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Peregrino

03-28-2006, 14:19

My photo-fu is weak, but I pulled the Super 90 out to clean today, saw this, and brought some others. The AR15's are a little light, but getting export permits for rail systems isn't the easiest thing to do up here.

Here we go!

Edit: taking some Uni girls shooting next week, I'll try and take pics for you magician :D

I'm impressed. Nice collection, how often are you allowed to play with it? Truthfully I didn't know the People's Socialist Democratic Workers Republic of Canada allowed its subjects to own toys like that. Just goes to show how ignorant we can be about other's circumstances (yes I freely and proudly admit to my biases/prejudices). Peregrino

Team Sergeant

03-28-2006, 14:20

In deference to the good Major, I'm hereby making it a double-dog dare. :munchin

Magician,

Don't do it!!!!!!!!!! (unless it's "G" rated)
We'll get sued!:eek:

TS

Roguish Lawyer

03-28-2006, 14:21

Magician,

Don't do it!!!!!!!!!! (unless it's "G" rated)
We'll get sued!:eek:

TS

How about PG-13? ;)

Team Sergeant

03-28-2006, 14:25

How about PG-13? ;)

How about a banning?:lifter

Roguish Lawyer

03-28-2006, 14:27

How about a banning?:lifter

Sorry Major, but the Team Sergeant has spoken. :boohoo :D

Chris

03-28-2006, 14:29

I'm impressed. Nice collection, how often are you allowed to play with it? Truthfully I didn't know the People's Socialist Democratic Workers Republic of Canada allowed its subjects to own toys like that. Just goes to show how ignorant we can be about other's circumstances (yes I freely and proudly admit to my biases/prejudices). Peregrino

The 'Shop of Horrors' that is the Canadian Firearms Center makes most of it up as they go along. Hopefully, the new Conservative :lifter Government will get rid of that, as promised.

The range I go to is an 24/7 outdoor range, large facilities, 8 individual ranges for rifle/shotgun/practical (IDPA/IPSC type stuff) a trap range, and what is essentially a 360 course of fire sand pit. I go once/twice a week and shoot the matches on a Saturday. However, since reading posts here I'm dry firing every day (following TS's advice) with my Glock *not pictured* (not following TS's advice) :p although a USP .40 would be great if I could find a used one.)

Peregrino

03-28-2006, 14:44

The 'Shop of Horrors' that is the Canadian Firearms Center makes most of it up as they go along. Hopefully, the new Conservative :lifter Government will get rid of that, as promised.

The range I go to is an 24/7 outdoor range, large facilities, 8 individual ranges for rifle/shotgun/practical (IDPA/IPSC type stuff) a trap range, and what is essentially a 360 course of fire sand pit. I go once/twice a week and shoot the matches on a Saturday. However, since reading posts here I'm dry firing every day (following TS's advice) with my Glock *not pictured* (not following TS's advice) :p although a USP .40 would be great if I could find a used one.)

Good luck with the new government. If they can clean up even a little of the mess the socialists have made it'll be a miracle. Your range sounds like a nice facility. How long before you can put the skis away and get out the hip waders? Are the mosquitos really large enough that you need the Bennelli? :munchin Peregrino

Chris

03-28-2006, 14:54

Good luck with the new government. If they can clean up even a little of the mess the socialists have made it'll be a miracle. Your range sounds like a nice facility. How long before you can put the skis away and get out the hip waders? Are the mosquitos really large enough that you need the Bennelli? :munchin Peregrino

White stuff is gone thank goodness, shooting in -4F is a morale killer. (Unless you're 10th Group - I hear they like it that way.)

Mosquitos ain't nothin, but the Northern Ontario black flies will pick a man apart in 60 seconds (match that, FS). Thats why I pack the M1.

HOLLiS

03-28-2006, 15:20

It is a Little old a '73 Winchester, that I rebuilt... it was a boat anchor. Opps I need to reduce the file size, BBL

rubberneck

03-28-2006, 15:30

The first gun started it's life as a plain jane Springfield. It had a bunch of work done to it by George Smith at EGW.

The second gun is a 9MM and was built by Virgil Tripp on a Caspian slide and frame.

I picked up an FN Hi-Power MKIII in 40 S&W today and will try and take some pictures of it when I get a chance. I won't bother to take picks of my other guns. If you have seen one stock Glock or XD you have seen them all.

HOLLiS

03-28-2006, 16:12

OK it is resized

The Reaper

03-28-2006, 16:21

Roguish Lawyer

03-28-2006, 16:22

Nice SMLE.

TR

C'mon, TR, unleash hell in this thread! :munchin

Chris

03-28-2006, 17:52

Nice SMLE.

TR

Thanks, its a Lithgow stamped '43, Stock/Action SN's match, so does the bayonet.

C'mon, TR, unleash hell in this thread! :munchin

I think we all want to see the armories of TR, TS, and AM. They're probably not done unloading since you posted though. :cool:

The Reaper

03-28-2006, 19:19

C'mon, TR, unleash hell in this thread! :munchin

Sorry, I will pass on that.

Plenty of people have seen mine already.

TR

militarymoron

03-28-2006, 20:20

5703nothing high speed or special here - just a couple of my favourite plinkers in 9mm. the G19 i've had since '90, and it's been my main hiking/camping/anything gun. i had the sudden urge to refinish it a couple of weeks ago (it was looking a bit ratty and rubberneck is right - stock glocks are boring), so i sprayed the slide in OD alumahyde II and the frame in coyote. the added grip pattern i had done with a soldering iron. scott warren sights.
good old BHP with some cylinder and slide parts, grip tape, spiegal rosewood grips.
cheers,
MM

Huey14

03-28-2006, 20:34

Thanks, its a Lithgow stamped '43, Stock/Action SN's match, so does the bayonet.

That would make it a No4 I think?

I plan on getting one for myself when I get back. It's number one on my list.

gunnerjohn

03-28-2006, 20:47

Chris

03-28-2006, 21:09

About time the resident Aussie shows up :D

It turns out I lied, its 1942. No. III

Pic of receiver stamp.

Huey14

03-28-2006, 22:29

About time the resident Aussie shows up :D

Watch it, Yank ;) :p

t turns out I lied, its 1942. No. III

Pic of receiver stamp.

Ahhh. Very nice regardless. Apparantly there's a certain technique to firing it and you can get a better rate of fire than the Gerry semis we were up against in North Africa.

The Reaper

03-28-2006, 22:33

Apparantly there's a certain technique to firing it and you can get a better rate of fire than the Gerry semis we were up against in North Africa.

I had no idea you were old enough to be a veteran of that campaign.

Congratulations.

TR

Huey14

03-28-2006, 23:05

Alright, boss.

"We" withdrawn and replaced with "New Zealand troops".

CoLawman

03-28-2006, 23:46

Could not resist bringing out the nasty raunchy stuff!

"The American" Double Action

Please click on the link below only if you are 18 years of age or older.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f222/colawman/IMG_0623.jpg

CoLawman

03-29-2006, 00:01

Has not been shot for 35 years which was the last time my father took it deer hunting.

12B4S

03-29-2006, 01:16

Wow!

Not even two days and y'all behaved! Sort of. I will too. Didn't so much when I was in, but older and wiser now. :rolleyes: However. A couple weeks ago at the range, I did see some hot chick firing her boy friend's M4. Sexy sight. If I had a digital camera and had it with me, I would have taken some shots and posted them RL. Always fun to mess with the rules. Plus it was coldish that day. ;)

magician

03-29-2006, 01:30

Ok... you wanted Gun Porn... How about what has been described as my Pimp Gun. This is one that I built from one of the few stainless steel STI recon frames ever manufactured. If has a very long list of high end parts and shoots as great as it looks. Yes I went with a blue grip section, but that can be changed easily. Enjoy

Uh.....nice lavender grips and mag bumpers.

Do they match your pumps and purse?

(Sorry--I could not resist).

:)

Plus it was coldish that day.

Let me guess.

She had raisins in her shirt?

I hate when that happens.

:)

TFM

03-29-2006, 03:40

Ok... you wanted Gun Porn... How about what has been described as my Pimp Gun. This is one that I built from one of the few stainless steel STI recon frames ever manufactured. If has a very long list of high end parts and shoots as great as it looks. Yes I went with a blue grip section, but that can be changed easily. EnjoyVery original. It reminds me of this insane rifle I saw at a gun show that had a blue receiver similar to that while the rest was stainless save for the stock, which was bizarre in itself. Hardly tactical but goreous. More porn please.

Chris

03-29-2006, 07:54

Watch it, Yank ;) :p

Ahhh. Very nice regardless. Apparantly there's a certain technique to firing it and you can get a better rate of fire than the Gerry semis we were up against in North Africa.

I don't know about faster than the semi's, but as for firing technique I've heard about one alternative. May or may not be what you're thinking of.

For a right handed shooter: Trigger finger is relocated to the bolt, and the middle finger becomes the trigger finger. This way, the bolt is ready for manipulation immediately after the trigger is squeezed. It is a bit awkward at first, but works well with practice. (doesn't everything?)

Pete

03-29-2006, 10:01

I'll try this.

It worked. The new baby is on the bottom. Bonus points for getting second from the top.

The Reaper

03-29-2006, 10:07

I'll try this.

It worked. The new baby is on the bottom. Bonus points for getting second from the top.

New baby is an '03 Springfield, looks like the second from the top is a Mosin Nagant.

Watch it, Yank ;) :p

Ahhh. Very nice regardless. Apparantly there's a certain technique to firing it and you can get a better rate of fire than the Gerry semis we were up against in North Africa.

The Germans had no significant numbers of semi-auto rifles in North Africa. After the G41s failed in testing, the G43 was the next German semi, and it was not issued to the Afrika Corps. German troops used primarily the bolt-action K98 rifle.

Just wanted to set the record straight.:D

TR

Pete

03-29-2006, 10:27

New baby is an '03 Springfield, looks like the second from the top is a Moisin Nagant.

TR

The top one is the Moisin Nagant. They both have side mounted bayonets. The Moisin Nagant's is more spike like while the second one is a blade.

