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Anyone Study? What do you study, How long have you studied, Would you recommend your art to anyone else?
Kyobanim
05-05-2004, 19:18
I've studied Jidu Kwan Tae Kwon Do for just about 5 years. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone looking for a self defense martial art. The self defense our school uses is based on Hapkido and Ju Jitzu with very little kicking.
TKD is pretty much feet. There's not too many people who can use it as an effective self defense. But for an all around work out it's really good.
I like it for competition. I've won quite a few against Karate practitioners because they weren't used to all the junping and spinning we do. Then again, I've gotten my ass kicked at the US Open 2 years running because the more experienced guys know how to slip in when I'm up.
But it's like anything else, it's up to the instructor to make it good.
I studied TKD for 5 years too. I'm thinking about getting back into it.
Kyobanim
05-25-2004, 19:48
Here's a martial arts forum that's just getting started. Thought you guys might want to check it out.
Air, there's no one there for Arnis.
NousDefionsDoc
05-25-2004, 20:03
Monkey Stomping is my style. My Master:
NousDefionsDoc
05-25-2004, 20:13
Weapon of choice:
Kyobanim
05-25-2004, 20:22
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Monkey Stomping is my style. My Master:
I feel the creative bug coming over me . . .
NousDefionsDoc
05-25-2004, 20:28
Seriously
What I like (http://www.gutterfighting.org/)
Not for the kiddies for sure.
Kyobanim
05-25-2004, 20:32
Monky stompin .. . mugging for the camera.
I got to check out that site when the boy goes to bed.
The Reaper
05-25-2004, 20:48
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Seriously
What I like (http://www.gutterfighting.org/)
Not for the kiddies for sure.
I smell Kelly Mc involved with this.
TR
Kyobanim
05-25-2004, 20:54
I like that site. Of particular interest was the edge hand knock out points.
NousDefionsDoc
05-25-2004, 21:00
Originally posted by The Reaper
I smell Kelly Mc involved with this.
TR
LOL - you know me well. He is of that line.
Bill Harsey
05-25-2004, 21:03
Eight years Tang Soo Do with Chuck Norris, Pacific Northwest Team Captain for three years, won Western States Championships for two out of the three. Then I began the long journey from "Samurai to Swordmaker". Any of you hotshots want to pick me off, please know I can get hit as hard as anyone you ever knew. The only style of martial arts I have any desire to further study is Monkey Stomping!
NousDefionsDoc
05-25-2004, 21:09
The only style of martial arts I have any desire to further study is Monkey Stomping!
MONKEY STOMPING!
LOL
JIHADITO!
Bill Harsey
05-25-2004, 21:11
MASTER! Thank you for not making fun of my humble desires.
NousDefionsDoc
05-25-2004, 21:15
Training with Chuck is impressive Blade Master. He used to hit verrrry hard from what I saw when he was fighting. Probably still go a round or two.
Bill Harsey
05-25-2004, 21:25
Martial Arts and modern warfare, very interesting topic. First, learn the firearms. Col. Rex Applegate and i discussed this several times. both shooting and hand to hand fighting had some common factors, training the reflexes for emergency stress response had a lot to do with success or not. Don't get locked into a single "style". We trained american boxing, grappling, judo, takedowns and throws as well as strikes. We could do high kicks ( in the old days I could do a jump spinning heel kick thru three inches of wood held suspended by the top only) and have knocked out several partners in training with body kicks. That scared the shit out of me because I'd thought I'd killed a friend when they hit the deck vibrating like a stunned fish, but I also understood how exposed high kicks were "on the street". Keep it real.
NousDefionsDoc
05-25-2004, 21:34
I love this topic. The Gung Ho Chuan and Gutter Fighters, same line as Col. Applegate, use a force continuum/escalation theory. Empty hand/Baton (ASP)/ knife/firearm. Pick your degree of force according to the threat. All are drawn basically the same and presented from the same body position - mechanics are very similar. I agree about the handgun - hardest to learn and I like doing the hard thing first.
Passing, blocking, axe hands, chin jabs, snap cuts, FLASH (for the TS LOL) sight picture shooting. Always having the advantage. Great stuff.
Fighting with rules is sport, and I don't play sports.
Of course The Reaper's BMFG with APLP ammo at 1,000 meters trumps.:munchin
DunbarFC
05-25-2004, 21:35
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Weapon of choice:
You sure you aren't from South Boston ?
;)
Bill Harsey
05-25-2004, 21:38
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Training with Chuck is impressive Blade Master. He used to hit verrrry hard from what I saw when he was fighting. Probably still go a round or two. One cold Oregon season we'd brought Chuck up to Oregon for both a testing and tournament. That cool saturday morning the media was there to do a thing on Chuck so he asked me to help him warm up by my holding the strike pad on my left hand so he could do some spinning heel kicks. The first time he hit my hand was like I got hit with a baseball bat so I pulled my arm back into position so he could do it again (even old guys get lucky...) sumbitch, strike no. 2 was harder and I turned past half ways backwards. Hmmm, momma didn't raise no dummy, ok, quit now or stay in this style of martial arts. well awright, Momma raised a dummy, I put my arm back up and got hit even harder, WOW! I thought, if he misses the pad, my wrist is shattered. Sumbitch, cameras rolling now, can't quit. do it again, this is starting to hurt damnit. 10 times that side then change sides...same thing. Chuck never missed the center of the strike pad. I think he could help with Monkey Stomping.
Bill Harsey
05-25-2004, 21:46
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
I love this topic. The Gung Ho Chuan and Gutter Fighters, same line as Col. Applegate, use a force continuum/escalation theory. Empty hand/Baton (ASP)/ knife/firearm. Pick your degree of force according to the threat. All are drawn basically the same and presented from the same body position - mechanics are very similar. I agree about the handgun - hardest to learn and I like doing the hard thing first.
Passing, blocking, axe hands, chin jabs, snap cuts, FLASH (for the TS LOL) sight picture shooting. Always having the advantage. Great stuff.
Fighting with rules is sport, and I don't play sports.
Of course The Reaper's BMFG with APLP ammo at 1,000 meters trumps.:munchin OK, Lets keep the Good Reaper out of this just for the moment, Using/training the human bodys natural stress response to a threat is the most important thing I learned from Rex Applegate. This is Monkey Stomping 101.
NousDefionsDoc
05-25-2004, 21:51
Originally posted by Air.177
Anyone Study? What do you study, How long have you studied, Would you recommend your art to anyone else?
