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Team Sergeant
07-02-2012, 11:04
Katie Burford, there's a bridge in NYC I'd like to sell and I was wondering if you and your newspaper would help me advertise it? :munchin
Not confirmed but 99.9% sure. The paperwork has already started.;)
Team Sergeant

‘What I’m fighting to make free’
By Katie Burford
Article Last Updated: Monday, July 02, 2012 6:49am

Timothy Oliver, who served three tours in Afghanistan, says handling a toy replica of the 9mm he carried while in the service helps calm him.

Editors’ note: Questions have been raised about the accuracy of this account. The Herald is seeking to verify them.

Timothy Oliver, a Georgia boy by birth, spent years with the Special Forces in Afghanistan hunting bad guys in hideouts in the night.Sometimes he found them.

Now, he spends his nights sleepless in a dimly lit mobile home park in Hermosa. Gaunt, with dark circles under his eyes and a limp, he smokes Marlboro reds and handles a toy gun that is a replica of the 9 mm he used to carry in Afghanistan.
He says he sees the faces of the men he hunted, the villagers he found massacred and mutilated by jihadists and the friends he lost. He takes large quantities of Valium but does not sleep.

Still, he says he would not take back the five years, three months and 34 days he spent in the military.
It started in 1998, when he enlisted and started studying at the Georgia Military Institute, training when he wasn’t in school.
He finished a four-year degree in three years before the United States struck Afghanistan in October 2001.

A member of the unit commonly known as Delta Force, he said he hit the ground in Kandahar after a high-altitude jump with thousands of other specialized troops from different branches of service.

He recalls three days of intense “house-to-house urban warfare.”

“It was a lot of chaos and a lot of fear,” he said.

When the fighting ended and Marines arrived, he felt hopeful that a quick end to the war was possible. But he said commanders opted to fortify their position rather than advance, missing what he feels was a key opportunity to hobble the enemy early.

When Oliver was seriously injured Dec. 4, 2004, he was on his third tour in Afghanistan. He had suffered two minor injuries earlier: one from a ricochet that hit his leg and another from a bayonet that sliced his lip. The man with the bayonet he encountered early in his first tour. Believing the enemy compound they infiltrated was empty, he let his guard down. But the man appeared suddenly from behind a door and jabbed him in the face.

“He didn’t come out on top of that one,” he said.

That first brush with death taught him to be more cautious.

“I never failed to clear a room again,” he said.

But when the injury that would end his military career came, there was little he could do to avoid it.

While traveling over land through a tight valley, the unmanned aerial vehicle used to see what was ahead of them spotted an ambush lying in wait. Oliver, the leader of his four-man team, said their training in such a situation was to exit vehicles and take cover along a valley wall. He was about 10 feet from their Humvee when it was struck by a rocket-propelled grenade.

A fellow team member, who instead of leaving the Humvee had gone for its mounted machine gun, was killed instantly.
The explosion threw Oliver against the canyon wall, sprayed him with shrapnel and broke his leg in three places.
Another team member was killed in a second explosion.

“We were being attacked from the front and the rear,” he said.
He saw another team member, who was trying to reload his weapon with one hand because the other one had been blown off, be overrun.
At that point, he said he did what he had been trained never to do because of the possibility of hitting an unintended target: switched his machine gun to “full auto” and sprayed.

“They were so close, I did it,” he said.
Soon, air support responded to their distress call and he was airlifted to the USS Abraham Lincoln for emergency medical treatment.
The awful reality of his situation soon became apparent.

“I didn’t get any of my men out, but I got out,” he said.
This knowledge was to become more crippling than his injuries. Of the three teams – 12 men in all – that were ambushed, he said, four were killed and six were seriously wounded.
Furthermore, the female pilot assigned to provide air support for his team – a woman he was close to but was back at base at the time of the attack – died soon after.
After being medically discharged, he eventually moved to Southwest Colorado to be with a woman, Phebe Durand, whom he met in an Internet chat room. They’re now married.

He’s tried working. In 2009, he said he was the night-shift manager at Wendy’s, but a violent confrontation with two employees triggered hallucinations that resulted in his being admitted for acute psychiatric care at the Crossroads Center near Mercy Regional Medical Center.
Now, Oliver mostly stays home, sometimes listening to his unit’s theme song, “A Demon’s Fate” by the Dutch metal band Within Temptation, on YouTube.