Hint: it fires the Spitzgeschoss version of the 8x57J (modified from the standard 8x57J)

HOLLiS

03-29-2006, 10:41

Nice, I have a blued one. it was my Great G-fathers in my safe.

TR thank you. that 73 was a boat anchor when I picked it up. it started life out as a long rifle but was Carbine-ize via hack saw. Only part I had to replace was the magazine tube, it was cut to short. Also it had custom checking,
:D

Here is a little in to the work picture.

Could not resist bringing out the nasty raunchy stuff!

"The American" Double Action

Please click on the link below only if you are 18 years of age or older.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f222/colawman/IMG_0623.jpg

The Reaper

03-29-2006, 10:50

The top one is the Moisin Nagant. They both have side mounted bayonets. The Moisin Nagant's is more spike like while the second one is a blade.

Hint: it fires the Spitzgeschoss version of the 8x57J (modified from the standard 8x57J)

Mauser Gewehr 88 (Commission Rifle)?

TR

HOLLiS

03-29-2006, 11:22

Mauser Gewehr 88 (Commission Rifle)?

TR

Sure looks like one, you have a good eye. I have a '88 and compared it to the picure, Sure looks like it, mine is not as nice.

Razor

03-29-2006, 12:03

Sorry, its already been done.

Yes, pun intended. :p

Pete

03-29-2006, 12:12

Mauser Gewehr 88 (Commission Rifle)?

TR

HOLLiS and TR got it.

I have some work to do this afternoon and my guns are kinda' stored by round type. I'll shuffle stuff around after supper and post WW II around 8:00PM Eastern. We'll see who can ID them all from top to bottom.

WW II might be just a tad bit harder for some.

Pete

Tuukka

03-29-2006, 12:13

Old and new.

The Reaper

03-29-2006, 12:17

Old and new.

Tuukka:

You are the best tourism promoter that I know.

Gotta love a country that trusts and believes in its citizens that much!

As always, nice gear.

TR

HOLLiS

03-29-2006, 12:26

Pete, I was just following TR's lead. Originally I passed it off as a mosin nagant variant. That is a nice rifle, I don't have a cleaning rod or sling. If you see one let me know, maybe even a bayonet. Thank you.

HOLLiS and TR got it.

I have some work to do this afternoon and my guns are kinda' stored by round type. I'll shuffle stuff around after supper and post WW II around 8:00PM Eastern. We'll see who can ID them all from top to bottom.

WW II might be just a tad bit harder for some.

Pete

Tuukka

03-29-2006, 12:35

The Reaper

03-29-2006, 12:38

TR, in a general sense our gun laws are reasonable, if you can call them like that.

The good thing is that guns are rooted in the culture and generally people do not view them as "evil" as they do in some other countries on this side of the pond.

On tourism, the best parts are the long cold winters, short warm summers and plenty of beautiful women.

The first, I suspect, would be intolerable were it not for the last.

Great history, especially in holding off the Red Army.

How do Finns feel about American visitors?

TR

MAB32

03-29-2006, 16:37

Not a good picture to say the least. My three amigos.:)

Pete

03-29-2006, 16:45

Not a good picture to say the least. My three amigos.:)

I have a soft spot for the one on the bottom.

MAB32

03-29-2006, 17:33

Yah, I do to. For wood and steel she cannot be beat IMHO. She has never failed to feed, fire, or eject in the 10 years of owned her and she is always right on at 100 yards with any ammo that I feed her. The SLR though is my second favorite with the XM being my "baby". The XM is what I use during Living History.

Pete

03-29-2006, 18:22

Do you know them all?

The Reaper

03-29-2006, 18:38

Do you know them all?

Top to bottom:

M1 Garand
M1 Carbine
SMLE
Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine
Mannlicher Carcano M1938 Short Rifle
Mauser KAR 98K
Arisaka Type 38 Shortened Rifle

TR

Chris

03-29-2006, 18:38

The Garand is always on top :lifter

Pete

03-29-2006, 18:44

Arisaka Carbine

TR

I though that one would take a few more minutes. Taken as a war prize it has a small brass plate on the back with the details. Somebody was right proud of it and must of hung it over a fire place for years as the wood is about as dry as dust.

Pete

RL how we doing on the PORN?

HOLLiS

03-29-2006, 18:46

I am with TR, except the model of mannlicher through me, I have a streight pull. I was going to quess Mannlicher and leave it at that.

What country is your 98k from. I have a WWII 98K, but it has streight bolt.

I have a friends who knows a lot about Arisaka, He brought a couple over for me to look at. Sadly I have never had a interest in Japanese firearms.

Pete

03-29-2006, 18:52

What country is your 98k from. I have a WWII 98K, but it has streight bolt.

Germany 1938. Most of the straight bolt handle Mausers were from the eastern countries. Then there are the Spanish 48s that look just like the eastern 98Ks. Around that time about 90% of rifles had "Mauser" actions.

Pete

Roguish Lawyer

03-29-2006, 19:04

RL how we doing on the PORN?

YOU are doing GREAT! And some others too. But I am seeing a handful of posters carry the load for the group, which is not what I thought went on in SF . . . :munchin

Bob1984

03-29-2006, 19:05

Do you know them all?

From top to bottom:

M1 Garand
M1 Carbine
Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk 1
Mosin-Nagant M1944 Carbine
Mannlicher-Carcano M38 Carbine
Mauser Kar98K
Japanese Arisaka, looks like it has a Type 38 stock combined with a shortened forend. The location and type of barrel bands is different from those on the Type 99 and more similar to those on the Type 38.

Roguish Lawyer

03-29-2006, 19:09

I don't have much to post, but here is something:

HOLLiS

03-29-2006, 19:16

Germany 1938. Most of the straight bolt handle Mausers were from the eastern countries. Then there are the Spanish 48s that look just like the eastern 98Ks. Around that time about 90% of rifles had "Mauser" actions.

Pete

Thanks Pete, sorry I am not with it, not feeling too good, so here are a few that I don't need to explain.

Pete

03-29-2006, 19:20

Japanese Arisaka, looks like it has a Type 38 stock combined with a shortened forend. The location and type of barrel bands is different from those on the Type 99 and more similar to those on the Type 38.

I have a second Arisaka. It's a junker. Just about only a stock, barrel, reciever and part of the bolt. It is similar in length but the barrel band is thicker and located farther back about half way to the rear sight. Even though it's a junker it appears to have inferior workmanship, maybe a late war production.

Pete

Chris

03-29-2006, 19:27

YOU are doing GREAT! And some others too. But I am seeing a handful of posters carry the load for the group, which is not what I thought went on in SF . . . :munchin

TR said he wouldn't show his. :boohoo

Edit - Disclaimer: I am in no way shape or form advocating RL's stated beliefs to the operations of SF or SF personnel. :eek:

Roguish Lawyer

03-29-2006, 19:30

TR said he wouldn't show his. :boohoo

Edit - Disclaimer: I am in no way shape or form advocating RL's stated beliefs to the operations of SF or SF personnel. :eek:

As much as I'd like to see more of TR's arsenal, he is the last person to be criticized for not posting lots of good photos on this site. Now some of these others . . . ;)

Chris

03-29-2006, 19:32

As much as I'd like to see more of TR's arsenal, he is the last person to be criticized for not posting lots of good photos on this site. Now some of these others . . . ;)

TR's photos are indeed appreciated, along with the knob creek accessories. :cool:

The Reaper

03-29-2006, 19:45

I have a second Arisaka. It's a junker. Just about only a stock, barrel, reciever and part of the bolt. It is similar in length but the barrel band is thicker and located farther back about half way to the rear sight. Even though it's a junker it appears to have inferior workmanship, maybe a late war production.

Pete

As Bob noted, the one you had looked like a Type 38 rear, but the front end and stock are not correct for the 38 Carbine. It is not a 44 or a 99 either. That is why I called it a short rifle.

Just a wannabe weapons man here.

I have burned enough of the TS's bandwidth with my weapons photos for now, some of the other guys need to step up. Pete, very nice collection, thanks for sharing. Yours too Hollis.

TR

vsvo

03-29-2006, 20:04

Pete and HOLLiS, nice collections. Thanks everyone for sharing.

FS, nice pistols. First pic, is that some type of jewelry box or musicbox?

Pete

03-29-2006, 20:25

As Bob noted, the one you had looked like a Type 38 rear, but the front end and stock are not correct for the 38 Carbine. It is not a 44 or a 99 either. That is why I called it a short rifle.

TR

Here is the good one and the junker side by side. The top one is 41 3/4" and the lower one is 38".

Near as I can figure the lower one is the Meiji 38th Year Type Carbine. On the other one, beats the heck out of me. It looks right close to the 30th/38th Year Rifles. Stock to the 30th and sight to the 38th but it is shortened by about 4ish inches between the barrel bands. Distance between barrel bands seem to cut out the Type 99 Rifle/Carbine.

I'm not that up on rifles from Japan.

CoLawman

03-29-2006, 20:40

Top to bottom:

M1 Garand
M1 Carbine
SMLE
Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine
Mannlicher Carcano M1938 Short Rifle
Mauser KAR 98K
Arisaka Type 38 Shortened Rifle

TR

Just for clarification.....TR posted his response in 16 minutes. :eek:

MAB32

03-29-2006, 20:45

I'll play. Starting from the top:

1) M1 Garand
2) M1 Carbine
3) No. 4 Mk.1 (or 2)
4) Mosin-Nagant M1944
5) Model 1891 (This wouldn't surprise me if was a "variant" between two other Italian rifles).
6) Model 98 (looks like it may be a little too long for a 98k)
7) This is ( I am hoping) a Japanese manufactured rifle from WWII. I will go with an "early (before the war) manufactured Type 99 in 7.7mm caliber.

The Italian and Japanese rifles look as though they were built either before WWII or very shortly after it began. They both look as though quality control was good at the time of build.

Looks like Im a little late...

The Reaper

03-29-2006, 20:59

Here is the good one and the junker side by side. The top one is 41 3/4" and the lower one is 38".

