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Badger52
08-13-2013, 18:53
An interesting list; but little unexpected on it. Some good places not to be.
The real estate website NeighborhoodScout.com has compiled a list of the nation’s 25 most dangerous neighborhoods
It’s always important to remember that crime is neighborhood-based, and one neighborhood can be as dangerous as Nigeria and the next one as safe as Sweden, depending on a whole lot of demographic and land-use factors. My first contact with Clayton Cramer’s work was through a piece he submitted to the American Rifleman detailing the differentials in murder rates among Los Angeles-area communities. Many were quite surprising, even when two jurisdictions were just separated by a freeway.
Table and rest of the article can be found here:
http://www.shotgunnews.com/2013/08/02/the-nations-25-most-dangerous-neighborhoods/#ixzz2btshMwZg
Edit: #1 son was TDY few weeks ago to a Res Cen down in STL, things were running late, and the HMFIC of the building was telling everyone to get out of there because it was almost 1700 and they wanted everyone out of the AO. Apparently there are new pockmarks in the walls each morning....
Yup, if you want a safe haven go east to Gary , In.
Remington Raidr
08-13-2013, 19:22
I could be wrong, but from what I have read Sweden aint that safe no mo':rolleyes:
Scimitar
08-13-2013, 19:48
What surprises me, is nothing on the east coast whatsoever. Would have thought LA would have been given an honourable mention.
S
The Reaper
08-13-2013, 21:24
Crip:
Number 5 and 8 look familiar?
TR
Team Sergeant
08-13-2013, 21:42
What surprises me, is nothing on the east coast whatsoever. Would have thought LA would have been given an honourable mention.
S
That would be "west" coast..... go do pushups......:rolleyes:
Scimitar
08-14-2013, 00:54
oops...
Thanks TR,
It's cos I'm down under this year, it messes with your internal compass don't ya know
...and that's my story and I'm sticking to it. :D
That reminds of the time I hadn't slept for 48, and was being taught Land Nav by a friendly Major, failed to carry the 1 on the compass calcs and ended up taking the fair Major on a long walk 100 degrees in the wrong direction.
After more then a few miles, the patient Major spoke up and said "Son, pull your head out of your ass, and your map while your at it, and look around you."
That was the night I learnt all about Dead Reckoning.... :lifter
No other choice really, seeing as the said Major had taken my compass as a punishment. :D
S
Baltimore did not make the list..or I looked wrong.
Or even DC.....what a toilet
AL
Neighborhood?
I wonder how they picked "neighborhood" for each neighborhood?
Looking at the base maps the neighborhoods vary a great deal in size.
Baltimore did not make the list..or I looked wrong.
Or even DC.....what a toilet
AL
I'm thinking they left out all the usual suspects besides Detroit. Also, while on the topic of DC being a toilet, when you drive on DC-295 north/south around where it meets up with I-95, it actually smells like a toilet. There is the blue plains waste water treatment plant right there, and those fumes kill me during the morning/afternoon commute. DC really is the asshole of America.
I am betting they used census tract info to define each neighborhood.
Also, BryanK and Albeham, it would be interesting to see if any Baltimore and DC neighborhoods made the Top 100. Detroit looks to be the worst of the worst.
It also seems like DC has made some progress in cleaning up neighborhoods. Heading through DC to get to I395, I used to have to drive through an area that I not-so-fondly called Crack Alley, and a number of the walk ups there had front doors featuring shot gun blasts through them. I hardly recognize the neighborhood now. It has really cleaned up, as has the area around the Verizon Center with the growth there.
I also remember shootings of drivers on the Anacostia freeway. I haven't heard anything like that happening in quite a while.
I, too, was kinda surprised to not see East LA, Miami, Atlanta, South Dallas, Stockton, Richmond (CA), Oakland, and a few others on that list. And I, too, would be curious to see the top 100 or even 250 on that list.
Richard
I am betting they used census tract info to define each neighborhood.
Also, BryanK and Albeham, it would be interesting to see if any Baltimore and DC neighborhoods made the Top 100. Detroit looks to be the worst of the worst.
It also seems like DC has made some progress in cleaning up neighborhoods. Heading through DC to get to I395, I used to have to drive through an area that I not-so-fondly called Crack Alley, and a number of the walk ups there had front doors featuring shot gun blasts through them. I hardly recognize the neighborhood now. It has really cleaned up, as has the area around the Verizon Center with the growth there.
I also remember shootings of drivers on the Anacostia freeway. I haven't heard anything like that happening in quite a while.
They did make the top 100 according to the same website (NeighborhoodScout). Baltimore beating out DC was a surprise Top 100 most dangerous cities (http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/crime-rates/top100dangerous/)
DC ranks in at 46 while Baltimore ranks in at 27. I'm very happy that I do not live in that AO anymore even though it has improved over the years. Some friends and I discussed this a couple years back and we came to the conclusion that when the rent/mortgage rates went up in formerly bad areas, and the housing project properties were bought up, it essentially made the riffraff move elsewhere. Drained the pool of available dwellings so to speak. I don't have any hard data to back up that claim, but friends that still live in the area confirm our theory.
I've seen this in southern MD as well. Former DC dregs of society have now sprawled out into what were once great neighborhoods, but due to lower cost of living, they have infested these areas, and they are now screwed up. Could someone please pass the napalm?
Golf1echo
08-14-2013, 07:13
Crip:
Number 5 and 8 look familiar?
TR
Did not realize Crip had such a good training area, it would be good to know exactly where these areas are but something tells me there are indicators.
It's interesting to compare the neighborhood vs city rankings.
