NREMT-P for 18D? - Page 4

doctom54 · 03-16-2009, 20:47

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Originally Posted by TrooperT

It's not like gathering merit badges because it's all valid emergency medical education and IMO, you should get every certification that you can. Someday you guys will leave active service and everything you once were allowed to do in the military and SF will be seriously curtailed on the civilian side. Having National Registry Paramedic and other certifications makes you immediately employable.

I concur. If you can get your EMT-P or any other certifications while on active duty, do so. It is MUCH easier if you all ready have it rather than trying to convince someone of your experiences. Very very few in the civilian world have any idea how an SF Medic has trained and what he is capable of.

Tom (former 91B4S, guess that dates me

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TrooperT · 03-16-2009, 21:18

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Originally Posted by doctom54

Very very few in the civilian world have any idea how an SF Medic has trained and what he is capable of.

Tom (former 91B4S, guess that dates me

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This is also very true. When I came home, the local EMS region wouldn't even let me challenge basic EMT certification after a year and a half of training. I bagged the idea of becoming a paramedic and went to nursing school instead. I can't say it was a bad choice as I've had more career progression and opportunities as an RN.

BTW doctom, I was originally a 91B3S until the 18 series appeared in the 80's. Guess that dates me too. But then again, so does my avatar...

crashedtheqc · 05-18-2009, 21:19

I stopped by the schoolhouse today because I thought I'd seen something about us being able to challenge the NREMT-P.

I found a flyer from USSOCOM's Director of Medical Education and Training. In short, it says that your ATP cert makes you eligible to sit for the Board of Critical Care Transport Paramedics (BCCTP) Flight Paramedic Certification and the NREMT-P. Also, if you're a current ATP then you can apply to the state of Georgia for a Paramedic license.

"Details of these certifications, how the current ATP can apply for them, and how the VA will reimburse you or pay for them is soon to be distributed through your respective component Surgeons and Senior Enlisted Medical Advisors"

I hope this helps.

TrooperT · 06-03-2009, 21:20

It would be a good idea to take a review course prior to taking the FP-C exam. It is very heavy on critical care subjects. At the flight program where I work, we require all of our Paramedic Base Site Managers to obtain this certification. Every one of them describe it as the hardest exam they ever took and most need every minute of the 3 hours that you get to complete the exam.

It is also an expensive test to take so you don't want to have to repeat it.

alfromcolorado · 09-06-2009, 07:41

The paramedic certification is becoming more important for former "S" qual'ed or 18Ds. In the US it is a given; if you don't have civilian certs you don't work.

Overseas used to be an exception but almost all of the job offers I see now require EMT-B at a very minimum, EMT-P or above much more often.

My NREMT-P expired in Iraq in 2003 because the company I worked for didn't care much about it and didn't have anything in place to keep it current. (I probably could have gone back to the US and spent some time and money... But the money was just do good over there...

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Now I am negotiating for a job as an Ops Mgr and they want at least a current paramedic cert.

So get it and keep it if you can without screwing over your team to get it.

Now, to my mercenary interest in this thread. The guy I talked to at this company (former action guy too) seemed to think there was some means out there, for guys whose paramedic certs had expired, to get them back by some abbreviated means. By abbreviated, I mean not going through a full blown course to do it.

Anyone know anything about that? I am on the search path for it and rumors are cool too... I will look into them.

If people are interested I will post the results of my search here ASAP.

My guess... I would have to do a full blown course.

bosljeff · 09-06-2009, 07:56

http://bcctpc.org/

I just attended SOCMSSC and now there is a "Bridge Course" in Savannah for 3 weeks @ $1100, E. New Mexico and Tidewater Virginia for 6 weeks but at least 6 people need to sign up.

Also, yet another "confirmation" that certain states accept the ATP card to sit in on the EMT-P Test. Georgia for example: you get some form, a passport pic, criminal record report, copy of ATP card then take an exam prep course, give them $125 for the 12 skill stations and $110 for the written and you're in....

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashedtheqc

I stopped by the schoolhouse today because I thought I'd seen something about us being able to challenge the NREMT-P.

I found a flyer from USSOCOM's Director of Medical Education and Training. In short, it says that your ATP cert makes you eligible to sit for the Board of Critical Care Transport Paramedics (BCCTP) Flight Paramedic Certification and the NREMT-P. Also, if you're a current ATP then you can apply to the state of Georgia for a Paramedic license.

"Details of these certifications, how the current ATP can apply for them, and how the VA will reimburse you or pay for them is soon to be distributed through your respective component Surgeons and Senior Enlisted Medical Advisors"

I hope this helps.

10-07-2009, 07:42

Nope. rumor. New grads can now sit for 1st time NREMT-P if they show their USSOCOM ATP card. NO PLAN or way to retro anyone from before.

bosljeff · 10-07-2009, 15:41

Grads from the Delta course or grads from the entire pipeline?

Scimitar · 10-07-2009, 16:46

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Originally Posted by RockyFarr

Nope. rumor. New grads can now sit for 1st time NREMT-P if they show their USSOCOM ATP card. NO PLAN or way to retro anyone from before.

Thank you Sir for keeping us informed.