Near as I can figure the lower one is the Meiji 38th Year Type Carbine. On the other one, beats the heck out of me. It looks right close to the 30th/38th Year Rifles. Stock to the 30th and sight to the 38th but it is shortened by about 4ish inches between the barrel bands. Distance between barrel bands seem to cut out the Type 99 Rifle/Carbine.

I'm not that up on rifles from Japan.

Bottom one is definitely a Type 38 Carbine.

Just for clarification.....TR posted his response in 16 minutes. :eek:

Sorry, I was on another task for the first ten minutes.

I'll play. Starting from the top:

1) M1 Garand
2) M1 Carbine
3) No. 4 Mk.1 (or 2)
4) Mosin-Nagant M1944
5) Model 1891 (This wouldn't surprise me if was a "variant" between two other Italian rifles).
6) Model 98 (looks like it may be a little too long for a 98k)
7) This is ( I am hoping) a Japanese manufactured rifle from WWII. I will go with an "early (before the war) manufactured Type 99 in 7.7mm caliber.

The Italian and Japanese rifles look as though they were built either before WWII or very shortly after it began. They both look as though quality control was good at the time of build.

Looks like Im a little late...

No worries, the previous two to get it were just a little help to you.

BTW, 5 was definitely a 1938 Short Rifle, and I think that the Mauser is clearly a KAR 98K due to the short length between the sling swivel band and the forend cap.

TR

Gene Econ

03-29-2006, 21:59

Guys and Gals:

OK -- so where are the guns?

Five, six, rifles only? A couple of pistolitas? Lord Have Mercy.

I know most of you own just a few more than a couple.

Gene

HOLLiS

03-29-2006, 22:06

Guys and Gals:

OK -- so where are the guns?

Five, six, rifles only? A couple of pistolitas? Lord Have Mercy.

I know most of you own just a few more than a couple.

Gene

What type of pistol would you like to see? Shotguns? Drillings? deactivated nasties?

Huey14

03-29-2006, 22:38

The Germans had no significant numbers of semi-auto rifles in North Africa. After the G41s failed in testing, the G43 was the next German semi, and it was not issued to the Afrika Corps. German troops used primarily the bolt-action K98 rifle.

Just wanted to set the record straight.:D

TR

You know I don't mind the record being set straight :D

I was told it by an ex army fellow so I assumed (yep, there's the problem) it would be correct. If I find him he'll be buying.

I don't know about faster than the semi's, but as for firing technique I've heard about one alternative. May or may not be what you're thinking of.

For a right handed shooter: Trigger finger is relocated to the bolt, and the middle finger becomes the trigger finger. This way, the bolt is ready for manipulation immediately after the trigger is squeezed. It is a bit awkward at first, but works well with practice. (doesn't everything?)

That could be it. Interesting way to shoot, though.

gunnerjohn

03-29-2006, 22:51

Ok... here are a few more... Yes they get addicting

JJ

Pete

03-30-2006, 05:24

The Arisaka series of rifles are based on a Mauser action but they did have one unique feature. A two piece stock. Must be because of small trees in Japan or using every bit of the big ones.

If you look close at the top one you can see a fine line at the same place where the lower one is missing.

Pete

Addition: OK, I did a little looking. Both have the Chrysanthenum stamp on the upper reciever. Both have a clear "Type" stamp followed by the same looking "8" stamp ie ")(" and what looks like a "3" stamp (three lines). The beater has the Nagoya Arsenal stamp on the side with the seriel number and the good one has the Koishikawa (1870-1935) or Kokura (1936--) Arsenal stamp with the seriel number.

That's about as far as I can go. Need an expert here Boss.

jatx

03-30-2006, 07:58

Ok... here are a few more... Yes they get addicting

JJ

Very nice!

How do you like the STI VIP? Is it reliable? Any problems with mags?

gunnerjohn

03-30-2006, 08:54

That is not a VIP. That is a SVI aluminum frame with caspian slide and a lot more goodies. I built that gun about 4 years before STI came out with their model. Light, accurate and effecient.

HOLLiS

03-30-2006, 09:54

Ok... here are a few more... Yes they get addicting

JJ

Yes, they sure do get addicting. One reason I can go to three gun shows in a row, when broke, just to look at all the nice toys. Nice firearms.

The Reaper

03-30-2006, 10:00

Where's the hammer on the P7? :confused:

I wouldn't have thought you were ugly enough to scare the bullets to ignition through the hole. ;)

M

You are digging a deep hole with Ms. FS, calling her ugly may require an apology or rendering of services. A few weeks as an assistant shipping associate may work, but if she invites you into the basement, run for your life.

There is no hammer on a P7, squeezing the grip (cocking lever) pulls the firing pin (actually, seems more like a striker to me) into a cocked position.

Good luck.

TR

Roguish Lawyer

03-30-2006, 11:01

Guys and Gals:

OK -- so where are the guns?

Five, six, rifles only? A couple of pistolitas? Lord Have Mercy.

I know most of you own just a few more than a couple.

Gene

:munchin

The Reaper

03-30-2006, 12:34

Anyone with a line on a decent 03A3, particularly with a C stock, drop me a PM if you would.

TR

HOLLiS

03-30-2006, 15:03

Anyone with a line on a decent 03A3, particularly with a C stock, drop me a PM if you would.

TR

Our shows near me are over (Oregon) for now, there seem to have been plenty of 03's and 03A3s, at least more than normal. IF I go to another one, I will try to grab the card of the seller for you. Saw a real nice rebarreled 03, maybe a total 10 03s and 03A3s.

The Reaper

03-30-2006, 15:09

Our shows near me are over (Oregon) for now, there seem to have been plenty of 03's and 03A3s, at least more than normal. IF I go to another one, I will try to grab the card of the seller for you. Saw a real nice rebarreled 03, maybe a total 10 03s and 03A3s.

Thanks HOLLiS. I have some gaps in my collection. An 03A3 with a C stock is what I want.

I also need a Trapdoor Springfield, a Krag, and a P17.

TR

Martin

03-30-2006, 15:23

You are digging a deep hole with Ms. FS, calling her ugly may require an apology or rendering of services. A few weeks as an assistant shipping associate may work, but if she invites you into the basement, run for your life.

There is no hammer on a P7, squeezing the grip (cocking lever) pulls the firing pin (actually, seems more like a striker to me) into a cocked position.

Good luck.

TR
Thanks, Sir!

Have promised to FS first reply on the part about her, in different thread. She did not rack her shotgun, though. It was not the smoothest joke uttered...

M

one-zero

03-30-2006, 17:46

You may know the family of this one...but it's not quite what it seems.
1-0

The Reaper

03-30-2006, 17:59

You may know the family of this one...but it's not quite what it seems.
1-0

Kalashnikov family, appears to be a Dragunov SVD/NDM/PSL/FPK, etc.

Since you said that it is not what it appears to be, and the pics do not show a lot of details, I would assume that it is some other Kalashnikov family member (to include the Valmet or Galil), dressed up to look like a Dragunov.

TR

one-zero

03-30-2006, 18:08

Kalashnikov family, appears to be a Dragunov SVD/NDM/PSL/FPK, etc.
TR

Ok...not Kalishnikov family, there are quite a few folks who dress up PSL/FPKs - which use the Kalishnikov gas system - to look like Dragonuvs. a closer look at the barrel/piston will r/o that one for you

On the Dragunov family yes, I'm hoping the markings weren't discernable which would give it away...there were a few civvie versions in the PC (pre-Clinton) era that made it in.

This is a weapon of the enemy - I don't know if the difference will be noticible from these photos...I'll let it stew just a tad longer.:munchin

Bob1984

03-30-2006, 18:20

You may know the family of this one...but it's not quite what it seems.
1-0

Scope appears slightly different (newer model ?) than the standard SVD scope, has a wider objective lens. Bipod and furniture would suggest a modern SVD variant. I compared the gas block in those photos to the gas blocks on the Zastava M76 and the SVD, it looks like the SVD gas block.

The Reaper

03-30-2006, 18:29

Hmm, pictures are too dark to make out much detail, more like a silhouette.

Buttstock is wrong for an Iraqi Al Kadesiah or the Chinese Type 79/85, wish you had shown a mag in the pics.

TR

Peregrino

03-30-2006, 18:42

OK - The comment about the gas system would lead me to suspect a Yugoslav M-76. Externally identical, uses a long stroke system similar to the AK, vs. the short stroke of the Dragunov. My .02 - Peregrino

one-zero

03-30-2006, 21:57

OK, so I don't lead folks astray - and turn good ol gun porn into a mystery game, especially considering the pic quality.
>TR mentions the Type 79, but notes a difference in the buttstock. Actually it is a Type 79...hence the wood furniture below the wpn.

>Bob1984 notes the difference in the scope from the standard SVD which did have a smaller Obj lense.

>TR also says a pic of the mag would've helped, actually it would've probably confirmed it for him, too easy - I didn't include it:D

>Peregrino; My ref to the gas system was just to keep off the AK family track...as some folks don't recognize what to us is a glaring difference.

Not many folks get to see Type 79s, granted it is an SVD at the end of the day - just a different manufacturer.

Funny this reminds me teaching observation/reporting to S/Os years ago; you'd get the report "...carrying AK-47s..." and I'd ask how they determined this - usually it was the easy assumption based on wpn profile they'd seen. So I'd ask if they were sure it was 47 or 74? AK or akm? Driving home the point that this could determine important intel and presence of different forces supplying arms etc. (as we found when external elements were involved with the FMLN/FSLN in the '80's - the small amount of 74s that showed up in LATAM weren't noted for awhile)
At any rate, they quickly learned the value of "ATB" (appears to be) when reporting items they couldn't positively confirm.

Until I went through the process of LEGALLY registering this little trophy - it was completely sterile. So now there's some required engraving on the reciever/bolt - but it's still cool - let's hope all the DPRK troops have as bad fieldcaft as the former owner if we ever go full-on against that problem set - since they have quite a few (thousand) DMs armed with them...

have a good one,
1-0

Gene Econ

03-30-2006, 22:10

What type of pistol would you like to see? Shotguns? Drillings? deactivated nasties?

Drillings? Ha! OK -- show me some British double rifles.