Are you studying?
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Weapon of choice:
WTF????
No Smatchet???:D
Bill Harsey
05-25-2004, 21:58
Sir Air.177, NDD's question...
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Are you studying?
Not consistantly now, But I still play with Modern Arnis stick stuff and Some Ryuku Kempo w/Kyusho jitsu pressure point stuff thrown in for good measure. Lots of knock outs and energy related stuff.
Originally posted by Bill Harsey
Sir Air.177, NDD's question...
Tallyho, I didn't see it before I posted
skipjack
05-25-2004, 22:18
I studied Jeet Kune Do, along with Kun Tao, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu (with Royce Gracie), Kali (double stick and knife) and a couple others for about 4 years. Still practice periodically. I loved it and wish I had the time and the money to get back into it. Great for practical self defence and a great workout!
-skipjack
NDD, d'you get the 'manual' I e-mailed?
Smokin Joe
05-25-2004, 23:58
Studied Koden Kan Dan Zan Ryu Jujitsu for 13 years (achived Ni-dan).
While studying Jujitsu I did some stuff under Professor Walli Jay.....mostly tap out and scream. What an amazing instructor.
Also did some old school Ninjitsu with a guy from Isreal....If you guys want to know his name PM me I will not post it in the open. He got his 7th in Ninjitsu from Hatsumi in Japan.
Currently just started Combat Hapkido.
I recently went to a Bill Wolfe DEFENDO seminar. WOW that guy is one BAD MAMA JAMA. Mr. Harsey I'm sure you know Mr. Wolfe I guess he learned DEFENDO from Col Applegate. I can't wait to go to another one of his classes.
If you guys are curious this is DEFENDO (http://www.defendo.com/) .
Studied Ed Parker's IKKA Kenpo Karate for 3 1/2 years. Was assistant instructor, for the kiddies and lower ranking belts at my studio for 2 years.
Was Jeff Speakman's punching bag, when he came to Denver to promote his (and Mr. Parker's) movie The Perfect Weapon. My Instructor was more into Kick boxing than Kata's and forms, so we did alot of training in that and competed in alot of the local fights. ( My record 11-2-1) Met Chuck Norris, too. Once was at one of my Instructors fights and latter when I worked on an Episode of Walker, Texas Ranger. Nice guy.
But now that I've found out about the secrets of Monkey Stomping, those other Eastern Styles can take a back seat. Where do I sign up?
NousDefionsDoc
05-26-2004, 08:22
Originally posted by Razor
NDD, d'you get the 'manual' I e-mailed?
Negative
NousDefionsDoc
05-26-2004, 08:31
Originally posted by Smokin Joe
I recently went to a Bill Wolfe DEFENDO seminar. WOW that guy is one BAD MAMA JAMA. Mr. Harsey I'm sure you know Mr. Wolfe I guess he learned DEFENDO from Col Applegate. I can't wait to go to another one of his classes.
If you guys are curious this is DEFENDO (http://www.defendo.com/) .
My research indicates that Col. Applegate did not have to do with Defendo. It would seem that DEFENDU was what Fairbairn called his system fairly early on. I would guess that Mr. Wolfe's line is from Pat O'Neil (Fairbairn-Sykes stud from Shanghai) through the First Special Service Force and the Commando Schools in Scotland. From what I read, there was a divergence when Fairbairn came to the US to teach Americans with Applegate and Sykes et al stayed in the UK to teach the Brits, Canadians and deployed Gringos. Its all pretty much the same stuff, and I have heard good things about Mr. Wolfe. As the Blade Master said previously, all roads lead back to Shanghai prior to the war.
Smokin Joe
05-26-2004, 08:45
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
My research indicates that Col. Applegate did not have to do with Defendo. It would seem that DEFENDU was what Fairbairn called his system fairly early on. I would guess that Mr. Wolfe's line is from Pat O'Neil (Fairbairn-Sykes stud from Shanghai) through the First Special Service Force and the Commando Schools in Scotland. From what I read, there was a divergence when Fairbairn came to the US to teach Americans with Applegate and Sykes et al stayed in the UK to teach the Brits, Canadians and deployed Gringos. Its all pretty much the same stuff, and I have heard good things about Mr. Wolfe. As the Blade Master said previously, all roads lead back to Shanghai prior to the war.
NDD,
I think you would love one of his classes. Its a "serious down and dirty no BS about it, we are going to fight hard and mean until the other guy is knocked out or dead." He had some great simple to master techniques on how to drop someone in less than 5 seconds. He teaches to have someone down and out (one way or another) before you can count to 1,2,3,4,5.
MAKE SURE YOU WEAR A CUP. Man my nuts still hurt after that class.
He demos some the stuff he taught in the seminar I took on his online video clips. Check it out.
I've studied a little of everything, jack of all trades master of none. I started early, a system called big brother monkey stomp. Good shit.
I was wondering if anyone has heard of this guy or his system. It looks interesting.
http://www.targetfocusweapons.com/
regards Mark
NousDefionsDoc
05-26-2004, 12:32
Originally posted by Valhal
I've studied a little of everything, jack of all trades master of none. I started early, a system called big brother monkey stomp. Good shit.
I was wondering if anyone has heard of this guy or his system. It looks interesting.
http://www.targetfocusweapons.com/
regards Mark
I don't know Mr. Larkin, but two observations:
1.I've spent years training some of the most elite commandos including US Navy SEALs, 'Green Berets', Delta Force, US Army Special Forces, US Marshals, FBI Hostage Rescue Units and others in just this type of system. sets off bells, whistles sirens to me.
2. He is far to pretty to be a Monkey Stomper.
Buyer Beware
You want tapes? Check out Jim Grover/Kelly McCann on Paladin Press. Very good Monkey Stomping. Carl Cestari tapes from the link on Gutter Fighting should be good as well, although I haven't seen them.
Team Sergeant
05-26-2004, 13:11
Roger and agree. When you see anything on the web that says what this guy is saying it’s most likely pure bullshit.
There’s a guy in Scottsdale I made remove the same sort of lies from his website and now he runs/owns a multi-million dollar shooting facility. Go figure.
Living off the hard earned reputations of SOF soldiers rates right up there with selling drugs to children.
Team Sergeant
CPTAUSRET
05-26-2004, 13:26
Originally posted by Team Sergeant
Living off the hard earned reputations of SOF soldiers rates right up there with selling drugs to children.