Sometimes he reads “The Picture,” a poem he wrote:

Another long day, in this dry and desolate land
Sun’s coming up so I take into my hand
a worn and battered photograph that I want to see
to remind myself again what I’m fighting to make free

The poem goes on to describe that the picture is of his loved ones, The people I care about the most; and if I die today to protect them then I’ll happily join the ghosts.
At night, it’s as if he already has.

Editors’ note: Questions have been raised about the accuracy of this account. The Herald is seeking to verify them.



http://www.durangoherald.com/article/20120701/NEWS01/707019885/'What-I'm-fighting-to-make-free

greenberetTFS
07-02-2012, 11:28
Katie Burford, there's a bridge in NYC I'd like to sell and I was wondering if you and your newspaper would help me advertise it? :munchin

Not confirmed but 99.9% sure. The paperwork has already started. ;)

Team Sergeant

Big Teddy :munchin

DIYPatriot
07-02-2012, 13:22
Katie Burford, there's a bridge in NYC I'd like to sell and I was wondering if you and your newspaper would help me advertise it? :munchin
Not confirmed but 99.9% sure. The paperwork has already started.;)
Team Sergeant


If that bridge deal falls through, maybe you could spend a little time screenwriting a new movie called Act of Stolen Valor. The content is all there and there's so many of these "characters" that you'll have endless stories to tell. After seeing his pic in that article, I'm thinking Johnny Depp could play Mr. Oliver.

Geenie
07-02-2012, 13:28
My favorite part of the story is where thousands of D-force troopers parachute into Kandahar. Hadn't heard that one before :D

:munchin

greenberetTFS
07-02-2012, 13:43
My favorite part of the story is where thousands of D-force troopers parachute into Kandahar. Hadn't heard that one before....

You hadn't!!!!!!.......:eek: Hell,I was one of them........:rolleyes: You want to see my Delta Force tatoo?..........:p But seriously,I don't see much difference between this "nutter" and the other one we didn't bother with because Top knew he was crazy!!!.......:(

Big Teddy

Dozer523
07-02-2012, 13:51
From AKO
There is a retired SSG Timothy Oliver
Organization: 1st BDE 87th (TS) Div,
Army Retired and / but living in Birmingham, AL

He is the closest one to a guy in this story who deserved to be medically retired. Doesn't look good.

blue02hd
07-02-2012, 14:01
How embarrassing for the newspaper. The editor. The author.

Sad, just sad.

greenberetTFS
07-02-2012, 14:20
From AKO
There is a retired SSG Timothy Oliver
Organization: 1st BDE 87th (TS) Div,
Army Retired and / but living in Birmingham, AL

He is the closest one to a guy in this story who deserved to be medically retired. Doesn't look good.

Durango,Colorado is quite a distance to Birmingham,AL if that's were your going on this.........:eek: The guy you mentioned isn't SF either.........:( The guy in Top's post is a poser,only he may not know it!!!!............:rolleyes:

Big Teddy :munchin

Richard
07-02-2012, 14:24
Editors’ note: Questions have been raised about the accuracy of this account. The Herald is seeking to verify them.

Tic...toc...tic... :D

Richard :munchin

Sigaba
07-02-2012, 14:26
Editors’ note: Questions have been raised about the accuracy of this account. The Herald is seeking to verify them.MOO, this statement is spin. The issue is not just "this account" (which puts the onus on Mr. Oliver). The issue is also about the process by which "this account" was NOT vetted in the first place.

Team Sergeant
07-02-2012, 14:32
Confirmed liar and fraud. We're working to get his real name we don't think he gave his real name to the reporter.

He told the reporter he didn't have any documents to support his claims and the lying little punk said he was in Special Ops and it's all classifed (reported on This Ain't hell, http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=30601

That doesn't cut it you lying little fraud with a plastic pop-gun. You now get to live forever with that story associated with your face and name.

Dusty
07-02-2012, 15:58
Eyes are circles, black and gaunt
Beretta made of plastic
Dreams of Delta night jumps haunt
Valium makes me spastic

No cheapass Basics do I puff
It's Cowboy Smokes for me
CQB is sometimes tough
Oh me! Oh my! Whoowee!

They stab you in your faces
If you fail to clear the room
Break your legs in many places
When the RPG goes boom

When they get too close, don't react
The way that you were taught, no
Flick machinegun lever back
And spray the pricks-full auto

Doesn't matter where I go
SpecOps nightmares haunt
Even when my next gig-yo
Was Wendy's restaurant

:boohoo

greenberetTFS
07-02-2012, 16:29
Eyes are circles, black and gaunt
Beretta made of plastic
Dreams of Delta night jumps haunt
Valium makes me spastic

No cheapass Basics do I puff
It's Cowboy Smokes for me
CQB is sometimes tough
Oh me! Oh my! Whoowee!