Gene

The Reaper

03-30-2006, 22:49

1-0:

Good one!

TR

AMMOTECH

03-30-2006, 23:17

Here is my Bushmaster M4 copy:
Barrel: 14.5 with a Phantom 5-slot suppressor.
Sights: Trijicon Reflex 2 & cut carry handle
Pistol Grip: HK style from BM
Rail: Yankee Hill Machine 2 piece
Rail covers: BM
VFG: GG&G
Front sling mount: GG&G
Light mount: Daniel Defense
Light: Surefire
Sling: Specter CQB

HOLLiS

03-30-2006, 23:56

Drillings? Ha! OK -- show me some British double rifles.

Gene

Gene I have two s/s one is a Dilling, 16 g euro, with a 6.5 sauer under barrel, that other is a appox 1900 Parker DH in 16 g

Sten

03-31-2006, 16:30

Just received my wife's HK USP Compact 9mm today. I just noticed that the title is now "Gun Pics" not porn, so my inclusion of gun lube will not be funny at all..

Roguish Lawyer

03-31-2006, 17:11

Just received my wife's HK USP Compact 9mm today. I just noticed that the title is now "Gun Pics" not porn, so my inclusion of gun lube will not be funny at all..

Yes it will! :D

Roguish Lawyer

03-31-2006, 17:14

Anybody got snow guns? :munchin

AngelsSix

03-31-2006, 20:30

I SHOW everyone my guns....I have small ones and big ones....I promise pics tomorrow..........:munchin

The Reaper

03-31-2006, 20:58

Anybody gots no guns? :munchin

Everybody gots guns!

TR

Huey14

03-31-2006, 21:51

Huey gots no guns.

You know, that whole, revolution thing.

The Reaper

03-31-2006, 22:03

Huey gots no guns.

You know, that whole, revolution thing.

Yeah, well, you are in China and still have all of your own organs.

Be thankful.:D

TR

AngelsSix

04-01-2006, 21:12

These are my babies:

The Reaper

04-01-2006, 21:32

These are my babies:

Nice.

I see you like the CZs. Good pistols.

TR

Maytime

04-02-2006, 05:12

AngelsSix, is that a Bushmaster lower I'm seeing? I can almost make out the logo.

MAB32

04-02-2006, 17:03

I also like the CZ's (75 & 85) very nice trigger pull in DA. Probably the best I have ever seen. Anybody know what is on the end of my M1 Garand?:munchin

The Reaper

04-02-2006, 17:14

I also like the CZ's (75 & 85) very nice trigger pull in DA. Probably the best I have ever seen. Anybody know what is on the end of my M1 Garand?:munchin

Back on Page 4, or right now?

In the pic on Page 4 it looks like an M17 Rifle Grenade.

Right now, I have no idea.

TR

MAB32

04-02-2006, 17:18

TR

I am laughing my dupah off, my mistake. Yes it is an original M17. Just FYI, right now it has a bayonet on the end of it.;)

AngelsSix

04-02-2006, 20:45

Thanks for the compliments...i do like the CZ's. Although I have to say the .40 was a serious dissapointment. I sent it back to the manufacturer once, they didn't do anything. It jams a lot. I never have that problem witht the Beretta or the Kimber. But all in all, the other two CZ's are extremely reliable. Both the 9mm and the .380 have proven their worth.

The rifle is Colt.

vsvo

04-04-2006, 09:32

My carbine, with ARMS SIR purchased from the Team Sergeant - thanks TS!

The Reaper

04-04-2006, 09:36

My carbine, with ARMS SIR purchased from the Team Sergeant - thanks TS!

Very nice!

LMT makes good gear.

TR

vsvo

04-04-2006, 09:49

Very nice!

LMT makes good gear.

TR
Thanks, sir!

Team Sergeant

04-04-2006, 10:22

My carbine, with ARMS SIR purchased from the Team Sergeant - thanks TS!

Now all you need is a light and an optic....

That grip swivel?

TS

The Reaper

04-04-2006, 10:40

That grip swivel?

TS

Not if you are talking about the front grip.

Looks to me like the Dieter CQD.

I have one and like it, only beef is the slow install/adjust/remove time.

TR

vsvo

04-04-2006, 10:51

Now all you need is a light and an optic....

That grip swivel?

TS
TS, no swivel, just a compartment for batteries and a cutout on the other side for a tape switch. Per your advice, I will be adding a SureFire, probably the Scout.

For the optic, it sounds like the EOTech will be better for me, but I better try it and the Aimpoint out first before I buy. I don't know anyone around here with one I can try, so I'll just shoot the irons for now. But since it's my only AR, I should take TR's advice that the TA31F is the most versatile optic for this rifle and start saving my pennies.

vsvo

04-04-2006, 10:59

Looks to me like the Dieter CQD.

I have one and like it, only beef is the slow install/adjust/remove time.

TR
Oops, I was typing when you replied. You're right sir, it's the CQD. I first saw it on one of your AR's pictured in another thread.:)

jbour13

04-04-2006, 13:02

TS, no swivel, just a compartment for batteries and a cutout on the other side for a tape switch. Per your advice, I will be adding a SureFire, probably the Scout.

For the optic, it sounds like the EOTech will be better for me, but I better try it and the Aimpoint out first before I buy. I don't know anyone around here with one I can try, so I'll just shoot the irons for now. But since it's my only AR, I should take TR's advice that the TA31F is the most versatile optic for this rifle and start saving my pennies.

vsvo,

I'm in your neck of the woods. (Lorton/ Woodbridge area) PM me and I can hook you up with a rifle, and range to shoot. I've got the below rifle with the attached goodies (EOTech included). I may be able to snag an aimpoint from a co-worker. Let me know.

Peregrino

04-04-2006, 14:01

vsvo,

I'm in your neck of the woods. (Lorton/ Woodbridge area) PM me and I can hook you up with a rifle, and range to shoot. I've got the below rifle with the attached goodies (EOTech included). I may be able to snag an aimpoint from a co-worker. Let me know.

Now that's networking. Talk about hooking a brother up with a kind and generous offer. ;) Ya'll have fun. Personally, I've got an EOTech and two Aimpoints. I'm busy saving pennies for the TA31F myself. I'll be talking to the Trijicon guys tomorrow afternoon to check out prices/availability. For those of you in the Ft. Bragg area USAA is sponsoring a trade show at the O-club (through tomorrow 1700). Displays of interest include: Eagle, Trijicon, Buffer Tech, Paraclete, ESS (eyepro), Watershed (waterproof bags), and McNett (soldier support items). Most others are oriented towards "Big Army" systems or otherwise not suitable for personal acquisition. Peregrino

vsvo

04-04-2006, 14:45

jbour13, PM inbound!:)

The Reaper

04-04-2006, 17:11

For those of you in the Ft. Bragg area USAA is sponsoring a trade show at the O-club (through tomorrow 1700).

Peregrino

The show is an AUSA show, not USAA. Both useful organizations, but not interchangable.

All of the people working the show I know plan to leave at 1500 tomorrow, and there are no retail sales being offered there.

It is a good opportunity to window shop. Fourth Quarter spending starts in less than 90 days!

TR

Peregrino

04-04-2006, 18:28

OK - I stand corrected. :o I claim dyslexia (it couldn't be because I didn't care enough to pay attention/weak SA). At least I got the letters right. :p Yes - it is a good venue (kind of small though) for units with IMPAC credit cards that don't travel to trade shows to see new products. FWIW - Peregrino

Chris

04-04-2006, 18:59

gunnerjohn

04-04-2006, 19:25

Smokin Joe

04-04-2006, 19:44

HOLLiS

04-04-2006, 20:05

Well my new toy arrived today..
CZ550 Safari Magnum in .416 Rigby. It weights 8.25lbs and should rattle any screws that I have left in my head loose. To those that have no clue what a 416 Rigby is or does, there is a picture of one cartridge next to a .308 round. It shoots a 400gr Barnes Triple Shock bullet at 2675. Reported recoil is between 90 and 96lbs. Should be fun. "Here Kitty, Kitty, Kitty".

Nice rifle. My daughter wants a cougar skin rug, A cougar took down our llama a few weeks ago. I guess that rifle could also take down any rogue Locomotives too..... Not sure if I would want to be on the "recoil" end of it.

Chris

04-04-2006, 20:07

Okay Okay,

I'm in "training" right now and they get kind of irritated if I show up with anything in "plain view" so I'm kind of limited to the following for a little while but I figured I would show off what I'm currently "playing" with.

Take Care All.

Nice Kimber there Joe! I would say I hope that Benchmade didn't suffer... but :eek:

The wave is handy isn't it?

jbour13

04-05-2006, 09:01

How do you like the SF M73?

Works well for its intended use, adding goodies. My only complaint is that I will not be able to free float the barrel in it's current config. Since it's primary function is range use there is no real need to free float the barrel. 200m is the most I'll shoot it, It's mostly work inside 10m and less. We'll set up blind targets and have to engage them at close ranges. Some just get muzzle pokes or butt stroked. :D

I'm thinking of investing in a DPMS lo-pro or a Rock River Varmint upper and adding an A.R.M.S. S.I.R. system for more accurate shooting. My oldest brother had a lo-pro 16" that would effectively frag prairie dogs out to 600m. Accurate round, but on windy days it'd wreak havoc on a round and shift it so much at those distances we'd lose the impacting round.

Rudyak

04-05-2006, 09:01

Here is a pic of my favorite toy.

The girl in the picture is my daughter.

It started out as an M16A1. I switched it to an XM177E2 with an A2 upper. 11.5" barrel, select fire lower. The bloop tube is a 40mm M203 by J.A. Ceiner. Both registered, taxes paid, fully legal to own.

Chris

04-05-2006, 10:31

I'm thinking of investing in a DPMS lo-pro or a Rock River Varmint upper and adding an A.R.M.S. S.I.R. system for more accurate shooting.

Two good systems, but before going on anything mentioned above, check out Mark LaRue and his rail systems. Or, wait for the new Daniel Defense/VLTOR CASV rails. The VLTOR CASV is like the S.I.R. in that it provides a 'monorail' upper rail, with removable lower rails. It also adds option 4:30 and 7:30 rails which are great to have. Personally, I'm waiting for the CASV.

