America's Second Civil War

[bblhead672]

Originally Posted by doctom54

Today is a good day to remember that on 19 April 1775 the British "Regulars/Redcoats" marched from Boston to Lexington and Concord to seize the cannons and munitions of the local Minutemen.
It didn't go well for them that day.

The democrats/socialist would do well to read OUR history.

Was doing some reading over the weekend about the events of April 1775. The British recognized that the colonists muskets/rifles, cannons, etc were useless without powder and projectiles so were conducting raids to seize those items.

Remember this when you hear more and more of the progressive socialists speaking up about taxing/regulating/infringing ammunition sales.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by bblhead672

Remember this when you hear more and more of the progressive socialists speaking up about taxing/regulating/infringing ammunition sales.

Well said. All these things, and more, are part of a whole. Whether it's putting the fear of the IRS on a banking firm to put the screws on the payment vehicles of dealers, restricting online sales, exhorbitant "excise" taxes on ammo, restriction of parts/accessories... it all comes from mouth of the same beast. Many folks try to play "whack-a-mole" with these things and treat them as individual concerns ("yeah, well, maybe that one isn't too much of an inconvenience") when they need to all be regarded as part of the same evil plan.

At its core, remember that if you don't think like them they want you gone.

[tonyz]

Incrementalism.

Minimal goals versus maximum goals.

Van Jones - Communist - in his own words.

https://m.*******.com/watch?v=otM3pWOBWWk

Published on Sep 3, 2009
Van Jones explains how to implement Socialism into a society. He advocates a foot in the door approach as what's been happening for decades now.

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by Paslode

It's a bit left leaning IMO, but interesting none the less. His description of Patriot Prayer, Proud Boys, Cliven Bundy and LaVoy Finicum, and fear of Alex Jones is typical of many city dwellers and soy boys. The hosts referencing of Roger Stone as the 'recently indicted asshole' shows clear bias.

I have not finished listening, but thus far, the Host has offered scant mention or detail on groups like AntiFA, OWS, BLM, etc.

Originally Posted by tonyz

Interested in your thoughts on the podcast which you posted after you have a chance to listen.

Happy Easter.

I've listened to the first three episodes so far.

The podcast narrator clearly discloses his bias(left).

Language he uses to describe relative partisan political positions is also highly biased(as the example you've given and others).

My biggest concern is how the narrator promised to discuss issues with the left after clearly covering the right.....and it never comes.

In episode 3 he briefly covers the LA, Dallas, and Baton Rouge LE shootings.

More contradiction of right wing inspiration bad(episode 1), LE risk jumping to conclusions with left wing inspiration(my perception).

It could have been genuinely solid if it covered both extreme ends of the spectrum in a balanced manner.

Having said that, it's always worth understanding the perspectives and perceptions of one's mirror image.

He does reference discussions with David Kilcullen, which doesn't hurt.

But he contradicts himself with how a single A10 gun run could end domestic insurrection moving towards a city, while also saying it would only take a few hundred people in the rural community to shut off a city's water/food supply.

The latter is far more accurate than the former.

He's travelled enough and seen enough to be dangerous to himself and others.

It is an iHeartRadio podcast, 7000+ subscribers on just one podcast delivery platform.

So it's getting pretty solid reach.

Of very limited value here, beyond just monitoring the topic in the broader and far more ignorant community.

[Paslode]

I listened to the entire series, it was worthwhile. Wallace could not hide his contempt for the right, especially Rural America. At times he came across as giddy, which is may be a sign of arrogance. He reminded me a lot of a smiling commie professor I know, intelligent person, I enjoyed talking to them, but they talked enough to know they incarnation of evil and up to no good.

If things went South, I could see both ending up on a Naughty and Nice list of things to do.

[tonyz]

Of very limited value here, beyond just monitoring the topic in the broader and far more ignorant community.

Concur - regarding the episode which you posted here. I listened and came away with some quick observations.

He speaks of bringing people together from both sides - but then goes on to list some flamethrowers on the right - and completely ignores - the corresponding flamethrowers on the left. That is an interesting way to build bridges.

