Special Forces Berlin: Clandestine Cold War Operations of the US Army's Elite, 1956–1

[Flagg]

A new(and long awaited) book:

"Special Forces Berlin: Clandestine Cold War Operations of the US Army's Elite, 1956–1990" by James Stejskal


https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B06WLLJPGB/

I haven't read it yet as I only just received the alert and downloaded it immediately.

Considering how little the world knows about DET-A and the resurgence of Cold War 2.0 in Eastern Europe that renews their relevancy, I'm just grateful to get a better open source understanding of their history.

[Flagg]

Review of the book by SF COL David Maxwell(retired):

http://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art...n-the-cold-war

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Flagg

Considering how little the world knows about DET-A and the resurgence of Cold War 2.0 in Eastern Europe that renews their relevancy, I'm just grateful to get a better open source understanding of their history.

Thank you VERY much for the link; a must-add for the bookshelf. And about bloody time. These gents were right across from me at Andrews.

Damned hippies.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Flagg

A new(and long awaited) book:

"Special Forces Berlin: Clandestine Cold War Operations of the US Army's Elite, 1956–1990" by James Stejskal


https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B06WLLJPGB/

I haven't read it yet as I only just received the alert and downloaded it immediately.

Considering how little the world knows about DET-A and the resurgence of Cold War 2.0 in Eastern Europe that renews their relevancy, I'm just grateful to get a better open source understanding of their history.

The stories we could tell.... and we would , but then we'd have to kill you.

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by Badger52

Thank you VERY much for the link; a must-add for the bookshelf. And about bloody time. These gents were right across from me at Andrews.

Damned hippies.

No worries!

And I completely agree.

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

The stories we could tell.... and we would , but then we'd have to kill you.

Haha. Totally understandable given the content, context, and current circumstances.

I'm just genuinely grateful it was able to be published at all.

The comments at the bottom of David Maxwell's review by SMJ users Bill C, Outlaw09(DET A Vet I've shared a few emails with), and David Maxwell himself are also enlightening.

I'm left with the impression when looking at everything in aggregate that not only is a DET A like capability incredibly relevant, but so is a "counter DET A" capability. Hopefully "DET A DNA" is still being shared and replicated where needed.

Staying away completely from the OPSEC stuff, what I'm most intrigued about is what the small team dynamics and culture was like.

Especially with a training tempo that must have been relentless due to the need to master so many disparate(and new/evolving) skill sets that all had their own particular skill fade/currency issues. The adaptability is quite impressive.

From reading anecdotals here and elsewhere I'm left with the distinct impression that SF service in Germany during the Cold War was an experience that reads to an outsider as being overwhelmingly positive compared to many other Cold War, peacetime, and wartime theatres.

To avoid being killed I'll preface by saying this is not a probe, but that I strongly suspect there is far more to the DET A story than what is covered in this book.

I can only hope that I will live long enough(unlikely) and/or the geopolitical competition will shift enough(unlikely) to learn if any of my hunches are true.

But a good author always leaves a reader a bit wanting.

[Badger52]

Really looking forward to the book. I remember they stood out like a strobe ON the kaserne but, once off, with current local threads & longish hair, that allowed them to disappear like a chameleon. Very seldom seen at the usual nearby watering holes. Hell, they probably had a lock on the hot women too...

[frostfire]

Originally Posted by Flagg

A new(and long awaited) book:

"Special Forces Berlin: Clandestine Cold War Operations of the US Army's Elite, 1956–1990" by James Stejskal


https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B06WLLJPGB/

I haven't read it yet as I only just received the alert and downloaded it immediately.

Considering how little the world knows about DET-A and the resurgence of Cold War 2.0 in Eastern Europe that renews their relevancy, I'm just grateful to get a better open source understanding of their history.

Pat was there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWv7NndBf68

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by frostfire

Pat was there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWv7NndBf68

I met Pat Mac about a year and a half ago. Great guy.

That was one of the many reasons why I wanted to catch up with him.

He has a really diverse background and interests. He was able to offer some solid advice for a programme I've been working on.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by frostfire

Pat was there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWv7NndBf68

I believe McNamara was in PSSE-B, a similar but different unit than Det-A.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by frostfire

Pat was there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWv7NndBf68

Thanks for that link. Noted the MLM plated vehicle; long past my time, they started using a vehicles appropriate to the task (vs. Interceptor-package American iron which didn't do forests very well). But remained a wonderful way to get a look at the other guy's "real estate."

C'monnnn Amazon.

[JJungle]

Greetings All,

I am the author of Special Forces Berlin.... (the book referenced above)

First, I hope you enjoy the history and story.

Second, as far as calling it open source - it is now but only after a 14-month review by DoD.

It is based on the oral and written histories of around 60 troopers who served there between 1956 and 1990, the documents found at NARA, CMH, USAREUR, and USASOC, as well my service there (twice).

And to clarify one misconception: Detachment "A" (39th SFD) preceded PSSE-B (410th) - they actually overlapped about ten months - but they are both Special Forces Berlin. Det "A" passed its missions on to PSSE-B and the (classified) lineage continued. It's outlined in the book pretty comprehensively.

Once again, enjoy. Let me know if you have any questions!

VR

[Pete]

I'll have to ask my neighbor Ivan if he's heard about the book.

He was born in one of those little countries that were absorbed by the USSR. Speaks English as a 4th language and spent a number of years in Berlin with SF.

[JJungle]

Ivan W? 1960-1963 circa?

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Pete

I'll have to ask my neighbor Ivan if he's heard about the book.

He was born in one of those little countries that were absorbed by the USSR. Speaks English as a 4th language and spent a number of years in Berlin with SF.

Not "Him"...??? (Is his first name "CSM" ?)