It started out as an M16A1. I switched it to an XM177E2 with an A2 upper. 11.5" barrel, select fire lower. The bloop tube is a 40mm M203 by J.A. Ceiner. Both registered, taxes paid, fully legal to own.

Ahh!!! That Class III must be nice. :lifter

Team Sergeant

04-05-2006, 10:48

Two good systems, but before going on anything mentioned above, check out Mark LaRue and his rail systems. Or, wait for the new Daniel Defense/VLTOR CASV rails. The VLTOR CASV is like the S.I.R. in that it provides a 'monorail' upper rail, with removable lower rails. It also adds option 4:30 and 7:30 rails which are great to have. Personally, I'm waiting for the CASV.

Dammit man! Put some links in that post!:rolleyes:

TS

jbour13

04-05-2006, 12:26

Dammit man! Put some links in that post!:rolleyes:

TS

I agree TS,......links needed!:D

ASAP!!!! I gotta paycheck to dump!

Chris

04-05-2006, 12:38

Dammit man! Put some links in that post!:rolleyes:

TS

Wilco TS

VLTOR CAS-V Info
CASV (http://www.vltor.com/casv.html)
Installation looks like a cinch (http://www.vltor.com/manuals_casv_el.html)
Pics worth a thousand! (http://www.vltor.com/handguards_and_rails_pics.html#MHR31)

LaRue Rails & Other Goodies (http://www.laruetactical.com/marketplace/servlet/Marketplaces?webEvent(ViewProductGridPage,folderCl ick)&folderID=6411&scrollTop=0) - Wes @ MSTN does a lot of business with LaRue, stands behind their products and his assembly. Believe he posts here too, good guy.

Daniel Defense
Rails here, good kit but their 9/3 side rails are not 1913 spec :( (http://www.danieldefense.com/?page=shop/browse&category=ar15/m4freefloatrailsystems)
SMG Lee's SHOT 2006 Review (http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=268889&page=5), page 5/9 on ARFcom has pictures of the new DD system entered into the SOCOM Block 2 RAS competition.

ARFcom has its share of idiots and half wits, but in the upper/lower section there are several stickies about stocks/rails you should check out for a wider variety of information that I can provide you with at this time. If you wanted something available NOW: LaRue is the heat, good prices too. The CASV is free float and its minimal installation, whereas LaRue requires a bit of work. I like to clean my weapons thoroughly, so easy removal of the CASV facilitates this need and many more. Removes the EOTech from iron sights view if you're going that way. (I am, cowitnessing is not a need for my present use of my carbine).

jbour13

04-05-2006, 16:02

Pictured starting on top working my way left to right:
USP Elite 9mm*
USP Tactical 45
USP 45*
Insight Technologies M3
Surefire X-200A
USP 40*
USP 40 Compact
Sig Sauer P-228 9mm*
Sig Sauer P-226 40 S&W*
Sig Sauer P-229 40 S&W (The Wife's gun)
Kimber TLE/RL II
Colt 1991A1 Series 80
Smith and Wesson 22A-1* (The Wife's plinker)
Ruger Mark II Government Model*

Of the above pistols I’ve bought 7 since November (Annotated by the asterisk). Working part-time at a gun-store has its perks and payoffs!!

Next up my long guns!!!

The Reaper

04-05-2006, 18:53

The M73 is a great mounting solution, and relatively inexpensive as well. The point about the lack of need for a free-floated rail system for a carbine is well-taken. I am not a fan of the RIS or RAS.

The SIR is okay, but a bit clunky. I like the LaRue freefloat best, hear good things about the Daniel Defense tube, the PRI has its fans, and the Knight's free-floated RAS is somewhere down the line.

TR

Chris

04-05-2006, 20:23

militarymoron

04-05-2006, 20:42

the Vltor VIS is going to give the LMT MRP a run for the money as a monolithic upper alternative, if a free float one-piece upper floats your boat. uninterrupted top rail, in carbine, mid-length and rifle lengths. takes standard M4/16 type barrels. the bottom rail is removable, unlike the MRP. it's nice - eric at Vltor's a good designer.
http://www.vltor.com/vis.html

Chris

04-05-2006, 20:53

If I've read right, looks like its half the price of the MRP too.

phalanx50

04-06-2006, 00:00

My H&K P7M8 and Utilihak with a group I shot rapid fire from 25 feet as fast as I could go. Three mags and one in the pipe a mag at a time. I'll even admit I dropped one in the chest.

The second picture is me at the range with a friend earlier this year. We were shooting his new Barrett 82 A1.

jake

Chris

04-06-2006, 07:25

M82, very nice. No semi .50's in Canada, they're too dangerous for civilians to handle. Plenty of bolt action .50's though, they're far less dangerous. :rolleyes:

The Reaper

04-06-2006, 08:19

phalanx50

04-06-2006, 15:19

Nice bench pad for the bipod.:D

Don't think it is rated for that round though.

TR

We were using an old vest as a pad to help the rifle stop slipping. The m107 is almost identical to that rifle and has spiked feet which can be bought after market.

During the excitement and fun of throwing round down range we forgot to shoot the old vest with the Barrett.

And correct me if I am wrong but all .50bmg rifles are now banned from sale or transfer in the state of Kalifornistan?

jake

Team Sergeant

04-06-2006, 15:32

And correct me if I am wrong but all .50bmg rifles are now banned from sale or transfer in the state of Kalifornistan?

jake

Yup.

You have not seen Barretts add in the "American Rifleman"?

Shows the Model 99 .416 rifle and states "legal even in Calif".

phalanx50

04-06-2006, 20:08

I knew about the .416's ,but the .50's are still out right?

jake

The Reaper

04-06-2006, 20:13

I knew about the .416's ,but the .50's are still out right?

jake

I thought that you were in Georgia?

Where are you headed with this line of questioning?

TR

phalanx50

04-06-2006, 20:43

I am in Georgia and was just wondering.

jake

Gene Econ

04-06-2006, 21:32

The second picture is me at the range with a friend earlier this year. We were shooting his new Barrett 82 A1.jake

Jake:

My, a Barrett. Waiting for Rick to get his blood pressure down to the point of making a comment. Hopefully you didn't do him in.

My comments are tame compared to Rick's. That's because he is older than me and has less tolerance due to his antique age. He is also forced to try to get performance out of them in SOTIC. I am only forced to have our guys zero them (relative term with Barretts firing any sort of issued ammo), and to shoot some M-113 hulks at 600 meters for about five or ten rounds per shooter. Oh yes guys, I shoot only Mk-211 from the Barretts during our programs so I don't need comments about Ball or 1950's vintage M-8 API. The stuff we shot two months ago was Mk-211 from 2002. The M-107's didn't do this good ammo any justice.

Not a criticism of you old boy. Kind of like PTSD, anything that forces me to think of a Barrett tends to have an adverse effect on me.

Gene

Tuukka

04-07-2006, 09:27

Found the camera hardware..

Did someone mention drillings ?

jbour13

04-07-2006, 11:46

Found the camera hardware..

Did someone mention drillings ?

My god man.......we've found double barrel and bolt gun heaven!!! :cool:

I see that all the good furniture is burying a G36, any reason? :D

Team Sergeant

04-07-2006, 12:54

I see that all the good furniture is burying a G36, any reason? :D

Yeah, with all that fancy hardware he's probually using the G36 as a door stop........:rolleyes:

Tuukka

04-07-2006, 14:06

Well, they are on loan for some suppressor mount testing, nothing fancy about them.

Chris

04-07-2006, 17:42

Tuukka, do I spy an S&B Short dot? If so.... :D

Chris

04-07-2006, 18:42

I am not a fan of the RIS or RAS.
TR

I was looking at getting one of these for my short AR. Have opportunity right now to acquire for cheaper than SF M73, would give it a go since rail level is same as upper. So far have heard no bad points on it, so... may I ask why?

Tuukka

04-08-2006, 06:51

Tuukka, do I spy an S&B Short dot? If so.... :D

Yes, it is the Short Dot, mounting is due to the raised "hump" on the RAS II.

The Reaper

04-09-2006, 08:17

I was looking at getting one of these for my short AR. Have opportunity right now to acquire for cheaper than SF M73, would give it a go since rail level is same as upper. So far have heard no bad points on it, so... may I ask why?

Check MSRPs. If you can get a RIS or RAS used for less than a M73 new, it is probably stolen property.

Thr top rail height differential is arguable, current wisdom is that the dropped top rail was done for military use, as it is preferred with the PAQ-2 and PEQ-4 mounted.

Check how tightly the rails fit, and imagine how much rattle and slop you will have on a RIS/RAS after a few months. I have several of each. All of the RIS/RAS are off my guns now, replaced by the M73.

Only advantage to the RIS/RAS is that for a full-auto gun, the rail covers are better than the ladder rail protectors on the M73. Other than that, inferior in every way I can imagine.

TR

Chris

04-09-2006, 14:26

Price was on a lightly used piece. I did not even have the option after posting, it was sniped by another. Lucky for me, it turns out. I will use your wisdom and check out the M73 again, thanks TR.

The Reaper

04-09-2006, 14:32

Price was on a lightly used piece. I did not even have the option after posting, it was sniped by another. Lucky for me, it turns out. I will use your wisdom and check out the M73 again, thanks TR.

The M73 retailed for $199, last time I checked. You can find them for $150 or so if you shop around.

If you have not handled the M73, you may want to check it out with someone near you who will let you finger it. I much prefer mine to everything but the free floats.

TR

Huey14

04-12-2006, 22:51

Yeah, well, you are in China and still have all of your own organs.

Be thankful.:D

TR

Not if this Chinese beer has it's way with me.

The Reaper

04-13-2006, 08:29

Not if this Chinese beer has it's way with me.

It contains formaldehyde, to prepare your organs for preservation.

See the Chinese vivisection "art" display in London this month.

Be afraid.

TR

HOLLiS

04-13-2006, 12:28

Ok for the old timers...

