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Old 05-28-2004, 23:54   #1
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Mystery Ranch ALICE frame

hey all you ALICE pack users out there,
here's a preview of the new Mystery Ranch/ Dana Gleason NICE ALICE frame and load carrier. ALICE pack compatible, and updates the frame to an internal, modern design.

http://www.militarymorons.com/equipm.../mystery1.html

(edited to add: the username and password are both 'mm' to view the large pics)
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Old 05-29-2004, 09:20   #2
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MM,

How adaptable to the single point release is this frame for abn ops?

Also, how do I get a password to access larger versions of the pics?

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Old 05-29-2004, 09:27   #3
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MM,

How adaptable to the single point release is this frame for abn ops?

Also, how do I get a password to access larger versions of the pics?

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i'm not sure about the first question - might want to email mystery ranch to ask that one. what's needed to do that? (i'm not familiar with the requirements)

the username and password are both 'mm'.
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Old 05-29-2004, 09:40   #4
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rgr...

email sent. Lets see what they have to say about it. It certainly looks like a comfortable frame.

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Old 05-29-2004, 10:03   #5
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MM, do you know if they are going to make a slick version without the cargo carrier? I like the inovation of the cargo carrier in theory, but most guys humping a ruck are never gonna need to use it in my opinion, and it just adds extra weight...

What's it retail for?

Looks great by the way...nice job presenting it.

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Old 05-29-2004, 19:06   #6
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footmobile,
that frame IS the slick version - it doesn't come with the load carrier (see the top row of pics - that's how the frame comes - without the carrier). the load carrier is an add-on accessory that's purchased seperately.
retail price is yet to be decided - the mystery ranch military site hasn't gone public yet.
thanks for the kind words.
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Old 05-30-2004, 09:45   #7
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How much of an advantage does this frame have over the Ali Pad from HSGI in your opinion? If you could have a choice of both, which one would you use?
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Old 05-30-2004, 11:47   #8
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footmobile,
i've never had any personal experience with the HSGI alipad, so i wouldn't be able to answer that question.
the alipad utilizes the ALICE frame, of course, and is a great improvement over the shoulder straps and waistbelt (from general consensus from those who have the alipad) - eggroll might be able to chime in on this. but if you don't HAVE to use the ALICE frame, the NICE ALICE might be a better choice as it's a completely new suspension system, not a retrofit to an old one.
just have to wait for more reports from the field as more guys test the NICE ALICE frame out.
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Old 05-30-2004, 20:15   #9
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The NALICE frame and Allie pad are apples and oranges. The NALICE is a completely new frame-No more breaking like on the ALICE. The Allie is just a band-aid to make the ALICE more bearable.
Also, you should be able to rig this frame with a single-point, of course it will depend on your unit whether or not you can jump it exposed. I suggest you use a jump bag if you have them available.
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Old 06-02-2004, 07:34   #10
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The web site says that the frame is $219; full combo (frame and load carrier) is $259.

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Old 07-17-2007, 16:34   #11
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Resurrection...

For those interested, General Jackson has the NICE frame in stock for $150.00 but only in Foliage Green (if you wanna call it green). Thought about picking one up and taking it to Sage but since I already have a ZXR, I can stand a few more weeks under the tick...

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Old 07-21-2007, 09:12   #12
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I bought one at General Jacksons a couple of weeks ago. So far I really like it. I've only done four roadmarches with it. Heaviest I went was 65 lbs and I found it to be very comfortable. The waist belt is nicely padded and has molle loops if you wanted to add a pouch or anything. I do not think it will be airborne compatible for the single point harness. My plan is either switch back to the old frame for jumps or get a jump bag. We start a new class in a few weeks so I will be under the ruck for a while logging lots of miles. If I end up not liking it I'll post it.
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...I do not think it will be airborne compatible for the single point harness...
I had given thought to getting one of them as well but decided on a ZXR instead. As for jumping, I had a rigger sew a lowering line to a 7' piece of A7A and had intended on using that for the lowering line attachment by wrapping it around the ruck body under the single point. This was suggested by a JM.

Hadn't given thought to the single point not working though...back to the drawing board on that I suppose.

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I had given thought to getting one of them as well but decided on a ZXR instead. As for jumping, I had a rigger sew a lowering line to a 7' piece of A7A and had intended on using that for the lowering line attachment by wrapping it around the ruck body under the single point. This was suggested by a JM.

Hadn't given thought to the single point not working though...back to the drawing board on that I suppose.

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Any non-standard air item without an airworthiness certification can be rejected by a JM, if he wants to be a jerk about it.

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Old 07-21-2007, 13:45   #15
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I would be interested if the waist band was cut off. I have yet to meet anyone who uses the waistband outside of Coscom. With that being said, I would never spend upwards of 200 bones on anything I would immediately cut up, and that I could not jump.

This looks like a mightmare if it were wet.
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