View Full Version : Gov Mitt Romney joins calls for Akin to quit race
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19339362
This may tip the balance on a possible Republican controlled Senate. I wonder how voters will view Gov Romney's request in contrast with the upcoming endorsement on abortion policy at the this year's RNC.
More information (and speculation) on the "human life amendment" can be found here: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/21/gop-platform-committee-approves-tough-anti-abortion-stance/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19339362
This may tip the balance on a possible Republican controlled Senate. I wonder how voters will view Gov Romney's request in contrast with the upcoming endorsement on abortion policy at the this year's RNC.
More information (and speculation) on the "human life amendment" can be found here: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/21/gop-platform-committee-approves-tough-anti-abortion-stance/IMO, the issue is not Akin's position on abortion but rather Akin's position on rape.
IMO, the issue is not Akin's position on abortion but rather Akin's position on rape.
Or maybe the consequences of word use and interpretation.
Or maybe the consequences of word use and interpretation.
Or perhaps he meant what he said. :confused:
I don't know what he 'meant' - but he apparently has a CCW for this type of pistol and has created a sticky 'political fratracide' situation for the GOP to try and deal with now during a campaign season that could do without such detractors.
Richard :munchin
IMO, the issue is not Akin's position on abortion but rather Akin's position on rape.
The DNC will turn that narrative into "he said Akin should quit, but he doesn't want to allow women who have been raped to get an abortion either."
They'll also contrast that with his older pro-choice stance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeQGObiGGqY
I believe that before people have forgotten about Akin, the abortion issue will be shoehorned into the discussion. It's already started in some places.
Or maybe the consequences of word use and interpretation.
Agreed: "back in chains" "corporations are people" "the private sector is doing fine" "mission accomplished" The saga continues.
EDIT: Or perhaps he meant what he said
Also possible.
I believe that before people have forgotten about Akin, the abortion issue will be shoehorned into the discussion. It's already started in some places.If one believes that the debate over abortion is about controlling women, it would be hard not to make the connection.
Team Sergeant
08-21-2012, 17:56
IMO, the issue is not Akin's position on abortion but rather Akin's position on rape.
IMO it's neither, the issue is that Akin is a f***ing idiot and should not be representing the GOP anywhere in the world.
Or perhaps he meant what he said. :confused:
I don't know what he 'meant' - but he apparently has a CCW for this type of pistol and has created a sticky 'political fratracide' situation for the GOP to try and deal with now during a campaign season that could do without such detractors.
Richard :munchin
Exactly. I found it to be a strange choice of words, but I don't know what Akin meant to say.
The media however knows exactly the meaning and motive..
If one believes that the debate over abortion is about controlling women, it would be hard not to make the connection.
It about creating a discussion, then controlling the discussion to sway a group of people in a direction.
It about creating a discussion, then controlling the discussion to sway a group of people in a direction.
Well - in a critical election year and several years worth of opinion polls showing the GOP as being perceived to be out of touch on these very issues, Akin's remarks and recalcitrance towards the party he claims to represent has now created a foofarah of a discussion which makes it appear beyond his and his party's control - and the consequences could be quite damaging to both.
As far as the MSM goes, I watched an interview of him by NBC this morning that was very balanced and let the man explain himself and his positions w/o the editorializing often seen in such interviews.
IMO candidate Akin is not doing himself or his party any favors by keeping this in the 'cross hairs' of the public's focus..."For 'tis the sport to have the enginer hoist with his own petard"
And so it goes...
Richard :munchin
Or maybe the consequences of word use and interpretation.
Did you watch the interview? I did, and it came across loud and clear that a) he has a screw loose and b) he is an idiot.
craigepo
08-22-2012, 07:55
How did this gentleman serve for 12 years as a U.S. congressman, and this issue never get vetted before? I could go grab 500 random people off of any street in the U.S., put them in front of a TV camera, and they would be intelligent enough not to say this crap. "Legitimate rape"? Really? A 6-term U.S. Congressman saying this? This is so dumb it doesn't even deserve a discussion.
