01-18-2019, 23:32
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Originally Posted by Pete
Five of Maduro’s Big Lenders Want Their Money Back. Good Luck.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/world...2563&vcid=8714
Get in there first before it's all gone. Well, it is all gone so they're going to be fighting over scraps.
"Five investment firms holding $380 million of one of Venezuela’s bonds demanded payment of both the principal and unpaid interest on Monday. This could be the trigger that unleashes an avalanche of claims by more than 40 creditors holding $150 billion of Venezuela’s debt.
The Marxist regimes that have controlled Venezuela for the last 20 years have finally run out of other people’s money, and now those other people want it back....."
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A classmate of mine from grad school is a very experienced lawyer specialising in international recovery of assets/debts including debt owed by sovereign nations.
Some pretty interesting stuff.
She’s had all kinds of assets seized.
Maybe Venezuela has identifiable foreign assets worth seizing.
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01-18-2019, 23:42
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#242
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I recently finished an outstanding book called Covert Action:
https://www.amazon.com/Covert-Action.../dp/0393247007
A great read on President Reagan’s CIA backed non kinetic effort to support Solidarity and implode Communism in Poland, the Warsaw Pact, and eventually the Soviet Union.
What I took from it was the simplistic “good versus evil” capitalism versus communism battle of ideologies was successful when partnered with and supporting an indigenous freedom movement.
Hopefully the sme result is achieved in Venezuela.
However, with how long Zimbabwe was kept on life support under Mugabe and drip fed by China.....perhaps it may take much longer with subsidy from China.
My concern would be China looking at Venezuela like the US/UK did in 1953.
Monroe Doctrine be damned.
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01-21-2019, 14:03
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#243
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National Guard soldiers "revolt" put down
Things continuing to spiral:
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CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Venezuela plunged deeper into turmoil on Monday as security forces put down a pre-dawn uprising by national guardsmen that triggered violent street protests and the Supreme Court outlawed the opposition-controlled congress’ defiant new leadership
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Story here
Look through the photos associated I noted two things:
1. A disarmed populace throwing rocks.
2. A well armed national police force.
Just an observation
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01-21-2019, 14:06
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#244
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ret10Echo
1. A disarmed populace throwing rocks.
2. A well armed national police force.
Just an observation
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Democrat Socialists' wet dream.
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01-22-2019, 08:53
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Always remember, you can’t have a so called “socialist paradise” with a truly free and well armed citizenry.
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01-22-2019, 14:33
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Meanwhile in neighboring Brazil:
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SAO GONCALO, Brazil (AP) — Fearing for his safety amid rising crime in Latin America’s largest nation, Paulo Alberto joined a gun club three years ago and learned to shoot. But he says Brazil’s tight carry laws that mean he can’t take his gun anywhere but to the club limit his ability to protect himself outside his home.
“The current laws are very strict and end up helping out the thugs,” Alberto said between rounds at the Calibre 12 gun club in this city across Guanabara Bay from Rio de Janeiro. “We need laws to make it easier to both possess and carry guns.”
It’s a view held by many, including Brazil’s new President Jair Bolsonaro. On Tuesday, Bolsonaro, a former army captain who waves to supporters with his hands in the shape of pistols, took a first step toward dramatically increasing the number of guns in Brazil, the nation that leads the world in total homicides.
By decree, Bolsonaro eliminated the requirement that aspiring gun owners justify to federal police officials why they need a firearm, creating instead a wide range of qualifying circumstances. The categories are so broad — citizens living in rural areas, those in urban areas with high levels of homicide, business owners, gun collectors and hunters — that just about any citizen age 25 or older wanting a firearm could effectively get one.
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01-22-2019, 14:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ret10Echo
Meanwhile in neighboring Brazil:
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How long before the homicide rate plummets and crime drops to historic levels?
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01-22-2019, 15:26
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How many times has it been said - "gun control has nothing to do with guns"
Central America - South America - North America - North Pole - south Pole - South Bronx - Bucking Broncs....
We might as well blame spoons for obesity.
If we controlled the size of spoons - fat people wouldn't be able to eat as much.
If we ban spoons, well - we'll all get skinny.
I mean for fuck sake - if you want to see a success story that correctly illustrates what a successful socialist society looks like - go no further than Venezuela.
Venezuela is NOT a failing state - at least not in the context of socialism - it is a socialist success story.
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01-22-2019, 15:50
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Meh.... Who cares. According to O-C the LIKE world is going to LIKE end in LIKE 12 years due to LIKE climate change.....
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01-22-2019, 16:00
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Meh.... Who cares. According to O-C the LIKE world is going to LIKE end in LIKE 12 Months due to LIKE climate change.....
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Oh, SNAP! I thought I had 12 years left.
Whenever things settle down POTUS should approve a CODEL junket for her to Venezuela - one way.
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01-22-2019, 16:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badger52
Oh, SNAP! I thought I had 12 years left.
Whenever things settle down POTUS should approve a CODEL junket for her to Venezuela - one way.
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FAKE NEWS
I fixed it
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01-22-2019, 16:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badger52
Oh, SNAP! I thought I had 12 years left.
Whenever things settle down POTUS should approve a CODEL junket for her to Venezuela - one way.
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Nah....just drop her off unannounced with no papers and no security detail and let her have what I am sure will be an extremely enjoyable immersive experience on the future she envisions for America....
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01-23-2019, 13:45
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Maduro just deposed?
This just in from CBC, in Canada:
BREAKING: Global Affairs Canada tells CBC News that Canada will recognize Juan Guaido as the new president of Venezuela. The opposition leader took an oath in Caracas a short time ago, declaring himself acting president and saying Nicolas Maduro has been deposed. The United States is also recognizing Venezuelan National Assembly President Juan Guaido as the interim president of Venezuela, according to this statement issued by the White House (document attached). Our latest story on the unrest that has erupted in mass protests today all over Venezuela, calling for an end to the authoritarian regime of Nicolas Maduro: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/venezu...duro-1.4988532
Venezuela's Opposition leader Juan Guaido declares himself interim president, recognized by Canada and the U.S. Guaido has led a campaign to declare Nicolas Maduro a usurper: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/venezu...duro-1.4989733
And then, this: Trump Recognizes Guaido as Venezuela Leader, Challenging Maduro:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...uela-president
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01-23-2019, 14:31
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#254
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Maduro just announced his government is breaking off relations with the United States. Endgame at hand?
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01-23-2019, 14:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airbornelawyer
Maduro just announced his government is breaking off relations with the United States. Endgame at hand?
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I sure hope so. 20 years of "workers paradise" should be more than enough, for anyone.
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