Team Sergeant
CONCUR, TOTALLY!
Terry
Eagle5US
05-26-2004, 13:35
Studied a little of a few (2 yrs Northwest Freestyle -Steve "Mad Dog" Curran), 2 years Tang Soo Do (didn't care too much), 1 year TWD (not real flexible-I sucked), 6 years Wing Chun Kung Fu-1 year as senior student (by far my most favorite), and now a re-introduction to Hei Wa Do / Yammani Ryu weapons for just over the past 2 years, Was Shodan as a Child / now I Senpai for the lower belts) - qualified for the Nationals this year till I blew out my knee :(
The monkey Stomping techniques have been a closely gaurded secret I have yet to unlock or find someone willing to part with.
Me thinks that Gary O'Neal probably held some of them while he beat me senseless. He would use me for his warm-ups before he fought Van Damme in "Cyborg".
Eagle
Sacamuelas
05-26-2004, 16:03
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Monkey Stomping is my style. My Master:
LOL....
I have studied and participated in this fighting style my entire life. Upon becoming an adult(16 w/fake ID, LOL), I began studying the art from some of the brightest and most experienced,well trained master's in the South. The sparring partner's names escape me, but the lessons learned from the victories and the few defeats have increased my appreciation for the science of the Monkey Stomping style. Just a few "dojo's" on my resume:
-Numerous lessons and seminars at the Pines Club just south of Wiggins, Ms.
-Untold and invaluable training sessions The Dutch Bar , Rodeo's, and the Dock in Jackson, Mississippi
- the Flora-Bama training facility on the Al/FL line in orange beach that is so dear and close to my heart
- Fat Harry's, Gold Mine, World Beat, Cat's Meow in New Orleans,La
- Honkey Tonk in Slidell, La.
From these master dojo's I have studied/observed/practiced/competed and strive to become a 6 THUMP level master monkey stomper. HaHa :lifter You boy's can keep your fancy color coordinated belts and girly robes. LOL
Sacamuelas
05-26-2004, 16:35
BEFORE this turns into a " I can kick your ass with my robes and fancy belt" reply contest... I am not saying that you can't learn to improve your skills and possibly improve your outcome from training in a formal style. I am more of a believer in the "Wild Dog" attitude that fighting to win requires (see pic below for my Master). They don't and can't give anyone that with a belt or piece of certification for attendance. When one combines the ancient art of "wild dog" and "monkey stomp", then pure fighters are born. HaHa
I am just saying that I have known VERY few people that practiced enough and learned truly valuable techniques that actually help them in a street/bar fight. I know they are out there... No need to tell me about it.
I am sure a master "wild dog-monkey stomper" further refined by one of these special forms of training would indeed be one bad mofo.
Roguish Lawyer
05-26-2004, 17:13
Are you claiming to be a bad ass, Saca?
LMAO :eek:
You realize that inflicting pain on defenseless folks in a chair with their mouth open hardly constitutes "Monkey Stomping" don't you ??
Weapon of choice:
Power drill
Insert Sock Bear comment of your choice Here:
DunbarFC
05-26-2004, 17:29
I actually studied for a time with Billy Blanks
Yes the Tae-bo guy
Loooooooooooong before tae-bo however
Basenshukai
05-26-2004, 18:10
- 17 yrs.
- Koryu Bujutsu
By the way, "The Gutterfighters" train some of the most "interesting" units in the US arsenal.
Bill Harsey
05-26-2004, 18:26
wow, lot's of martial arts training around here. After posting what I did last night I also got to remembering all the bruises, torn hamstring, stitches, hurt back, broken toes, dislocated finger, more stitches, big knots on shins, insteps and head, busted mouth, loose teeth, broken collar bone, torn up knee... No wonder I stay locked up in my shop by myself now. I think I'll keep it that way.
NousDefionsDoc
05-26-2004, 18:36
Originally posted by Air.177
You realize that inflicting pain on defenseless folks in a chair with their mouth open hardly constitutes "Monkey Stomping" don't you ??
Weapon of choice:
Power drill
Insert Sock Bear comment of your choice Here:
ROTFLMAO
Ambush Master
05-26-2004, 19:18
From a Guy Jones Perspective
Roguish Lawyer
05-26-2004, 19:27
Originally posted by Ambush Master
From a Guy Jones Perspective
LMAO!
Sacamuelas
05-26-2004, 23:43
Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Are you claiming to be a bad ass, Saca?
LMAO :eek:
LOL... Just having fun counselor. Me no bad ass, me try to use brain to win argument most times, me just listed the only type training I have had. It was very "realistic" though. haha
Bill Harsey- I didn't need to know what kind of formal training you had...I already know you are tough just from hearing your stories about your "Friends" that put raw meat in a fellow logger friend's tent so the bears will attack him just for "fun". HaHA
Kyobanim
05-27-2004, 07:26
Originally posted by Sacamuelas
I am just saying that I have known VERY few people that practiced enough and learned truly valuable techniques that actually help them in a street/bar fight. I know they are out there... No need to tell me about it.
That's because they are taught techniques but not how to commit to the fight.
Problem #2-
Potential Student - "I want to take classes to learn self defense."
Teacher - "Fine. How many times a week are you planning to come in?"
Potential Student - "I'll be here on Wednesday nights. That's my free night."
I've had occasion to use my self defense on 2 occasions, one resulted in a broken wrist to the drunk and the other was just bruised up. But I train 4 days a week several hours a day. People taking MA for self defense just don't do that.
Waste of money, IMO.
The same can be said for many things. Many people seem to run from commitment of any kind.
Moving out,
Solid
Bill Harsey
05-27-2004, 09:40
Originally posted by Sacamuelas
Bill Harsey- I didn't need to know what kind of formal training you had...I already know you are tough just from hearing your stories about your "Friends" that put raw meat in a fellow logger friend's tent so the bears will attack him just for "fun". HaHA It was funny, but in fairness to the judgement of my buddies they didn't actually put the meat in the tent, that would have been dangerous. The side of bacon was wired to his ankle and placed outside the tent which the bear drug off with owner of ankle going with it and not having as much fun as the guys watching.
Sacamuelas
05-27-2004, 10:11
Kyo-
That is exactly what I meant to express in my posts. Thanks for clarifying.
Bill-
Do you really think that explanation makes you or your buds seem calmer or more conservative? LOL You put raw meat ANYWHERE near me when I am sleeping in a tent out in bear country....and you will have witnessed my last day with you as a coworker! haha Throw in that whole "funny" part about wiring the meat to his leg and that is downright fookin crazy!! :D
Great story!!!
