02-23-2014, 11:51
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Cervical Fusion Waiver?
I'm afraid I know the answer, but want to know for sure so I will ask: can a waiver be given for a fusion at the C6-C7 level? I am already serving but it looks to me like this will disqualify me from SF according to the medical regulations. The Doc who performed the surgery has fully released me to lift weights, run, and even said I could do The Bataan heavy if I want.
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02-23-2014, 18:30
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What did your recruiter and the MEPS Dooctor tell you?
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02-23-2014, 20:13
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The injury was LOD and I have not spoken to a recruiter or a MEPS Doctor. I am in the Guard, so the surgery was done by a civilian. A medic in my Unit said I may have to go before a Medical Board, but the surgery was in October and I have heard nothing else from them.
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02-23-2014, 20:20
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Recommend having your cervix removed entirely.
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02-23-2014, 22:09
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Recommend having your cervix removed entirely.
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Lmao that was my first thought.
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02-24-2014, 06:50
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AR 40-501 Ch2-29 (as referenced applicable in Chapter 5), paragraph d.
d. History of congenital fusion (756.15), involving more than two vertebral bodies does not meet the standard. Any
surgical fusion of spinal vertebrae (P81.0) does not meet the standard.
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05-20-2014, 11:20
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Originally Posted by sinjefe
Recommend having your cervix removed entirely.
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Thaaaaats hilarious. 
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02-23-2014, 20:28
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Originally Posted by Stilts
The injury was LOD and I have not spoken to a recruiter or a MEPS Doctor. I am in the Guard, so the surgery was done by a civilian. A medic in my Unit said I may have to go before a Medical Board, but the surgery was in October and I have heard nothing else from them.
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I think it isn't going to happen, and you are not even going to be able to get on Airborne status, but it doesn't matter what we think.
Best of luck.
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04-21-2014, 18:12
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What did your recruiter and the MEPS Dooctor tell you?
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I broke my neck and had a total disk replacement at the C6-7 instead of a fusion only lost 10% mobility tops but alot better than the 30+% I have lost due to pain. Got it done at Walter Reed talk to the nuerologist
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04-21-2014, 20:26
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I broke my neck and had a total disk replacement at the C6-7 instead of a fusion only lost 10% mobility tops but alot better than the 30+% I have lost due to pain. Got it done at Walter Reed talk to the nuerologist
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It isn't a matter of making him better, he is trying to get into SF.
As Eagle said, AR 40-501, Chapter 2-29 (as referenced applicable in Chapter 5), Paragraph D will not allow him to go SF without a waiver, which is almost certainly not going to be granted.
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d. History of congenital fusion (756.15), involving more than two vertebral bodies does not meet the standard. Any surgical fusion of spinal vertebrae (P81.0) does not meet the standard.
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Soldiers who are already SF are not required to meet the entry physical standards.
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04-22-2014, 03:58
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A little while back I tried to help a friend of mine (a CPT) get a waiver for a similar back issue. The guy was the #4 Cadet in the Nation in ROTC, hurt his back just before coming on active duty, served as a Combat Engineer for his first assignment, Sapper School, OEF deployment doing route clearance along HWY 1 et al, scoring in the 330's on the extended APFT Scale. Letters of recommendation from 10th Group guys he worked with at Carson, including the Group Surgeon if I recall correctly. Letter of recommendation from me...all around super guy.
NO waiver.
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04-22-2014, 15:59
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
It isn't a matter of making him better, he is trying to get into SF.
As Eagle said, AR 40-501, Chapter 2-29 (as referenced applicable in Chapter 5), Paragraph D will not allow him to go SF without a waiver, which is almost certainly not going to be granted.
Soldiers who are already SF are not required to meet the entry physical standards.
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I completely understand my situation is different already being SF completely understood if I had had a fusion I would be tracking but a TDR is not a fusion and may allow for a provision.
I am kind of curious why no TDR instead of a fusion I assume his disk was damaged and not his C's.
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04-22-2014, 16:17
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WD, if you are ever in the vicinity of Bank Hall and want to swing by the 18A building, downstairs, around back (used to be the 18F building, rigger before that), I'll tell you about two relatively recent incidents that greatly impact the ease/difficulty of securing med waivers.
Just ask for Paul.
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