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Old 12-23-2009, 23:26   #16
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That was something I noticed, but for a different reason, the victim didn't move or make noise, now I know it wouldn't have been much and he would have lost consciousness quickly once the jugular was severed but I think and maybe more so I sincerely hope the victim was unconscious.

Either way, that video and those like it show the true face of the enemy we face, and you cannot negotiate, reason or even argue with a beast that would teach, let alone allow a child to be involved in the killing or worse the beheading of a human.
Does anyone remember Nick Berg, who died on Saturday, May 01, 2004, Iraq;
cause of death: execution

The terrorists forced him down rather quickly, bouncing his skull on the floor, that alone would have put me out. His hands were not placed behind him, but in front. Nick struggled, but only for a moment. Loss of static blood pressure in under 3 seconds, he was gone. In my opinion, in recent years, the executioners have only gotten better. Not only better, but younger. In this video, the women were holding him down, (talk about irony). In Nick's execution, the killer had to hold the victim alone.

I hold all in party responsible. The parents, the bystanders, the camera guy. This is not an isolated event - human desentcy is this scenario is gone.

The victim, their own countryman. The "worm has definately turned".

I'm blessed to live the USA, were in if my neighbor thought another was doing harm, they would step in and put matters into their own hands, law suit be damned, doing the right thing is still doing the right thing.

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In the final analysis, brothers stick together. Who's with me?

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Old 12-23-2009, 23:30   #17
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The second, NO one ever taught the brat to field dress game. At that age I could have done it in half the time. He was doing good until he got to the spine... [QUOTE]

I was thinking the same thing Army Mom. If you're going to decapitate someone at least do it the right way. His knife should have been sharper and a hatchet would have helped with the spine.

I think the victim was already dead though. He didn't struggle at all. I figured he may have been strangled right before it happened. I'm sure the film crew wanted it to look good.

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Old 12-24-2009, 00:26   #18
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I was thinking the same thing Army Mom. If you're going to decapitate someone at least do it the right way. His knife should have been sharper and a hatchet would have helped with the spine. I think the victim was already dead though. He didn't struggle at all. I figured he may have been strangled right before it happened. I'm sure the film crew wanted it to look good.

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The knife was sharp, the guy was, I am pretty sure, still alive. He had 3 or 4 people holding him down, his hands looked like they were tied behind him.
Notice the dude holding his head back. Do that and the jugular slips behind the windpipe. There was a lot of blood, at one point I saw 'spurts'. The victim was alive long enough to suffer. The kid could have used the knife sharp or not to
cut between the vertebrae, he was hacking. He had no clue. Notice the kid was wearing white western style 'sneakers"?

Anyone find out why the guy got his throat slit and head removed? Perhaps he had buggered the kids pet goat? It might have deserved to die in such a fashion.
Maybe he was a 'collaborator'.

When the women are teaching thier young to kill in such a fashion..... Until the women are educated and given a change of heart and mind. It will continue.
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Old 12-24-2009, 00:42   #19
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.... Until the women are educated and given a change of heart and mind. It will continue.
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Who said, "No educated woman would raise a terrorist son" or at least coined the phrase? It's been used here (PS.com) a few times.

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Old 12-24-2009, 00:44   #20
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Does anyone remember Nick Berg, who died on Saturday, May 01, 2004, Iraq;
cause of death: execution

The terrorists forced him down rather quickly, bouncing his skull on the floor, that alone would have put me out. His hands were not placed behind him, but in front. Nick struggled, but only for a moment. Loss of static blood pressure in under 3 seconds, he was gone. In my opinion, in recent years, the executioners have only gotten better. Not only better, but younger. In this video, the women were holding him down, (talk about irony). In Nick's execution, the killer had to hold the victim alone.

I hold all in party responsible. The parents, the bystanders, the camera guy. This is not an isolated event - human desentcy is this scenario is gone.

The victim, their own countryman. The "worm has definately turned".

I'm blessed to live the USA, were in if my neighbor thought another was doing harm, they would step in and put matters into their own hands, law suit be damned, doing the right thing is still doing the right thing.

