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Whiplash
09-12-2011, 12:41
Ok so I have searched the forums about this and couldnt find what I was looking for. So here is my question. I know that to get an 18x contract you have to be 20, and I have heard from recruiters that you have to be 20 when you go to sign up at MEPS even if your turning 20 in a couple of months. In my case in December. I recall seeing somewhere that you had to be 20 upon completion of AIT if you have the 18x contract. So which is correct? I am trying to decide weather to wait a couple of months or to go ahead and sign up and try to get a ranger option.

Pete
09-12-2011, 13:55
Special Forces Recuiter at Ft Bragg

http://www.facebook.com/USArmySpecOpsRecruiting.Bragg

Man, who'd a thunk it. SF Recruiting has a Face Book page.

http://www.bragg.army.mil/sorb/

And a web site.

Contact them for the straight skinny right from the horse's mouth.

Geenie
09-12-2011, 14:31
Gentlemen,

I wanted to write to SORB with a question, however, in the 'Contact Us' section it states that they are only in charge of recruiting members who are already on duty. In the contact form they want you to enter MOS, Rank, and GT score.

What would you suggest I, as a civilian, do to get in contact with them without filling the form with phony information?

The Reaper
09-12-2011, 17:38
Ok so I have searched the forums about this and couldnt find what I was looking for. So here is my question. I know that to get an 18x contract you have to be 20, and I have heard from recruiters that you have to be 20 when you go to sign up at MEPS even if your turning 20 in a couple of months. In my case in December. I recall seeing somewhere that you had to be 20 upon completion of AIT if you have the 18x contract. So which is correct? I am trying to decide weather to wait a couple of months or to go ahead and sign up and try to get a ranger option.

What's the rush?

Do you want to be SF, or SOF?

TR

Richard
09-12-2011, 17:50
I am trying to decide weather...

That's an SOWT task - you're looking at the wrong outfit.

http://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=179

Richard :munchin

greenberetTFS
09-12-2011, 18:05
That's an SOWT task - you're looking at the wrong outfit.

http://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=179

Richard :munchin

Richard,

You are a real shit!..........;) :D

Big Teddy :munchin

mark46th
09-12-2011, 19:57
You beat me to it, Teddy!

Whiplash
09-12-2011, 21:43
TR, it is my goal to be SF and I did find out that it is indeed 20 upon completion of OSUT

The Reaper
09-12-2011, 21:46
TR, it is my goal to be SF and I did find out that it is indeed 20 upon completion of OSUT

I do not see the urgency, young Jedi.

TR

Geenie
09-14-2011, 04:22
QPs,

since I didn't want to enter phony information in the contact form, I decided to give the Special Forces Recruiting Team Europe a call on their civilian number. After three calls I managed to get someone on the line, though I was told that the person "who would know that kind of stuff" wasn't there at the moment. I was also made aware of the fact that they are the recruiting station for active members of the military.


Should I call back, or adjust fire and try somewhere else?

Dozer523
09-14-2011, 09:12
QPs,

since I didn't want to enter phony information in the contact form, I decided to give the Special Forces Recruiting Team Europe a call on their civilian number. After three calls I managed to get someone on the line, though I was told that the person "who would know that kind of stuff" wasn't there at the moment. I was also made aware of the fact that they are the recruiting station for active members of the military.


Should I call back, or adjust fire and try somewhere else?ahh how time looks to a 19 year old.
"3 MONTHS? That's FOREVER":(

I was 19 once . . . a long, long, long time ago.;)
Pace yourself Padiwan, a 20-30 year career is a long time.

Geenie
09-14-2011, 10:35
ahh how time looks to a 19 year old.
"3 MONTHS? That's FOREVER":(

I was 19 once . . . a long, long, long time ago.;)
Pace yourself Padiwan, a 20-30 year career is a long time.

Sir,

thank you for addressing my post. I believe you misread it, however. To clarify, I am not the OP. I am also not 19, but rather 23 - not that it would make much of a difference to the members of this board. I am not sure what relevance the "3 months" referenced in your post has to my question, but your comment about pacing oneself is definitely well taken. Young people like us have a habit of putting the horse before the cart. In that respect, this site has definitely done well in the way of stressing the importance of the 25m target, hence my question regarding whom to contact with my question about initial entry into the army.

1stindoor
09-14-2011, 11:49
Sir,
...hence my question regarding whom to contact with my question about initial entry into the army.

From a purely logical standpoint...if you're looking to get information about initial entry...your best bet is with a recruiter.

RndTblKnght
09-15-2011, 10:43
I hope I am not overstepping my boundaries here by answering this question and not being a QP, but I am currently on recruiting duty and we just received a new USAREC message this morning on the SF Program. The message is below minus the USAREC G3 contact info. I hope this helps answer your questions. Section 5h in the below message will be done with your recruiter after you have completed MEPS processing and are in the delayed entry program with an 18X contract.

