01-24-2012, 10:37
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'Islam Is Islam, And That's It'
'Islam Is Islam, And That's It'
The Arab Spring was not hijacked.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org...pub_detail.asp
An interesting read. Most of which many of us knew already.
"The tumult indelibly dubbed “the Arab Spring” in the West, by the credulous and the calculating alike, is easier to understand once you grasp two basics. First, the most important fact in the Arab world — as well as in Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and other neighboring non-Arab territories — is Islam. It is not poverty, illiteracy, or the lack of modern democratic institutions. These, like anti-Semitism, anti-Americanism, and an insular propensity to buy into conspiracy theories featuring infidel villains, are effects of Islam’s regional hegemony and supremacist tendency, not causes of it. One need not be led to that which pervades the air one breathes..........................."
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01-24-2012, 10:54
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Originally Posted by Pete
'Islam Is Islam, And That's It'
The Arab Spring was not hijacked.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org...pub_detail.asp
An interesting read. Most of which many of us knew already.
"The tumult indelibly dubbed “the Arab Spring” in the West, by the credulous and the calculating alike, is easier to understand once you grasp two basics. First, the most important fact in the Arab world — as well as in Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and other neighboring non-Arab territories — is Islam. It is not poverty, illiteracy, or the lack of modern democratic institutions. These, like anti-Semitism, anti-Americanism, and an insular propensity to buy into conspiracy theories featuring infidel villains, are effects of Islam’s regional hegemony and supremacist tendency, not causes of it. One need not be led to that which pervades the air one breathes..........................."
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That cause is nothing less than Islamic dominance...........
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01-24-2012, 13:50
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Thanks for that link. That is worth circulating amongst one's circle & beyond. I'll go out on a limb & posit that the author doesn't have one of the VIP seats at tonight's State of the Union...
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01-25-2012, 00:08
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Originally Posted by Badger52
Thanks for that link. That is worth circulating amongst one's circle & beyond. I'll go out on a limb & posit that the author doesn't have one of the VIP seats at tonight's State of the Union...
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Most likely not, This guy doesnt even recognize Islam for what it is. He refers to Islam as a culture. It really gets under my skin when so called "know-it-alls" try to mix religion with politics in foriegn cultures, yet they totally ignore it in their own back yard.
Ths title should read, "Islam is what the Author thinks it is".
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01-25-2012, 09:38
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Most likely not, This guy doesnt even recognize Islam for what it is. He refers to Islam as a culture.
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Ok then. What is Islam?
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01-25-2012, 09:54
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The answer will depend
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Ok then. What is Islam?
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The answer will depend on if you're an 80%er or a 20%er.
But the religion of peace was toasting some more civilians in Bagdad the last day or so.
Boko Haram is working hard to get out front in the church burning and civilian slaughtering tally count.
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01-25-2012, 10:08
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Ok then. What is Islam?
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Islam is a political movement with spiritual undertones.
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01-25-2012, 11:06
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Originally Posted by Pete
'Islam Is Islam, And That's It'
The Arab Spring was not hijacked.
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Depends where, Strafor[1] had an interesting analysis on the "Arab Spring" in Egypt, they make a good argument for its being manufactured by the military rulers.
[1]http://web.archive.org/web/20110716152601/http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110213-egypt-distance-between-enthusiasm-and-reality
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01-31-2012, 09:42
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Most likely not, This guy doesnt even recognize Islam for what it is. He refers to Islam as a culture.
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Originally Posted by SF-TX
Ok then. What is Islam?
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01-31-2012, 10:16
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Buncha shit...just take your pick...
- Taoism - Shit happens.
- Hinduism - This shit happened before.
- Islam - This shit is whack!
- Buddhism - When shit happens, is it really shit?
- 7th Day Adventists - Shit happens on Saturday.
- Catholicism - Shit won't happen if I work harder.
- Protestantism - If shit happens, I deserved it.
- Jehovah's Witnesses - Knock, knock...shit happens.
- Judaism - Why does shit always happen to me?
- Harekrishna - Shit happens, rama rama ding dong!
- Atheism - No shit.
- Mormonism - Can you believe this shit!
- TV Eangelism - Send more shit.
- Rastafarianism - Let's smoke some shit.
And so it goes...
Richard
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01-31-2012, 11:22
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^^^^ Richard...LMAO...good ones..
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01-31-2012, 11:32
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Muslims Declare Jihad on Dogs in Europe
Muslims Declare Jihad on Dogs in Europe
http://www.stonegateinstitute.org/27...an-dogs-europe
".........In Spain, two Islamic groups based in Lérida -- a city in the northeastern region of Catalonia where 29,000 Muslims now make up around 20% of the city's total population -- asked local officials to regulate the presence of dogs in public spaces so they do not "offend Muslims."
Muslims demanded that dogs be banned from all forms of public transportation including all city buses as well as from all areas frequented by Muslim immigrants. Muslims said the presence of dogs in Lérida violates their religious freedom and their right to live according to Islamic principles.................."
They throw service dogs right in there with everything else.
Darn, there's that pesky 20% again. When they get to be 20% of the population....
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02-01-2012, 00:42
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Muslims Declare Jihad on Dogs in Europe
http://www.stonegateinstitute.org/27...an-dogs-europe
".........In Spain, two Islamic groups based in Lérida -- a city in the northeastern region of Catalonia where 29,000 Muslims now make up around 20% of the city's total population -- asked local officials to regulate the presence of dogs in public spaces so they do not "offend Muslims."
Muslims demanded that dogs be banned from all forms of public transportation including all city buses as well as from all areas frequented by Muslim immigrants. Muslims said the presence of dogs in Lérida violates their religious freedom and their right to live according to Islamic principles.................."
They throw service dogs right in there with everything else.
Darn, there's that pesky 20% again. When they get to be 20% of the population....
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This is upsurd for them to ask for the limited presence of dogs "not to offend muslims". In Islam dogs are permitted 100%, I personally know quite a few who own dogs and treat them as if they were their own kids. Dogs are widly used for protection, sheep herding, hunting etc in Islamic countries and they are greatly respected.
For those opposed to dogs in public places because they are offended are not real muslims. Usually these people are Pakistani, Indian, Bangali, Srilankan.
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02-03-2012, 07:36
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This is upsurd for them to ask for the limited presence of dogs "not to offend muslims". In Islam dogs are permitted 100%, I personally know quite a few who own dogs and treat them as if they were their own kids. Dogs are widly used for protection, sheep herding, hunting etc in Islamic countries and they are greatly respected.
For those opposed to dogs in public places because they are offended are not real muslims. Usually these people are Pakistani, Indian, Bangali, Srilankan.
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wmaousley,
You have still not answered the question, 'What is Islam?', that was posted earlier. While you are answering that question, also provide support for your claim that '...in Islam dogs are permitted 100%.' Is it your intent to come across as an Islamist apologist?
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02-04-2012, 23:28
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Most likely not, This guy doesnt even recognize Islam for what it is. He refers to Islam as a culture.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SF-TX
Ok then. What is Islam?
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wmaousley,
You live in the Middle East and work for Oil & Gas. You apparently have unique insight into Islam. I, too, would like to hear your answer.
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