WD

p.s., this is my idea of parenting: (attached) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmVI0...eature=related

In the final analysis, brothers stick together. Who's with me?
I'm with you WD,don't know how much help an old fart can be,but I'll promise you it'll be more than 100% of what I've got left,at lest until my next posting....
Remind me if I forget...... BTW,do you share your Jameson(?) with your followers?

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This is perfect evidence why they all must be exterminated. The children are always the hope for the future-not this time.

Yes, I recognize and know what I am saying,and know some will not agree,but,I see no other way. Who is going to take a chance that they will "change". I despise them and their religion,and they all must go,because they cannot be reasoned with,trusted,nothing. No other religion preaches hate and domination like theirs.

I dont know what it's worth, but I will stand with W-D.

These people MUST be stopped. They must be stopped NOW, before this becomes commonplace here,in America. And, yes, It CAN happen, if American sheeple become complacent. No one ever thought something like 9/11 could happen...
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This is perfect evidence why they all must be exterminated. The children are always the hope for the future-not this time.

Yes, I recognize and know what I am saying,and know some will not agree,but,I see no other way. Who is going to take a chance that they will "change". I despise them and their religion,and they all must go,because they cannot be reasoned with,trusted,nothing. No other religion preaches hate and domination like theirs.

I dont know what it's worth, but I will stand with W-D.

These people MUST be stopped. They must be stopped NOW, before this becomes commonplace here,in America. And, yes, It CAN happen, if American sheeple become complacent. No one ever thought something like 9/11 could happen...
I maybe totally wrong and am not speaking for WD,but I don't believe he's talking about them all being exterminated..... Correct me if I'm wrong WD........

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Old 12-24-2009, 02:41   #23
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I believe that greatness once flourished in the Middle East, that Baghdad was once the epicenter of world knowledge, (science, math, astronomy, arts, culture, language, etc.). I beieve that if those who feel 'Islam is Great', then they need to be reminded that it only has gone down hill ever-so-slowly since the 8th century with the introduction of Islam. That perhaps, they should learn that the great teacher of faith has always said, "...by their fruits, ye shall know they are my people". One can judge for themselves the merits of any idealogy, (e.g., Definition: 1. system of social beliefs: a closely organized system of beliefs, values, and ideas forming the basis of a social, economic, or political philosophy or program. 2. meaningful belief system: a set of beliefs, values, and opinions that shapes the way a person or a group such as a social class thinks, acts, and understands the world).

If Islam is going to survive, or if we are going to survive with Islam, then Islam must correct itself, abide by curtain behaviors and accept those not of Islamic faith. Radical Islamist teach that Muhammed was sent to correct to errors of the old with the new. That Islam was to return the "beleiver to the Gospel. Non-beleivers, blah, blah, blah, etc".

If students of religions learn that it is our simularities that unite us, rather than our differences that destroy us. I quickly point out to some of my more Islamic friends, that Muhammed's actions are not often behaviors of a man of God. In comparision to Adam, Noah, Moses, Isaiah, Jerimiah and other who taught "repentance, honor your parents, remove yourself from evil, do good, love your neighbor...", Muhammed falls short.

As I see it in comparision to a parable, all I see is a poor fruit, (idealogy), planted in bad soil, (hearts of man), that will yield no product. At some point even the gardner/care giver will pluck the tree from the vinyard and cast it out. If Islams goal is to "change" everyone, then they will fail. If their goal is to destroy Israel, then we already know how that ends.

I do not believe that all must be exterminated, I do beleive that I would be held accountable to my God, if I felt so. I believe that our military leadership needs to get out of the way, and allow our troops and field commanders the flexibility to do their jobs. But be not surprised here, we were told this was going to happen. Wars and rumors of wars,...all nations will see war and it's horrors, there will be no place on Earth that will be safe.

It is a conflict between right and wrong, between the gospel and false principles. What is the Gospel? Truth is Eternal, it does nor change. The same gospel that was taught anciently, is the same taught today. It has always been, Faith, Sacrifice, Obedience, Love, Acceptance of others, selfless servive, and Honoring God by serving others. "To the least of these my brotheren, you have done it unto me".

I am of the belief that this conflict can only be solved by one solution, and He's not here yet. Until that day, I will stand watch with my fellow team mates. Until that day, my sword will not be sheathed. I am not of the belief that all must be exterminated, but I am of the belief that a great number of them must be destroyed. My faith has been tested, my knowledge is assured. I do not operate under the assumptions of dis-belief, I know my cause and it is just.

