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04-19-2012, 13:35
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/10/07/why-does-america-have-so-many-peter-pan-men/
Ok ladies here is one for you!!!
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Society has set up the typical American male as a snivelling milquetoast with Mitty disease. Feminists have had a lot to do with forming that stereotype.
Doesn't mean you gotta act like one, yourself. And not all women are feminists.
A woman is like a gun. Fun, but dangerous.
I can't remember where I heard this statistic, but a recent study has shown that men today have on average 20% less testosterone than men did 20 years ago.
Not the source of the above statistic but along the same lines...
http://naturalsociety.com/masculinity-of-men-on-the-decline/
mark46th
04-19-2012, 15:29
Google "The Pussification of the American Male"... Lots of ideas on the subject.
Buffalobob
04-19-2012, 15:43
In 1859 Charles Darwin proposed the law of natural selection. In the mid 1960's seat belts were introduced which tended to defeat that law and then the all volunteer army worked in direct counter balance to that law. While most of my beliefs are fairly liberal, I am not blind to the fact we are not removing poor quality genes through starvation and disease.
Think about it. Modern medicine has taken away all of the great plagues and FDA and CDC are beat up in the news every time someone gets diarrhea. OSHA and other workplace regulations have cut down on people sawing their own head off with a chainsaw. We haven't had a great Chicago fire in a long time.
In 1859 Charles Darwin proposed the law of natural selection. In the mid 1960's seat belts were introduced which tended to defeat that law and then the all volunteer army worked in direct counter balance to that law. While most of my beliefs are fairly liberal, I am not blind to the fact we are not removing poor quality genes through starvation and disease.
Think about it. Modern medicine has taken away all of the great plagues and FDA and CDC are beat up in the news every time someone gets diarrhea. OSHA and other workplace regulations have cut down on people sawing their own head off with a chainsaw. We haven't had a great Chicago fire in a long time.
Yep. Wait 'til there's no oil.
I for one have never subcribed to the typical definition of "feminism".
I grew up with a brother 1 year older than me, therefore if I wanted to play I learned to play with him and his friends. Tackle football, gorilla basketball, etc. I still remember being about 9 when we moved into a new neighborhood and I wanted to play football with the new boys for the first time. They all treated me with kid gloves until my brother told them I could take care of myself, so just play ball. The first time I knocked one of them on their ass we didn't have that discussion again. It remained the same way until we graduated from college (my poor brother had to go to college with 2 of his little sisters). So in that respect, I learned from an early age, and due mostly to my dad, that I could take care of myself and play with the boys while not becoming one of them.
While I am in uniform I do not want to be treated as a "female" officer. I just want to be seen as an officer. Hence why I don't wear my blues unless I have to.
But my father also brought me up to be a lady. If a man holds the door for me, I appreciate it. BAck in the day, If one offered to take me out for dinner, I accepted the offer. I like dressing up in a dress and heels, wearing makeup, and having my hair done, an know that the males around me appreciate seeing a woman looking like a woman, and accepting a compliment as it is given, instead of seeing it as sexual harassment.
Maybe because of all this, that is why I married a man 17 years my senior. He respects me for the job I do, and appreciates me for being his wife, and allowing him to wear the pants in the family, so to speak;). Alot of the guys I dated before him wanted me to be their mommy. Thank you, but no.
I for one have never subcribed to the typical definition of "feminism".
No feminist would fly your avatar. :D
Society has set up the typical American male as a snivelling milquetoast with Mitty disease.
I look at school. When I was in grade school boys we rough and tumble, we played mean games like dodge ball with the sole intent of getting a head shot, tackle football was allowed at recess, we had fist fights on the play ground, we were allowed pockets knives on school grounds, we all watched Combat and Rat Patrol and drew warfare cartoons at art depicting amputation, blood and core in art class....if you didn't tow that line you were considered a Mommas Boy and alienated. If you took it too far, you went to the Principles office for a visit with the Board of Education.....and if you didn't head the advice of the Board of education you got expelled.
With exception to art and what violence we watched on TV nothing much change in Middle School through High School. In fact, in High School it was quite common to see rifles and shotguns in students pickups....and that was a city school.
