Jordanian Kills Sister in Honor Killing

[SF-TX]

Florida Department of Law Enforcement earns an F

Center for Security Policy | Sep 16, 2009
By John D. Guandolo
[Note: John D. Guandolo is a 12 ½ year veteran of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. At the request of the Center for Security Policy, he prepared an assessment of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement’s (FDLE) investigation of the Ohio-based parents of former Muslim Rifqa Bary, the 17-year old apostate from Islam who has sought refuge in the state of Florida. The FDLE report is provided here, and is available as searchable text for the first time, below his analysis. The significant errors and omissions that Mr. Guandolo and other experts have found in this FDLE investigation show a failure in FDLE’s professional responsibility in handling the Rifqa Bary case. Governor Crist and FDLE management need to get new investigators on the job, start over, and this time do it right. A life may be at stake due to FDLE negligence-- and willful blindness-- in conducting this investigation.]


John D. Guandolo:
Response to FDLE Investigative Report on Rifqa Bary Matter

Upon my review of the report filed by the FDLE regarding the Rifqa Bary Matter in Florida, I offer my professional opinion.

1. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) Investigative Summary OR-73-1741 encapsulates the investigation into allegations made by Fathima Rifqa Bary (hereafter referred to as "Rifqa Bary") that she is or may be in physical danger from her father, Mohamed Bary, or others. Point 4 on page 2 of the report states Rifqa Bary believes her life to be in danger from an "honor killing" by her family or others, which she states is in accordance with Islamic Law. The report finds: "Ms. Bary's concern that she may be killed because of her conversion from Islam to Christianity remains a subjective and speculative concern..." and concludes there is no conspiracy to commit violence against her. The investigators in this matter offer this opinion void of any knowable facts. In fact, a due diligence review would reveal the existence of authoritative Islamic Law texts officially translated into English. This review would further reveal Islamic Law - which is real law - has requirements and rules as to how to deal with those who leave Islam [eg The Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law, "Umdat al-Salik" also known as "Reliance of the Traveller" - publicly available]. If it can be shown (1) there is a requirement in Islamic Law for killing Ms. Bary as a publicly declared apostate from Islam, (2) that her parents adhere to Islamic Law, and (3) that she did, in fact, leave Islam and convert to Christianity, then the FDLE has a professional responsibility to include these facts in this report, and investigate this matter fully. There is nothing subjective about this - these are all ascertainable facts. I would hope the Florida State's Attorney's Office has done their due diligence on this matter and is aware of this

2. Mr. Bary's comments to the Investigators claiming there is "absolutely not" any concept of Honor Killings under Islamic Law can also be comparatively and factually reviewed against Islamic Law. There are, in fact, rules and requirements as to how apostates should be handled within the context of Islamic Law, and these facts must be reviewed by FDLE if a professional and factual report is to be completed.

3. It was noted that the Executive Director of the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) -Columbus (Ohio) and the Staff Attorney for CAIR were present during the interview of Mr. Bary by FDLE Investigators. Absent from the FDLE report was any mention that CAIR is a known Muslim Brotherhood entity and an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation (HLF) trial - the largest terrorism financing trial in U.S. history - revealing HLF as a Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood front in the United States. All defendants in this case were found guilty in November 2008 and are serving long prison terms. These facts about CAIR were testified to at trial, and accepted as legally true. They are irrefutable - the documents demonstrating these facts were stipulated to by the defense. The Muslim Brotherhood's (MB) creed is "Allah is our goal; the Messenger is our guide: the Koran is our constitution; Jihad is our means; and martyrdom in the way of Allah is our inspiration," and their stated objective in America is a "Civilization-Jihad" to destroy the United States from within, and the MB exists to implement Islamic Law here in the United States. All of these facts are relevant for two critical reasons. First, these material facts should be made known to the State Attorney's Office and any Judges involved in this case as a matter of course. Secondly, when representatives from an organization that is objectively known to be hostile towards to the United States and unindicted co-conspirator in the largest terrorism financing trial in U.S. history, are allowed to be present during a law enforcement interview of someone, it raises questions as to why they were allowed to be present at the interview at all. These facts further demand an objective look to determine if the Muslim Brotherhood itself has a position on Islamic Law and Apostasy. One of the MB's two stated objectives is to implement Islamic Law in North America (and across the globe), and it is known they call for adherence to Islamic Law wherever Muslim communities exist. The Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law: Reliance of the Traveller is approved as valid Islamic Law by the International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT), a known Muslim Brotherhood entity, as proven in the HLF trial. In Reliance of the Traveller, Investigators will find specific legal doctrine on how apostates are to be treated under Islamic Law. Furthermore, the Muslim Brotherhood has a history of officially addressing the issue of Apostasy. In 1984, Ismail R. Al-Faruki , the Founder of IIIT, stated: "That is why Islamic Law has treated people who have converted out of Islam as political traitors...[Islam] must deal with the traitors when convicted after due process of law either with banishment, life imprisonment, or capital punishment...but once their conversion is proclaimed, they must be dealt with as traitors to the state." Apostasy is also specifically addressed in Peace and the Limits of War, published by IIIT and written by Louay Safi, the former Executive Director of IIIT, Malaysia, the Association of Muslim Social Scientists (a proven Muslim Brotherhood entity), and the Executive Director of the Islamic Society of North America's (ISNA) Leadership Development Council. ISNA was proven to be a Muslim Brotherhood entity and is also an unindicted co-conspirator in the largest terrorism financing trial in U.S. history - HLF. The book is also approved by the Secretary General of ISNA. In it, Mr. Safi notes that individual apostates cannot be killed for a "quiet desertion of personal Islamic duties," but can be put to death as "just punishment" when the apostate deserts Islam publicly (p. 31).