Martin

04-13-2006, 13:26

Ok for the old timers...
Okay, I'm thinking... I don't think it's an M60. Hmmm...

What is it?

Martin

Air.177

04-13-2006, 13:56

SKS of some sort. Possibly Chinese Type 53? or is it 56?

The Reaper

04-13-2006, 14:08

SKS of some sort. Possibly Chinese Type 53? or is it 56?

I am pretty sure that was a facetious question.

Agree that it looks like a Chinese Type 56 from the wood and the sling. What the heck is a Type 53?

TR

Martin

04-13-2006, 14:12

I am pretty sure that was a facetious question.

Agree that it looks Chinese from the wood and the sling. Bayonet looks wrong though.

TR
Yes, although I do have no idea what it is, Sir. Would have guessed Chinese purely intuitively. Very beautiful rifle nonetheless.

Martin

Air.177

04-13-2006, 14:12

I am pretty sure that was a facetious question.

Agree that it looks like a Chinese Type 56 from the wood and the sling.

TR

Sorry, The Swede asked ;)

M4Guru

04-13-2006, 14:12

I am pretty sure that was a facetious question.

Agree that it looks Chinese from the wood and the sling. Bayonet looks wrong though.

TR

bayonet looks Yugo, but it's missing the grenade launcher and flip up ladder sight.

Maybe neutered for some state's ban???

Air.177

04-13-2006, 14:20

What the heck is a Type 53?

TR

Malfunctioning Brainbox, I knew it was a type 5_, I just couldn't remember exactly what the second number was.

Also, the type 53 was the chinese take on a Mosin Nagant Carbine, similar to the M38.

Peregrino

04-13-2006, 14:20

IIRC the Yugo SKS's are available in two versions: the M59 and the M59/66. The 59/66 is the one w/grenade launcher. That one "could" be a 59 (or more probably the aforementioned Chicom Type 56, re TR's comments). They were produced w/o the grenade accys. Peregrino

Pete

04-13-2006, 14:22

bayonet looks Yugo, but it's missing the grenade launcher and flip up ladder sight.

Maybe neutered for some state's ban???

Yugo made the Type/Model 59, 59/66 and 59/66A1 before going with the AK series.

China had the Type 56.

The Russian one "SKS" would be called the Model 1945

Air.177

04-13-2006, 14:26

Peregrino, Good point Sir, I had forgotten the straight M59's w/o launcher spigot on them. It has been my experience though that most of the Yugo Stocks are a bit more rounded, and less 2x4 like than the one pictured. Honestly, with so many variants and accessories out there, it is sheer speculation on my part as to exactly what it is, I suppose we are at Hollis's Mercy for the answer.

Cool thread guys, I may try to get in on it tonight.

Good times,
Blake

Pete

04-13-2006, 14:38

.... with so many variants and accessories out there, it is sheer speculation on my part as to exactly what it is, I suppose we are at Hollis's Mercy for the answer. .....

Well we are at least spared the AK pictures

Kalashnikov - The lesser Models; Bulgaria, Egypt, Germany (East), Hungary, Korea, The Netherlands (the Galil version), Poland, Romania, South Africa (Galil) and Sweden (Galil again).

The Galil is close to the Finnish m/62.

And lets not forget the AKM, AK-74, AKMS, AKM SU, AK-74 SU.

Oh, my head is swimming. We can have so much fun.:D

Pete

HOLLiS

04-13-2006, 20:01

It is a Chi-Com SKS, in RVN they had the knife bayonet..

HOLLiS

04-13-2006, 20:06

Well we are at least spared the AK pictures

Pete

Ok daughter with her bulgarian AK, I made the receiver...

Tuukka

04-14-2006, 02:42

The Finnish AKs were mentioned, here is a 7.62 RK 62 in use.

M4Guru

04-14-2006, 13:24

Some of the blasters...

New this morning, SOCOM II fresh from Shooter's...

Franken M4 with Quicksilver can, and the black one is a DPMS I built yesterday for my roomate...

No NDD, you can't have them. I know it's coming.

Chris

04-14-2006, 14:36

M4Guru, is that a Troy rail on your M4?

M4Guru

04-14-2006, 15:48

Yeah, it was over a LaRue gas block, but I went back to the standard FSB so I cut it out.

Razor

04-14-2006, 18:22

Holy crap! Do you hold the SOCOM II under your armpit to see through the optic?

M4Guru

04-14-2006, 18:33

I'm waiting on a low-pro LaRue mount to get here tomorrow, this was just the only 30mm ring I had laying around. Instant gratificaton:)

It's not actually that high, just the angle. I am slapping a Sage EBR stock on it, too, which put the stock in line with the bore instead of being dropped. The VLTOR rail system is not that great...the shape is just off for me.

The Reaper

04-14-2006, 18:39

Peregrino

04-14-2006, 20:57

Nothing like a 12 lb. CQB rifle.:D

TR

And even if he misses the flame and concussion ought to be enough to clear the room. Might not need to bang the next room either. :p Peregrino

Chris

04-14-2006, 21:17

And even if he misses the flame and concussion ought to be enough to clear the room. Might not need to bang the next room either. :p Peregrino

The short-gun BBQ effect at work again. :D

M4Guru

04-15-2006, 06:18

Nothing like a 12 lb. CQB rifle.:D

TR

Nothing like a 12 lb. "Look Cooler Than Everyone Else at McKellars" rifle is mor elike it,boss.:p

It is a HEAVY mother...

Gene Econ

04-15-2006, 20:59

And even if he misses the flame and concussion ought to be enough to clear the room. Might not need to bang the next room either. :p Peregrino

You got that one right. A freind of mine (fellow SF) has one on a Sage Stock. Felt like handling an M-60. We shot some M-80, M-852, M-118 SB, and M-118 LR out of it to see if any single type of issued ammo would function the thing for at least one magazine of 20 without a failure to feed / eject. Short barrel and gas system problems go hand in hand.

The most impressive feature of it was its ability to light up a huge area from the muzzle flash, particularly with issued M-80 Ball. I got a huge kick out of this feature. Pretty loud as well. Chances are you won't hit a thing with it at 200 yards but you will burn to a crisp anyone within ten yards and will probably blow out the ear drums of folks to 25 yards.

I have an upper for my AR-10 that has an adjustable gas block. I have found that by tuning of the gas pressure you can not only ensure decent reliability but also accuracy. Reliability from tuning the gas system I can understand but dramatic changes in accuracy I can't. Going into battery consistently adds to accuracy but what I have witnessed has been so dramatic that it is more than just consistently going into battery.

I think this gas issue was probably the biggest problem for guys tuning the M-14 for consistent match grade precision. Very difficult to work on the gas system for a M-14 if you don't have the ability to manufacture gas pistons.

Gene

M4Guru

04-16-2006, 06:15

I shot a bunch of Hornady TAP 168gr through it yesterday. It will bang a 10in gong at 300m all day long, and I had ZERO problems with it's functioning. Filthy cheap ammo may tell another tale, however. It's part flamethrower even with TAP which is supposed to be low-flash according to Hornady. The concussion is also quite noticeable. I put plugs under my Peltors after one mag...

You can't put a FH on it, the brake is part of the gas block assy. on these, but I got this as a plinker, and maybe to shoot some 3 gun/tac rifle matches with. It's fun, if you can hold it up for more than 5 rounds at a time. Definitely not like the 9mm Colt AR I have, or an M4 for that matter.

GackMan

04-17-2006, 14:27

Nothing like a 12 lb. CQB rifle.:D

TR

Since you mentioned it...

Just a fun project I'm playing with.

img159.imageshack.us/img159/7516/v514br.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v514br.jpg)

Test fired last week, just dumpped a few different flavors of 7.62 out of it. No issues with any of it.

I'm waiting to do the SBR paperwork... hope to have it done by x-mas.

M4Guru

04-17-2006, 14:42

Since you mentioned it...

Just a fun project I'm playing with.

img159.imageshack.us/img159/7516/v514br.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v514br.jpg)

Test fired last week, just dumpped a few different flavors of 7.62 out of it. No issues with any of it.

I'm waiting to do the SBR paperwork... hope to have it done by x-mas.

God forbid my shotgun barrel is less than 18 inches but this thing's ok with the ATF cause it's a PISTOl????
lol...
:D

GackMan

04-17-2006, 18:56

it is a little loud...

:p

Sten

04-26-2006, 15:41

I received this on Friday. It is a Fulton Armory FAR-15.

HOLLiS

04-27-2006, 10:38

Here are two.........

HOLLiS

04-27-2006, 20:42

Ok they are both Winchesters

The Reaper

04-27-2006, 20:49

Ok they are both Winchesters

P17 rifle and an 1887 lever action shotgun.

TR

HOLLiS

04-27-2006, 21:06

P17 rifle and an 1887 lever action shotgun.

TR

You have a very good eye. Yes. I think the 1887 started life out as a long barrel, but was shorten later. The '87 is fun to shoot. The P17 is in very fine condition.

ZoneOne

04-27-2006, 22:05

Just recieved this from the shop today. XD .45ACP 5" Tactical

Gave a link, can't seem to attach the file.

http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img02538zp.jpg

bberkley

04-28-2006, 13:15

My AR15s.

Top one is a Bushmaster lower with Magpul PRS stock, Sierra Precision Rifles grip, CMT upper, Bushmaster 20" HBAR with custom compensator by RJ's Custom Shop out of Washougal, WA, and a Bushmaster Varminter freefloat tube. The scope is an IOR Valdada 2.5-10x42. I don't think I will have enough room to mount the scope, and will either have to get a Larue mount or add some rail section to the freefloat tube or replace the tube with a rail system. I cut down the original front sight tower to make a low-profile gas block. I don't think I will keep it, it looks pretty bad.

Bottom AR is my original Bushmaster lower with Magpul M93B stock, Falcon Ergo grip, JP firecontrol system, EGW M4 upper, DPMS 16" M4 profile barrel, Midwest Industries 2-piece freefloat quad rail with Magpul XT rail covers, ARMS #22M68 with cantilever spacer, and Aimpoint CompM3 4MOA. I used to have the YHM stuff on this rifle.