And throughout those 13 violent filled years of public education....no one got shot or stabbed..... and with exception to the Middle School I was integrated into, very rarely were teachers ever talked back to and none were ever threatened.
Now days it is the counter opposite.
I look at school. When I was in grade school boys we rough and tumble, we played mean games like dodge ball with the sole intent of getting a head shot, tackle football was allowed at recess, we had fist fights on the play ground, we were allowed pockets knives on school grounds, we all watched Combat and Rat Patrol and drew warfare cartoons at art depicting amputation, blood and core in art class....if you didn't tow that line you were considered a Mommas Boy and alienated. If you took it too far, you went to the Principles office for a visit with the Board of Education.....and if you didn't head the advice of the Board of education you got expelled.
With exception to art and what violence we watched on TV nothing much change in Middle School through High School. In fact, in High School it was quite common to see rifles and shotguns in students pickups....and that was a city school.
And throughout those 13 violent filled years of public education....no one got shot or stabbed..... and with exception to the Middle School I was integrated into, very rarely were teachers ever talked back to and none were ever threatened.
Now days it is the counter opposite.
Our freedoms are eroding faster and faster. This "level playing field" bullshit is rotting our collective core.
Entire post.Sounds like Ms. Nance hit a nerve somewhere.:p
Our freedoms are eroding faster and faster. This "level playing field" bullshit is rotting our collective core.
I believe you can chalk some of the problem to homes were the home is devoid of a father i.e. a masculine influence.
For example I will use my son and myself.
If I hadn't had a Dad that was into fishing, hunting, guns and knives...Mom would have never let me close to a gun and I probably wouldn't have been carrying a pocket knife. My son wouldn't have been allowed to have either had I not been around. And just like me and all my cousins he cut himself with his first pocket knife within the first week....he hasn't done it since. I've taught him firearm safety just like my dad taught me.
Mention firearms and killing game around my hood in public and there's a good chance you'll get some odd looks.....were are Hamburgers made? McDonalds of course. Eggs come from Hen House.
The one thing I am not allowed to do (to keep in good graces with the School Gods) is to encourage my son or his sister to kick the shit out of anyone that hits them.....they are just supposed to put up with and tell the teacher....and that is acceptable to my kids peers and most parents. You might even get in trouble by even mentioning the possibility of hitting back.
Whereas, my buddies would have called me a pussy for tattling to the teacher, and it wouldn't have sit well with my Dad either....Mom would have said I did the right thing. Dad would have said, You need to stand up for yourself son, you can't rely on others to do it for you.
These days if kids were having a dirt clod fight someone would dial 911.
Despite having a clotting time of 30 minutes plus, Dad encourage me to be a boy, learn the lessons associated with the experiences. Mom generally conceded and prayed it all went well.....She could have turned me into a Mommas Boy if Dad hadn't been around.
Another facet is getting sweaty and dirty....
Everyone in my family worked and got their hands filthy. Dirt, Grime and sweat is what payed the bills and did you proud. You walked in the house with your shoes on or through the back door if you were muddy. Playing in the mud and rain, stamping puddles were all encouraged by both my parents.
Now days, there is an increasing aversion to dirt...most people stay indoors when it rains....most folks seem to want to stay clean, dry and seemingly safe from something.....and if you don't use some antibacterial soap before every meal and after every time you touch something, then you're the odd person out.
And now when it sprinkles it time to come in and play inside......rain never stopped us from playing outside, in fact it made it more fun!
The one thing I am not allowed to do (to keep in good graces with the School Gods) is to encourage my son or his sister to kick the shit out of anyone that hits them.....they are just supposed to put up with and tell the teacher....and that is acceptable to my kids peers and most parents. You might even get in trouble by even mentioning the possibility of hitting back.
Your point as well as a major symptom of decay in our society illustrated here:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/19/colorado-boy-says-was-suspended-for-standing-up-to-bully-who-was-attacking-him/?test=latestnews
A 9-year-old Colorado boy claims he was suspended from his elementary school after fighting back against a bully who was beating him.