Although he created his content essentially in real time - he again totally ignores the elephant in the room regarding civil discontent - that no matter who is in power, the government of the United States keeps getting bigger and less accountable to those it is supposed to serve. No mention of unbridled illegal immigration, open borders and the corresponding drain on resources.

He ignores the fact that members of the Obama administration may have authorized multiple alphabet soup agencies to spy on an American presidential candidate during an election cycle without disclosing this to the candidate. No one - left or right - should be good with that. If you want to bring folks together you have to acknowledge the bad acts AND bad actors on both sides. Someone in government or formerly in government needs to own this banana republic shit.

He clearly advocates for more gun control (although he owns firearms - big deal) and appears to support AOC and he champions the siren song of man-made climate change.

Does he support the Green New Deal?

We are left to infer from his clearly stated bias.

[Box]

Make no mistakes -

Democrats and Leftists DO INDEED read history.
-Our History
-Communist History
-Socialist History
-Roman History
-Good History
-Bad History

Please - I BEG of you all - don't think for a moment that leftists don't read history.
Leftist not only read from history - they learn from history.
It is the right that refuses to learn from history.
The confusion that leftists don't read or learn from history is from a failed understanding of what goes on inside the mind of a leftist.
Venezuela is not a failure to leftists - it functions EXACTLY AS IT IS SUPPOSED TO FUNCTION - the elites are in charge - the elites in power are not starving - the elites in power still have global supporters that help them retain their hold on power.
The "people" are of little concern to globally oriented leftists.
Power is paramount.

Leftists know that fascism is a component of leftist politics - they have just learned how to paint it with the broad brush of conservatism.
Conservatives don't know how to defend against it.

Conservatives are afraid of looking silly. Its why people on the "right" side of politics don't show up at a rally wearing a vagina hat or purple hair or a ski mask - or a white hood.
...it's also why conservatives are immediately reported as the "bad guys" when the ATIFA fascists show up to protest. It's why the drug using, womanizing, wife abusing celebrity class shows up supporting things like the vagina hat wearing women's march.
Its why leftists try to elevate John Lennon and his delusional utopia he sings about in "Imagine" to some cult like icon status while he is at home with HIS "possessions" beating the shit out of his wife.

It's why leftists riot in our major cities while accusing the right of trying to start a civil war.

Yet - 65 million Americans voted for Bill Clinton's wife in the last election - just like 65 million more are going to vote for someone from the current field of democratic misfits that kiss boys, grope women, lie about their heritigate, betray their families' honor for a political sound byte, and defend their rights to NOT pay taxes while explaining why republicans are the bad guys because they want to keep their taxes...


No No No - democrats DO read history - and every election cycle they add a little more spit and polish to the line of bullshit that they sell the useful idiots that make up this country. A masterful understanding of history is why the democrats already have 195 electoral votes in the bank towards their 2020 White House bid
...With rich leftists LITERALLY offering a bounty of hundreds of millions of dollars to the politician that can unseat Trump.

[Peregrino]

Originally Posted by Box

Make no mistakes -

Democrats and Leftists DO INDEED read history.
-Our History
-Communist History
-Socialist History
-Roman History
-Good History
-Bad History

Please - I BEG of you all - don't think for a moment that leftists don't read history.
Leftist not only read from history - they learn from history.
It is the right that refuses to learn from history.
The confusion that leftists don't read or learn from history is from a failed understanding of what goes on inside the mind of a leftist.
Venezuela is not a failure to leftists - it functions EXACTLY AS IT IS SUPPOSED TO FUNCTION - the elites are in charge - the elites in power are not starving - the elites in power still have global supporters that help them retain their hold on power.
The "people" are of little concern to globally oriented leftists.
Power is paramount.

Leftists know that fascism is a component of leftist politics - they have just learned how to paint it with the broad brush of conservatism.
Conservatives don't know how to defend against it.

Conservatives are afraid of looking silly. Its why people on the "right" side of politics don't show up at a rally wearing a vagina hat or purple hair or a ski mask - or a white hood.
...it's also why conservatives are immediately reported as the "bad guys" when the ATIFA fascists show up to protest. It's why the drug using, womanizing, wife abusing celebrity class shows up supporting things like the vagina hat wearing women's march.
Its why leftists try to elevate John Lennon and his delusional utopia he sings about in "Imagine" to some cult like icon status while he is at home with HIS "possessions" beating the shit out of his wife.