Kyobanim

04-28-2006, 18:03

Just recieved this from the shop today. XD .45ACP 5" Tactical

Gave a link, can't seem to attach the file.

http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img02538zp.jpg

The file was too big. compress the image to under a meg and maybe resize to 800x600.

M4Guru

05-02-2006, 14:53

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/M4Guru/DSC00273.jpg

Update on the SOCOM II. Got the right ring a few weeks ago as well as the MK14 Chopmod stock from Sage Industries...

Pete

05-02-2006, 15:44

..Update on the SOCOM II. Got the right ring a few weeks ago as well as the MK14 Chopmod stock from Sage Industries...

Man O Man thats some rat killer. :-)

Pete

M4Guru

05-02-2006, 15:54

Too bad I can barely pick the dang thing up...:lifter :D

The Reaper

05-02-2006, 16:05

Too bad I can barely pick the dang thing up...:lifter :D

Did someone pimp your gun, or are they all that bright metal?

Was there a Gold trim package offered?:munchin

TR

M4Guru

05-02-2006, 16:08

Don't blame me, the SEALs picked it. It's a matte grey anodizing but the flash on my digi-cam hit it. I'm not much of a photographer. Not that it will mater once my handy jar of Dura-Coat gets here.....:D

Bunch o' damn critics....:D

Team Sergeant

05-02-2006, 17:36

You are lucky there are no weapon " fashion police" or you'd be doing hard time for that concoction....:rolleyes: :D

concoction
A noun
1 confection, concoction
the act of creating something (a medicine or drink or soup etc.) by compounding or mixing a variety of components

http://www.wordreference.com/definition/concoction

Razor

05-02-2006, 18:29

I believe owning something like that can get your tab revoked. :eek:

Air.177

05-02-2006, 18:52

Ok, I think I can make this work now:

Let's see, the AR in the first Pic is a Frankengun built on a DPMS lower by me. It has a JP Trigger, CMT upper w/M4 Feed cuts, Sabre defence 18" midlength, midweight , fluted 1/7 barrrel, Levang linear comp, LaRue 9.0 4 rail float tube, LaRue aimpoint mount, Aimpoint Comp M2, LaRue throw lever scout-light mount, Surefire scout weapon light with KL1 head, PRI gasblock front sight, Old school Colt 2 position Collapsible stock, A2 Grip. (will be replacing the stock with an LMT Sopmod, and the grip with an Ergo, as well as adding a buis probably a KAC 600)

The handgun in the Second Pic is an FN/Browning model 1910 7.65mm (.32acp) I have great plans for this gun, but in it's current condition, it is somewhat of a beater. The lights are (clockwise from left) Surefire L7 Rechargeable, Fenix L2P, and Surefire M6 Guardian, and a TAG radio pouch that the M6 lives in.

The third Pic is my pride and Joy, this my friends is the inside of the,"Little Bastard's Mischief Kit" it is a Halliburton Zero Briefcase that when required carries the items in the photo (clkwise from top right) Beretta mdl 950 chambered in .22short and threaded 1/2-28, Browning Semi-auto .22 LR takedown rifle also threaded 1/2-28, Surefire M6, Beretta mdl 21 chambered in .22lr and Threaded 1/2-28, Ward Machine produced .22lr Suppressor (registered NFA Item), Leatherman supertool, Zeiss Miniquick Monocular, and a Swiss armt knife. Not shown:spare pistol mags, Copies of Form 4 Papers, approx 500 rds mixed .22lr/short ammunition, small tool kit, and Business cards.

The fourth Pic is the Remington 870 Express shotgun that I set up to suit my needs (Iron man class three gun, home protection, Texas Quail hunting, looking cool) it is a plain 870 express purchased by me on my 18th birthday enahanced in the following manner: 18" non ported Vang comp barrel with XS "DEA" sights installed, Remington Walnut "English" Stock from 1100 Bird gun, old style forearm, Custom made knurled Mag extension (7+1), Vang "Big Head" safety, Vang Stainless Follower, and Wolff Extra Power Mag spring.

Not my entire Collection, but definately some of the more interesting selections.

Good times,
Blake

The Reaper

05-02-2006, 19:41

Nice collection, B.

The box needs a shorty M-4 with a .22 conversion kit and a 1911 with a .22 conversion as well.

TR

bberkley

05-02-2006, 20:57

I'm working on taking better pics of my weapons.

Here are a few different views of my AR-15's. I hope to have my JP fire control parts for the 20" here tomorrow, so I have Saturday planned to install it, and the scope rings should be here next week. After drooling over the pics of the 6.8 uppers that MSTN is building, I know where the next pile of my cash is going.

Chris

05-02-2006, 20:58

LaRue 7.0 on the way next week. Taking a new shooter out to the range tomorrow, will be spreading the disease.

I've been hearing some good things on ARFcom about Geissele National Match AR triggers. Anyone have experience these?

Team Sergeant

05-02-2006, 21:06

jbour13

05-02-2006, 21:17

Kinda hard to shoot that AR-Hbar with no sights?:rolleyes:

Oh come now TS, he's a gamer, they get to run up on the targets and shoot them. Indexing the gun is enough. :)

bberkley, just playin'......I do it too!!! :D

Team Sergeant

05-02-2006, 21:23

Oh come now TS, he's a gamer, they get to run up on the targets and shoot them. Indexing the gun is enough. :)

bberkley, just playin'......I do it too!!! :D

As heavy as it looks he could probably just hit people with it......:rolleyes:

bberkley

05-02-2006, 21:26

Kinda hard to shoot that AR-Hbar with no sights?:rolleyes:

TS:

I've got a good piece of glass for it, just waiting on ARMS to deliver the rings. :)

I'm still recuperating from a discectomy at L5-S1 on the 18th, I had to have something to do while getting better, what better way than to work on my rifles. :D

As heavy as it looks he could probably just hit people with it......:rolleyes:

Its damn heavy too. Its not really going to be a USPSA Race gun, more likely going to be used to kill sage rats in Eastern Oregon with a few friends. I might sell the upper and use that to fund a 16" 6.8 SPC with a PRI forend from MSTN.

Tubbs

05-02-2006, 21:42

[QUOTE=bberkley]

I'm still recuperating from a discectomy at L5-S1 [QUOTE]

Ah yes, the good old L5-S1, mine cost me 6 months of physical therapy and the inability to reenter military service, even as a reservist. I feel your pain.:(

Hope you get well soon.

HOLLiS

05-02-2006, 22:36

As heavy as it looks he could probably just hit people with it......:rolleyes:

I was wondering about the SOCOM M14... did it retain it's club value or if you wacked someone with it, would it fall apart.

Team Sergeant

05-03-2006, 06:13

I was wondering about the SOCOM M14... did it retain it's club value or if you wacked someone with it, would it fall apart.

Lots of "vendors" call their products "Special Forces" "SOCOM" "Special Operations" etc. (I call my dog Einstein, he's really not a genius.)

We don't wear "Special Forces watches" or carry "Special Forces knives". I've not yet heard of any Special Forces soldiers actually using the "SOCOM M14".

(I love slime that make a living using "our" hard earned reputation on their products.)

TS

swatsurgeon

05-03-2006, 12:53

The Reaper

05-03-2006, 13:04

I always wondered about that....some designer/builder of a new 'toy' puts it into the hands of a real operator and whether or not it functions as advertised, etc, they then say it's SF used/recommended.........it is a crime they are committing, is it not, i.e, fraud. Doesn't some 'higher authority' have to sanction the terms used: SOCOM, SF, etc....on a gun or knife, or pack?

People do exactly that.

They try to give some SF guy some of their gear, then claim that it is "used by Special Forces", even if all the guy did was to take it home and put it in his closet. There is a policy letter directing soldiers not to accept gear from any other than authorized sources, but if a guy wants to buy it, it is the same ad.

Could be worse, at one time, I think the SEALs had at least 20 "authorized" SEAL knives, exclusive hand to hand techniques, and watches.

TR

M4Guru

05-03-2006, 15:57

Supposedly, Crane procured some 16' barrels from Mike Rock for the MK14 project, SA copied the barrel profile, and VOILA! SOCOM M14. FWIW all the M14's I've laid eyes on used a cut down (from the normal 22' to 18') barrel with a Smith Ind. Vortex FH on them. I wish I had gotten the 18' with a normal gas system and FH instead of the SOCOM model, but this one has treated me OK so far with no problems to speak of. We have some M14s dropped into Sage stocks on our arms room but I haven't seen any SF guys using any modified barrels. SA is just taking advantage of the SOF fan market I assume.

Hollis, if you're volunteering I bet we could find someone big enough to swing this thing at you...but my educated guess is that 16' of steel, and M1A receiver, and a block of billet aluminum is very sturdy and would not "fall apart" :D

HOLLiS

05-03-2006, 16:12

Hollis, if you're volunteering I bet we could find someone big enough to swing this thing at you...but my educated guess is that 16' of steel, and M1A receiver, and a block of billet aluminum is very sturdy and would not "fall apart" :D

If that is the case I best start running in a serpentine fashion keep my tuchas low...... LOL..........I am really partial the M14 as it was originally fashioned. Though I think it is becoming passe' as the years move on.

M4Guru

05-03-2006, 16:14

I can understand that, I'm waiting on a Fulton Armory M14 right now, as plain as they come. The only thing I will do to it is add some NM sights and a Turner saddlery sling an shoot it.

Team Sergeant

05-03-2006, 16:17

If that is the case I best start running in a serpentine fashion keep my tuchas low...... LOL..........I am really partial the M14 as it was originally fashioned. Though I think it is becoming passe' as the years move on.