Nathan Pemberton, a third-grader at West Elementary School in Colorado Springs, was suspended Tuesday following a physical altercation with another student, Fox affiliate KDVR-TV reported.
"One kid kicked me in the back, then punched me in the face. Then I punched him in the face and then I got in trouble," the boy told the station.
The boys parents said their son has repeatedly complained of being bullied at school.
"Finally, yeah, we told him, if you have to, if there’s nobody else around, you do what you have to do," said his mother, Deborah Pemberton.
"The school had told us and told him as well, just walk away. Walk away, find a teacher," Pemberton said. "Well, when those things happened, and he did find a teacher, there was hardly any repercussions."
A school released a statement to the station saying that the district has a "no tolerance student discipline policy."
"If a student is involved in a physical altercation on school property, they are automatically suspended," the statement said. "District 11 schools employ many anti-bullying teaching techniques … and none of these methods include violence or retaliation."
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"Zero tolerance" usually translates into zero thinking/judgement.
Your point as well as a major symptom of decay in our society illustrated here:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/19/colorado-boy-says-was-suspended-for-standing-up-to-bully-who-was-attacking-him/?test=latestnews
A 9-year-old Colorado boy claims he was suspended from his elementary school after fighting back against a bully who was beating him.
Nathan Pemberton, a third-grader at West Elementary School in Colorado Springs, was suspended Tuesday following a physical altercation with another student, Fox affiliate KDVR-TV reported.
"One kid kicked me in the back, then punched me in the face. Then I punched him in the face and then I got in trouble," the boy told the station.
The boys parents said their son has repeatedly complained of being bullied at school.
"Finally, yeah, we told him, if you have to, if there’s nobody else around, you do what you have to do," said his mother, Deborah Pemberton.
"The school had told us and told him as well, just walk away. Walk away, find a teacher," Pemberton said. "Well, when those things happened, and he did find a teacher, there was hardly any repercussions."
A school released a statement to the station saying that the district has a "no tolerance student discipline policy."
"If a student is involved in a physical altercation on school property, they are automatically suspended," the statement said. "District 11 schools employ many anti-bullying teaching techniques … and none of these methods include violence or retaliation."
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Like gun control policies....these policies do more harm than good, and likely encourage bullying.
The boy should be patted on the back for standing his ground.
Its' just that some of us have already been taken. I read the article twice and all that I can conclude is that some people regardless of gender are not going to find what they are looking for in a mate. There is probably not a generation of women in the last 100 years who have not asked that question. I guess at this point in my life no one is going to convince me there is not someone out there for everyone, and that a person does not just have to settle.
This topic deserves its own thread, I was bullied mercilessly when I switched schools in the 8th grade, it finally ended when I had had enough and I beat the shit out of this guy in the bleachers at a wrestling meet. No kid should have to take crap off another. In the same vein what about the 6 yr old hauled out of school in handcuffs, absolutely no fear of authority and now her mommy is upset at how her little darling was treated, btw this was a lttle girl, there are issues in this country. I'm just glad that I am back side of it all now.
Feminism is only part of it. I think a big part of why men are softer these days is the shift from rural living to urban living. In 1950 the rural population was 40% and urban was 60%. Today it's 20% rural and 80% urban. (Source) (http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/urbanruralclass.html)
Urban man is more worried about getting his suit from the cleaners and making the commute to his air-conditioned office. He gets fit in a gym, not by working hard.
I do think television and movies have done a big disservice to men. There's hardly a male role that isn't the butt of jokes, the weakling, the idiot. The female roles are strong and smart (okay, there's dumb and sexy too). The child roles are there to show just how stupid "dad" is and how clever the kid is. (The exception was television like Cosby, who was a strong male father figure and black to boot.)
I'm familiar with the water-cooler women's talk about the lack of great men. I didn't find a good one until I was 32. Where the hell are you guys? :)
Paslode, sir, I appreciate your post about having a strong male in the family. Absolutely! There are too many homes without real men in them. Boys learn to be men by example.
Susan
"Zero tolerance" usually translates into zero thinking/judgement.