There is an interesting political side-note to this story: Akin was in a heated primary against two very good opponents; one was a former state treasurer, the other the guy who started the company that makes Germ-X. About 4 weeks out, Akin is trailing in all of the polls. Then, then incumbent, Sen. Claire McCaskill, starts running an ad (she is unopposed in the democrat primary), stating that Akin is too conservative for Missouri.
The ad states that Akin wants to decrease the size of the federal government, is pro-life, basic conservative red-meat issues. As fate would have it, on election day, Akin wins the damned race. Now, of course, McCaskill is happy as a clam that she is running against the opponent of her choice, and the GOP is trying to figure out how to get rid of this clown.
There is only one reason the biased media would give any politician a fair interview...
1stindoor
08-22-2012, 09:21
There is only one reason the biased media would give any politician a fair interview...
Agreed. He was given enough rope...now everyone's just watching out of morbid curiosity to see the stretch factor.
Akin committed Bidenism. The repercussions are different...
It about creating a discussion, then controlling the discussion to sway a group of people in a direction.If you want to participate in a discussion about "legitimate rape," you can contact Akin here (http://www.akin.org/contact).:rolleyes:
Akin committed Bidenism. The repercussions are different...
Yeah the GOP has standards, the Dems, not so much.
Yeah the GOP has standards, the Dems, not so much.
What are you basing that off of?
Sometimes it's not a party issue, but and individual idiot issue. I don't understand how almost everything anyone does becomes an "our team vs their team" war of words.
I can't remember a single democrat that has made a rape&science gaff of this magnitude, but that doesn't mean I'm going to run around saying "Republicans hate women, and science."
And no, I'm not a Democrat or Republican.
What are you basing that off of?.
(Dem) Senator Famous for Joking About Rape Campaigns for Obama, Biden (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/senator-famous-joking-about-rape-campaigns-obama-biden_650609.html)
Earlier this week, Senator Al Franken of Minnesota joined Vice President Joe Biden for a campaign event in Minnesota.
"Biden got plenty of support from Minnesota Democrats," PostBulletin.com reports. "Sen. Al Franken praised Obama for pushing the health care law, saying it will help more seniors get help paying for prescriptions and will ensure Medicare's solvency for an additional eight years."
But before Franken was a senator he was a writer on the TV show Saturday Night Live. Then, he famously joked about raping CBS reporter Lesley Stahl.
As New York magazine reported in 1995, from a writing session that the reporter sat in on:
Franken: “And, ‘I give the pills to Lesley Stahl. Then, when Lesley’s passed out, I take her to the closet and rape her.’ Or, ‘That’s why you never see Lesley until February.’ Or, ‘When she passes out, I put her in various positions and take pictures of her.’”
With the national conversation now turning to women's issues as a result of the bizarre and offensive comments by Missouri Senate candidate Todd Akin over the weekend, it seems a bit odd that Vice President Biden would take the stage with Franken, considering his own lack of sensitivity to the horrors of rape.
(Dem) Senator Famous for Joking About Rape Campaigns for Obama, Biden (http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/senator-famous-joking-about-rape-campaigns-obama-biden_650609.html)
With the national conversation now turning to women's issues as a result of the bizarre and offensive comments by Missouri Senate candidate Todd Akin over the weekend, it seems a bit odd that Vice President Biden would take the stage with Franken, considering his own lack of sensitivity to the horrors of rape.
Without getting into the can comedians tell rape jokes discussion, what a sitting Congressional Representative says is much more important to me than which jokes a comedian chooses to tell.
I guess I should quantify my earlier statement with, I've never heard anything like what Rep. Akin's rape & science comments uttered by a politician at his level or above from anyone in the Democratic party.
If I do, I will judge that person by the same individual standard that I have for their position. An idiot is an idiot, no matter what party they're from.
Without getting into the can comedians tell rape jokes discussion, what a sitting Congressional Representative says is much more important to me than which jokes a comedian chooses to tell.
I guess I should quantify my earlier statement with, I've never heard anything like what Rep. Akin's rape & science comments uttered by a politician at his level or above from anyone in the Democratic party.
If I do, I will judge that person by the same individual standard that I have for their position. An idiot is an idiot, no matter what party they're from.
How do you guys get the acid inside the eggs, anyway? :D