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Old 11-08-2022, 09:57   #1651
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The real mark of success will be reading an article that shows the uptick in newly issued carry permits

...or the uptick in lawsuits because New York told the courts to fuck right off
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Old 11-22-2022, 20:55   #1652
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New York gets smacked down again.
They will, of course, appeal.

At this point New York and other states are just stalling.
This only serves to build a very strong foundation from an abundance of cases citing the Bruen decision.

If it goes up again, SCOTUS may end up freeing gun rights even further.
Heller, McDonald, Bruen…the arc of history is bending towards liberty.

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Old 11-23-2022, 05:11   #1653
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At this point New York and other states are just stalling.
This only serves to build a very strong foundation from an abundance of cases citing the Bruen decision.
Good again to see a jurist coming from the perspective of "that which is not expressly prohibited is permitted" rather than the NY (and others) approach of "you can't do it unless I say so." The former is the proper state of affairs.
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Old 11-23-2022, 07:21   #1654
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At this point it is more than clear what the “state” is doing. They are picking a fight. They WANT the “Citizens of the several states” to just start shooting at them (either directly or with lawsuits) in rebellion.

By behaving this way, when (not if) another lunatic with a “high-powered-assault-machine-pistol-with-a-100-round-magazine-clip-firing-fully-semi-automatic-with-a-sniper-night-sight” starts shooting kids on a playground or homosexuals at a night club (an/or congress) then there can be cries of “we, the sensible gun control party, told you this was going to happen”….

Now get in the train car, it’s for your own good….

Or in the words of Mr. Box, “Eat your peas!”
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Old 11-23-2022, 09:59   #1655
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Or in the words of Mr. Box, “Eat your peas!”
Dear sweet Jesus - "Mr" ??
Seriously?
You said Mr?
...are you seriously assuming my gender while posting about a socially sensitive topic?

C'mon man. You're better than that. "Box" is a gender-less pronoun that encompasses all that is marvelous in the known universe. The nonsense and frivolity that rests at my core transcend gender. A Box has no gender - it just, "is"
...which is a difficult concept in and of itself - just ask Bill Clinton - he testified under oath that he wasn't sure about the definition of the word "is"

Not to mention, we the people just nominated, confirmed, and seated a supreme court Justice that doesn't know what a woman "is"

When a POTUS that isn't sure about the word "is" and a SCOTUS with two "X" chromosomes can testify before congress that she can't define what a 'woman' is without consulting with a Biologist, then certainly we can't just assume the existential binary identity status of Box and when the executive branch and judicial branch can't figure out things like "is" or the gender associated with their own chromosomal makeup, clearly they can't be trusted figure out something as nuanced as responsible gun ownership.

Now, since this "is" a 2a thread let me steer my post back on topic by stating that even guns can be figured out when it comes to gender:
243 "is" a Girl Hunting Caliber
308 "is" a Male Hunting Caliber
380 and 9x19 are Female Concealed Carry Calibers
45 ACP "is" a Male Concealed Carry Caliber
...and since a 1911 chambered in 9x19 can be a male OR female concealed carry pistol; we can clearly assume that guns can be completely nonbinary which proves that guns are for everyone


that is all
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Old 11-23-2022, 19:18   #1656
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They WANT the “Citizens of the several states” to just start shooting at them (either directly or with lawsuits) in rebellion.
Teaser.
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Old 11-27-2022, 04:00   #1657
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Law Banning Gun Possession due to Restraining Order Unconstitutional

Good coverage of this case by Ammoland here.

Meat of the matter:
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Before Bruen, the Second Amendment looked like an abandoned cabin in the woods. A knot of vines, weeds, and roots, left unkempt for decades, crawling up the cabin’s sides as if pulling it under the earth. Firearm regulations are that overgrowth. Starting with the Federal Firearms Act in 1938, laws were passed with little—if any—consideration given to their constitutionality. That is, until the Supreme Court intervened in Bruen.

Judge Counts concludes with this:

That said, this Court embraces Bruen’s charge. Thus, after sifting through the history above, this Court finds that the Government did not prove that §922(g)(8) aligns with this Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation and declines the Government’s invitation to insert its own public policy concerns rather than following Bruen. As a result, the Court holds that § 922(g)(8) is unconstitutional under Bruen’s framework.

Before and after the passage of the controversial Lautenberg Amendment in 1996, many commentators noted several constitutional problems with the law.

It was the first time a fundamental constitutional right could be removed for a misdemeanor;
It was the first time a fundamental constitutional right could be removed for a restraining order;
The amendment punished people for past behavior, thus, it was an ex-post-facto law.

When courts were presented with these arguments, the counterarguments were:

The Second Amendment is not an individual right;
People are not being punished for past acts, but for acts in the present; if they possess firearms in the present, they are violating the law (this presumes removing a constitutional right is not punishment)

Judge Counts’ opinion sweeps away those excuses. As Bruen shows the Second Amendment as a fundamental right on par with the First Amendment, those arguments no longer apply.

The Supreme Court has held a person whose constitutional rights are violated, even for a moment, suffers irreparable harm.
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Old 11-27-2022, 07:08   #1658
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Am I the only one thinking “hey, how about I go and do something to get arrested like build a machine-gun so I can sue the fed-bois and get the entire NFA tossed out”?

Yeah, it would be a pain in the ass, but I’m retired and don’t have shit else to do?

“I’m gonna go pick a fight”…….
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Old 11-27-2022, 10:39   #1659
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“I’m gonna go pick a fight”…….
Planning is key. Get yourself a legal team willing to go the distance (get it in writing). Start a legal fund - market it. Video the build and arrest.

Oh, and cleanse thy life, computers, electronic history, abode, and friends list.

Double oh, carry a toothbrush...

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Addendum: I've long said if I needed a lawyer, I'd check with cop friends and prosecutors to see who they considered the biggest son of a bitch around. Then I'd hire that son of a bitch.
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Am I the only one thinking “hey, how about I go and do something to get arrested like build a machine-gun so I can sue the fed-bois and get the entire NFA tossed out”?

Yeah, it would be a pain in the ass, but I’m retired and don’t have shit else to do?

“I’m gonna go pick a fight”…….
Sounds like a plan...
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