It is a form of denial. There is no need to work things out, solve or address root causes of problems, or make any progress in understanding and figurimg out what should logically be the next step. There is no need to understand and tackle problems or issues that are just lumped into an ever growing umbrella category of zero tolerance.
Laziness, and on top of that, there just isn't enough time in an eight hour day to solve all of societies plaguing issues, or to wrap things up neat, tidy and fair like they do at the end of a one hour television program.
As for video games, there are quite a few women (and girls) out there that play video games. The game makers would be fools to limit their profits to only one segment of the population. A Nintendo DS is marketed to boys and girls.
Additionally there is a growing segment of grandmas and grandpas stepping up and playing videogames as an activity to share with their grandchildren and thereby spending time doing things their grandchildren enjoy.
Feminism is only part of it. I think a big part of why men are softer these days is the shift from rural living to urban living. In 1950 the rural population was 40% and urban was 60%. Today it's 20% rural and 80% urban. (Source) (http://www.census.gov/geo/www/ua/urbanruralclass.html)
Urban man is more worried about getting his suit from the cleaners and making the commute to his air-conditioned office. He gets fit in a gym, not by working hard.
I do think television and movies have done a big disservice to men. There's hardly a male role that isn't the butt of jokes, the weakling, the idiot. The female roles are strong and smart (okay, there's dumb and sexy too). The child roles are there to show just how stupid "dad" is and how clever the kid is. (The exception was television like Cosby, who was a strong male father figure and black to boot.)
I'm familiar with the water-cooler women's talk about the lack of great men. I didn't find a good one until I was 32. Where the hell are you guys? :)
Paslode, sir, I appreciate your post about having a strong male in the family. Absolutely! There are too many homes without real men in them. Boys learn to be men by example.
Susan
Mom was no slouch.....she just had her own priorities for setting examples.
At age 12 she put my summer dreams of hanging out at the pool and sucking face with the honey's to a to a quick end.....8 hours a day, 5 days a week of picking up tenants trash, shitty diapers out of window wells, rocks, pulling weeds, watering shrubs, mowing and all the other crap no one wanted to do...and I had to be on site by 7:30AM to set an example that family didn't mean you got any slack.
That said, based on how those of us who were required to participate in the family business versus those who weren't required to participate....those of us who did are doing fine, those that didn't not so well.
I think that might fit into the urban versus rural class.
Somethings I hear quite often during my daily grind with customers, the majority of which are women who are either self-sufficient or have married into a comfortable lifestyle.
You're like my Dad
My Dad was a carpenter, plumber, farmer, etc.
My Dad did things like that.
I wish my husband/boyfriend could do that.
My husband/boyfriend doesn't know the working end of a screw driver.
My husband/boyfriend is good at making money but he can barely put a light bulb in.
Some of them are actually kind of annoyed their better half is mechanically inept.
My take......if you can provide financial security along with a big house, fancy dinners, vacations and new cars, and you can accomplish this getting dirty with a touch of savagery and you know proper etiquette.....You maybe the perfect man.
GratefulCitizen
04-19-2012, 22:14
So young single women are wondering "where are all the men?"
They are responding to the signals they're sent.
If a women communicates that she doesn't need him, can take care of herself, and has no interest in an interdependent relationship with complimentary roles, the "men" will take them at their word.
Then, these "men" will go find a woman who communicates that she actually does need him.
All that will be left is overgrown adolescents looking for a wife/mommy.
A woman who doesn't "need" him would be a real catch for such a man-child.
My take......if you can provide financial security along with a big house, fancy dinners, vacations and new cars, and you can accomplish this getting dirty with a touch of savagery and you know proper etiquette.....You maybe the perfect man.
Gosh. You should write romance novels. That's exactly what the lusty heroines are looking for. (You forgot that he also has to be Highly Skilled in the bedroom.) :D
Kudos to your mother for raising you to be responsible, honorable and hardworking. Those qualities go along way with women. It's what we want, with kindness, a little adventure and... adoration. :cool:
You hit on something - some girls DO look for a guy who is like their daddy. Especially if daddy was their hero. It's hard to find a guy who lives up to that hero status. (Same could be said for men looking for someone that lives up to mom's standards.) But there we are - back to square one: where are all the real guys these days?