Scimitar

kawika · 10-17-2009, 16:44

I thought you can challenge the test even if you've been to refresher a few times. Georgia offers us their state paramedic now. With that according to what I have read and been told(by the 18d schoolhouse no less) you can challenge the test. This is from the NREMT website.

"If your initial Paramedic educational program was completed more than two years ago and you have maintained state licensure at the Paramedic level, you must submit documentation verifying completion of a Paramedic refresher training program within the past two years"

In any event hopefully georgia state paramedic will at least qualify you for those jobs. Otherwise it looks like ill have to convince my unit to pay for me to go to the bridge course.

NATE_ALWAY · 10-18-2009, 00:40

Just went to the refresher course in july and had some of the same questions that some of you are asking. First as for the NREMT-P they are trying to get it for students, what you can do right now is call the school house and get info about getting it thru GA. A school down there is taking our course as credit. You have to pay for the certificate and to take your national test but after that you should be able to get it. If i remeber right it cost around $500 for everything. I know that no one wants to pay for it but for now thats all they got unless something has changed sense july. Second just got done signing up with the education office here at Lewis. I did some leg work with the help of another medic at 3rd and found out that Western Carolina U. offers a degree just to 18D. You have to go see some one at your education office and get signed up for GO-ARMY-ED. Tell them that you want to enroll in WCU, its in the system. They will bring up the school and start you from there. (If you already have a bunch of collage credits you might not have to take any classes. Im still waiting to get my classes translated into thier system.) Next you should contact Mr. Gross at Cgross@CATAMOUNT.wcu.edu or 828-227-2135 to see how you can get into the school. He is the directer of military assistance and training at the school, and he will get you started. Once the school excepts you, (it wont be a issue if you are smart) you will have to take some classes from them. Its all done on-line and the army pays for it. I still need a few english and math classes to get the degree. The degree is in emergency med and it is a 4 year degree. So the first step for you would be go see the education office and tell them you want to apply for WCU and GO-ARMY-ED. After that is you have any more questions let me know. I hope this helps------------Happy Hunting Nate

LeapingGnome · 12-09-2009, 09:14

I went to refresher at the beginning of the year and heard the same information. Does anyone have an update or additional information that has been to refresher recently? Has anyone gone through the process? Thanks in advance for the G2.

kawika · 12-17-2009, 20:52

Ok heres the deal. There is basically two routes you can take. One is register to take the NREMT-P using the new JSOMTC site code. Depending on when you graduated this might not be an option. It will definately work if you just graduated/haven't been in group long enough to need a refresher. The information for this course of action can be obtained by contacting the schoolhouse. For who specifically send me a PM.

Alternatively you can go the route I went. I applied for my Georgia state paramedic liscence. I now have it. I registered for the NREMT by this option and am waiting a response.

From here both routes are the same. Once you are approved to take the test you take the written test and then the practical. Order does not matter. But taking the practical is the hard part as you have to find someone in your area offering a practical test. For information on upcoming practical tests login to the NREMT webpage using your current NREMT login.

If you need more clarification/help let me know here or better yet in a PM. I have some documents I can scan/send that will help clarify.

kawika · 01-06-2010, 23:17

The newest issue of the Journal of Special Operations Medicine has the information you guys are looking for. It's the handout the school house has been giving to people that have been asking for the past few months. Go here http://jsoupublic.socom.mil/publicat...som_2009-0.php and click on the fall 09 issue with the guys on the front doing a dentcap.

bosljeff · 02-23-2010, 05:49

---My email to ATP to confirm:

"I was reading a photocopied page I found from the Journal of Special Operations Medicine, Fall 09, and according to this one page, the implication of Georgia's EMT-P reciprocity sounds too good to be true.

"Georgia will issue a state EMT-P license based on the medic being a current ATP, and having an ATP score on file. You must have taken and passed the ATP exam to be eligible for reciprocity."

The way I read this is that all I do is prove I passed the ATP, show them my current card, and they hand over an EMT-P license....this can't be.

Please clarify.

Thank you for your time."

---ATP's response:

"That's about it. You do have a passing ATP score on file and are
current. I've attached the form in case you need it.

LTC B

Please send all replies to ATP@socom.mil for fastest service.

LTC William H. Bosworth, DVM
USSOCOM Command Veterinarian
Deputy Chief, Medical Education and Training
SOCS-SG
7701 Tampa Point Boulevard
MacDill AFB, FL 33621-5323
Comm: 813-826-6031
AKO: william.bosworth@us.army.mil
NIPR: william.bosworth@socom.mil
Advanced Tactical Practitioner Questions: ATP@socom.mil"

I'm sending in the paperwork today and it is pretty simple. Here is all you should need:

Georgia out-of-state app:
http://ems.ga.gov/programs/ems/emsdo...orm_C-08-B.pdf

National Background check:
www.sentrylink.com
Per GA EMS, you need the one with DOB and SSN...

Proof of our course (plus photocopied certificate of graduation that has the sfms course on it with 011-18d30 in parenthesis:
http://www.militaryguides.acenet.edu...d=AR-0709-0083

Reciprocity info:
http://www.emt-resources.com/emt-reciprocity.html

I'll keep ya'll posted as to how it goes.