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Team Sergeant
06-15-2013, 15:52
You couldn't make this shit up if you tried......In just a few years we've become a nation of idiots, ruled by morons.


Obama's pick to be CIA #2 used to run 'Erotica Nights' readings after dropping out of grad school
From POST WIRE SERVICES
Last Updated: 12:06 PM, June 13, 2013
Posted: 11:22 AM, June 13, 2013

President Obama meets with National Security staff in the Oval Office, March 8, 2012. Clockwise from the President are: Jeff Eggers, Director for Afghanistan and Central Region; David Holmes, Director for Afghanistan; Avril Haines, Deputy Counsel to the President; Dennis McDonough, Deputy National Security Advisor; National Security Advisor Tom Donilon; and Lt. Gen. Doug Lute, Senior Director for Afghanistan and Pakistan.
President Obama's choice for the number two position at the CIA will be the highest ranking woman to ever serve in the CIA -- and she used to own a bookstore that featured regular erotica readings.

White House lawyer Avril Haines is slated to take the reigns as the Deputy Director of the CIA the White House confirmed yesterday, but before she rose through the ranks to become one of America's top spies Haines opened and co-owned Adrian's Book Cafe in Baltimore that featured a regular "Erotica Nights."

A then-24-year-old Haines opened the bookstore in 1994 when she dropped out of a graduate program in physics at Johns Hopkins University. With her 29-year-old pilot boyfriend, Haines renovated a boarded-up old strip club in Baltimore's waterfront neighborhood of Fells Point and turned it into the regular meeting place for a small community of erotica aficionados.

During the monthly gatherings, dinner would be served before guests either presented their own erotic work or performed readings from genre luminaries like Milan Kunderea, Isabel Anllende, and the godmother of vampire-fiction Anne Rice, reports The Daily Beast.

"Erotica has become more prevalent because people are trying to have sex without having sex," Haines told the Baltimore Sun in 1995. "Others are trying to find new fantasies to make their monogamous relationships more satisfying. ... What the erotic offers is spontaneity, twists and turns. And it affects everyone."

To set the mood, Haines setup one erotica night reading by placing red candles throughout her bookstore before she got pulses racing with a reading from Rice's "The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty," which was written under the pseudonym A. N. Roquelaure.

"In the topmost bed chamber of the house (the prince) found her. He had stepped over sleeping chambermaids and valets, and, breathing the dust and damp of the place, he finally stood in the door of her sanctuary," Haines read. "And approaching her, he gave a soft gasp as he touched her cheek, and her teeth through her parted lips, and then her tender rounded eyelids."

In another passage from the same book Rice wrote, "He mounted her, parting her legs, giving the white inner flesh of her thighs a soft, deep pinch, and, clasping her right breast in his left hand, he thrust his sex into her."

"He was holding her up as he did this, to gather her mouth to him, and as he broke through her innocence, he opened her mouth with his tongue and pinched her breast sharply."

"He sucked on her lips, he drew the life out of her into himself, and feeling his seed explode within her, heard her cry out."

"And then her blue eyes opened."

Haines, 43, has been a White House deputy assistant and deputy counsel for national security affairs since 2010. Before that, she was assistant legal adviser for treaty affairs at the State Department, according to a White House statement.

Haines has participated in virtually every senior-level meeting at the president's National Security Council over the past two years and chairs the White House legal team that reviews the CIA's most sensitive programs.

"In every instance, Avril's command of substance, sense of mission, good judgment, and keen insights have been outstanding," White House counterterrorism adviser John Brennan said.

With AP.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/highest_ranking_woman_nights_after_EdfXR6r5Fa5IcTe bsL6qCI

Pete
06-15-2013, 16:18
She is the best of the best of the best..................

Said in my best MIB I voice.

tonyz
06-15-2013, 16:50
The entire tenure of the Obama administration has been a 24/7 recitation of how to F#%k the Constitution.

Trapper John
06-15-2013, 18:34
Rumor has it that if she turned down the job, Heidi Fleiss was available. :rolleyes:

Beef
06-15-2013, 19:25
Maybe she gives private readings in the Oval Office. It's been done before.... And #2 position at CIA? I mean how much harm could she do? She's not in charge. She may even lighten up some of her hardline counterparts at the ISI.

cedsall
06-15-2013, 20:00
You couldn't make this stuff up....

