02-21-2011, 13:59
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The periods in the acronym...what's the hidden message there? CIA = U.N.C.L.E. ???? 
Since he's a contractor, I'm not sure he's afforded the same protection as a regular staff officer such as Valerie Plame. Interesting dilemma nevertheless. 3 weeks in an ISI "detention facility", damn. Hang tough Ray! 
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02-21-2011, 14:00
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I wonder who "outed" him as a CIA agent?
Seems the last time this happened the MSM went onto a nut roll trying to find out who did it.
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This is another good reason why you can't trust people who have access to this type of privy information......... It's always dangerous if your in covert operations that someone in our "own" government would sell you out for various reasons... 
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02-21-2011, 14:07
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This is another good reason why you can't trust people who have access to this type of privy information......... It's always dangerous if your in covert operations that someone in our "own" government would sell you out for various reasons............
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Big Teddy,
There has always been "Murphy's Laws" and the fact that he is guaranteed to show up when not needed. However, these days, there is another evil twin of his that is utilized. It is referred to as the " Kicked Under The Bus" Syndrome. It has been used a lot lately.  
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02-21-2011, 15:44
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They're good at outing themselves without any help. Just like Ms. Plame.
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02-21-2011, 15:57
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They're good at outing themselves without any help. Just like Ms. Plame.
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Huh?
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02-21-2011, 16:26
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Don't take the new movie as truth.
The neighbors knew she worked for the CIA. But that didn't fit the template of "Bad Bush" and the press quickly moved on to what version they wanted to show as the truth.
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02-21-2011, 16:45
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Pete-
I think Lindy was responding to the post as if written to mean that ALL CIA personnel were "good at outing themselves". Just a hunch. I don't think many on this site take ms plame's side of the issue in her particular circumstances. course' I could be wrong.
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02-22-2011, 12:14
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02-22-2011, 12:55
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There was no "all" in my post, implied or otherwise.
But it isn't exactly rare that they have had to be reminded that the way they conduct themselves (examples of which I am not going to post on an open forum) lends itself to self-outing. When every other official American is doing one thing, and you're supposed to be one of them but doing something completely different, well....it's not rocket science.
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02-22-2011, 13:42
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When every other official American is doing one thing, and you're supposed to be one of them but doing something completely different, well....it's not rocket science.
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That opinion indicates a decided lack of experience with embassy staffing and activities.
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02-22-2011, 13:46
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Please keep this thread unclassified.
No one needs to be getting into specifics of DoS and intelligence functions.
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02-22-2011, 15:50
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That opinion indicates a decided lack of experience with embassy staffing and activities.
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Hahahaha...hahahaha. That's funny LOL.
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02-22-2011, 16:23
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Hahahaha...hahahaha. That's funny LOL.
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I'm pretty sure this is NOT what is meant by "Always Out Front". 
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02-22-2011, 16:38
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Hahahaha...hahahaha. That's funny LOL.
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PM sent.
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02-24-2011, 01:11
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We talked about this in my class today, my professor is pretty sure the guy is CIA, and had some good theories about it.
Prayers go out to the man regardless, hopefully everything ends well.
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