4. This is a statement of facts regarding this matter:

* There are requirements in Islamic Law regarding someone who deserts Islam
* The Muslim Brotherhood's objective is the implementation of Islamic Law in the United States
* Rifqa Bary has left Islam and become a Christian
* Rifqa Bary has made statements to FDLE officials and others that her parents have threatened to kill her because she has left Islam
* The Bary's appear to be adherent to Islamic Law
* The Bary's appear at an interview with two Muslim Brotherhood representatives doing business as CAIR, a group known to be hostile towards the United States which is also an unindicted co-conspirator in the largest terrorism financing trial in U.S. history
* The Muslim Brotherhood supports the killing of Muslims who publicly leave Islam

5. It is my professional opinion that sufficient Probable Cause exists to believe that Ms Bary's concerns for her personal safety are based in a realistic and factual understanding of her situation, and, therefore, a further criminal investigation is warranted.



John D. Guandolo is a 12 ½ year veteran of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

[The FDLE report is posted at the end of Mr. Guandolo's report]
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/p18176.xml

[Warrior-Mentor]

From Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Sacred islamic Law.
By Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri and Nuh Ha Mim Keller

See Book O (justice)

Read paragraphs o8.0, o8.1 for the punishment.

And Paragraph o8.4 to see that it's open season for any Muslim who does happen to kill an apostate, there's NO PUNISHMENT.

You make the call.

[Warrior-Mentor]

Paragraph c8.1 eastablished Who may be held Responsible.

There are two criteria:

1. Must be able to understand the evidence. Neither Child nor insane person are responsible. (She's NOT a child as defined in f1.2 and k13.8)

2. Must be legally eligibile for the ruling.


f1.2 goes on to explain the age of mental discrimination.

k13.8 defines puberty: "Puberty applies to a person after the first wet dream, or upon becoming fifteen (O:lunar) years old, or when a girl has her first menstrual period or pregnancy."

Clearly she meets the eligibility requirements for the above punishment to the "crime" of apostacy.


WHICH RAISES THE NEXT QUESTION:

If Rifqa Bary is killed as a result of her changing her religion,
can the Florida Department of Law Enforcement be held criminally negiligent?

If so, by whom?

[Warrior-Mentor]

God bless this young lady.

Tough to imagine the hell she must be going through right now...

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...ing-today.html

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

God bless this young lady.

Tough to imagine the hell she must be going through right now...http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...ing-today.html

3:35: "lawyer for rifqas parents says rifqa's lawyer has an "agenda" and has attacks the muslim community of Columbus and is using right wing propaganda...This is a blatant attempt to separate Rifqa from those who protect her and stand for her."

3:53 "parents lawyer objects the client being "dragged through the court" by guardian ad litem."

I may sound rediculous in saying this, but IMHO, these "parents" would probobly like to drag her though the literal mud before executing her...homestyle, right? Nice and easy clean-up, no mess for the local cops who are soon to be banned from taking action anyway...

Disgusting if this young lady is not allowed evacuation from her "parents!"

JUST MY .02...

Holly

[Warrior-Mentor]

This is crazy.

Judge Rules Christian Convert Teen Must Go Back Home

A Florida judge has ruled a teenager from Ohio must return after running away to Florida in fear that her parents would harm her for converting from Islam to Christianity.

The judge ruled Ohio has jurisdiction over the case involving the teen, Rifqa Bary.

No date has been set for when she will be returned back home.

The 17-year old girl ran away from her parents' home in July, saying she feared being killed for changing religions.
But a Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation found no credible threats to Bary.

She has been staying in foster care in Orlando since she ran away.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,565560,00.html

[SF-TX]

Her parents must still comply with a court order in Florida to provide copies of their immigration documents. Until then, Florida will not release her.

Source

[Warrior-Mentor]

Thanks for the update!

Originally Posted by SF-TX

Her parents must still comply with a court order in Florida to provide copies of their immigration documents. Until then, Florida will not release her.

