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Team Sergeant
10-24-2012, 15:46
Holy shite this is amusing Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) and the Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR) is sending "observers" to the United States to monitor our elections........ Texas has answered in a big way.....I need to move, to Texas.;)
TS

Press release
Press release
Threat of criminal prosecution of observers at odds with established co-operation on United States elections, ODIHR Director says (http://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/96639)



Texas responds to Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE):


October 23, 2012

Ambassador Daan Everts
Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights
Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe
UI. Miodowa 10
00-251
Warsaw, Poland

Dear Ambassador Everts:

The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) will reportedly dispatch election observers to the State of Texas to monitor the November 2012 general election. While it remains unclear exactly what your monitoring is intended to achieve, or precisely what tactics you will use to achieve the proposed monitoring, OSCE has stated publicly that it will visit polling stations on Election Day as part of its monitoring plan.

In April, you reportedly met with a group of organizations that have filed lawsuits challenging election integrity laws enacted by the Texas Legislature. One of those organizations, Project Vote, is closely affiliated with ACORN, which collapsed in disgrace after its role in a widespread voter-registration fraud scheme was uncovered. In September, a federal appeals court rejected Project Vote’s challenge to the State’s voter-registration regulations and allowed Texas to continue enforcing laws that were enacted to protect the integrity of the voter-registration process.

According to a letter that Project Vote and other organizations sent to you, OSCE has identified Voter ID laws as a barrier to the right to vote. That letter urged OSCE to monitor states that have taken steps to protect ballot integrity by enacting Voter ID laws. The OSCE may be entitled to its opinions about Voter ID laws, but your opinion is legally irrelevant in the United States, where the Supreme Court has already determined that Voter ID laws are constitutional.

If OSCE members want to learn more about our election processes so they can improve their own democratic systems, we welcome the opportunity to discuss the measures Texas has implemented to protect the integrity of elections. However, groups and individuals from outside the United States are not allowed to influence or interfere with the election process in Texas. This State has robust election laws that were carefully crafted to protect the integrity of our election system. All persons—including persons connected with OSCE—are required to comply with these laws.

Elections and election observation are regulated by state law. The Texas Election Code governs anyone who participates in Texas elections—including representatives of the OSCE. The OSCE’s representatives are not authorized by Texas law to enter a polling place. It may be a criminal offense for OSCE’s representatives to maintain a presence within 100 feet of a polling place’s entrance. Failure to comply with these requirements could subject the OSCE’s representatives to criminal prosecution for violating state law.
Sincerely,
Greg Abbott
Attorney General of Texas



https://www.oag.state.tx.us/oagnews/release.php?id=4195#.UIf4CFmbsBM.facebook

sinjefe
10-24-2012, 17:19
The don't call it the Holy Land for nothing. Gotta love it.:)

Gypsy
10-24-2012, 19:38
God love the State of Texas, well done.

medic&commo
10-24-2012, 20:04
I moved out of NY, to a gun friendly state (FL), looks like I should've moved to TX.
m&c

Badger52
10-25-2012, 05:25
The OSCE may be entitled to its opinions about Voter ID laws, but your opinion is legally irrelevant in the United States... I like that. I need to rustle up some BBQ.

The letter from the Republic of Texas should be cc'd, Distribution A, to every mailstop at UNHQ, 1st Avenue & E 44th Street, New York, NY 10017. Just to keep members from making unnecessary travel plans - unless, of course, they'd like to be given a tour & history lesson of The Alamo.

Michelle
10-25-2012, 16:00
You would be MOST welcome in Texas Team Sergeant!

Gotta love this State.

m1

Astronomy
10-25-2012, 17:47
Most OSCE dweebs I met downrange were over paid oxygen thieves of mediocre bureaucratic abilities. They tended to organize their existence around attending the next diplomatic party or social event. Fuck 'em.

PSM
10-25-2012, 17:49
Gee, I wonder if they are planing on coming to Arizona? I need a good OC holster. ;)

Pat

CSB
10-25-2012, 20:02
There is already an "Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe" and it has been there since the end of WWII. We call it NATO, and it has done more for Security and Cooperation than anything these "observers" will accomplish.

My query, if anyone knows: Who funds these guys?

Globetrotting to "observe" someone else's election can't be cheap.

abc_123
10-25-2012, 23:14
This letter ust got added to my "favorite things from Texas" list... along with Jess Hall's seasoned salt and my wife (not from Texas but I met her there...).

My hats off to whomever drafted that letter. It sounded much more intelligent than F*@# you which was my first thought when I heard about this.

BTW the Jess Hall's "Chunky" salt is awesome! When I ordered a new 4lb tub, they threw in a bottle for free and it is GREAT.

BKKMAN
10-25-2012, 23:38
There is already an "Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe" and it has been there since the end of WWII. We call it NATO, and it has done more for Security and Cooperation than anything these "observers" will accomplish.

My query, if anyone knows: Who funds these guys?

Globetrotting to "observe" someone else's election can't be cheap.

http://www.osce.org/who

Funding and budget

The OSCE is funded by contributions from its 56 participating States.

On 22 December 2011, the OSCE Permanent Council adopted the Organization's Unified Budget for 2012, totalling EUR 148,055,400 (PC Decision 1028).

Participating States

Albania
Austria
Belgium
Canada
Czech Republic
Finland
Germany
Hungary
Italy
Latvia
Luxembourg
Monaco
Norway
Romania
Serbia
Spain
Tajikistan
Turkmenistan
United States
Andorra
Azerbaijan
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Croatia
Denmark
France
Greece
Iceland
Kazakhstan
Liechtenstein
Malta
Montenegro
Poland
Russian Federation
Slovakia
Sweden
the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
Ukraine
Uzbekistan
Armenia
Belarus
Bulgaria
Cyprus
Estonia
Georgia
Holy See
Ireland
Kyrgyzstan
Lithuania
Moldova
Netherlands
Portugal
San Marino
Slovenia
Switzerland
Turkey
United Kingdom

abc_123
10-26-2012, 01:13
http://www.osce.org/who

Funding and budget

The OSCE is funded by contributions from its 56 participating States....