I have to check everything I read in the news these days to ensure it's not sourced from the Onion or Duffleblog. The line between reality and fiction has pretty much disappeared.

PRB
06-15-2013, 20:08
I don't know how to process this....

aegisnavy
06-16-2013, 00:26
You couldn't make this shit up if you tried......In just a few years we've become a nation of idiots, ruled by morons.

Agreed. I feel this way every day.

Geenie
06-16-2013, 01:24
Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal?

Guy
06-16-2013, 03:24
Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal?What gives you the impression she's qualified for the #2 position? :munchin

JJ_BPK
06-16-2013, 05:44
What gives you the impression she's qualified for the #2 position? :munchin

Just what the WH ordered..


:munchin

SF_BHT
06-16-2013, 06:56
Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal?

You know you might want to come back here and get a dose of reality if you are asking a question like that. She has no creds to be the #2 for the CIA. I will bet you if she applied for a job through the normal process she would not make the cut.:munchin

98G
06-16-2013, 07:50
Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal?

If you think of what qualifications you would like to see as the second in command of a central intelligence agency, would you like to see someone with a career that started young and progressed to build a solid foundation of expertise?

Or do you think any diverse background will do?

When I was stationed in Germany (FRG back then), German businesses required extensive education and experience to fill senior management. And out of 60 million people (then), there were many qualified applicants for each job. And Germany was #1 for exports despite its smaller size, population, expensive labor and lack of natural resources. Are you saying that was just luck?

In the US, we are a nation of over 300 million people. Doing the math, we should have enough qualified people to fill each senior position in government. Yet somehow... :(

Paslode
06-16-2013, 08:20
oYou know you might want to come back here and get a dose of reality if you are asking a question like that. She has no creds to be the #2 for the CIA. I will bet you if she applied for a job through the normal process she would not make the cut.:munchin


She qualifies as a good distraction and great potential for becoming road kill under the wheels of the Obama bus.

My bet would be that she is merely a front and others will be pulling her strings.

Paslode
06-16-2013, 08:33
That's a Bingo!

Didn't a bona fide porn star run for governmor of Cali once? I prediect that O's Admin use that as a precedent in this case.

:munchin


A stooge, Parrott or Muppet....that's would be my take, unless she had some experience we don't know about like the KGB.

Badger52
06-16-2013, 08:34
A stooge, Parrott or Muppet....that's would be my take, unless she had some experience we don't know about like the KGB.
Shhhhh... Tom Cruise called. So NOC it off.

Richard
06-16-2013, 08:36
Seems as if her choice suggests BHO wants a close ally.

Richard

Why Obama Chose Woman With No CIA Experience For No. 2 CIA Job
CSM, 13 June 2013

Plucking from a collection of high-powered female lawyers serving the White House, President Obama has nominated Avril Haines as the next deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

Ms. Haines is the first woman to hold the job. She replaces Michael Morell, who announced his retirement after more than three decades in the CIA to spend time with family. She’s an unexpected pick in that she hasn’t any background with the agency. In fact, Haines was slated just a couple months ago to move to the State Department as its legal adviser.

How unusual is it for a lawyer – and one without spook experience – to fill such a powerful agency job?

One former senior CIA official tells the Monitor that her nomination has prompted surprise among his former colleagues, not due to Haines’s gender, of course, but because she is a relative unknown in the community. He says the law is “not a typical track” for the deputy director job and that she’ll likely “face some skepticism among the ranks until she can prove that she has learned the intricacies of the organization and doesn’t automatically default to an overly legalistic, risk averse, view of everything.”

“She has the disadvantage of following Michael Morell who is much admired across the board,” the official adds. “Thirty-three years of experience being replaced by none. She faces quite an uphill climb.”

CIA Director John Brennan provided his full support for Haines, however, suggesting “she knows more about covert action than anyone in the US government outside of the CIA.”

"She has participated in virtually every Deputies and Principals Committee meeting over the past two years and chairs the Lawyers' Group that reviews the agency's most sensitive programs," he added, in a statement reported by UPI.

But the former senior CIA official says Haines’s experience doesn’t add up to the job. “Sitting in National Security Council meetings on covert action is nice, but being deputy CIA director involves much, much more than covert action, and she has no known experience in those things,” he says.