They stab you in your faces
If you fail to clear the room
Break your legs in many places
When the RPG goes boom

When they get too close, don't react
The way that you were taught, no
Flick machinegun lever back
And spray the pricks-full auto

Doesn't matter where I go
SpecOps nightmares haunt
Even when my next gig-yo
Was Wendy's restaurant

:boohoo

Dusty,A poet!..............:confused:.............:confuse d:

Big Teddy :munchin

The Reaper
07-02-2012, 17:40
On top of all of the obvious BS....

Why on earth would someone fly out of a landlocked country with full-up military hospitals and surgical suites to a ship?

By then, you could be at a hospital in Germany.

And wouldn't five years, three months and 34 days actually be five years FOUR months and FOUR days?

Why do chicks always seem to fall for these stories? I guess it is a better tale than getting back to the office and saying, well, I met a loser today who told me a huge bunch of lies....

TR

CW3SF
07-02-2012, 18:21
Another douchebag liar...…:rolleyes:

Dusty
07-02-2012, 18:21
Dusty,A poet!..............:confused:.............:confuse d:

Big Teddy :munchin

Think of me as a double rainbow, my friend.

Richard
07-02-2012, 18:27
Notice the absence of any mention of culpability on the reporter's part in not providing any sort of due diligence to ensure the original story she posted was accurate to begin with here. :rolleyes:

Richard :munchin

Stolen valor?
DurangoHerald, 2 July 2012

A story that appeared on Page 4A of the Herald on Sunday contained a detailed account by Timothy Oliver of his time serving in Afghanistan. Since the story ran, numerous questions have been raised about accuracy of this account.

Specifically, knowledgeable readers found reason to doubt his service in the Army’s elite Delta Force.

Oliver, when reached by phone, said he could not provide any documentation to support his account or show that he had served in the military.

“You can run a retraction with my apologies if somebody was offended,” he said.

He maintained that he had served but said any evidence of it would be classified.

“I was trying to help people out, but I can’t prove this one,” he said.

Jonn Lilyea, a retired infantry platoon sergeant, spends much of his time looking for people who provide inaccurate accounts of their military service and exposing them on his blog http://thisainthell.us/blog.

Lilyea was among more than a dozen people, many retired military, who emailed the Herald raising concerns about Oliver’s account.

Lilyea said he dedicated himself to ferreting out fakes because they are more common than many people would believe.

“With the Stolen Valor Act struck down by the Supreme Court, that leaves private citizens to protect the honor of soldiers,” he wrote in an email. “I like to think of This Ain’t Hell as the stocks and dunking chairs of the veteran internet community where we can expose the frauds and folks can come by and throw metaphorical rotten tomatoes at them.”

The Stolen Valor Act, introduced by former Colorado congressman John Salazar, made it illegal to lie about receiving the Medal of Honor and other prestigious military recognitions.

The law was struck down recently by the U.S. Supreme Court, which pointed to the First Amendment right to freedom of speech.

Oliver did not claim to be the recipient of a medal.

Lilyea said the media should do a better job of policing accounts of military service. This includes asking vets to show their bona fides, such as a DD Form 214, which details service history and is issued to every member upon discharge.

Oliver, when asked for a copy of his DD Form 214, said he did not have one.

Lilyea said there is nothing offensive about asking for proof.

“I don’t mind showing my discharge – I’m proud of my service – and I’m sure most real veterans don’t mind. Only the phonies would object,” he said.

When asked to provide a copy to the Herald, he quickly sent the one-page document by email.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20120702/NEWS01/707029905/Stolen-valor

head
07-02-2012, 18:33
Hahaha... I imagine this is the exact look every poser has when they make our hall of shame.

tom kelly
07-02-2012, 19:18
Everything is "CLASSIFIED" that's the 1st clue.
No verification by the reporter, the editor or anyone at the newspaper?
Don't believe anything you read in "THE HERALD"
Regard's, TK

greenberetTFS
07-03-2012, 07:34
One way to get back at him........:cool:

Big Teddy :munchin

csquare
07-03-2012, 07:41
I believe Mr Oliver has played way to much PS3 and sniffed more model glue than he can remember. What a POS......

RB
07-03-2012, 08:05
Hahaha... I imagine this is the exact look every poser has when they make our hall of shame.

funny this!!

here's an on the mark movie reference: "True Lies" (those two could be trailer park twins) - (pardon the Arnie pun)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDLf4nrmBbg&feature=related


:munchin