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NousDefionsDoc
12-01-2008, 20:58
Anybody know of any unclassified manuals besides FM 3-22.9 that address the subject?

mcarey
12-01-2008, 21:40
Here is a link to AMU Pistol Marksmanship Manual

http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Sideline/4987/Pistol/AMUmanual/Amu-pmtg.htm

May want to get the SFUAC Manual too, just drop by USAJFKSWCS DOTD if at Bragg or give them a call for a copy.:D

You can get on SIPR too I beleive.

tom kelly
12-04-2008, 03:06
Do you have a phone number for the Bldg. the unit is in or an address and Bldg. number. Iam interested in the manual and have friends in Fayetteville area who could stop by and get the manual. Any further info is appreciated. Regard's, tom kelly e-mail kellymedica333@aol.com

koz
12-04-2008, 12:25
IM and e-mail sent.

Peregrino
12-04-2008, 15:23
The last time I checked the current SFAUC manual was classified Confidential for TTPs. Not sure it will meet your needs under those conditions.

The Reaper
12-04-2008, 15:33
The last time I checked the current SFAUC manual was classified Confidential for TTPs. Not sure it will meet your needs under those conditions.

Same thing I heard.

No distribution outside of official channels.

TR

JGarcia
12-11-2008, 22:11
The AMU has a CQM course offered through ATRRS. I don't know who is doing the instructing for that particular course, but they might have something in line with what you are looking for.

NousDefionsDoc
12-12-2008, 23:40
I'm good fellows thanks. The FMs are a little scanty on the subject aren't they...LOL

Sinister
12-13-2008, 10:18
The Infantry School published Military Operations Other than War (MOOTWZ 206) in January 1994, post-Mogadishu.

It was basically the SF CQC Manual hijacked by the Ranger Regiment with an official Infantry Center and School cover. Directorate of Doctrine no longer publishes it.

It had all the Training Evaluation Outlines (TEOs) with Tasks, Conditions, and Standards and number of rounds and ordnance required, along with DODICs.

It was WAY watered down and published as a change to the Infantryman's Guide to Urban Combat, then thinned and watered down again and is in the new guide.

JGarcia
12-29-2008, 11:24
The Infantry School published Military Operations Other than War (MOOTWZ 206) in January 1994, post-Mogadishu.

It was basically the SF CQC Manual hijacked by the Ranger Regiment with an official Infantry Center and School cover. Directorate of Doctrine no longer publishes it.

It had all the Training Evaluation Outlines (TEOs) with Tasks, Conditions, and Standards and number of rounds and ordnance required, along with DODICs.

It was WAY watered down and published as a change to the Infantryman's Guide to Urban Combat, then thinned and watered down again and is in the new guide.

Sinister,

What "new guide" are you talking about?

Sinister
12-29-2008, 19:14
New manual, but no Task-Conditions-Standards Training Evaluation Outlines (it's all 1-over-the-world "Schoolbook Solution" shit without the nuts and bolts so E6 Squad Leaders and E5 Buck Sergeants can run training).

The TEOs made it into the draft M16 manual but were cut out in 1986 and 2006 or 07.