It's why leftists riot in our major cities while accusing the right of trying to start a civil war.

Yet - 65 million Americans voted for Bill Clinton's wife in the last election - just like 65 million more are going to vote for someone from the current field of democratic misfits that kiss boys, grope women, lie about their heritigate, betray their families' honor for a political sound byte, and defend their rights to NOT pay taxes while explaining why republicans are the bad guys because they want to keep their taxes...


No No No - democrats DO read history - and every election cycle they add a little more spit and polish to the line of bullshit that they sell the useful idiots that make up this country. A masterful understanding of history is why the democrats already have 195 electoral votes in the bank towards their 2020 White House bid
...With rich leftists LITERALLY offering a bounty of hundreds of millions of dollars to the politician that can unseat Trump.

Brilliant summation with plenty of food for thought. BLUF - The activist left has always had a plan; the complacent right has mostly expected "status quo" to continue uninterrupted. When the "ship of state" inevitably founders on the rocks of the left's ambitions, who will have the foresight to have positioned themselves to seize the lifeboats? Because given current trends and growing inertia towards mob rule, the lifeboats may be all that's left of the American ideal. Though it begs the question - where will the next Mayflower equivalent go?

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by Peregrino

Brilliant summation with plenty of food for thought. BLUF - The activist left has always had a plan; the complacent right has mostly expected "status quo" to continue uninterrupted. When the "ship of state" inevitably founders on the rocks of the left's ambitions, who will have the foresight to have positioned themselves to seize the lifeboats? Because given current trends and growing inertia towards mob rule, the lifeboats may be all that's left of the American ideal. Though it begs the question - where will the next Mayflower equivalent go?

EXACTLY! A question that I have been pondering a lot lately. Well, you could say, "We got the enemy right where we we want 'em, surrounded from the inside" [Credit to Mad Dog Jerry Shriver]. At least that creates a target rich environment

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by Box

Make no mistakes -

Democrats and Leftists DO INDEED read history.
-Our History
-Communist History
-Socialist History
-Roman History
-Good History
-Bad History

Please - I BEG of you all - don't think for a moment that leftists don't read history.
Leftist not only read from history - they learn from history.
It is the right that refuses to learn from history.
The confusion that leftists don't read or learn from history is from a failed understanding of what goes on inside the mind of a leftist.
Venezuela is not a failure to leftists - it functions EXACTLY AS IT IS SUPPOSED TO FUNCTION - the elites are in charge - the elites in power are not starving - the elites in power still have global supporters that help them retain their hold on power.
The "people" are of little concern to globally oriented leftists.
Power is paramount.

Leftists know that fascism is a component of leftist politics - they have just learned how to paint it with the broad brush of conservatism.
Conservatives don't know how to defend against it.

Conservatives are afraid of looking silly. Its why people on the "right" side of politics don't show up at a rally wearing a vagina hat or purple hair or a ski mask - or a white hood.
...it's also why conservatives are immediately reported as the "bad guys" when the ATIFA fascists show up to protest. It's why the drug using, womanizing, wife abusing celebrity class shows up supporting things like the vagina hat wearing women's march.
Its why leftists try to elevate John Lennon and his delusional utopia he sings about in "Imagine" to some cult like icon status while he is at home with HIS "possessions" beating the shit out of his wife.

It's why leftists riot in our major cities while accusing the right of trying to start a civil war.

Yet - 65 million Americans voted for Bill Clinton's wife in the last election - just like 65 million more are going to vote for someone from the current field of democratic misfits that kiss boys, grope women, lie about their heritigate, betray their families' honor for a political sound byte, and defend their rights to NOT pay taxes while explaining why republicans are the bad guys because they want to keep their taxes...


No No No - democrats DO read history - and every election cycle they add a little more spit and polish to the line of bullshit that they sell the useful idiots that make up this country. A masterful understanding of history is why the democrats already have 195 electoral votes in the bank towards their 2020 White House bid
...With rich leftists LITERALLY offering a bounty of hundreds of millions of dollars to the politician that can unseat Trump.