V/R
Mike

141600 September 2011 (EST) USAREC MESSAGE 11-228
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
From: Headquarters USAREC
To: All Recruiting Personnel


SUBJECT: Special Forces Enlistment Program. (Updated)

1. THIS IS AN IMMEDIATE MESSAGE; DELIVER TO ALL RECRUITING PERSONNEL.

2. This message is valid for 2 years from date of publication, unless rescinded
or superseded.

3. References:

a. Army Regulation 601-210, Active and Reserve Component Enlistment
Program, dated 8 Feb 2011, (with operational changes), dated 14 Jun 2011.

b. Memorandum from ODCSPER, SUBJECT: Special Forces Recruiting Initiative
Implementation Guidance, dated 8 December 1999.

c. USAREC Messages 10-119, Special Forces Enlistment Program. (Rescinded)

4. Effective immediately, the requirement to take the Defense Language Aptitude
Battery (DLAB) at the MEPS for enlistment into MOS 18X is suspended. All new
recruits are given the opportunity to take the DLAB while at Fort Bragg, NC.

5. Soldiers who want to volunteer for the Special Forces may enlist under
Program 9A, U.S. Army Training Enlistment Program, Option 3 (U.S. Army Training
of Choice Enlistment Option), Surrogate Military Occupational Specialty (MOS) of
18X (SF Recruit). Individuals, both non-prior (NPS) and prior service (PS), must
be eligible to enlist and meet all additional prerequisites listed below:

a. Must be 20 years of age by graduation of CMF 11 One Station Unit Training
(OSUT) and have not reached their 30th birthday prior to ship date.

b. Qualified for, and volunteer for airborne training (must have airborne
stamp on physical).

c. Must be a U.S. Citizen.

d. Minimum scores of 107 GT and 98 CO.

e. High School Diploma Graduate (Tier 1).

f. One year of college is preferred, but is not mandatory for enlistment.

g. Must be eligible for a SECRET clearance.

h. All NPS applicants must successfully complete the Pre-Basic Training
Task List (USAREC Form 1137). ALL NPS and PS applicants must take and pass the
Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT) with minimum scores of 60 points in each event.
The APFT must be administered within 30 days prior to ship date. Forward a copy
of DA Fm 705 (Army Physical Fitness Test Scorecard) and the USAREC Fm 1137 to
guidance counselor shop for verification for accelerated promotion. Individuals
will be enlisted in pay grade E-3 (based on HQDA exception for this option).
Those individuals who fail any event of the APFT or the Pre-Basic Training Task
List will have their contract renegotiated and will only be authorized advanced
promotion based on provisions of AR 601-210.

6. Individuals (NPS, DOS/PS who require retraining) will enlist under Option 3
(U.S. Army Training of Choice Enlistment Option), MOS 18X, will ship to Fort
Benning, GA and follow the training path listed below:

a. In-processing through the Reception Battalion.

b. OSUT for MOS 11X. Soldiers must achieve an Army Physical Fitness Test
(APFT) score of 229 with a minimum of 60 points in each event upon completion of
OSUT.

c. Airborne training.

d. Special Operations Preparatory & Conditioning (SOPC) Course (Fort Bragg,
NC). This course is two weeks in duration, consisting of physical conditioning,
land navigation, and small unit team building. Individuals will be required to
meet Special Forces (SF) selection and eligibility criteria as outlined in AR
614-200, Chapter 5.5. Individuals must obtain an electrocardiogram (EKG) prior
to their arrival at SOPC Course.

7. Individuals already holding primary MOS of 11B (DOS/PS) who are not airborne
qualified, Guidance Counselors must contact the ROC for assistance.

8. Those individuals already MOS qualified as 11B and airborne qualified, will
enlist under Option 03 (U.S. Army Training of Choice Enlistment Option) with
reclassification into 18X. Those individuals must be eligible for a SECRET
clearance. The Soldiers will ship to Ft. Benning, GA and complete in processing
and then at that time will take the Special Forces Physical. Contact ROC for any
required assistance.

9. Once Soldiers meet all the criteria, they will be scheduled for SOPC at
Ft. Bragg and then continue on to the Special Forces Assessment and Selection
Course (SFAS) (3 weeks 3 days) as outlined in DA Pam 351-4.

10. Individuals who successfully complete SFAS, will be assigned to Special
Operations Command until scheduled for Special Forces Qualification Course
(SFQC).

11. Guidance counselors will use REQUEST MOS 18X when using this program.
Counselors will ensure that proper entries are made on DD Form 1966 series and
that the Dynamic Annexes from GCRc, both at DEP-In and DEP-Out (appropriate forms
IAW UR 601-96 for DOS/PS).

Whiplash
09-16-2011, 12:09
That's exactly what I was looking for thank you.