Susan
GratefulCitizen
04-19-2012, 22:54
Gosh. You should write romance novels. That's exactly what the lusty heroines are looking for. (You forgot that he also has to be Highly Skilled in the bedroom.) :D
Kudos to your mother for raising you to be responsible, honorable and hardworking. Those qualities go along way with women. It's what we want, with kindness, a little adventure and... adoration. :cool:
Could've swore that I overheard women saying something about a sharp wit and a quick tongue.
If a women communicates that she doesn't need him, can take care of herself, and has no interest in an interdependent relationship with complimentary roles, the "men" will take them at their word. Then, these "men" will go find a woman who communicates that she actually does need him.
True. You're describing a dyed-in-the-wool feminist. Feminists don't need anyone and a smart guy would set off to find another woman.
But there are women who aren't feminists who earn a good living and can take care of themselves who want to share that with a man who is her equal or better.
For instance: I've got a 30 y/o beautiful, red-headed, long-legged cousin who put herself though college, earned two degrees, delivered babies in Chad as a rookie nurse and is now a nurse-anesthetist. She paid off her $70k school loan in 2 years. She rides dirt bikes, shoots guns, climbs mountains and skis down them. She writes and takes photographs. She wake-boards, water skis barefoot, kayaks down rapids, has her ham radio license, rides horses, was a gymnast, travels the world, is sweet, smart and comes from a close-knit family. She has a hell of time finding a man who can keep up with her. She's not going to settle for a momma's boy. The guy who wins her heart won't just walk away because he thinks she doesn't need him because the irony is she doesn't need him for his money, or even his sense of adventure. She'll need him because he brings something else to the deal. A real man will figure out what that is and stick around to make sure she knows what it is too. :)
A woman who doesn't "need" him would be a real catch for such a man-child.
Indeed. Most of us huddled around the water cooler are wary of those guys.
Susan
Could've swore that I overheard women saying something about a sharp wit and a quick tongue.
:D
PPSD - Peter Pan Stress Disorder. Swell.
Real men don't fret over such lifestyle choices - they just live life. Just sayin'...
And so it goes...
Richard :munchin
PPSD - Peter Pan Stress Disorder. Swell.
Real men don't fret over such lifestyle choices - they just live life. Just sayin'...
And so it goes...
Richard :munchin
A trait which is obviously being bred or trained away by lib educators and parents.
Oldrotorhead
04-20-2012, 07:33
There may be some hope. As they watch the economy and large parts of the world deteriate both of my son-in laws( in their late 30s) have asked me to teach them to shoot. One requested a pistol for Christmas and the other wants to buy a shotgun. I can teach them safety and basic skills so I now have two students. Only one of the two has even shot a bb gun . Both are increasingly aware that they need to be more self sufficient.
Now if they will just let us take a 10 year old grandson to Europe without either parent we will have made real progress.
My mother in law gets angry when I tell her that Im going to have my daughter under cars, in the woods, shooting, riding motorcycles, and learning to drive a manual transmission. Not sure why but I think its a skill set she definatley needs. As well as cooking and the other skills females are typically taught.
If I'm lucky my little girl will be a Marine Infantry officer.
:D
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/20/activists-outraged-by-lego-line-for-girls-to-meet-with-company-executives/
A feminist group has identified the enemy, and it is ... LEGOs?
The Danish company behind the interlocking plastic building blocks loved by children since 1949 has a meeting set for Friday with a Brooklyn group ticked off with LEGOs product line designed to appeal to girls.
The new “LEGO Friends” rolled out in December featuring LadyFigs, curvier takeoffs on the traditional boxy LEGO men. Construction sets include a hot tub, a splash pool, a beauty parlor, an outdoor bakery and a “cool convertible," as well as an inventor's workshop.
But the SPARK Movement objects to the "LadyFigs," the female version of the little figures who man the spaceships, trucks and forts children create. "Ladyfigs" are somewhat anatomically correct, which hypersexualizes girls, according to the group.