Source

Well Fla did exactly what I expected those mealy mouthed DCF people to do... The girl will be returned to Ohio. Immagration status to be checked and both parents and kid must undergo a pyschiatric evaluation and treated if deemed necessary. What a gianormous load of crap! DCF is under a mandate to restore families after some crap they did yrs and yrs back. So them "reuniting" this young woman and her parents is no suprise here.

I would suspect that Fla deemed the girl an Ohio resident not a Fla resident. IN Fla, under Fla law she is or can be treated as an adult at 17. In Fla, she might have rights that she would not in Ohio. I do know at that age, in Fla as a resident, she has the right to sue for emanicipation. I guess her gaurdian ad litem was not worth a crap and did not really fight for her. Most judges in Fla, that is to say 9.5 out of 10 will believe any lie that DCF tells them. That judges order is pretty standard for DCF. It is thier way of writing off the whole thing.. Parenting classe and a psych eval is Fla DCF sop. Those people think everyone is crazy ya know...

My take, no one took the dads passport. So..............Daddy will take the kid, the minute he gets her back, to Sri Lanka where she will either die or be married off to someone who will either beat her into submission or kill her himself. How any mother can facilitate this travesty is beyond my ken. DCF (fla) has again proven how useless they truly are.

I suspect this is more about christianity and islam than parents. Some christians is out there trying to convert on facebook. IF the christians had any real care for the kid, they would have helped her stay hidden until she turned 18 and was out of her parents control. IF her gaurdian ad litem was worth a crap, that person would have fought tooth and nail for her. Neither apparently, it appears, did much to help the kid. For what it is worth, I am quite certian that DCF threatened the Lorenzes with jail. DCF, in all states, is very good at making threats that would have anyone else tossed in jail. They get away with it because they are DCF.

My heart and prayers are with that child.

For the record, before I get myself bounced here. I am and have always been on the same page with WM and the other QPs here with regards to Islam. I do have some more pragmantic views of religion in general having grown up RC in a Southern Baptist south. It gives one a very unique perspective on the whole deal.
AM

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

This is crazy.

Judge Rules Christian Convert Teen Must Go Back Home

A Florida judge has ruled a teenager from Ohio must return after running away to Florida in fear that her parents would harm her for converting from Islam to Christianity.

The judge ruled Ohio has jurisdiction over the case involving the teen, Rifqa Bary.

No date has been set for when she will be returned back home.

The 17-year old girl ran away from her parents' home in July, saying she feared being killed for changing religions.
But a Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation found no credible threats to Bary.

She has been staying in foster care in Orlando since she ran away.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,565560,00.html

WM,

Just read this update, and though I am late in my response, there is one burning question in my head...Will any local law enforcement be able to keep an eye on this home where she is to be returned to?

Cannot even imagine what this poor child must be going through, and my thoughts are with her now, in her darkest hours. She did absolutely nothing to deserve this, except be born into a family of beasts, IMO.

Disgusting. Rant over.

Holly

[Warrior-Mentor]

Appears that her parents are here illegally:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...s-illegal.html

Originally Posted by echoes

WM,

Just read this update, and though I am late in my response, there is one burning question in my head...Will any local law enforcement be able to keep an eye on this home where she is to be returned to?

Cannot even imagine what this poor child must be going through, and my thoughts are with her now, in her darkest hours. She did absolutely nothing to deserve this, except be born into a family of beasts, IMO.

Disgusting. Rant over.

Holly

Holly, since the parents ARE Ohio residents, Fla really doesn't have jurisdiction.

However, the Judge did require that the parents go to parenting classes and undergo a psychiatric exam, as well as the young lady. That will pretty much mean that the Ohio DCF will be involved. OTOH, I have not read anywhere that they are required to remain in the US. By the judge ruling that Fla has no jurisdiction it neatly gets Fl off the hook for the whole mess.

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

Appears that her parents are here illegally:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...s-illegal.html

So where is the outcry of injustice I might ask??? Not in this case, I guess.

Yep, in this case I guess the peaceful, tolerant, loving followers are all singing a happy tune...for the media, the police, and those Americans who buy their rediclous story!

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!

An innocent child has just been given a DEATH SENTENCE!!!

If her beautiful face in anguish is not enough to convince you that she feels a sincere, heartfelt threat?, then look at her eyes! They show real terror!!!

Holly

[Warrior-Mentor]

Originally Posted by armymom1228

Holly, since the parents ARE Ohio residents, Fla really doesn't have jurisdiction.

However, the Judge did require that the parents go to parenting classes and undergo a psychiatric exam, as well as the young lady. That will pretty much mean that the Ohio DCF will be involved. OTOH, I have not read anywhere that they are required to remain in the US. By the judge ruling that Fla has no jurisdiction it neatly gets Fl off the hook for the whole mess.

Convenient for Florida Politicians.

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

Convenient for Florida Politicians.

My thoughts exactly!

Convenient at the sake of a childs life...Disgusting!

Holly