Forget about the women angle, or the lawyer piece, or, for that matter, Haines’s lack of agency experience, says Philip Mudd, former deputy director of the CIA’s Counterterrorist Center. With Mr. Brennan and Haines in the top two jobs, the CIA has a direct pipeline to the White House.

“I think this underscores the relevance of the CIA in the post-9/11 era,” Mudd says. “You want people with firepower there – and that’s political firepower. Because the White House needs that agency in ways they’ve never needed it before.”

Mudd says the CIA is a flat organization – it’s not military-oriented and it’s not hierarchical.

“The key question people on the inside are going to ask is, ‘Is she going to listen?’ ” Mudd says. “It’s a proud organization. They’re going to sniff her. ‘Is she going to ask us what we think?’ ”

At the White House, Haines served as deputy assistant to the president and deputy counsel to the president for national security affairs. According to her White House bio, the Georgetown University Law Center graduate formerly worked for the State Department as assistant legal adviser for treaty affairs and in the office of the legal adviser. And she served as deputy chief counsel for the majority on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. She holds a bachelor’s degree in physics from the University of Chicago.

Some are suggesting the Haines appointment is less about elevating her than ousting Mr. Morell for his role in extracting from official administration talking points references to the CIA’s warnings that terrorists could attack the Benghazi diplomatic compound.

The Benghazi controversy continues to dog the Obama administration politically.

Morell issued a statement pushing back on that speculation.

“Whenever someone involved in the rough and tumble of Washington decides to move on, there is speculation in various quarters about the ‘real reason,’” he said. “But when I say that it is time for my family, nothing could be more real than that.”

Morell’s last day is Aug. 9. Haines is not subject to Senate confirmation in the new post.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/2013/0613/Why-Obama-chose-woman-with-no-CIA-experience-for-No.-2-CIA-job

Paslode
06-16-2013, 08:42
Shhhhh... Tom Cruise called. So NOC it off.

I have watched every MI episode and
Movies, plus Alias, plus the Bourne series......

LMAO!

Trapper John
06-16-2013, 08:44
“I think this underscores the relevance of the CIA in the post-9/11 era,” Mudd says. “You want people with firepower there – and that’s political firepower. Because the White House needs that agency in ways they’ve never needed it before.”


That about says it all doesn't it?

cbtengr
06-16-2013, 09:22
You all do not like her just because she is a woman, it's the war on women that the "Right" is so noted for that drives your dislike for her. It has nothing to do with her qualifications.

tonyz
06-16-2013, 09:23
o


She qualifies as a good distraction and great potential for becoming road kill under the wheels of the Obama bus.

My bet would be that she is merely a front and others will be pulling her strings.

She's the WH Political Officer inside of Langley.

Dusty
06-16-2013, 09:32
Not much of a surprise.

SF_BHT
06-16-2013, 09:55
She's the WH Political Officer inside of Langley.

She is the Minder..... Mole, Political Officer, wonder if she will hoste Book Readings on Federal Fridays:p

Team Sergeant
06-16-2013, 11:36
Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal?

Actually you may have something there, when you compare her credentials to the socialist that appointed her to the post. Neither one possesses the experience or the intelligence to operate a day-care center.

Just a few more years and the deliberate destruction of this country and it's culture should be complete. I heard obama was going to appoint louis farrakhan as Sec of State until kerry said he could do a much better job at destroying America's image/standing to the rest of the world.

Badger52
06-16-2013, 12:01
She's the WH Political Officer inside of Langley.+1 some would call it 'Zampolit.' That is a 2-edged blade. Inside the building they are savvy enough to use that conduit.

(Also, I know some folks first-person who would disagree with Mr. Mudd's assessment in the article. Trying to sell the CIA as a 'flat' or non-heirarchical organization won't cut it - try again.)

Dusty
06-16-2013, 12:20
I heard obama was going to appoint louis farrakhan as Sec of State until kerry said he could do a much better job at destroying America's image/standing to the rest of the world.

