05-24-2006, 19:31
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Originally Posted by gtcrispy
You are going to want to hit both the warhead and the rocket motor with seperate charges so that both are destroyed and you aren't left with one piece of UXO now in 2 parts.
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Good gtcrispy - You'll need at least 2 Pkgs of C4.
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One other thought. Is there is a risk of the rocket propellent igniting sending the UXO in whatever direction?
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Yes I can happen, just as in horseshoes and hand Gernades. 2.75 style RKT that happens more than this Chinesse style of RKT. Meaning that the 2.75 RKT have the Warhead and the Motor are two seperate parts. Typically you have to screw the motor and warheads together or they come this way. These 107 to 120mm RKTs they are made all "together" in one "tube".
Thats why you have your Safe EVAC distance or FRAG Distance to CAL out by your Type by Fillers of the UXO.
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05-25-2006, 08:11
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Good Job Pinhead - Man the Civilian getting this again.
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Thank you, but it looks like I was pretty far off.
I identified an American 90mm artillery shell, when it was actually a Chinese 107mm rocket. About all I got was that it's bigger than small-arms, spin-stabilzed, and HE.
I don't mind kudos, but I prefer to earn them.
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05-25-2006, 20:58
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Thank you, but it looks like I was pretty far off.
I identified an American 90mm artillery shell, when it was actually a Chinese 107mm rocket. About all I got was that it's bigger than small-arms, spin-stabilzed, and HE.
I don't mind kudos, but I prefer to earn them. 
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You get the KUDOS (man those can be some good candy bars too) becuase you tried, and thats what we want - An SF-Wannabe that will try!! Hell I can't get any of the 18Cs to drop a dine to try to get these.
Plus Pinhead you did nail everything if it was a 90mm ARTY Rd. Look at it this way, your not "Trained" and you did get the Safety Hazards for both of the UXOs. More than needed, but you covered them all. Is this wrong, yes but what it does is SOMEtimes make you WORK more in the long run. But you got it (90mm) right.
Maybe we need to start a CAL PLACE or TO Thread in the 18C Section.
But you Tried PinHead!
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05-28-2006, 03:50
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Originally Posted by gtcrispy
You are going to want to hit both the warhead and the rocket motor with seperate charges so that both are destroyed and you aren't left with one piece of UXO now in 2 parts. One other thought. Is there is a risk of the rocket propellent igniting sending the UXO in whatever direction?
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Another way not to do it, is to shoot the motor, with a Barret, we might have learned this one the hard way. (That sucker hit the ravine wall and shot straight up. I have no idea where it ended up)
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05-28-2006, 08:54
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...then what is this?
It should be an easy one.
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05-28-2006, 09:09
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Nozzle, 1ea, 122mm Rocket!!
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05-28-2006, 18:11
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Another way not to do it, is to shoot the motor, with a Barret, we might have learned this one the hard way. (That sucker hit the ravine wall and shot straight up. I have no idea where it ended up) 
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LOL Loved to have saw that Video MAX_TAB
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06-17-2006, 07:26
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Since no one answered, it is a picture of the ass end of a 107 mm rocket.
The rocket landed right outside the wire, and that was all that was left of it.
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06-17-2006, 21:56
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Wow, excellent thread. Anyone want to kick one off for the 18 bravos?
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06-26-2006, 20:12
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UXO five
Okay Charlie' here is number five.
Name the below on these UXOs.
1) Type by function of UXOs.
2) Safety Hazards for them.
3) BIP method?
4) How do you Charlie's move these UXO for Disposal?
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06-28-2006, 08:11
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Okay Charlie' here is number five.
Name the below on these UXOs.
1) Type by function of UXOs.
2) Safety Hazards for them.
3) BIP method?
4) How do you Charlie's move these UXO for Disposal?
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Not sure of 1-3, but number 4 I would say they probable had them loaded up in a Jenga truck and then just dumped them in a hole.
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06-28-2006, 08:25
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As an 18B/18D-
1. too many bombs to count, probably unstable, although most look unfused - rely on Charlie's great knowledge
2. they go BOOM, and throw little pieces of shrapnel at high velocity, long distances - Charlie knows more than I do - defer to him
3. Stay away unless the Charlie asks for assistance
3. Make sure M-5 Bag is handy
3. Tie Uili knots, measure Det cord, measure time fuse, open and cut C4 if asked
3. keep eyes and ears open for BGs, rifle at ready
4. Make sure there is Medevac standing by, in case Charlie makes a mistake
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06-28-2006, 08:27
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Not sure of 1-3, but number 4 I would say they probable had them loaded up in a Jenga truck and then just dumped them in a hole.
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I'll wait out on answering that one.
18Cs is MAX_TAB Right? Can you 18 Series move those UXOs?
Yes? No? Why or Why Not?
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06-29-2006, 11:37
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Okay Charlie' here is number five.
Name the below on these UXOs.
1) Type by function of UXOs.
2) Safety Hazards for them.
3) BIP method?
4) How do you Charlie's move these UXO for Disposal?
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Wow, that's a lot. As the man said, there are too many for counting to be worthwhile (in most circumstances).
1. A whole mess of spin-stablized rockets. I'm going to assume that most or all of them are high explosive. (Hard to say if it's lighting, fading paint, or if there are yellow casings in that pile of ODs.)
2. HE / FRAG for sure. I'd assume STATIC / EM / MOVE are hazards also. Most appear to be unfuzed, not that it makes the HE payload less dangerour. That much clustered together, get people way the hell away.
3. I'll leave it to the experts, until I get trained to be one.
4. Bulldozer? Dump truck? I'm curious to hear the story here.
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06-29-2006, 16:37
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As an 18B/18D-
1. too many bombs to count, probably unstable, although most look unfused - rely on Charlie's great knowledge
2. they go BOOM, and throw little pieces of shrapnel at high velocity, long distances - Charlie knows more than I do - defer to him
3. Stay away unless the Charlie asks for assistance
3. Make sure M-5 Bag is handy
3. Tie Uili knots, measure Det cord, measure time fuse, open and cut C4 if asked
3. keep eyes and ears open for BGs, rifle at ready
4. Make sure there is Medevac standing by, in case Charlie makes a mistake
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Now that is Funny LOL
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