I don't know, Kyo--I'd say that if that person who only comes in once a week because that's all the time they can set aside has the right constitution (frame of mind, mindset, whatever catchphrase you prefer), those few hours a week may be enough. Tactics and techniques can make you more efficient, but its the determination to perservere that is most important.
Sacamuelas
05-27-2004, 11:11
Originally posted by Razor
has the right constitution (frame of mind, mindset, whatever catchphrase you prefer),
Uhhhh.... you mean my redneck terminology "wild dog" attitude:D
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
I don't know Mr. Larkin, but two observations:
1. sets off bells, whistles sirens to me.
2. He is far to pretty to be a Monkey Stomper.
Buyer Beware
You want tapes? Check out Jim Grover/Kelly McCann on Paladin Press. Very good Monkey Stomping. Carl Cestari tapes from the link on Gutter Fighting should be good as well, although I haven't seen them.
All the self hype did raise an eyebrow, but he got a huge endorsment from Matt Fury, author of Combat Conditioning which I own and think highly of. I've heard of Cestari, but not the other two. I'll check it out. Thanks for the info.
Mark
Kyobanim
05-27-2004, 11:33
Originally posted by Razor
I don't know, Kyo--I'd say that if that person who only comes in once a week because that's all the time they can set aside has the right constitution (frame of mind, mindset, whatever catchphrase you prefer), those few hours a week may be enough. Tactics and techniques can make you more efficient, but its the determination to perservere that is most important.
Indomitable spirit is what we call that in TKD. Yeah, I can agree that determination to perservere is important. But if you have to think about how to use the self defense in a situation then you've lost half the battle.
In most cases, the first 3 to 5 seconds are going to determine the outcome. Self defense practice should be done like you guys do reaction drills. It needs to be second nature if you plan to rely on it. If not, learn to become a great communicator. Sometimes the mouth is the best type of self defense.
Eagle5US
05-27-2004, 11:51
Watch the movie Lake Placed:
Fat guy:
My folks had lots of money...that means lots of Karate lessons...I have to warn you...
Sherrif:
Slams fist to fat guys nose...
Fat guy:
YOU DIDN'T SAY GO! You are supposed to say "GO!" first!!!
Tossing someone to the mat for 2 points in a tourney is 180 degrees fromtossing them to the pavement outside Bennigan's where he (or his 3 drunk Bud's coming to his rescue) may have knives, guns, pipes, irons, or whatever else is handy.
Agree...3-5 seconds, you opponent should be physically incapacitated (unable to fight) or unconscious and you unassing the AO. If you aren't willing to hurt someone, run early.
All the pretty "after poses" and whatnot can be left to the hollywood "practitioners"
Eagle
Bill Harsey
05-27-2004, 14:51
You guys are on the right track here, end the fight as it begins. Any training can be better than none but for guys especially they may have to unlearn a lot before they once again have useful skills. I was told that women can benifit from day one in martial arts training because they don't have to unlearn poor combat skills that lot's of guys have. That's why we trained the street fighters so hard, so we had a chance to know what they might do (thats supposed to be kinda funny...). I was always concerned that we trained real skills, not just tournament fighting. Oh for the good old days of bare knuckle full contact.
Krav Maga, level 2. It's the best deal I found in Houston. 99% Martial, 1% Arts.
Kyobanim
05-27-2004, 20:43
I've always wanted to learn but we've only got one guy in the Orlando area that teaches Krav Maga and I'm not too sure about his teaching abilities. He knows his stuff but doesn't appear to be able to communicate very well.
I feel the same way Eagle, knock their ass down and clea out. The only pose they'll see out of me is my backsideforwardmotion stance.
I think women are the easiest to teach self defense to also. One of the things I do is borrow one of their purses and dump it out on the floor, with their permission of course. Then proceed to show them how to use all those 'women' things they carry as a weapon.
DoctorDoom
06-03-2004, 06:46
Wing Chun, a few years, few times a week. Started doing some assistant teaching recently. Purely for the spiritual benefits.
Originally posted by Ambush Master
From a Guy Jones Perspective
I'm not a big guy...so I have been known to fight dirty.
Studied under Master Wolfe off of Yadkin Rd. for two years, then went and studied under Myong Mayes (the woman married to that SF guy) for over three years.
Won North and South Carolina TKD titles in the 80's.
I'm more of a avoidfu...runfu...sneakfu...gunfu type of guy! :D
Kyobanim
06-03-2004, 09:25
NDD's preferred martial art:
Seiuuki Inkan Jutsu - The art of Monkey Stompin
Sometimes I dont think the style is as important as how one trains. Most schools dont really hit...
If someone had no experience what so ever I would tell them to take boxing for six months with sparring and competition, then sambo or brazilian ju jitsu with compitition for about another six months.
I think they would be able to stand up against most so called "martial artists" in this country who've trained for years-
ccrn
Jack Moroney (RIP)
06-23-2004, 09:21
I'm more into monkey hanging than stomping.
brownapple
06-23-2004, 10:17
I started studying TKD when I was 12, spent some time doing TKD and Goju-Ryu and AKA all at the same time (had friends studying the other two, so we went to each others lessons/dojos), and then studied Kempo (met Chuck Norris at that dojo, he made a visit... around '77) for a while. Paid attention to the "Kill or be Killed" stuff at the same time, and once I entered the military stayed focused on that style.
NousDefionsDoc
06-27-2004, 21:43
Originally posted by D9
Krav Maga, level 2. It's the best deal I found in Houston. 99% Martial, 1% Arts.
Anybody else doing this? I've heard some good things.
NousDefionsDoc
06-27-2004, 21:43
Originally posted by Jack Moroney
I'm more into monkey hanging than stomping.
ROTFLMAO
Diapers in the club?
Kyobanim
07-04-2004, 10:49
Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Anybody else doing this? I've heard some good things.
I've been trying to find an instructor in CFL but there's only a couple and they're psychotic. We had them come to the school to do a seminar with a few of us. I realize the training is hard and set up to prepare you for the extreme but training for the first time with a double edged sharp blade was a little much for me.
Teach me how to do it then progress up to the real weapon. Just my opinion of course.
I thought about Combat Ki, there's a good instructor here in Orlando, but there's something about a person kicking me in the balls that I just can't justify in my mind. Must be age.
