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Team Sergeant
11-13-2011, 13:48
I'm going to work extra hard not to purchase anything from Kalif......
Court Backs High School in Flap Over American Flag T-Shirts
Published November 13, 2011
FoxNews.com
A California school principal did not violate the freedom of speech of a group of students who wore American flags on their shirts on Cinco de Mayo when he told them to turn the shirts inside out or go home, a federal judge has ruled.
Citing past clashes between Mexican American and Anglo students over their clothing on the Mexican holiday, Chief U.S. District Judge James Ware of San Francisco said school officials "reasonably forecast that (the shirts) could cause a substantial disruption" and were entitled to take steps to prevent it, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.
The case arose in an ethnically charged atmosphere at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill. On the previous Cinco de Mayo, Ware said, a group of Mexican-American students walked around with a Mexican flag, and a group of Anglo students responded by hoisting a makeshift American flag up a tree, chanting "U-S-A" and exchanging profanities and threats with the Latino youths.
While the Supreme Court has ruled that public school students have the right to engage in nondisruptive free speech, that ruling "does not require that school officials wait until disruption occurs before they act," Ware said in his ruling Tuesday dismissing the students' lawsuit, according to the paper.
Mark Posard, a lawyer for the Morgan Hill Unified School District, said Friday that Ware's decision "affirmed that school safety is paramount."
Bill Becker, a lawyer for the youths and their parents, said they would appeal "this bizarre ruling."
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/13/court-backs-high-school-in-flap-over-american-flag-t-shirts/#ixzz1dcHnA7y1
Roguish Lawyer
11-13-2011, 14:15
Nothing unusual at all about this ruling. Schools can limit speech a lot more than others.
greenberetTFS
11-13-2011, 14:16
California!!!!!!........:rolleyes: They ought to give that state back to Mexico........:mad:
Nothing surprises me anymore on what comes out of that state............:eek:
Big Teddy :munchin
monsterhunter
11-13-2011, 15:11
California!!!!!!........:rolleyes: They ought to give that state back to Mexico........:mad:
Nothing surprises me anymore on what comes out of that state............:eek:
Big Teddy :munchin
They already have. It was just a slow process. Ten more years and I'm heading to Idaho and free America.
For anybody interested in rehashing the arguments over this one...
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28749&highlight=oak+hill+school
Gutes lesen, y'all!
And so it goes...
Richard :munchin
mojaveman
11-13-2011, 18:21
They already have. It was just a slow process. Ten more years and I'm heading to Idaho and free America.
As a fellow Californian I couldn't agre with you more. This isn't the same state that I grew up in 40 years ago. The seeds have already been planted and it's only going to get worse. I too am planning on packing my bags, I just haven't decided where yet.
Excusa me, you speaka Spanish?
Click... :D :p
I'm going to work extra hard not to purchase anything from Kalif......
As a Jr. Chef, that may be hard to do. ;)
Pat
PedOncoDoc
11-14-2011, 05:44
Would this ruling also sugest that the school should prevent any displaying of the Mexican flag as well, since it sparked hostilities in the past?
How about preventing homosexual students from demonstrating on gay pride day out of fear for there safety?
This really pisses me off. :mad:
ZonieDiver
11-14-2011, 06:18
California!!!!!!........:rolleyes: They ought to give that state back to Mexico........:mad:
Nothing surprises me anymore on what comes out of that state........
Big Teddy :munchin
Great idea! Then maybe the hotel rooms would be more affordable, not to mention restaurants!:D
My Mom's side of the family settled NorCal when it was a republic, same as my Dad's side of the family who settled in Texas when it, too, was a republic. I own the family ranch there in NorCal in the Sacramento Valley where I rent it out and visit several times a year - checking on the property and then spending time in the wine country, along the North Coast, around the Bay Area, or Sierras (skiing at Northstar-Lake Tahoe) which I can write off as a business related trip. I miss the area and we may move back there this coming year depending on how the taxes would shake out if we chose to do so. My wife just spent the weekend in Napa at the film festival with friends helping host their Gustavo-Thrace/Toolbox hospitality area and we've decided we'd like to spend our 'golden years' doing just that - maybe with Bogle over in Clarksburg along the Sacramento River and 18.2 miles from my ranch or selling the ranch and moving over around Napa with Gustavo-Thrace.
My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and y'all can say what you want, but NorCal is one place we would happily live out the rest of our lives.
Richard :munchin
dollarbill
11-14-2011, 08:23
This ranks right up there with push one for english. I can see it now, what ever you do don't show the Mexican Flag on the 4th of July. Seems to me what goes around, comes around.
Ambush Master
11-14-2011, 09:41
My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and y'all can say what you want, but NorCal is one place we would happily live out the rest of our lives.
Richard :munchin
No WAY!!! Can't own Machineguns there!!!:D
ZonieDiver
11-14-2011, 10:21
No WAY!!! Can't own Machineguns there!!!:D
... Legally!;)
I'm not sure you can own pellet guns there... legally!
x SF med
11-14-2011, 11:06
This thread has made the Dead Kennedys playlist run through my head... especially California Uber Alles...
...and so it goes... (borrowed from richard, who borrowed it from Vonnegut, who stole it from Billy Pilgrim his own self....)
Would this ruling also sugest that the school should prevent any displaying of the Mexican flag as well, since it sparked hostilities in the past?
How about preventing homosexual students from demonstrating on gay pride day out of fear for there safety?
This really pisses me off. :mad:
Wouldn't that be discrimination?
I sir, am disgusted as well.
DJ Urbanovsky
11-14-2011, 11:23
Great. Now I have to put that on my mp3 player to get it out of my head.
I think it's interesting that Jerry Brown was Gov of CA when Jello wrote the lyrics to that song. Lyrics were subsequently updated many years later for "modern day" when Jello was performing that song on tour with The Melvins. Among other things, Brown becomes Schwarzenegger. Now, Brown is Gov of CA once more, and the old lyrics are new again.
This thread has made the Dead Kennedys playlist run through my head... especially California Uber Alles...
mojaveman
11-14-2011, 11:31
but NorCal is one place we would happily live out the rest of our lives.
True, it's still pretty nice up there around Shasta and the Siskiyous.
My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and y'all can say what you want, but NorCal is one place we would happily live out the rest of our lives.
I couldn't agree more having gone to high school in the Sacto foothills. Like most places the cities can be chock full of nuts at times, but the rural areas are absolutely beautiful with all sorts of things to do. When the libs get to me, I head up to wine country, hike, fish or go shoot some feral hogs. Although I must admit, the Tahoe area on the Nevada side is very appealing too...
Cake_14N
11-15-2011, 08:29
Going to start posting this picture everywhere I go, sort of like Kilroy was here or the V from "V" for Vendetta...
DevilSide
11-16-2011, 16:22
I don't see why theres so much trouble on Cinco de Mayo there. Thats like free food day for me :D My best friends and their family (who are American-Mexican) always let me come over for the partying that day, might as well be an American holiday yeah? Like Oktoberfest.
might as well be an American holiday yeah?
It is. It's not celebrated in Mexico except in the state of Puebla where the battle took place.
Pat
DevilSide
11-17-2011, 18:12
It is. It's not celebrated in Mexico except in the state of Puebla where the battle took place.
Pat
Didn't know that actually, alot of my friends are actually from or descended of Guanajuato, everyone needs an excuse to try getting the day off and having fun.