"They have little breasts and they have fancy hair," the organization's executive director, Dana Edell, told FoxNews.com. "And it just disturbs us that this is the image that they want girls to see."
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Looks like the ManFigs are going to enjoy their company :D :
Meh, my daughter is as girly as they come, and she enjoys building her "LEGO Friends", she also knows the right end of a screwdriver and how to fix her $3 Claire's necklaces with a pair of needlenose pliers. :lifter
Paslode, you raise a very good point about "getting dirty". IIRC, a brand name laundry detergent ran a commercial series some years back called "Get dirty America".
I had a similar upbringing, both of my parents are working professionals, and were usually pretty open with me about the state of their finances, which gave me an early appreciation for fiscal responsibility and the value of hard work. Nothing was ever really broken, my dad was usually able to fix it, the idea of things(and people, relationships) being disposable was unheard of, there was very little "it's broken, toss it and buy a new one". Tools was one of first few words in my vocabulary; at the same time, from my father I learned how to clean a bathroom and mop a floor. My mother helped me lug plywood from HD for my clubhouse while pregnant with one of my siblings. Fast forward some years: While my wife is far from a feminist, she is a determined, accomplished woman in her own right, having completed her CPA with one kid, and pregnant with the next(she got her license in the mail 3 weeks before she delivered our 2nd :D ) all while working full time. And while she knows the right end of a screwdriver, she would rather hike the mall than a mountain; she knows her way around jumper cables and flat tires, but she usually leaves that stuff to me. While many of her friends are living off of their parents, in small apartments, we(she) scrimped and saved so that we can buy a house on our own, which she is quite proud of and rightfully so. The point is, my wife understands that she is the "better" in "better half" without needing to be a "better" man too. At the moment, I guess her only gripe is my ever expanding "honey to do" list. :p
My .0002
I'm still wondering why everyone is picking on Peter Pan.
Not only did he organize the lost boys and then take out Cpt Hook and the rest of the pirates - with the help of the big toothed reptile -- but he got the girl - plus he could fly.
Plus he wore a funny green hat. Hmmmm, maybe Peter Pan was SF and HALO.
I'm still wondering why everyone is picking on Peter Pan.
Not only did he organize the lost boys and then take out Cpt Hook and the rest of the pirates - with the help of the big toothed reptile -- but he got the girl - plus he could fly.
Plus he wore a funny green hat. Hmmmm, maybe Peter Pan was SF and HALO.
LOL Excellent. :D
Fully agree with many of the posts above regarding learning and developing skills from our parents (I also picked up much hanging around my grandfather).
I started learning carpentry when I was six, measuring and marking and and HAND sawing for my little projects, and helping remodel our house. Also used the old egg beater type drills that were common in the day.
Cooking was another skill I was introduced to early on...simple stuff like eggs, toast, sandwiches...
My dad was and still is a workaholic...his idea of a day off is going into the office at 9:30 in the a.m...and thus instills the value of work and long hours also coached the one season I tried basketball, and my one season in little league. And was involved in my camping and scouting activiyies.
One of the most important things I learned from my stepmom at 11 or 12 years was how to do my own laundry! I never looked at it as a chore, or a bother, but didn't come to fully appreciate it until I was much older.
She also taught me some basic sewing skills which not only came in handy in the navy, but also a bit later in life as the buttons on my shorts seem to pop off from time to time (not anything to do with the lite beer I drink) :cool:
My mom still teaches yoga and introduced me to that early on, which I still practice on occasion. Nothing like an hour of relaxing stretching. And she is a much, much better cook now than she was back then (sorry, Mom, couldn't resist) so we can always improve.
Then there are other influences, my best friend and his dad were always working on cars, mowers...so I picked up some great skills there.
I have been fortunate to have some great jobs working with some guys who were the best at what they did in specialized industry/skills.
And of course the LPOs (the E-6s) and LCPOs (the E-7s an up) (okay, there was an officer or two along the way) I was surounded by in the navy.
In summary, influences (can't forget my highschool wrestling coach) comes from all around, and at all stages of life. We should never stop learning from ourselves or others. Reminds me of the saying "it takes a village to raise a child."
