06-14-2010, 12:06
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Finding ore deposits is one thing. Getting them out is another. You will need:
1. Railroads to move the ore to ports (A-Stan has no ports). So either Iran or Pakistan will have to provide a way to an ocean port (can you say duties & taxes?)
2. Ships to transport the ore to mills.
No one will build a mill in A-Stan. An if they did you still need to get the product out (still no railroads or ports).
Good luck with making any money in this endevor.
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06-14-2010, 13:44
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Someone once told me that the Vietnam experience was nothing more than a 16 year campaign of the Cold War, with Russia and China obtaining Tin deposits and an increase in the number of warm water ports, of course at the expense of a few million Vietnamese.
Nothing changes.....
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06-14-2010, 15:15
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Mineral deposits
I sure hope this is good for stability but history would seem to say not. There are African countries with loads of minerals and they have brought nothing to the citizens. I think Aoresteen hit it right on the button
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06-14-2010, 15:35
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Amd let's not forget the Chinese contract to mine copper we discussed a while ago. Fraught with corruption and having no discernable benefit for the Afghani people. I don't see this as being any different.
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06-14-2010, 16:48
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If enough money is involved, it will be worked out. Oil has never stopped flowing out of the Middle East, even through the on again, off again state of warfare in the area. Instead of Oil Sheiks, we will have to deal with Lithium Guls...
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06-15-2010, 05:21
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Railroad
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aoresteen
Finding ore deposits is one thing. Getting them out is another. You will need:
1. Railroads to move the ore to ports (A-Stan has no ports). So either Iran or Pakistan will have to provide a way to an ocean port (can you say duties & taxes?)
2. Ships to transport the ore to mills.
No one will build a mill in A-Stan. An if they did you still need to get the product out (still no railroads or ports).
Good luck with making any money in this endevor.
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There is already a large and well publicized NATO railway going into Masar-E-Sharif being built. Has been for months.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...d-of-year.html
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06-15-2010, 05:26
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Not to mention the contiguous border with China.
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06-15-2010, 08:47
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Look at a map. The NATO railway from Mazar-i-Sharif goes north - it doesn't hit most of the discoverd areas.
For more info on A-Stan's railroads, see:
http://www.andrewgrantham.co.uk/afghanistan/tag/herat/
They plan on spending $5 billion to build new rail lines.
Here's an interesting quote from a rep of the National Mining Association:
"Sudan will host the Winter Olympics before these guys get a trillion dollars out of the ground," said Luke Popovich of the National Mining Assn., which represents U.S. mining companies.
Not going to happen anytime soon.
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06-17-2010, 05:42
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Let the bidding wars begin...
Afghanistan's untapped mineral wealth is worth at least $3 trillion — triple a U.S. estimate, according to the government's top mining official, who is going to Britain next week to attract foreign investors to mine one of the world's largest iron ore deposits in the heart of the war-torn nation.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/a...hooModule_News
And so it goes...
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06-18-2010, 04:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aoresteen
Finding ore deposits is one thing. Getting them out is another. You will need:
1. Railroads to move the ore to ports (A-Stan has no ports). So either Iran or Pakistan will have to provide a way to an ocean port (can you say duties & taxes?)
2. Ships to transport the ore to mills.
No one will build a mill in A-Stan. An if they did you still need to get the product out (still no railroads or ports).
Good luck with making any money in this endevor.
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Niger is landlocked and has not railroads yet its mines produce a large percentage of the total Unranium in the world. As Mark46th stated, if there is money to be made, somebody will work out a way to make it.
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06-18-2010, 11:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aoresteen
Look at a map. The NATO railway from Mazar-i-Sharif goes north - it doesn't hit most of the discoverd areas.
For more info on A-Stan's railroads, see:
http://www.andrewgrantham.co.uk/afghanistan/tag/herat/
They plan on spending $5 billion to build new rail lines.
Here's an interesting quote from a rep of the National Mining Association:
"Sudan will host the Winter Olympics before these guys get a trillion dollars out of the ground," said Luke Popovich of the National Mining Assn., which represents U.S. mining companies.
Not going to happen anytime soon. |
Video from Stratfor that argues the same points...
http://www.stratfor.com/analysis/201...1299d1cc87495d
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