Kyobanim
07-04-2004, 10:50
It does look like an excellent self-defense if you get the right teacher though.
phantom1984
02-23-2009, 04:18
with my bad knees it took a while of conditioning but i studied for 20 years. I hold Black belts in what my instructor called Ninjutsu (don't really know if he was telling the truth or not) Tae Kwon do and Kenpo. By this time my knees were strong and i had no problems with them since. But The military doctors seeing my medical records still disquilified me from military service :confused:
IMHO - I would highly recommend Muay Thai. I've studied for about two years under a QP, who I believe is a member here. The fundamental techniques are easy and effective. The use of knee and elbow strikes are similar to those in Krav Maga.
frostfire
02-25-2009, 08:42
I thought about Combat Ki, there's a good instructor here in Orlando, but there's something about a person kicking me in the balls that I just can't justify in my mind. Must be age.
You would surely like this one then. Shaolin groin skill :D
5:44 onwards (copy and paste)youtube.com/watch?v=CUXB38ShMdw
Of all the skills, I can only do one. Not telling which one;)
[QUOTE=Bill Harsey;22017]Eight years Tang Soo Do with Chuck Norris,
TANG SOO!! Very good art! It has great kicking, derived from Soo Bak Do, (Korean Foot Fighting), and the hand techniques from Shotokan and Shito Ryu, (Japanese and Okinawan). The discipline that Hwang Kee incorporated in TSD's stances and forms is extremely hard to come by in the arts today. Very, very meticulous about technique. I trained TSD for 8 years also. My instructor and Mr. Norris have close ties; over in Korea together in the AF.
Taken seriously, and studied diligently in tradition, good traditional martial arts training is hard to beat.
My favorite subject.:cool:
Eagle5US
02-25-2009, 11:13
I hold Black belts in what my instructor called Ninjutsu (don't really know if he was telling the truth or not)
Ummmm...probably not a real good indication of your training, or teacher, if you can't trust what your "instructor" gave you a ranking in.
I'm just sayin...:confused:
Eagle
Curious to see if with the new "unlimited recruiting" will there now be "Bitch slapping", "Hair pulling" and "Face scratching" included in Military H2H.
Broadsword2004
02-06-2011, 04:18
So I wasn't sure if it warranted starting a new thread or not, but I was wondering, is there such a thing as actual "knife fighting?" Like as in two guys, each armed with a knife and nothing else, go at it and battle each other?
Edit: Here is an interesting article I found, seems such systems do exist, but they are very dangerous: http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/knifelies.html
So I wasn't sure if it warranted starting a new thread or not, but I was wondering, is there such a thing as actual "knife fighting?" Like as in two guys, each armed with a knife and nothing else, go at it and battle each other?
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/knifelies.html
Going back in time to the use of sharp rocks. Probably as many "systems" exist as do sharp rocks.
IMO, you should just learn where to cut and cut first.
The Reaper
02-06-2011, 09:37
So I wasn't sure if it warranted starting a new thread or not, but I was wondering, is there such a thing as actual "knife fighting?" Like as in two guys, each armed with a knife and nothing else, go at it and battle each other?
Not if there is a loaded gun around.
TR
ZonieDiver
02-06-2011, 10:05
Not if there is a loaded gun around.
TR
Or a baseball bat or big f#%king stick!
At Camp Mackall, our instructor ("Hand-to-Hand" Martin) used to insist that God invented sticks and rocks for just that purpose - to avoid "hand-to-hand" combat!
My step-father, who didn't teach me much - save for some pool, golf, and what beers NOT to drink - did tell me that "a knife is just something someone will take away from you and hurt you with." (Of course, he was in the Navy, so...)
Or a baseball bat or big f#%king stick!
At Camp Mackall, our instructor ("Hand-to-Hand" Martin) used to insist that God invented sticks and rocks for just that purpose - to avoid "hand-to-hand" combat!
My step-father, who didn't teach me much - save for some pool, golf, and what beers NOT to drink - did tell me that "a knife is just something someone will take away from you and hurt you with."
Especially in Apache Territory. And underwater.
Leozinho
02-06-2011, 15:13
So I wasn't sure if it warranted starting a new thread or not, but I was wondering, is there such a thing as actual "knife fighting?" Like as in two guys, each armed with a knife and nothing else, go at it and battle each other?
Edit: Here is an interesting article I found, seems such systems do exist, but they are very dangerous: http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/knifelies.html
Filipino Martial Arts do a lot of blade on blade training. You can search youtube for Pekiti, Sayoc, Atienza Kali, Dog Brothers for a look at guys going knife on knife. (Oh wait, I didn't see your edit. FWIW, these are the guys that the article you linked to argues against.)
Point taken about having a loaded gun. I carry, and I used to figure, as I think most do, that I'd be fine against an unarmed person. However, Southnarc and his crew have shown that just having a weapon isn't enough. In his force-on-force drills (called 'evos'), the bad guys take the gun away frequently.
Watch what happens 3 seconds into this video. http://www.vimeo.com/1072283
Brush Okie
02-06-2011, 22:25
Or a baseball bat or big f#%king stick!
At Camp Mackall, our instructor ("Hand-to-Hand" Martin) used to insist that God invented sticks and rocks for just that purpose - to avoid "hand-to-hand" combat!
...)
A frind of mine that showed me some H2H and was a black belt always said, " Karate is the last thing you use. Before that you use kabat, ka knife, ka chair ka gun etc" Seems like good advice to me.
Would one have the chance to test and be ranked(level 1-4) in "Army Combatives" before getting out of 11b AIT? I have been heavily involved in studying, teaching, and competing in martial arts for over 16 years. I currently help train up-and-coming MMA wanna-be UFC guys who are about 18-25. I can not wait for the H2H parts of basic and AIT and the opportunity to become certified in army combatives and maybe even compete in some army tournaments. I'll be 27 by time I'm out of OSUT and it's fun teaching the "young" guys a thing or two.
Would one have the chance to test and be ranked(level 1-4) in "Army Combatives" before getting out of 11b AIT? I have been heavily involved in studying, teaching, and competing in martial arts for over 16 years. I currently help train up-and-coming MMA wanna-be UFC guys who are about 18-25. I can not wait for the H2H parts of basic and AIT and the opportunity to become certified in army combatives and maybe even compete in some army tournaments. I'll be 27 by time I'm out of OSUT and it's fun teaching the "young" guys a thing or two.
Might be "fun" learning a thing or two, as well.
