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Roguish Lawyer
11-11-2008, 14:32
I am getting ready to stock up before Obama taxes the living daylights out of ammo. Any thoughts on this brand? I'm getting .45 ACP, .40 S&W and 9mm Luger. Also will be getting .223, but not sure if they make it. It seems to be priced well and I have had good luck with Remington ammo generally, but not sure what the "UMC" means. Good reviews on web sites I've looked at.

Federal American Eagle is another possibility.

Rogue
11-11-2008, 15:07
Check out this site. I've ordered lots and lots of bulk from here. Great prices.

http://ammoman.com/

Also, UMC is great practice ammo.... shoots clean

JSE
11-11-2008, 16:00
UMC has always treated me well.

Paslode
11-11-2008, 16:18
I have shot UMC before in .223, 40 SW and 9mm, I had no problems.


As rifle ammo goes, the last bulk of .223 I purchased was LC XM193 from Jason's Ammo in VA....nice guy and his prices are more than fair. Only catch with Jason is he only sells 7.62 and .223/5.56. Because his last experience with the ARFcomers, if you want his info PM me.
Other rifle ammo I had good results with was Ultramax 75 gr. HP. I have read some horror stories about Ultramax and Wolf, but personally I have never had a problem with either. On occasion, I find Black Hills White Box Mk262 at the local Cabellas which is really nice stuff. Privi makes some decent Brass Cased M193 and M855 Green Tip as well.

Roguish Lawyer
11-11-2008, 16:23
I will never buy Ultramax again. Had many problems with it.

Paslode
11-11-2008, 16:42
I will never buy Ultramax again. Had many problems with it.

Sounds like I was lucky not to have any mishaps with the hundred rounds I shot.


Not sure how a good a deal it is, but Cabellas had a special on 100 rds. UMC 40SW 180gr. HP for 32 to 33 dollars and 250rds of Magtech FMJ for around 75 dollars.

Roguish Lawyer
11-11-2008, 18:30
I went with the Winchester USA, which has been just fine for my purposes. Great prices at Natchez right now.

The Reaper
11-11-2008, 20:04
I went with the Winchester USA, which has been just fine for my purposes. Great prices at Natchez right now.

That is where I do most of my non-surplus ammo shopping.

Ammoman is GTG as well, prices include shipping.

TR

ClemsonTiger
11-12-2008, 04:57
I previously used 9mm UMC hollowpoints in my carry weapon, but found that it would not reliably expand. You should look into reloading. With an inexpensive Lee progressive kit I have been saving anywhere from $60-80 per 1000 reloaded rounds.

Psywar1-0
11-12-2008, 06:32
I can not remember if the green and white box 55g 223 that you can get at walmart is Rem/UMC or not. If it is then it will not cycle a Mk18 unless you have the can on it.

Team Sergeant
11-12-2008, 07:33
I am getting ready to stock up before Obama taxes the living daylights out of ammo. Any thoughts on this brand? I'm getting .45 ACP, .40 S&W and 9mm Luger. Also will be getting .223, but not sure if they make it. It seems to be priced well and I have had good luck with Remington ammo generally, but not sure what the "UMC" means. Good reviews on web sites I've looked at.

Federal American Eagle is another possibility.


Union Metallic Cartridge Company.

If you have the money you're not going to go wrong with a purchase of Remington, Federal or Winchester ammunition.

I've bought all threee for decades with no problems, make that zero problems.

You can go to Wal Mart and get all three and you can get it by the case there. You are not going to find ammo of better quality for the same price, not unless you do your own reloading.

If you decide to make an internet purchase of some off the wall ammo you had better do your due diligence first.

TS

ZooKeeper
11-12-2008, 13:00
It looks they are swamped like the rest of the industry. They have the following message on ammonman.com

AMMOMAN.COM WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY NEW ORDERS AT THIS TIME
WE ARE SWAMPED
RIGHT NOW WE ARE ABOUT 3000 ORDERS TO FILL
THAT'S ABOUT A DAY OR TWO BEHIND FOR US
PLEASE BE PATIENT AND WE WILL BEGIN ACCEPTING NEW ORDERS SOON

The Reaper
11-12-2008, 13:10
It looks they are swamped like the rest of the industry. They have the following message on ammonman.com

AMMOMAN.COM WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY NEW ORDERS AT THIS TIME
WE ARE SWAMPED
RIGHT NOW WE ARE ABOUT 3000 ORDERS TO FILL
THAT'S ABOUT A DAY OR TWO BEHIND FOR US
PLEASE BE PATIENT AND WE WILL BEGIN ACCEPTING NEW ORDERS SOON


I ordered with Natchez last Thursday or Friday, they sent me an email Saturday stating that they were out of the PMC Bronze, and asking me what I wanted them to do. I asked them for an alternative boxer-primed, brass-cased, copper-jacketed FMJ round in the same price range, and they came back almost immediately with the Remington, which was only 40 cents per box more, so I asked that they substitute it for the PMC. Got a confirmation within minutes, and shipping notification Monday.

