the opportunity to serve?
And I guess we can toss the "good order and discipline" requirement and the "needs of the service" out the window as well.
I thought we had more than 100,000 excess military members that we will have to eliminate?
Do we need more high maintenance soldiers at this time?
BS, I think it is time for you to stop providing input on what the military should do until you have served.
TR
My biggest question is what happens to ex-women who are now "men" and want to serve in male-only roles. Will the Army allow them to serve but continue to deny them certain jobs based on their original gender?
On top of that, how is "transgender" going to be defined? Is it anyone who says they feel more comfortable being the opposite gender? Only people taking hormone therapy? Only people who have undergone the reassignment surgery?
Trying to define and work around all that seems like a big unnecessary hassle.
PedOncoDoc
03-13-2014, 12:37
Why not add the blind and the deaf as well?
How can we deny them the opportunity to serve?
And I guess we can toss the "good order and discipline" requirement and the "needs of the service" out the window as well.
I thought we had more than 100,000 excess military members that we will have to eliminate?
Do we need more high maintenance soldiers at this time?
BS, I think it is time for you to stop providing input on what the military should do until you have served.
TR
What about the profoundly mentally retarded? Oh wait, they're already working on capitol hill... :rolleyes:
How about we break it down to bare simplicity..
If you enlist and have a penis you are a man.
If you enlist and have a vagina you are a woman.
Why not add the blind...as well? How can we deny them the opportunity to serve?
It might be interesting to hear Ivan Castro's thoughts.
http://www.army.mil/article/32083/blind-officer-graduates-maneuver-captains-career-course/
I think there are a couple more blind officers serving as well. MAJ Smiley at Gonzaga ROTC is one I read about IIRC.
However, granting an 'exception to policy' once serving and haven proven yourself vs 'initial entry' are not quite the same things.
Richard
How about we break it down to bare simplicity..
If you enlist and have a penis you are a man.
If you enlist and have a vagina you are a woman.
Too much common sense.
The Reaper
03-13-2014, 13:47
It might be interesting to hear Ivan Castro's thoughts.
http://www.army.mil/article/32083/blind-officer-graduates-maneuver-captains-career-course/
I think there are a couple more blind officers serving as well. MAJ Smiley at Gonzaga ROTC is one I read about IIRC.
However, granting an 'exception to policy' once serving and haven proven yourself vs 'initial entry' are not quite the same things.
Richard
We are talking about enlistments, not re-enlistment.
And what do you think CPT Castro going to be doing in the Army in the future?
TR
ddoering
03-13-2014, 19:58
From the article
"...The ban also appears based on the assumption that providing hormone treatment and sex reassignment surgeries would be too difficult, disruptive and expensive..."
In these days of penny pinching against the military we are going to allow transgenders - and then pay for their reassignments? Hey, what's $30,000 when you want to be PC?
Hhhmmm, reassignment. I wonder if they will get credit for a PCS/ end of tour award.
Stiletto11
03-14-2014, 07:04
Since the military draws from society and if society it draws from is screwed up then it only stands to reason the military will be screwed up. Then add inept leadership from the top down and the whole thing is a disaster. The few that are squared away will most likely leave or be admonished leaving it in a sorry state. Just my 2/100's of a FRN.
Monsoon65
03-15-2014, 17:34
As when they allowed gays to openly serve, they use the same reason:
National Security.
Well, I guess since I'm a drunken meth-head, I should be able to serve. Since I'm open about my addictions, this can't be used against me as blackmail.
:rolleyes:
As when they allowed gays to openly serve, they use the same reason:
National Security.
Well, I guess since I'm a drunken meth-head, I should be able to serve. Since I'm open about my addictions, this can't be used against me as blackmail.
:rolleyes:
Maybe, if you are a transgendered drunken meth-head, there has to be some standards. :)
...by the time we rid the military of all the tattoo having, no shaving on leave, no wearing a belt with their blue jeans, skull and cross bones unit loge wearing shit bags that are polluting the military we will have plenty of room for the transgendered Americans that are lined up in front of the recruiting offices around the country.
You hippies need to get haircuts and quit complaining about who can and cannot serve.
future Transgenders are just looking for a way to get the government to pay for sexual reassignment. These folks enlist then 6 months later they're on a year profile while they are going through hormon replacement and surgery all on the tax payer dime.
future Transgenders are just looking for a way to get the government to pay for sexual reassignment. These folks enlist then 6 months later they're on a year profile while they are going through hormon replacement and surgery all on the tax payer dime.
I would surmise that WE already pay for their reassignments.
...by the time we rid the military of all the tattoo having, no shaving on leave, no wearing a belt with their blue jeans, skull and cross bones unit loge wearing shit bags that are polluting the military we will have plenty of room for the transgendered Americans that are lined up in front of the recruiting offices around the country.
You hippies need to get haircuts and quit complaining about who can and cannot serve.
Yeah, I'll trade a guy with tattoos all over his arms for a transgender anyday. :rolleyes:
Ghost_Team
03-16-2014, 15:45
I think I am going to start checking the "African American" block on employment applications and introduce myself as Jesus Christ.
I figure I have just as much right to do that and be recognized as such as a man thinking he is a woman and vice versa.
I like that when all of this "all we want is equal rights" business started anyone that even suggested that we were headed for a military that would be distracted by leadership challenges like transgender issues and other such nonsense were dismissed out of pocket as being homophobic and irrational.
So whats next...
...surely all we are dealing with is a harmless desire to let innocent transsexuals serve their country just like everyone else.
I am still looking forward to NAMBLA lobbying congress for acceptance on a national scale.
...pederasty is a victimless crime if both parties are consenting isn't it?
Congress has become fiscally and morally corrupt and any challenge from an opposing viewpoint is written off as either racism, homophobia, or chauvinism.
Starting to sum up my thoughts...
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-ICv2Jum7uhbb42/the_deer_hunter_1978_officer_fuck_it/
MiTTMedic
03-17-2014, 12:34
New Army recruiting campaign: "Be who you Wanna Be"