Started learning Kyokushin Karate when I was 12 just earned my Shodan(1st dan Black) in December under the IKO1 system.
I know a former QP from the 10th group through a forum who is now running his own school,very nice guy.
Started learning Kyokushin Karate when I was 12 t earned my Shodan(1st dan Black) in December under the IKO1 system.
I know a former QP from the 10th group through a forum who is now running his own school,very nice guy.
After all these years I still believe one should be strong in the basic kicks,punches,blocks,locks and throws.No flashy stuff like jump kicks,kata,aikido throws(seagal).
olhamada
03-17-2012, 13:38
Growing up, I was always the youngest kid in my peer group - usually 2 years younger - and thus usually the smallest - until I caught up in college. I was in at least a fight a week from 2nd grade till 8th, when I started taking martial arts. Spent a lot of time in the Principal's office but usually wasn't the one getting the licks. :lifter
I'm not sure what happened, maybe it was the way I carried myself or the look in my eyes that changed, but I haven't been in a fight since.
1st dan Black - Tae Kwon Do (Ku Ki Kwan), and Browns in Judo and Hapkido.
Growing up, I was always the youngest kid in my peer group - usually 2 years younger - and thus usually the smallest - until I caught up in college. I was in at least a fight a week from 2nd grade till 8th, when I started taking martial arts. Spent a lot of time in the Principal's office but usually wasn't the one getting the licks. :lifter
I'm not sure what happened, maybe it was the way I carried myself or the look in my eyes that changed, but I haven't been in a fight since.
1st dan Black - Tae Kwon Do (Ku Ki Kwan), and Browns in Judo and Hapkido.
Did you go to South Korea for the test?
olhamada
03-17-2012, 13:45
Did you go to South Korea for the test?
No, I was living in NY at the time and tested there. My sensei was S Korean and had been a Silver medalist in Judo in the Olympics - at least that's what he told us. Neat guy. But could really kick your ass if he got irritated.
No, I was living in NY at the time and tested there. My sensei was S Korean and had been a Silver medalist in Judo in the Olympics - at least that's what he told us. Neat guy. But could really kick your ass if he got irritated.
That is very nice,the US I must say has some of the best teachers in possibly all the martial arts styles.
Kyobanim
03-17-2012, 14:02
After all these years I still believe one should be strong in the basic kicks,punches,blocks,locks and throws.No flashy stuff like jump kicks,kata,aikido throws(seagal).
If you think katas are flashy stuff then you need to study harder. Katas are basic training for all levels. They are supposed to integrate everything you have learned to that point and teach you balance, breathing, etc. Anotherwords, the basics.
If you think katas are flashy stuff then you need to study harder. Katas are basic training for all levels. They are supposed to integrate everything you have learned to that point and teach you balance, breathing, etc. Anotherwords, the basics.
I respect your philosophy towards Kata's Sir,maybe someday I will appreciate them too.There was a time when I'd think it is good to be strong in jump kicks and all cause they look good it was a after getting my teeth knocked trying to use it in sparring that I realized the roundhouse kicks and other simple to use moves are best.Hopefully like that someday I hope I understand the importance Kata has.
Thank You.
When you say jump kicks are flashy.. do you mean like jumping back kick because I used that many times successfully in competition. Like all techniques, they have their place and need to be used at the right time.
When you say jump kicks are flashy.. do you mean like jumping back kick because I used that many times successfully in competition. Like all techniques, they have their place and need to be used at the right time.
No I meant the jumping side kick,360 degree kick,kicks mainly used in demo's -all those jumping kicks which the movies made so famous.
I do agree that some jumping kicks like the one's you mentioned are good and have their correct time and place of application.
If you think katas are flashy stuff then you need to study harder. Katas are basic training for all levels. They are supposed to integrate everything you have learned to that point and teach you balance, breathing, etc. Anotherwords, the basics.
He may be talking about The Flying Wolverine Kata. It takes 40 years to master, though...
He may be talking about The Flying Wolverine Kata. It takes 40 years to master, though...
But then it wouldn't be a Kata sir as it involves flying and that would make it Chinese.More than 40 years of Chinese Martial Arts cinema makes all other martial arts styles question themselves "Damn!!Can we ever fly like that??"
But then it wouldn't be a Kata sir as it involves flying and that would make it Chinese.More than 40 years of Chinese Martial Arts cinema makes all other martial arts styles question themselves "Damn!!Can we ever fly like that??"
No, the Chinese form is a bit more involved, and is called "Drunken, Flying Wolverine".
ZonieDiver
03-17-2012, 15:48
No, the Chinese form is a bit more involved, and is called "Drunken, Flying Wolverine".
And you must master that before you can even have a hope of mastering the "Spetnaz Shovel Kata"!
:D
If you think katas are flashy stuff then you need to study harder. Katas are basic training for all levels. They are supposed to integrate everything you have learned to that point and teach you balance, breathing, etc. Anotherwords, the basics.
Agreed, sir. If one is still on kata or one/ two/ three or four step sparring after 3-4 months, then one should train harder or move on to the next martial art...and the next and so on.
Agreed, sir. If one is still on kata or one/ two/ three or four step sparring after 3-4 months, then one should train harder or move on to the next martial art...and the next and so on.
Rex Kwon Do has a good six week program for only 300 bucks.
olhamada
03-17-2012, 22:16
"There are few problems on earth that cannot be solved by a swift roundhouse kick to the face. In fact there are none." - Chuck Norris
Rex Kwon Do has a good six week program for only 300 bucks.
$300? That is a bargain. I took the online accelerated 4 week black belt sifu masters course for $625, but it included suplemental DVD learning course of material not covered in the intro course, oh and free sparring pads, complete with chest protector...the same kind they use in the olympics! Oh, and I also recieved for $500 more a one on one lesson with the Grand Master, but I have to fly to Hong Kong to redeem it.:munchin
$300? That is a bargain. I took the online accelerated 4 week black belt sifu masters course for $625, but it included suplemental DVD learning course of material not covered in the intro course, oh and free sparring pads, complete with chest protector...the same kind they use in the olympics! Oh, and I also recieved for $500 more a one on one lesson with the Grand Master, but I have to fly to Hong Kong to redeem it.:munchin
Post pics of the pebble...
Post pics of the pebble...
The pebbles...that is part of the online instructors course. That is $1000. I havn't done that one yet. I'm still working on walking across the rice paper leaving no trace.
