04-30-2016, 08:40
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#871
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The Court has held that “the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding,”
District of Columbia v. Heller , 554 U. S. 570, 582 (2008)
One would think state and local authority would read and understand the plain language of 2nd A and Supreme Court decisions.
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05-03-2016, 06:47
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#872
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Obama Administration Moves Forward With Stripping Gun Rights Through Social Security
Obama Administration Moves Forward With Stripping Gun Rights Through Social Security
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepa...n2156896/print
"Late last week President Obama announced a new push for additional federal "smart" gun technology funding. After grabbing headlines and much attention, the move received praise from gun control groups like Michael Bloomberg's Everytown and criticism from law enforcement, the NRA and the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
But an issue flying under the radar in Obama's announcement is the Administration's decision to move forward with gun control measures through the Social Security system. Late last year it became clear if an individuals needs financial help managing Social Security benefits, the agency can deem that person mentally unfit to purchase a firearm. This policy is already in place at the Veteran's Administration, where people who have been assigned a "representative payee" have been permanently placed into the NICS background check system as ineligible to purchase a firearm without due process, a hearing or a trial. As background from the LA Times, bolding is mine:..."
First VA and now SS. Just wait until PTSD gets thrown into the mix.
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05-03-2016, 10:42
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#873
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obama can go screw himself, as some of us will not abide by his rules
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Originally Posted by Pete
Obama Administration Moves Forward With Stripping Gun Rights Through Social Security
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepa...n2156896/print
But an issue flying under the radar in Obama's announcement is the Administration's decision to move forward with gun control measures through the Social Security system. Late last year it became clear if an individuals needs financial help managing Social Security benefits, the agency can deem that person mentally unfit to purchase a firearm. This policy is already in place at the Veteran's Administration, where people who have been assigned a "representative payee" have been permanently placed into the NICS background check system as ineligible to purchase a firearm without due process, a hearing or a trial. As background from the LA Times, bolding is mine:..."
First VA and now SS. Just wait until PTSD gets thrown into the mix.
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obama and the socialists/progressives can go screw themselves, as some of us will not abide by their rules.
MOLON LABE you spineless socialist cowards, MOLON LABE
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05-03-2016, 14:39
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#874
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Originally Posted by Pete
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Illegal to as Executive Orders for Obama to do. Also Not IAW 14th A due process clause. There needs to be more Sheriff's to stand up against illegal orders.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/gun-confi..._trk=ma&ref=gs
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05-03-2016, 15:34
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Originally Posted by pcfixer
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Former AZ Sheriff Richard Mack successfully challenged the Brady Bill which would have required police chiefs and sheriffs to do the background checks for gun purchases. He said, “We went through a lawful process to show the government is out of control, to force sheriffs to comply.” He also said that U.S. District Judge John Roll, who was killed in the attack on U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in Arizona, summed up every sheriff’s dilemma: “He said I was forced to choose between obeying the law or keeping my oath of office. He described my problem in one sentence.”
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05-03-2016, 16:41
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Here is an interesting group of Sheriffs the Second and 14th Amendments are high on their support list.
Our Mission
THE CSPOA MISSION
To Protect, Serve, Uphold, and Defend.
http://cspoa.org/our-mission/
The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association seeks to Protect, Serve, Uphold, and Defend each citizen’s Natural, Unalienable Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness as outlined in our Bill of Rights, and our Constitution.
To this end, the CSPOA seeks to educate, empower, encourage, and activate Citizens to elect, support, and rely upon Constitutional County Sheriffs, Peace Officers, and Constitutional Public Officials who understand the ethical application of The Oath of Office which they swore to uphold for our safety and peace, protecting individual liberty from all enemies, both foreign and domestic; in thought, word, and deed..
Our Constitutional Sheriffs, Peace Officers, and Elected Officials must provide a bulwark of protection of our Natural, Unalienable Rights; it is upon this strong foundation that we confidently build our families, our communities, our Sovereign States, and our Nation.
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05-11-2016, 00:50
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Gun Rights
I was speaking with a lawyer, he is a former Ranger. His firm and a couple others have been creating "Gun Trusts" for clients that request them. My very limited legal understanding is it works just like other trusts, the Trustee controls the guns just like he or she was the owner. Buy, sell, shoot, loan them out etc. only thing is the Trust owns the guns. Sounds like that might be a workable solution. Of course, a Trust specifically for guns is relatively new, and has not been tested in court by this DoJ and other anti 2nd Amendment groups  but, having one might by a little time and space.
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05-18-2016, 14:03
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Hey Joe Salazar, can you hear us now?
In 2013, CO House Rep. advocated that all women needed was a whistle before passing some of Colorado's onerous anti-gun laws.
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05-18-2016, 16:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MR2
In 2013, CO House Rep. advocated that all women needed was a whistle before passing some of Colorado's onerous anti-gun laws.
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Went to a funeral last month and saw one of my mothers "80 year old" friends. Discussion came up about carrying and he shows me his TAURUS 4510PD-3B REVOLVER | .45/.410.
I just said, "good for you!"
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05-25-2016, 15:30
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06-12-2016, 18:27
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They really are that stupid.
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06-12-2016, 18:50
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Originally Posted by MR2
They really are that stupid.
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Yep...a bunch of subject-matter-experts right there! Some people should simply keep their mouths shut...but they insist on proving they are idiots.
Schmucks!
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06-14-2016, 15:49
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Gretchen Carlson, you're an idiot.
Gretchen Carlson, you're an idiot.
Your gun knowledge is zero. You really should talk to a gun "expert" before ranting against a gun/tool.
There's about 1000 guns that can and will do what Mateen did with an AR-15, he just so happened to use an AR-15. And like you he was a gun novice. Your argument against the AR-15 is on par with using a Ferrari or a Volkswagen to run someone down.
Tell me Gretchen Carlson, who do you think could kill more folks firing a gun, your mother using an AR-15 or a trained soldier firing a revolver?
The AR-15 is a tool, a gun and called by some "assault rifle". And we all know who made up that socialist term, "assault rifle". A gun is no more "powerful" or "deadly" than the joker wielding it. Same goes for most "tools", knives, swords, spears, cannons, bows, etc etc etc
But go ahead and rant like the mindless socialist you really are....
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a62_1465938002
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06-14-2016, 16:23
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Hey Gretchen if that Orlando POS Muslim murderer doesn't represent all Muslims...why would that same POS Muslim murderer represent all modern sporting rifle owners?
Sorry Gretchen on this topic you are an idiot.
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06-14-2016, 17:25
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I must be a terrorist
Not that I own an assault rifle, but it seems that the CinC in his twisted liberal logic thinks banning them will go a long way towards ending terrorism. He really seemed livid during his remarks I think he's losing it.
In his remarks, Obama also pushed for an assault weapons ban and declared, 'Enough talking about being tough on terrorism. Actually be tough on terrorism.'
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