02-06-2007, 13:20
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Plagiarism of the "True Believer" quote
Seems everyone wants to steal your quote Doc and call it their own......
Americans, somewhere a "True Believer" is training to kill you because, unlike Europe, you refuse to submit! He is training with minimal food and water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon. This True Believer is not concerned about "how hard it is". He will not stop in his mission; he knows either he wins or dies and both have great rewards and are acceptable to him.
http://www2.beaufortgazette.com/watc...become_islamic
"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?"
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02-06-2007, 13:21
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02-06-2007, 13:29
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This site has roughly 4600 members, I wonder if any of these folks are members here or simply lurk here. Fascinating.
It is an awesome quote, though.
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02-06-2007, 13:31
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http://www.urbin.net/EWW/sigs/mil-sigs2.html
"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home. He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?" -- Seen at Fort Irwin
http://www.iguanasoft.com/%7Ejeffersonian/blog0502.html
And in that vein, here's an anonymous bit from the net:
"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about how hard it is, he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home. He knows only The Cause."
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02-06-2007, 13:49
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We need online Copyright help - let's make NDD a rich man! C'mon Counselor, buck up and give my brother medic the Legal advice he needs to go after these plagarists!
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02-06-2007, 14:14
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Does this make NDD famous in his own time?
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02-06-2007, 14:58
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NDD was famous before he was born.
Chuck Norris asked NDD to join Special Forces because NDD was too tough for the martial arts world.
I want to be the first to nominate him for the Professional Soldiers Pulitzer Prize in the categories of non-fiction, history and poetry.
Jack Moroney, as resident poet laureate, of course has a say in this matter.
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02-06-2007, 14:59
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I ran into a soldier on lamespace that posted this quote, trying to pass it off as his own. I asked him about it; After some prodding, he knew that it was on PS.com, but he claimed he heard it at Benning.
Plagiarism sucks.
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02-06-2007, 17:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by x SF med
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We need online Copyright help - let's make NDD a rich man! C'mon Counselor, buck up and give my brother medic the Legal advice he needs to go after these plagarists!
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I cannot provide legal advice on a public forum without waiving the attorney-client privilege. NDD and TS know how to find me if they need help.
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02-06-2007, 17:52
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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
I cannot provide legal advice on a public forum without waiving the attorney-client privilege. NDD and TS know how to find me if they need help.
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<<<<<<<<inserting into the legalnamese bullshittinator 2000>>>>>>>>
results:
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Originally Posted by Rich kalifornia Lawyer-Boy
Under no circumstances will there be any representation without compensation. NDD and TS know how much I cost and therefore chose not to use me.
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08-23-2007, 11:45
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I seen this qoute while enjoying a meal on one of your SF Compond
I'm just a Grunt (Secfor) Whlie on a mission we stop outer Kandahar city FOB(Mal) .I happend to see this qoute at the eating area. Can miss it b/c its the 1st you see whlie washing your hands. Made think twice before touching that meal....
I guess this is something you guys live by huh..?
enjoyed your training pool though.. .
Thanks guys
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08-23-2007, 14:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GOLO
I'm just a Grunt (Secfor) Whlie on a mission we stop outer Kandahar city FOB(Mal) .I happend to see this qoute at the eating area. Can miss it b/c its the 1st you see whlie washing your hands. Made think twice before touching that meal....
I guess this is something you guys live by huh..?
enjoyed your training pool though.. .
Thanks guys
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NDD, you're famous! Kilroy ain't got nothing on you......
Thanks GOLO.
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08-23-2007, 15:16
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
NDD, you're famous! Kilroy ain't got nothing on you......
Thanks GOLO.
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We Brother, we.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
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08-25-2007, 09:02
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I put this quote on a background and hung it up in my bay for motivation. Over
400 soldiers have used it to get themselves through basic training. When they ask who NDD is I tell them a Special Forces Soldier. Alot of my soldiers who volunteered for the 18X program at the end of Infantry OSUT were because of the questions they asked my senior an 18E from 5th. It all started with this saying as the spark. and all the curiosity and awe. I wouldn't say plagerism though as I put quotations around the text and put Nous Defions Doc as the author.
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08-25-2007, 09:10
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Quote:
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I put this quote on a background and hung it up in my bay for motivation. Over
400 soldiers have used it to get themselves through basic training. When they ask who NDD is I tell them a Special Forces Soldier. Alot of my soldiers who volunteered for the 18X program at the end of Infantry OSUT were because of the questions they asked my senior an 18E from 5th. It all started with this saying as the spark. and all the curiosity and awe. I wouldn't say plagerism though as I put quotations around the text and put Nous Defions Doc as the author.
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I wouldn't say plagiarism either. What would be cool is a pic though. Call it royalties.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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