We stopped using it for a few reasons.... one of them, try carrying 300 rounds of 7.62. (300 rounds is a basic load for an SF guy.) I've shot both the M-14 and the M-21, and enjoyed both. But I'll take the .223 & the M4 anytime......;)

TS

HOLLiS

05-03-2006, 17:15

We stopped using it for a few reasons.... one of them, try carrying 300 rounds of 7.62. (300 rounds is a basic load for an SF guy.) I've shot both the M-14 and the M-21, and enjoyed both. But I'll take the .223 & the M4 anytime......;)

TS

As much as Love the M14, I would only want in a fixed position and under "light action". In auto it can become very uncontrolable. One has to really lean in to, and lock your left arm on the hand guard and bust 2 -3 rds... We prefered the M16 for the bush biggest reason was you can carry about twice the ammo. I carried 35 mags. Also M16 was very controlable in full auto. The best job discription for a Marine grunt was a mule. We carried everything and it would long times between resupply, so lighter and more was prefered to heavier and less. A reason you never saw pistols. Only the rich and famous had them. Even Doc carried a M16.

We did have, or could have a company sniper, today's term is DSM, he would be issued a M14. They were not very common in our TAR (Mutter's Ridge).

Roguish Lawyer

05-03-2006, 18:55

Just ordered something fun. Will post pictures when I get it. :lifter

Gene Econ

05-03-2006, 19:41

Supposedly, Crane procured some 16' barrels from Mike Rock for the MK14 project, SA copied the barrel profile, and VOILA! SOCOM M14. :D

Yes there was such an animal. Folding stock affixed to a issued fiberglass stock whose original stock was sheared off. Shot well and even functioned. Recoil was very manageable due to the vortex (?) flash hider. I shot it at 100 so have no idea how well it would hold at any ranges that make a difference. I called Crane and inquired as to how much it would cost the Brigade for about 110 of them. Needless to say, the cost was stunning and we went with Fulton Armory uppers. I have seen a bunch of these uppers go through our SDM courses over the last eight months. All function flawlessly and hold some very good accuracy with the issued M-855. That after a year in combat with no repairs or rebuilds.

3/2 SBCT got 220 rack grade M-14s prior to deployment two plus years ago. I was with them when they first shot them. I was surprised that only two had to have serious work done in order to function. They had a decent bridge mount on about 180 of them and a Leupold Vari X tactical optic. 3/2 found out real fast that just because they have a scope on them doesn't mean they will shoot any better than a rack grade. While in Iraq, some of these were altered using various stocks etc. 1/25th inherited them from 3/2. My best estimate is that 3/4 of them sat in arms rooms as guys didn't care for them due to recoil, weight, and length. The guys who liked them used them regularly. Most just dealt with their M-4 as they had a higher hit probability due to its low recoil.

My views of the M-14 are known in other threads.

Gene

Razor

05-03-2006, 20:58

Just ordered something fun. Will post pictures when I get it. :lifter

What, are you now taking posting cues from FS and A6? Spill the beans already, before someone sends you a new skirt to wear to the office. :p

jatx

05-04-2006, 04:58

I managed to get first in line to order one of these from John Noveske on Monday:

http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/cart2/detail.cgi?item_id=leonidas

Mine will have a 13.7" barrel w/ permanently atached KX3 to avoid the tax stamp. Because the Larue mounts are hard to get right now, the rail is going to be an inverted 12" PRI, which should save some weight and still give me the real estate for a foregrip and light. Optics are going to be the new Nightforce 1-4 NXS.

I can't wait, I've always wanted a combination flame thrower/ 1/2 MOA rifle. :D

Roguish Lawyer

05-04-2006, 08:54

What, are you now taking posting cues from FS and A6? Spill the beans already, before someone sends you a new skirt to wear to the office. :p

Unlike them, I have no pics because it is being built. :p

MSTN-built new upper receiver for my Colt H-Bar Target Rifle (CA pre-ban). Using LMT upper (1x7 barrel, M4 contour) with Larue 7.0 forend, LMT bolt carrier group, PRI Gas Buster charging handle, Troy rear sight, Larue EOTech mount, KAC sling mount and Dieter vert grip.

Team Sergeant

05-04-2006, 09:21

Roguish Lawyer

05-04-2006, 10:02

You trying to get disbarred? I cannot believe you wrote that!

Any LA attorney that can talk that sort of talk can run for Calif Gov.!

Good lord what have we created?

TS

LOL, I am the acorn that becomes the oak!

PSM

05-04-2006, 10:36

Forget Governor, you can't get elected Sheriff out here talking like this:

MSTN-built new upper receiver for my Colt H-Bar Target Rifle (CA pre-ban). Using LMT upper (1x7 barrel, M4 contour) with Larue 7.0 forend, LMT bolt carrier group, PRI Gas Buster charging handle, Troy rear sight, Larue EOTech mount, KAC sling mount and Dieter vert grip.

But, this just might work:

LOL, I am the acorn that becomes the oak!

:D

Pat

The Reaper

05-04-2006, 14:24

Now all you need is for someone to teach you how to use it properly.:rolleyes:

TR

Peregrino

05-04-2006, 15:48

Now all you need is for someone to teach you how to use it properly.:rolleyes:

TR

He does have several offers. And it looks like TS just got his up to speed too so he doesn't have to travel that far. Course I'm not an expert on transporting toys into/out of the Peoples Democratic Socialist Free Green State Republic of Kalifornia. After going through the trouble to acquire it he might want to leave it there to preclude border crossing incidents and borrow something at the training location. The usual Border Guard employee protecting the People's Sovereignty from dissent, free thought, and personal responsibility is well known for dilligence in the performance of his duties e.g. enforcement of the People's dictat against impliments of evil. (I better quit before I really stick my foot in my mouth!) :p Peregrino

Roguish Lawyer

05-04-2006, 15:58

Now all you need is for someone to teach you how to use it properly.:rolleyes:

TR

I have a superlative instructor, thank you.

The Reaper

05-04-2006, 16:00

I have a superlative instructor, thank you.

Non-resident, of course.

It would probably be illegal to import him to Kali.:D

TR

HOLLiS

05-04-2006, 16:17

He does have several offers. And it looks like TS just got his up to speed too so he doesn't have to travel that far. Course I'm not an expert on transporting toys into/out of the Peoples Democratic Socialist Free Green State Republic of Kalifornia. After going through the trouble to acquire it he might want to leave it there to preclude border crossing incidents and borrow something at the training location. The usual Border Guard employee protecting the People's Sovereignty from dissent, free thought, and personal responsibility is well known for dilligence in the performance of his duties e.g. enforcement of the People's dictat against impliments of evil. (I better quit before I really stick my foot in my mouth!) :p Peregrino

I thought you were doing very good in descibing the PDSFRGSRofK.

Roguish Lawyer

05-04-2006, 16:40

I thought you were doing very good in descibing the PDSFRGSRofK.

LOL

But, uh, which state do you live in again? :rolleyes:

HOLLiS

05-04-2006, 16:53

LOL

But, uh, which state do you live in again? :rolleyes:

OH OH, well Not the whole state, only Eugene (still living in the 60's/70's hippy times) and Portland are similar to Oregon's Southen neighbor.

Our gun laws are pretty lax.

Roguish Lawyer

05-04-2006, 16:57

Hey, at least I don't live in Vermont! :munchin

HOLLiS

05-04-2006, 17:08

Hey, at least I don't live in Vermont! :munchin

Maybe we can give Vermont to the Canadians....... :rolleyes:

M4Guru

05-04-2006, 18:03

Is VT still the only state that any law-abiding citizen can carry a concealed firearm without needing a permit?

Guess it doesn't matter since there aren't any guns to carry....:D

bberkley

05-10-2006, 19:17

Unlike them, I have no pics because it is being built. :p

MSTN-built new upper receiver for my Colt H-Bar Target Rifle (CA pre-ban). Using LMT upper (1x7 barrel, M4 contour) with Larue 7.0 forend, LMT bolt carrier group, PRI Gas Buster charging handle, Troy rear sight, Larue EOTech mount, KAC sling mount and Dieter vert grip.

I sold my he-man club upper that TS was mocking me for and ordered a MSTN-built 6.8 SPC upper with a 16" Douglas recce contour SS bbl, mid-length gas system, MSTN QC brake, low-profile gas block, Stag upper, LMT full-auto bolt carrier, hard chrome fitted 6.8 bolt, PRI gas buster CH, and a PRI carbon fiber 12" competition forearm. And I bought an Acog TA31F for it.

And I do have a pic (from their website) of what my new upper should resemble....

NousDefionsDoc

05-10-2006, 19:24

I sold my he-man club upper that TS was mocking me for and ordered a MSTN-built 6.8 SPC upper with a 16" Douglas recce contour SS bbl, mid-length gas system, MSTN QC brake, low-profile gas block, Stag upper, LMT full-auto bolt carrier, hard chrome fitted 6.8 bolt, PRI gas buster CH, and a PRI carbon fiber 12" competition forearm. And I bought an Acog TA31F for it.

And I do have a pic (from their website) of what my new upper should resemble....
Nice, can I have it?

Why's it got legs?

bberkley

05-10-2006, 19:29

Nice, can I have it?

Why's it got legs?

ND, you would have to ask MSTN. That's their pic. Mine will have a couple of bipod studs on the forearm, one for the opportunity to mount legs should I choose to do so, and one on the left side for those USPSA matches where you have to pick it off the table (Paul at MSTN said it helps prop the rifle nicely).

The lower this is going on has a Magpul M93B stock and SPR grip. My 16" M4gery is getting a new stock, either a VLTOR, or RRA 6 position.

And no, you can't have it. :)

The Reaper

05-10-2006, 19:37

bberkley:

You Sir, have stroked one big-assed check!

Why not the Crane/LMT SOPMOD stock to go with it?

TR

NousDefionsDoc

05-10-2006, 19:40

And what does "M4gery" mean?

The Reaper

05-10-2006, 19:59

Dictionary

M4·ger·y (em-fôr'jə-rē, fōr'-) n., pl. -ies.

Civilian rifles made of some, (or none) of the components of the Colt M-4 Carbine in an effort to duplicate its appearance and therefore acquire the coolness by association with the operators who use the real M-4. M4geries are the favored weapon of MegaForce and mall-ninjas. The act of M4ging, especially the illegal production of counterfeit M-4s.

Wes and Paul at MSTN do build fine rifles. I have been to the shop and seen them being built, those guys are perfectionists. Wes's shop is cleaner than my kitchen. Not sure if that says more about him, or me. ;)

TR