Ok, so do we give any sort of aid to those countries?

This is wong on so many levls.

Geenie
10-26-2012, 04:45
Apparently there have been observers from OSZE at US elections since 2002 without any issues.

The US enjoys sending observers to other countries as well, no? Have election procedures in the US always been above reproach?

I don't see how having a couple of folks standing around the polling station, taking notes, could negatively impact the election in Texas. Conversely, however, it would lend credibility to the US in the way of showing willingness to be part of the same measures we like to impose on other countries.

Can someone explain this to me?

miclo18d
10-26-2012, 05:42
there are 110 polling locations in my county. There are 3,033 organized county or county-equivalent governments in the United States (as of 2007).

They are looking for voter fraud :rolleyes:

This whole OSCE thing is a joke.

“Our observers are required to remain strictly impartial and not to intervene in the voting process in any way,” Lenarčič said. “They are in the United States to observe these elections, not to interfere in them.”

The United Nations-affiliated Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe will deploy election monitors around the United States on Election Day in an effort to monitor conservative groups for voter suppression or intimidation at polling places.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/21/united-nations-organization-set-to-monitor-us-polling-places-on-election-day/#ixzz2AP87FWrc

Paragrouper
10-26-2012, 06:21
Apparently there have been observers from OSZE at US elections since 2002 without any issues.

The US enjoys sending observers to other countries as well, no? Have election procedures in the US always been above reproach?

I don't see how having a couple of folks standing around the polling station, taking notes, could negatively impact the election in Texas. Conversely, however, it would lend credibility to the US in the way of showing willingness to be part of the same measures we like to impose on other countries.

Can someone explain this to me?

They can observe all they want--100 feet away from the polling station, just like anyone else who wants to 'observe.' Our State, our laws--obey them.

ZonieDiver
10-26-2012, 09:04
Ok, so do we give any sort of aid to those countries?

This is wong on so many levls.

Spain
Tajikistan
Turkmenistan
United States
Andorra
Azerbaijan
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Croatia

I'm pretty sure we're probably paying most of that 150 million Euros already!

And who's this "Wong" guy? :D

Team Sergeant
10-26-2012, 09:19
And it just keeps getting better......If it ever goes to hell in a hand basket I'm headed to Texas.......;)

Texas threatens prosecution against international poll watchers

Published October 26, 2012
FoxNews.com

Texas has a message for international election observers planning to watch over the Lone Star vote Nov. 6: "BRING IT."

Texas officials this week launched a prickly and very public dispute with the Organization for Security and Co-Operation in Europe, which plans to send monitors to polling sites across the U.S. on Election Day. The group has done this since 2002 -- but this year, Texas took exception to what officials perceived as a challenge to the latest wave of voter ID laws.

Attorney General Greg Abbott is now threatening to prosecute any observer who breaks state law by getting too close to any polling site.

"The OSCE may be entitled to its opinions about Voter ID laws, but your opinion is legally irrelevant in the United States," Abbott wrote in a letter this week to the OSCE.

He went on to remind representatives that they are not allowed to enter a polling place, and cautioned against going within 100 feet of the entrance. "Failure to comply with these requirements could subject the OSCE's representatives to criminal prosecution for violating state law," he wrote.

The letter touched off a flurry of testy tweets and correspondence that brought in Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to play ref. Janez Lenarcic, director of the OSCE Office for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights, fired off a letter to Clinton to complain -- which was followed by a letter from Abbott to Clinton reiterating his concerns.

"The threat of criminal sanctions against OSCE/ODIHR observers is unacceptable," Lenarcic said in a statement. "The United States, like all countries in the OSCE, has an obligation to invite ODIHR observers to observe its elections."

The United States is one of dozens of members of the Organization for Security and Co-Operation in Europe.

State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland on Thursday acknowledged Clinton had received letters from both sides and tried to offer assurances.

She said the plan to send observers "isn't any different" than in past years.

"We had, I think, about 15 states that they were going to go to," she said. "To my knowledge, (Texas is) the only state that came forward and said please reassure us that you're going to follow our state electoral law. And they have now been reassured."

On Twitter, Abbott didn't sound reassured.

He tweeted: "UN-related vote monitors warn Texas: Don't mess with us. My response: BRING IT."

Gov. Rick Perry also chimed in, saying "No UN monitors/inspectors will be part of any TX election process."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/texas-threatens-prosecution-against-international-poll-watchers/#ixzz2AQ1CkwAo

mark46th
10-26-2012, 10:17
So the New Black Panthers were really UN observers???

afchic
10-31-2012, 09:03
Looks like Iowa is joining the party, and has even more stringent laws than TX. in TX no one can be within 100 yards of a polling station. In Iowa it is 300 yards.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/31/Iowa-Secretary-of-State-Threatens-Foreign-Election-Monitors-With-Arrest

Dad
10-31-2012, 13:46
Looks like Iowa is joining the party, and has even more stringent laws than TX. in TX no one can be within 100 yards of a polling station. In Iowa it is 300 yards.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/31/Iowa-Secretary-of-State-Threatens-Foreign-Election-Monitors-With-Arrest

it is 100 feet in Texas.

Dad
10-31-2012, 13:48
He is grandstanding--wants to be governor in 2 years. they have been here before and Greggy said nothing

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/10/abbott-other-texas-officials-warn-international-election-observers-not-to-mess-with-texas/