I believe that this nation is the greatest nation on Earth, that it was protected from all occupiers for most of recorded history, 10's, 100's thousands of years. That is was only discovered in accordance with God's wishes and intent, little as 500 years ago. That a rightous nation could be developed to serve His plans. That freedom was born here. Freedom was spoken elsewhere, but no one was really free, not Rome, Greece, no where. Only here, only now.

I thank God each day for my life. I thank Him for my children, for my family. I thank Him for my blessings. I am absolutely humbled that He remembers me. That he sees to my needs, I have never wanted. I enjoy doing the best I can in everything I do. It has not always been easy, but it has been worth it.

So in closing,

All - be of good cheer, know that you are loved. And may God hold you ever so tender in His loving embrace.

Good night.

WD

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I'm sure that at some point in the past, they used swords or axes. I suppose they are going for a more, "hands on" feel. Touch, hold, smell.
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I'm sure that at some point in the past, they used swords or axes. I suppose they are going for a more, "hands on" feel. Touch, hold, smell.
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I dunno...They're gonna have a hard time living up to the example of their prophet - Big "mo" personally beheaded 900 Jews in one night, tossing their headless bodies in a ditch dug around Medina, and the personal possessions of these 900 men, including da "womenz" and da "chillenz", were divided as booty among Big "mo" and his followers... pretty tall order to follow...
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Old 12-24-2009, 04:56   #26
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If Islam is going to survive, or if we are going to survive with Islam, then Islam must correct itself, abide by curtain behaviors and accept those not of Islamic faith. Radical Islamist teach that Muhammed was sent to correct to errors of the old with the new. That Islam was to return the "beleiver to the Gospel. Non-beleivers, blah, blah, blah, etc".
Good post, but Islam isn't going to - and can't - change.

Paraphrasing "He who renounces a part of islam, it is as if he has rejected all of islam."

Which leaves us with much fewer options.

Educate. With the goal to convert to anything other than islam.

Export. Give them a one way ticket back to any sharia compliant country of their choice. Have a nice life and enjoy. Careful what you wish for.

Incarcerate/Exterminate. There are those who will not have it any other way. They've volunteered for violent jihad and want to meet allah. We can help them too. If they can't be captured and tried, they must be killed. We have units that are very good at this. We're going to need more law enforcement officers and they need to be freed from the leash of political correctness.
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Good post, but Islam isn't going to - and can't - change.

Paraphrasing "He who renounces a part of islam, it is as if he has rejected all of islam."

Which leaves us with much fewer options.

Educate. With the goal to convert to anything other than islam.

Export. Give them a one way ticket back to any sharia compliant country of their choice. Have a nice life and enjoy. Careful what you wish for.

Incarcerate/Exterminate. There are those who will not have it any other way. They've volunteered for violent jihad and want to meet allah. We can help them too. If they can't be captured and tried, they must be killed. We have units that are very good at this. We're going to need more law enforcement officers and they need to be freed from the leash of political correctness.
I have friends who are originally from Jordan and Lebanon, Christians and have been since the 3rd century. Option B and C work for me, given the fact that expecting them to convert is not-likely. But then again, anything is possible with the Man up stairs.

I'm not sure who wrote the lines, Johnny Cash or Bob Dylan.

God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son",
Abraham says, "Where this killing to be done?".
God says, "Out on Highway 61".

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Old 12-25-2009, 02:09   #29
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This video has shock value and all. There is no context. I could care less about this kid or the muslim he is killing. Americans have certainly been much more ruthless than this in the past and need to be so again. And soon. There is just not enough resolve to do so yet. So much talk, but no action. Air strikes in Yemen are nice will never effect a thing. True believers are just enboldened. We are helpless here, on the internet. Seriously helpless--just typing. Just collecting shocking videos and stories and not creating ones of our own to really make these savages afraid and repulsed.
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I'm not sure who wrote the lines, Johnny Cash or Bob Dylan.

God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son",
Abraham says, "Where this killing to be done?".
God says, "Out on Highway 61".

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It was Bob Dylan the song is called highway 61, Springstein has covered it too.
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