The Sheepdog
03-18-2012, 09:29
I can sell you reinforced rice paper...that way you will be guaranteed to pass. ;
I can sell you reinforced rice paper...that way you will be guaranteed to pass. ;
Hmm...I don't know. I would not want to do anything to upset sensei. I'll take three rolls.;)
Barbarian
03-19-2012, 09:49
Rex Kwon Do has a good six week program for only 300 bucks.
$300? That is a bargain.
Lol. Only if you're serious about becoming a pro "cage fighter.":D
Lol. Only if you're serious about becoming a pro "cage fighter.":D
I don't think there is much to gain fighting cages. Seriously though...just how much more advertising can they put on those speedos, er um shorts, I mean uniforms?:D
I don't think there is much to gain fighting cages. Seriously though...just how much more advertising can they put on those speedos, er um shorts, I mean uniforms?:D
Cage fighters wear Flag pants. Know anybody who wants a roundhouse kick to the face wearing those bad boys?
PedOncoDoc
03-19-2012, 12:46
I don't think there is much to gain fighting cages. Seriously though...just how much more advertising can they put on those speedos, er um shorts, I mean uniforms?:D
I always found it rather unfortunate that many of them had/have large advertisements for "Condom Depot" on their backsides. Kind of an unfortunate ad placement if you ask me. :rolleyes:
Barbarian
03-19-2012, 13:28
I don't think there is much to gain fighting cages.
Didn't watch "Napolean," huh? No big loss, there.
I always found it rather unfortunate that many of them had/have large advertisements for "Condom Depot" on their backsides. Kind of an unfortunate ad placement if you ask me.
Lol. Hadn't really noticed that until now. I was fairly interested in watching MMA sports in the beginning, but all the added drama, IMHO, overshadows any respectable qualities the organizations might have had.
Now, I think of it as something akin to "pro wrestling." Sort of a shame, since boxing is down the tubes these days.
Didn't watch "Napolean," huh? No big loss, there.
Lol. Hadn't really noticed that until now. I was fairly interested in watching MMA sports in the beginning, but all the added drama, IMHO, overshadows any respectable qualities the organizations might have had.
Now, I think of it as something akin to "pro wrestling." Sort of a shame, since boxing is down the tubes these days.
No, 'Mano-not in the case of Faber v. Cruz, Spider v. Chael or any time Clay Guida fights. Or most of the others, either.
I fought full contact and it's painful and real. Nothing like pro wrestling.
As for your blithely scathing reference to the Nappy Dyno movie, shame on you.
Flag pants? That is what they fit all those ads on, huh? Round house to the face is for people who need to learn to not block roundhouses with their faces.:D:munchin Probably hurts more with steel toe and heal boots on, but that would be pain beyond the friendly compitition pain in the gym or televised on FOX network...maybe they could show that on PPV.
Tommy Lee Jones would be so proud after watching this(heart,heart,lung)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELPl2gx1KcA&feature=related
Tommy Lee Jones would be so proud after watching this(heart,heart,lung)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELPl2gx1KcA&feature=related
More MMA type approach. IMHO I think this approach is a disservice to the MA student. I think a student should only study one style at a time. Essentially devote their life to it. This does not mean you can' t choose a different art to study at a later time, but study one at a time till you find both a great instructor and a single MA that you gravitate toward, like a force sucking you in.
Then learn that single MA forwards, backwards, up, down, sideways for a couple of decades. Devote your life to it and you will come away with a very indepth understanding of martial arts in general, mixed or not, regardless of style, because at those levels of training style is not important, and the distinctions of different styles and even technique (secret or not) tend to merge, and blend.
So better, again IMHO, to master one style in the years one puts into training, than trying to divide that time among many different styles because it is the latest fad, or based on TV pragramming, or what everyone else is doing.
Thanks for reading.
More MMA type approach. IMHO I think this approach is a disservice to the MA student. I think a student should only study one style at a time. Essentially devote their life to it. This does not mean you can' t choose a different art to study at a later time, but study one at a time till you find both a great instructor and a single MA that you gravitate toward, like a force sucking you in.
Then learn that single MA forwards, backwards, up, down, sideways for a couple of decades. Devote your life to it and you will come away with a very indepth understanding of martial arts in general, mixed or not, regardless of style, because at those levels of training style is not important, and the distinctions of different styles and even technique (secret or not) tend to merge, and blend.
So better, again IMHO, to master one style in the years one puts into training, than trying to divide that time among many different styles because it is the latest fad, or based on TV pragramming, or what everyone else is doing.
Thanks for reading.
OK. I'll make a deal. You kick Lyoto Machida's ass with one style, and I'll be your Grasshopper.
PedOncoDoc
03-25-2012, 10:08
More MMA type approach. IMHO I think this approach is a disservice to the MA student. I think a student should only study one style at a time. Essentially devote their life to it. This does not mean you can' t choose a different art to study at a later time, but study one at a time till you find both a great instructor and a single MA that you gravitate toward, like a force sucking you in.
Then learn that single MA forwards, backwards, up, down, sideways for a couple of decades. Devote your life to it and you will come away with a very indepth understanding of martial arts in general, mixed or not, regardless of style, because at those levels of training style is not important, and the distinctions of different styles and even technique (secret or not) tend to merge, and blend.
So better, again IMHO, to master one style in the years one puts into training, than trying to divide that time among many different styles because it is the latest fad, or based on TV pragramming, or what everyone else is doing.
Thanks for reading.
I would argue that the video showed a fighting style more than a martial art. The instructor did provide some discussion on philosophy and what-not, but from the limited demonstratoin and discussion provided in the clip, I don't see the art component of this. YMMV...
OK. I'll make a deal. You kick Lyoto Machida's ass with one style, and I'll be your Grasshopper.
There will always be someone bigger and badder around the corner. Even those who train in his approach can't always beat the #6 man. However, if we take a look at the masters who specialized in the arts they made famous, like Jigoro Kano and judo, we can clearly see a highly developed skill set that is not relying on brute force, swift kicks to the head, repetitive punches to the head on the ground which may or may not have an effect , or rules designed to keep a bout running for sake of spectators.
Even H. Gracie (taught by a couple of judo Black Belts who failed miserably when dispatched to the US to show the US Army some judo, and for shame could not return to Japan) was beaten in Brazil by Kimura.
Yet many would rather study Gracies BJJ, as opposed to actual judo, which Kimura was trained.
