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Old 09-10-2007, 20:28   #31
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IIRC, it was "Lessons Learned" and was put together by the folks at B53 Camp Long Thanh.

There was also a post in here a couple of years ago:

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...d%22#post93450


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The "Overspeed Issue", was a Main Rotor. We operated High and Hot in Laos!! We could only carry 4 folks per ship. Hence the question of if they could carry 6 out!! My 12 man team took a flight of at least 9 Slicks!!! Three for us and six more to haul us and the 4 man crews out if things went south!!
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Old 09-15-2007, 20:06   #32
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Cap and AM you are correct. I found it in a copy of the: POI 7658, Patrolling FTX, "Combat Recon Manual, Republic of Vietnam". Prepared by Project (B-52) Delta, HQ. Nha Trang.

Under [B]"M-16/CAR-15 Tips", #9 states: "During extraction do not fire weapons from helicopters after leaving the LZ because a gunship may be passing under you without your knowledge."

I would also think that this would also mean grenades and "any" aircraft passing below you. Just MHO.
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Old 02-07-2008, 16:22   #33
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Old 02-07-2008, 16:49   #34
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And you are?

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Old 02-07-2008, 17:15   #35
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Possibly a Team Member of RT Hawaii, MAC-V-SOG CCC!!! From above:

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This is a recording of two Recon Teams (RT's) who are in dire straits. Both RT's are loosing a battle wherby death is immenient. Those RT's are: RT Colorado with Pat Mitchel being the 1-0, Lyn St. Laurent as the 1-1, and David "Lurch" Mixter as the 1-3. RT Colorado is an eight man team including the five Indigenous troops. The other was RT Hawaii with Les Dover as the 1-0, Regis Gmitter the 1-1, and John Justice the 1-2


Reg,...............is that really you?!?!?!

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Old 06-15-2008, 21:29   #36
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Wow, thats some crazy s**t. One of the more intense recordings Ive heard. Hats off to all the Soggies out there.

With the proper equipment would it be possible to isolate some of the different "conversations" and then listen to them seperately ?

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Old 06-16-2008, 04:43   #37
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I found it in a copy of the: POI 7658, Patrolling FTX, "Combat Recon Manual, Republic of Vietnam". Prepared by Project (B-52) Delta, HQ. Nha Trang.
Just came across this thread. The original document for this was titled "Reconnaissance Tips of the Trade" and was prepared by two of B52s most experienced NCOs, Joe Alderman and Norm Doney (who was the Recon Co 1SG at CCC when the Tips were written). This POI has expanded the original Tips and also has some of the elements found in the MACVSOG RT Leaders Handbook circa '69 plus a few other pics to 'sex' it up a bit I guess.

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Old 06-17-2008, 23:01   #38
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Thanks for the link MAB32.
I just stumbled on this thread and will order the book ASAP.
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Old 06-18-2008, 19:24   #39
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Wow this is some good stuff, I just got done reading Secret Commandos and this is just intense to listen to. I dont even know what to say but thanks!

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Old 05-27-2009, 20:45   #40
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For last Memorial Day...

Thought that I would re-post this thread for all the new people to hear. Should have posted this for Memorial Day.
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Old 09-26-2009, 01:05   #41
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Heard it for the first time.

Just heard this for the first time - takes your breath away - figured this thread needs another kickstart.

I had a few beers with Martin (Ambush Master) two days ago and listened for nearly two hours as he talked about much of his time on RT New York.

He mentioned Plaster's book, also which I have not read - but will as soon as I can get a copy. And that conversation eventually took me to this Thread.

Wow - has anyone ever attemtped a "written transcript" of this?

One interesting thing. I went though Phase 1 with Gmitter - haven't heard from him, or even thought about him since 1969. It appeared that he jumped in on this thread for one posting - but if so, he he didn't make a second. Anybody know his where bouts these days?
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Old 09-26-2009, 09:30   #42
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That was some interesting drama to listen to. When I was in 5th back in the mid '80s there were a few SOG veterans in our Battalion including LTC Tangney. I was fortunate enough to hear some of their stories first hand and they were pretty incredible. Those guys definately earned and secured their place in history.

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Old 09-26-2009, 14:10   #43
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That was some interesting drama to listen to. When I was in 5th back in the mid 80s there were a few SOG veterans in our Battalion including LTC William Patrick T. I was fortunate enough to hear some of their stories first hand and they were incredible. Those guys definately earned and secured their place in history.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:52   #44
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I literally got goose bumps listening to that.

Did I understand the comment at the end about turning the tape over to the next side? Is there more?
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Old 09-29-2009, 20:43   #45
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SdAufKla,

That is not part of the original. Was added on by a person that was never in SOG before and wouldn't know for sure.
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