That, and Louie can't read a teleprompter. ;)

Paslode
06-16-2013, 12:20
Another view from Bloomberg:

She was a leading intellectual author of Obama’s May 23 speech at the National Defense University, when he said it was high time for the U.S. to run the Sept. 11 counterattack under the laws of war. Obama made it clear that he wants to know the enemy before killing the enemy: “We must make decisions based not on fear but on hard-earned wisdom -- and that begins with understanding the current threat that we face.” And he also wants to know how this war will someday come to a close. “This war, like all wars, must end," he said. "That’s what history advises. It’s what our democracy demands.”


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-13/avril-haines-the-right-woman-to-clean-up-the-cia.html

tonyz
06-16-2013, 12:52
+1 some would call it 'Zampolit.' That is a 2-edged blade. Inside the building they are savvy enough to use that conduit.

(Also, I know some folks first-person who would disagree with Mr. Mudd's assessment in the article. Trying to sell the CIA as a 'flat' or non-heirarchical organization won't cut it - try again.)

Concur on both counts.

She has absolutely no historical, institutional knowledge of where the bodies are buried and why and by whom. She may be smart, but just 12 years out of law school - she does not yet know - what she does not know - about an entirely different profession.

She will also have her ego played by some maestros.

She is at best a tool - at worst...we shall see.

Sounds eerily like the WH.

Oh, and there was this:

DIRECTOR’S ADVISORY GROUP
on WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP UNCLASSIFIED REPORT

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/710191/report-cia-women-in-leadership.pdf

ddoering
06-16-2013, 16:09
If she is really a tool I'm sure a CD of classified will be found in her POV on a random spot check going out the gate.:munchin

tonyz
06-16-2013, 16:14
If she is really a tool I'm sure a CD of classified will be found in her POV on a random spot check going out the gate.:munchin

The missing CD or file or thumb drive will mysteriously appear outside of Hillary's office.;)

frostfire
06-16-2013, 23:51
I feel sorry for our fellow patriot brothers and sisters in CTC, SAD......

Truth is indeed stranger than fiction :boohoo

uspsmark
06-17-2013, 11:36
"How unusual is it for a lawyer – and one without spook experience – to fill such a powerful agency job?"

This is the bio of a very close personal friend of mine...yes, he's a lawyer and retired from the CIA). I'm sure his qualifications and accomplishments would trump anything the new appointee could present. There are lawyers in very important postitions with the Agency, however, she has no real experience compared to most of them. I'll have to ask Ed what he thinks about the new Deputy Director...

"Edmund Cohen joined the Central Intelligence Agency in 1967. He has served as an intelligence analyst and in the Office of General Counsel where he advanced to Associate General Counsel and Chief of the Administrative Law Division. Mr. Cohen was appointed Deputy Director of Personnel in 1985 and Director of Information Management in 1994. As Chief of Information Management Services, he is currently responsible for all CIA records management, archival services, classification management, and declassification and release programs. Mr. Cohen is also the CIA member of the Interagency Security Classification Appeals Panel."

ddoering
06-17-2013, 19:56
The military is banning pornography and the agency is hiring it.

Correction. Obama is reallocating it to the agency.

Sigaba
06-23-2013, 16:23
A then-24-year-old Haines opened the bookstore in 1994 when she dropped out of a graduate program in physics at Johns Hopkins University.
I don't see what the problem is. She clearly knows what matters.:p
Can someone explain to me why this is such a big deal?Can the nation's secrets be trusted with someone who was reading "erotica" after John Stagliano's discovery of gonzo?*:munchin
She holds a bachelor’s degree in physics from the University of Chicago.Might her getting tapped have something to do with her expertise in physics and the situation in Iran<<LINK (http://www.economist.com/node/21579960)>>?

As for the allegations that the current administration is politicizing the uppermost echelons of the CIA, I would point out that similar charges of cronyism and corruption surrounded William J. Casey. (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1891&dat=19811206&id=jKgfAAAAIBAJ&sjid=XtYEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6197,756708) (Another example (http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1979&dat=19810725&id=UxwyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=yKoFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4237,3408878).) However, when one takes the time to do some research, one can find that the CIA produced some rather balanced NIEs.

But that was probably different.

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*Klio bless the "new" military history.

Dusty
06-23-2013, 16:46
Entire hilarious post.

LMAO :D

MR2
07-05-2013, 21:51
(couples $30, singles $17)...