One style is all one needs. One technique can finish any fight. Finding the right one, and opportunity is the key.
I don't know, maybe I am a little old fashioned, I prefer mastery to a jack of all trades.
Also, as I study aikido, I realize that it is not the perfect style, and has its own shortcommings, but one can't begin to understand and deal with that until actually having spent time in an art.
There are no perfect styles, no perfect techniques...no perfect men, afterall.
No, I would not back down, if it was already too late for me to avoid conflict, or I happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time...oops.
Again, based on my observations and oppinions.
Besides, how do we know I could'nt learn a thing or two from you as well? Maybe I'd be your grasshopper!
I would argue that the video showed a fighting style more than a martial art. The instructor did provide some discussion on philosophy and what-not, but from the limited demonstratoin and discussion provided in the clip, I don't see the art component of this. YMMV...
Right, sir. Analogous to this: If I need to have a brain tumor excised, do I go to a GP MD? I think I would prefer a competent neuro surgeon who has specialized in that area of medicine to save my life.
Edit to add: preferably one in his/her sixties or seventies that has say more than a few under their belt.
One style is all one needs. One technique can finish any fight. Finding the right one, and opportunity is the key.
Sure, it can. Lyoto'll give you a shot, too. Ask Mr. Natural.
Maybe I'd be your grasshopper!
I'll give you a free lesson. Aikido is worthless unless your opponent attacks, Grasshopper. ;).
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Thanks for the lesson. I am here to learn as much as I can from the QPs on this forum. However, eventually in MA training one reaches a stage where there is no offense, there is no defense. To think that one has to sit around passively waiting to be attacked, I would suggest might be a misconception of this martial art. I have always studied and practiced martial art from a pro active stature.
This can come in many forms from attacking first, to aggrivating and taunting your opponent into attacking you first (inviting an attack so to speak, or appearing weak or like an easy target), but once the senses start processing that ones life is threatened, there is nothing passive or of a waiting nature about it.
One may also think aikido does not involve kicks, and I will admit I can't kick for beans, but I use them as part of my atemi/striking when I can.
The beauty of a complete style of MA is, IMHO, there is so much to learn that it is impossible to know it all, or achieve complete mastery.
This is just based on my own understanding and training in the martial arts, the most of which has been aikido.
Thanks for the lesson. I am here to learn as much as I can from the QPs on this forum. However, eventually in MA training one reaches a stage where there is no offense, there is no defense. To think that one has to sit around passively waiting to be attacked, I would suggest might be a misconception of this martial art. I have always studied and practiced martial art from a pro active stature.
This can come in many forms from attacking first, to aggrivating and taunting your opponent int attacking you first, but once the senses start processing that ones life is threatened, theteis nothing passive or of a waiting nature about it.
One may also think aikido does not involve kicks, and I will admit I can't kick for beans, but I use them as part of my atemi/striking when I can.
The beauty of a complete style of MA is, IMHO, there is so much to learn that it is impossible to know it all, or achieve complete mastery.
This is just based on my own understanding and training in the martial arts, the most of which has been aikido.
OK, I give up-on the condition that you watch Napolean Dynamite up until the part where Napolean pulls his brother home from Rex Kwon Do's introductory lesson.
OK, I give up-on the condition that you watch Napolean Dynamite up until the part where Napolean pulls his brother home from Rex Kwon Do's introductory lesson.
I'll watch it, just please don't arrange a bout between me and Machida...I like my face just the way it is!
OK, I give up-on the condition that you watch Napolean Dynamite up until the part where Napolean pulls his brother home from Rex Kwon Do's introductory lesson.
Hanging out with my nephews today, they have the dvd, so I'll check it out. :munchin
Hanging out with my nephews today, they have the dvd, so I'll check it out. :munchin
"First off, at Rex Kwon Do, we use the buddy system! No more flyin' solo!"
:D:D
Ha! Now I get it...round house kick to face in these bad boys. :rolleyes:
Didn't watch "Napolean," huh? No big loss, there.
And I forgot to mention the cage fighting scene. Thanks for bringing me up to speed, gents.
This one is still my favorite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAfcPatBL3s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9GkIHyhtKU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
(Joe Piscapo...he is also an awesome drummer.)
pjbluetogreen
04-14-2012, 01:25
Over the past several years I have been training in Krav Maga, Very functional and reality based.
The First guys I trained with in Krav were of a mind set that got me sold on it, "the only unfair fight is the one that you lose". Great mind set to have in a fight.
GratefulCitizen
04-19-2012, 22:46
Over the past several years I have been training in Krav Maga, Very functional and reality based.
The First guys I trained with in Krav were of a mind set that got me sold on it, "the only unfair fight is the one that you lose". Great mind set to have in a fight.
In a fair fight, the younger, stronger, more athletic guy will usually win.
Because of this, you will never find an old experienced guy in a fair fight.
If he's in one, it's unfair -- to his advantage -- and he knows it.
In a fair fight, the younger, stronger, more athletic guy will usually win.
Because of this, you will never find an old experienced guy in a fair fight.
If he's in one, it's unfair -- to his advantage -- and he knows it.
BANG! "Don't move or I'll shoot."
BANG! "Don't move or I'll shoot."
Why mince words?
The Sheepdog
04-20-2012, 08:21
...fair fight...
That is a great example of an oxymoron. ;)
In a fair fight, the younger, stronger, more athletic guy will usually win.
Because of this, you will never find an old experienced guy in a fair fight.
If he's in one, it's unfair -- to his advantage -- and he knows it.
That's not fair at all.
greenberetTFS
04-20-2012, 10:11
When I was in the 77th,I had a little judo training not much on attacking,but i really learned how to fall,my first 10 1 hr sessions were just on falling....... :rolleyes:
Big Teddy :munchin
When I was in the 77th,I had a little judo training not much on attacking,but i really learned how to fall,my first 10 1 hr sessions were on just falling....... :rolleyes:
Big Teddy :munchin
That technique worked out well for Zimmerman.
Okay, QP Dusty...and group...my money is here...feeling comfey enough here on PS.com to share a video of me back in 2008. Thanks for letting me be a part. It is about 8 minutes. I think it might be my 2nd degree exam...not 100% sure...
It is linked to my website. Still have a few things to work on. But give me a break, I was 39 at the time.(I know, no excuse. My avitar comes up/plays in.)
http://doggy-pals.com/aikividjan08.html
greenberetTFS
05-06-2012, 12:29
Big Teddy :munchin