03-19-2004, 19:13
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Gorilla Uprising
Here in Dallas yesterday, a gorilla escaped from the Zoo and hurt 4 only to be shot by the Dallas PD swat folks. Lets hear some ideas on this type of counter- Gorilla operation!
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03-21-2004, 15:56
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You'd think they could have found an animal control-type with a tranquilizer dart or something. Fine to kill it if you have to, but it's a shame I think.
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03-21-2004, 16:19
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You'd think they could have found an animal control-type with a tranquilizer dart or something. Fine to kill it if you have to, but it's a shame I think.
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Zoo should have had that stuff on hand. No response plan for an escaped dangerous animal, or failed to implement it? Guess it will all come out in the trial.
Not the cops' reponsibility to tranquilize exotic animals. Sounds like they got there before animal control.
G chewed up several people, including gnawing on a little kid's head, cops allegedly fired when the G charged them.
Wonder who the first cop will be to paint a small gorilla on the side of his cruiser?
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03-21-2004, 16:23
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cops allegedly fired when the G charged them.
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Of course. Cops only fire when necessary, right?
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03-21-2004, 16:41
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From the local news, it sounded like the animal control folks were present, as well as the dallas PD SWAT guys. My impression is that animal control was looking for the animal, and that the police were there for containment if it got past the zoo authorities. I agree, it is a shame.
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03-21-2004, 16:47
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Of course. Cops only fire when necessary, right?
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You looking for another argument?
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03-21-2004, 16:54
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You looking for another argument?
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Nah. It's been done. http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...=&threadid=667
But I'm hoping for a reply from you on the Bill of Rights Rewrite.
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03-21-2004, 17:54
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I thought they were vegetarians!!
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03-21-2004, 18:24
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They are vegetarians. He (the gorilla) didn't eat anybody, he just tasted a few folks.
News reports here in Dallas state that the tranquilizer guns were deployed. The area of the zoo where the animal was loose is heavily wooded resembling a central African environment. Visibility is extremely limited. There were still zoo visitors in the area. The gorilla apparently came out of the bushes where there were two police officers instead of the zoo marksmen. Then he inconsiderately charged those two. The proper protocol for dealing with a loose three hundred pound gorilla charging you in close quarters is to shoot it with whatever you have. Sound logical to me.
The designated emergency response team (zoo employees) does train with the Dallas PD on the emergency procedures for dangerous animals loose in the zoo. This includes range firing.
So this wasn't a wanton killing of a poor defenseless animal by cops out of control.
It was the unfortunate (for the gorilla especially) end of a planned response to an anticipated emergency. A well executed contingency plan.
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03-21-2004, 18:34
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They are vegetarians. He (the gorilla) didn't eat anybody, he just tasted a few folks.
News reports here in Dallas state that the tranquilizer guns were deployed. The area of the zoo where the animal was loose is heavily wooded resembling a central African environment. Visibility is extremely limited. There were still zoo visitors in the area. The gorilla apparently came out of the bushes where there were two police officers instead of the zoo marksmen. Then he inconsiderately charged those two. The proper protocol for dealing with a loose three hundred pound gorilla charging you in close quarters is to shoot it with whatever you have. Sound logical to me.
The designated emergency response team (zoo employees) does train with the Dallas PD on the emergency procedures for dangerous animals loose in the zoo. This includes range firing.
So this wasn't a wanton killing of a poor defenseless animal by cops out of control.
It was the unfortunate (for the gorilla especially) end of a planned response to an anticipated emergency. A well executed contingency plan.
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Good to hear.
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03-22-2004, 11:04
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This same thing happened in Boston about two months back with the gorilla being captured
Some folks who saw the gorilla running down the street didn't think it was odd - they honestly thought it was a kid with a big backpack
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