Damn right they absolutely know history

Someone asked the question on another forum I frequent concerning the millennials being the worst generation yet this is my response when someone stated the baby boomers were the worst....

Every generation is the product of previous generations decay compounded there are signs of societal collapse every generation some subtle clues some more pronounced

Every generation since we came here from England has been tasked with building a nation this nation and worked hard to build it with the pinnacle being placing a man on the moon in under 200yrs of existence with slide rules, long math and basic computers.....every generation at some point found less and less was required to build and started to enjoy the fruits of its labor more and more....America has been exceptional compared to other nations in social matters in science in production etc.....and in human advancement as a whole....what do we do now? all the great achievements have been accomplished as far as man can conceive? there is science that shows the deterioration of mans biology when his purpose is not so clear anymore....we have the primal need to evolve but what does mankind do now?....(rhetorical)

The millennials are the latest greatest product from a nation of excess and privilege on the decline.....from producers to consumers....they are the recipient today of our education system here in the U.S. of the radical anti's baby boomers ideology whom have seized our education systems.....only students of history and self aware are the exceptions who seek to continue to build while standing on the shoulders of the exceptional minds of history who advanced mankind......self awareness involving history and current social engineering...recognition and desire to advance something logically.

We have become so passive the warrior gene(argumentatively the psychopathic part), the primal man the hunter, the one who instinctively takes what he and his family needs is fading....it stands out more and more in contrast to civilized modern society and era of lesser testosterone driven she-men who are more comfortable calling themselves feminist. This society today has evolved from Primal man with a club dragging his woman back to the cave by her hair to a society women have begun to commandeer....ironically this would never happen in any other phase of man-kinds existence....are mens genes evolving to fit into the more feminine society??

What does man in his primal needs have to accomplish today? hunt? not unless he chooses...build, explore, fight for territory? most of these needs have been taken care of by societies evolution! man is reduced to sustaining society.....the primal instincts are becoming dulled....not even continuation of ones bloodline (pro-creation) is of importance anymore....many women have suppressed the need to reproduce and society has reduced the need for mans primal instincts as a means of survival.....

How does this generation contribute when everything that makes a man needed is reduced to a females ability and men are not able to find their natural place?....is this what happens as societies decline? does man reach his pinnacle and then go into a figurative biological hibernation? Is this why man cannot ascend any higher except for at a snails pace? is this what happens to great civilizations?

You are damn right they know history this has played out in every great civilization throughout history.
__________________

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat

Damn right they absolutely know history

Every generation is the product of previous generations decay compounded there are signs of societal collapse every generation some subtle clues some more pronounced

__________________

From John Adams:

“The science of government it is my duty to study, more than all other sciences; the arts of legislation and administration and negotiation ought to take the place of, indeed exclude, in a manner, all other arts. I must study politics and war, that our sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. Our sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry and porcelain.”

If you take that to the obvious conclusion...the future generations lose the knowledge, skills and abilities to defend the very society that allows them to do the things that they do. Or as we are seeing today, where the very society that allows them to dissent has become the enemy.

[WarriorDiplomat]

Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

From John Adams:



If you take that to the obvious conclusion...the future generations lose the knowledge, skills and abilities to defend the very society that allows them to do the things that they do. Or as we are seeing today, where the very society that allows them to dissent has become the enemy.

Absolutely which brings us back to the question of the Democrats knowing or not knowing history....they appear to be the ones who understand that this is where we are in historical context just the same as the conservatives really understand it....the difference is conservatives fight this historical pattern by pushing against the nature of it where the Democrats are more accepting of it and follow the ebb and flow even expediting the decay

This is yet another difference between the left and the right....the right is always trying to improve and advance while the left is content with mediocrity and retreat we are Yin and Yang mindsets

[sfshooter]

Who is John Galt?

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by sfshooter

Who is John Galt?

Donald J Trump

[sfshooter]

Originally Posted by Trapper John

Donald J Trump

Hahahaha......good one Trapper! I was just making a point to those that have read Ayn Rand. She described the society we have now over 60 years ago!