Richard
Airbornelawyer
08-14-2013, 08:27
#12 Memphis, TN:
It's E.H. Crump Blvd., not Eh Crump. The other Memphis neighborhood is about a mile away, and the whole area around there, not just those two places, is bad. Indeed, if you go to the NeighborhoodScout website and look up Memphis, the crime heat map shows E.H. Crump/S 4th as better than some of the adjoining neighborhoods. Perhaps there is a difference in the dates for the data sources. I don't see in the articles which years these crime rates are for.
Richard,
If you look at the specific cities, you can also see the heat maps of the neighborhoods within those cities.
I lived in Washington, DC during the height of the crack and gang wars in the late 1980s when DC was the murder capital of the US. My neighborhood was relatively safe. Cross the Anacostia River and you were in the Wild West.
I echo BryanK about So. Maryland. White flight from DC in the 60s and 70s was followed by black flight, as middle-class blacks also left the city, especiallt to Prince George's County, Maryland. Now, in a weird turn, as more affluent blacks move back into gentrified neighborhoods in DC, those PG County neighborhoods have been going to pot.
I, too, was kinda surprised to not see East LA, Miami, Atlanta, South Dallas, Stockton, Richmond (CA), Oakland, and a few others on that list. And I, too, would be curious to see the top 100 or even 250 on that list.
Richard
Myjamee,, we don't need no stink'n lists, Mano, eres tremendamente maricón.
:D
ghp95134
08-14-2013, 12:45
That would be "west" coast..... go do pushups......:rolleyes:
AKA "Left Coast"
"\(^__^)/"
[waving arms]
mark46th
08-14-2013, 14:41
Living in Southern California and working in some of the places I have worked, I can't believe we couldn't break into the top 25. My testicles feel a little smaller.
Scimitar
08-14-2013, 17:26
...
S**t, that's one hell of a medical condition...
Five words.... Wear a condom next time.
:D
Nice slice!
Quartz_MJC
08-21-2013, 12:44
In line with this thread, I looked up the 100 most dangerous cities to live.
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/crime-rates/top100dangerous/
I crossed referenced the cities to counties and reasearched which counties voted for Obama in the 2012 election. It may be resonable to assume that these counties could be considered Democratic, as oppossed to Republican. However, I make no such assumption as I do not have the history and demographic data to make that statement. I however can make the statement the counties these cities reside in voted for Obama in the last election. This county voting data can be found at :
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/ohio/
Okay with the disclaimer and references out of the way the results are thus. Of the 100 worst places to live 77 reside in counties which voted for Obama while 23 reside in counties which voted for Romney.
I do not find it remarkable that there are nearly 3 times as many 'Worst Cities" in the "BLUE" camp....just saying.
#12 Memphis, TN:
It's E.H. Crump Blvd., not Eh Crump. The other Memphis neighborhood is about a mile away, and the whole area around there, not just those two places, is bad. Indeed, if you go to the NeighborhoodScout website and look up Memphis, the crime heat map shows E.H. Crump/S 4th as better than some of the adjoining neighborhoods. Perhaps there is a difference in the dates for the data sources. I don't see in the articles which years these crime rates are for.
Richard,
If you look at the specific cities, you can also see the heat maps of the neighborhoods within those cities.
I lived in Washington, DC during the height of the crack and gang wars in the late 1980s when DC was the murder capital of the US. My neighborhood was relatively safe. Cross the Anacostia River and you were in the Wild West.
I echo BryanK about So. Maryland. White flight from DC in the 60s and 70s was followed by black flight, as middle-class blacks also left the city, especiallt to Prince George's County, Maryland. Now, in a weird turn, as more affluent blacks move back into gentrified neighborhoods in DC, those PG County neighborhoods have been going to pot.
Memphis! :rolleyes: I had a visitor last night. A retired QP and my former Team Sgt. He also is a retired Memphis PO-lice officer having served in several of the more "dynamic" units of MPD. He and his record are legendary in MPD. Memphis has always had a lot of violent crime and Memphis PO-Lice have always had a suitably violent response (google "Shannon Street Massacre.") He informed me that MPD has thus far this year laid roughly 15 misguided individuals to rest. So could be worse there, I suppose, without the no nonsense stance of a lot of MPD.
mojaveman
08-21-2013, 19:13
Living in Southern California and working in some of the places I have worked, I can't believe we couldn't break into the top 25. My testicles feel a little smaller.
Agree.
South Central Los Angeles, East Los Angeles, Compton, San Bernardino. There are some real sh*tholes here in Southern California. I'm sure some neighborhoods in these cities would have made at least the top 50 list. I've too worked in some of these areas and didn't feel safe there in the daytime.
The_Mentalist
08-21-2013, 19:24
Memphis! :rolleyes: I had a visitor last night. A retired QP and my former Team Sgt. He also is a retired Memphis PO-lice officer having served in several of the more "dynamic" units of MPD. He and his record are legendary in MPD. Memphis has always had a lot of violent crime and Memphis PO-Lice have always had a suitably violent response (google "Shannon Street Massacre.") He informed me that MPD has thus far this year laid roughly 15 misguided individuals to rest. So could be worse there, I suppose, without the no nonsense stance of a lot of MPD.
Try visiting Graceland. They have to have armed security in the parking area and shuttles to the mansion because the neighborhood has declined so badly. Heck, drive south on Lamar ave from the loop any night and you see just how fuzzed up Memphis has become. W. Memphis used to be a great place. My aunt lived there for 60 years starting when it was where all the Memphis doctors and lawyers would live out there. Now, it is a crap hole from hell. There are a few places that I will not let my GF (we drive teams together) get out of the truck alone and I will not go unarmed. That area is one.