Great company to do business with.

FYI.

TR

Stras
11-12-2008, 14:12
Union Metallic Cartridge Company.

If you have the money you're not going to go wrong with a purchase of Remington, Federal or Winchester ammunition.

I've bought all three for decades with no problems, make that zero problems.

You can go to Wal Mart and get all three and you can get it by the case there. You are not going to find ammo of better quality for the same price, not unless you do your own reloading.

If you decide to make an internet purchase of some off the wall ammo you had better do your due diligence first.

TS

Walmart:
100rds of .45 AUTO, 230 grain, by Winchester is $29.99
Remington 300 WIN MAG, 180 Gr, box of 20 was $25.99
Remington .308, 150 Gr, box of 20 was 23.99.

Gander not only price matched the .45 and 300 WIN MAG, but they also gave me 10% discount for the Military ID Card. Gander price for .45 was $49.99 and for 300 WIN MAG was $29.99.

I order my 6MM NORMA BR through Midway. It runs about $80 for 50 rds, when they have it in stock. Walmart beat Midway by $1.30 on 300 WIN MAG and .308 prices.

Team Sergeant
11-12-2008, 14:31
I order my 6MM NORMA BR through Midway. It runs about $80 for 50 rds, when they have it in stock. Walmart beat Midway by $1.30 on 300 WIN MAG and .308 prices.

I get a lot of stuff through MidwayUSA also.

Edit to add, there's a big run on ammo, I've never seen midwayusa.com out of 5.56.:rolleyes:

I'd better head down to wal-mart and buy a few cases....;)

Roguish Lawyer
11-12-2008, 17:02
Natchez is cheaper than Wal Mart right now. The only issue I had was that their web site was REALLY slow -- literally took me an hour to scroll through their offerings and place my order for five different types of ammo. Felt like I was on dial-up.

Stras
11-12-2008, 17:23
While it may be cheaper buying online, by paying cash one avoids a paper trail which could possibly be used by the Obama-nites in the future to track us legal law abiding citizens... :eek:

How much are the shipping charges with Natchez? Looking at the price for one box of 300 WIN Mag, shipping charges were estimated at $11. I'll stick with Walmart and Gander Mountain in the price wars.

Paslode
11-12-2008, 17:45
Last time I did a ammo purchase online, I checked Natchez, Midway, Ammoman, AmmotoGo, Century and Aim. AIM was the lowest including shipping.

The Reaper
11-12-2008, 17:55
While it may be cheaper buying online, by paying cash one avoids a paper trail which could possibly be used by the Obama-nites in the future to track us legal law abiding citizens... :eek:

How much are the shipping charges with Natchez? Looking at the price for one box of 300 WIN Mag, shipping charges were estimated at $11. I'll stick with Walmart and Gander Mountain in the price wars.

100 pounds was $40 to deliver to NC, which is about half the sales tax you would have to pay locally.

TR

Roguish Lawyer
11-12-2008, 18:59
I got 1,000 rounds each of .223, 9mm, .40 and .45 and 100 rounds of buck shot. Shipping was $140.

vsvo
11-13-2008, 12:38
Natchez is cheaper than Wal Mart right now. The only issue I had was that their web site was REALLY slow -- literally took me an hour to scroll through their offerings and place my order for five different types of ammo. Felt like I was on dial-up.

LOL, yes it's a bit painful scrolling through the pages, but I am another happy Natchez customer. Love it when the brown truck pulls up disgorging small, but heavy, packages!

I used to like (and preferred) going to Walmart to buy ammo, until they started pulling ammo off the shelves of several stores in the DC area.

Roguish Lawyer
11-13-2008, 21:57
I got a shipping confirmation already -- pretty darn good considering I ordered late in the day on Tuesday.