Reminds me of the saying "it takes a village to raise a child."
That's what she said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/15/hillary-clinton-drinking-colombia_n_1426739.html
That's what she said.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/15/hillary-clinton-drinking-colombia_n_1426739.html
Yuck...I would have prefered Palin:D
Looks like the ManFigs are going to enjoy their company :D :
Pat, I laughed out loud when I looked at that pic and read your post. Her hand is locked and ready! :p
But seriously, I think so much of this discussion has to do with your acceptance of your own opportunities. Is it really about all the men being 'bad' or is it about me being 'bad' and attracting all the wrong men?
I went off to college with high hopes and expectations, but I made a lot of poor dating choices during those years (thank God I didn't marry any of them). I wasn't consciously trying to rebel and date all the 'bad boys' but my behavior led me to attracting those types.
I think about those lessons today. I am responsible for my behavior, subtle or overt, and the type of attention it attracts. If I don't "know where all the good men are" maybe I need to look in the mirror and fix my opportunities before going online and writing a silly article for Fox News.
I know plenty of good men. I haven't yet found my 'good man', or life partner if you will. But I have several married/divorced men in my life that are excellent friends and excellent examples of what real men are. I won't settle for anything less than a man who can match their positive traits, and until I find 'the one' I have great friends who apparently love me as I am and make me laugh, so life goes on. I don't understand the need to stand around the water cooler and moan about how men suck. Could be just me though....;)
Pat, I laughed out loud when I looked at that pic and read your post. Her hand is locked and ready! :p
:D The LadyFig gets it while all you GuyFigs are busy getting in touch with your inner GQFig selves. ;)
Pat
:D The LadyFig gets it while all you GuyFigs are busy getting in touch with your inner GQFig selves. ;)
Pat
I know, right? I guess in LEGO's new version only the LadyFigs are "hypersexualized" and the ManFigs get a tailored Italian suit and wrinkle cream. :D
At least I know what I am doing in playtime....if my LadyFig's hand is shaped like that, it's not going over the handle of a cooking pan....:munchin
Just another skirmish in the ages olde 'Battle of the Sexes'...or maybe today it would be called 'The Gender Wars.' I read Bill Bennett's book and the OpEd piece by Ms Nance - sounds to me as if she's jealous because Peter Pan preferred 'mature' women (there's another term for that in current use ;) ) and because many younger men today seem to prefer to play their own games rather than go along with those the likes of Ms Nance want them to play. :rolleyes:
And so it goes...
Richard :munchin
Utah Bob
04-21-2012, 08:59
I blame it on global warming.
I blame it on global warming.
...which is Bush's fault.
...which is Bush's fault.
Well...it is all about bush...right? ;)
Richard :munchin
Well...it is all about bush...right? ;)
Richard :munchin
See? Thats EXACTLY what she's talking about!
Valour is still value. The first duty for a man is still that of subduing Fear. We must get rid of Fear; we cannot act at all till then.
- Thomas Carlyle, On Heroes, Hero-Worship and the Heroic in History
The Reaper
04-21-2012, 17:10
Because of the neutering and pussification of the American male.
Feel good, do nothing policies from the liberal left. Diversity programs. Affirmative action. inEqual opportunity programs. Special "protected" categories of citizens. Some animals are more equal than others.
Apologies for being a man, and acting like one.
Who is John Galt?
TR
Roguish Lawyer
04-21-2012, 17:33
Because of the neutering and pussification of the American male.
Feel good, do nothing policies from the liberal left. Diversity programs. Affirmative action. inEqual opportunity programs. Special "protected" categories of citizens. Somne animals are more equal than others.
Apologies for being a man, and acting like one.
Who is John Galt?
TR
Preach on, brother! :D
mojaveman
04-21-2012, 17:44
I'm still wondering why everyone is picking on Peter Pan.
Not only did he organize the lost boys and then take out Cpt Hook and the rest of the pirates - with the help of the big toothed reptile -- but he got the girl - plus he could fly.
Plus he wore a funny green hat. Hmmmm, maybe Peter Pan was SF and HALO.
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