Protecting the Second Amendment – Why all Americans Should Be Concerned

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by bubba

The LAST thing the oppressors want is people like us training like-minded civilians how to conduct L-shaped Ambushes with enfilading fires or FPL’s on their defensive perimeters utilizing Belt-Fed, Air-Cooled, General-Purpose Machine-Guns. That, and that alone, is what the oppressors are trying to stop.

You are correct in that. They're largely physical cowards and this thought makes them quake.

[Box]

I would respectfully recommend that people reconsider their opinions that oppressors are weak and cowardly.

Oppressors have successfully stormed, captured, and HELD a large portion of a west coast American city. The media championed their cause, and politicians literally kneeled in support of their movement.

These weak cowards have a record of burning an entire complex belonging to a religious cult to the ground, killing women and children simply because they didn't want to arrest the cult leader while he was on one of his routine unarmed unguarded walks through the local town.

These weak cowards have made such a habit of storming the wrong house and killing an occupant, needlessly killing dogs, or simply demonstrating a willingness to violently abuse their power to a degree that the internet is flooded with HILARIOUS memes that show these "weak cowards" storming the wrong houses, shooting the wrong people, shooting pets, and violently abusing their power...
...without consequence

These weak coward people keep referring to had no problem letting a highly trained sniper from the most elite law enforcement unit in the country go unpunished after shooting and killing an unarmed woman that was holding her 10-month-old infant.

These weak cowards have no problem lathering up a crowd and telling them "If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere"
...without consequence

These weak and cowardly people had no problem standing up to a young man armed with an AR-15 even though all they had were frozen water bottles, soup cans, and a mother fucking skateboard.

Don't be fooled; the people you speak of are neither weak nor cowardly. They are bold and unafraid. They are ambitious and motivated.
...and they hate your fucking guts.

[MR2]

Box is 100% correct.

Underestimate the enemy at your peril.

[GratefulCitizen]

Not sure that those who would oppress are particularly competent or brave.
But, they are dangerous.

Those at the top of that hierarchy do know how to whip their subordinate members into a frenzy (as happens with all groups driven by emotion…).
Those at the top also seem to view their subordinate members as interchangeable pawns without free will (as happens with many persons who reach such positions of power).

The big problem for those power-hungry psychopaths is all these pesky individuals who seem to think they should be able to exercise free will, choose their own priorities, and not give arbitrary submission to their betters.
Unfortunately, such power-hungry psychopaths can be found on either side of the current binary political choice.

Promoting gun control has been, on average, a political loser for decades.
So why do they keep doing it?

They are true believers in their own divine right to rule.
They mean to rule, not serve, the public.

Gun control, along with many other political positions, isn’t necessarily a political battle plan.
It’s just a natural manifestation of their psychological makeup.


“Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority.
It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions.

There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern.
They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.”

-Daniel Webster

[GratefulCitizen]

Federal public defenders file amicus brief in case dealing with whether felons should lose 2nd Amendment rights.

https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fir...pdf?1673643339

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Box

I would respectfully recommend that people reconsider their opinions that oppressors are weak and cowardly.

Respectfully, I read what you wrote and appreciate it. I was differentiating between the cowards and the minions they send to do their bidding. The fear in the one drives their actions.

[bubba]

And then there’s this:

https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/01...6-machine-gun/

Does anyone know a good lawyer to put this kid in contact with?

[bblhead672]

Originally Posted by Badger52

So they're contemplating a 120-day window during which you can do the form less the $200 and you're good. I'm waiting for someone who went ahead and SBR'd their gun to file & ask for their money back. Also, this now screws some folks whose state allows a pistol but doesn't allow SBR's. Their own reasoning is a kluge and sounds like something Joy Reid would think up. Once the date comes, I expect it will be headed through the courts. They don't have a record of doing well when using their own reasoning as their entire case.

Something else about the $200 "tax stamp" that the ATF says you don't have to pay during the 120 day registration period...the ATF lacks the Constitutional authority to waive any taxes, since that lies solely with the Legislature. So what the ATF has said is that the $200 isn't being waived, they just aren't requiring you to pay it.
So, at some point, the ATF will probably say everyone who owes it will have to pay it or lose their tax stamp.

[bblhead672]

Originally Posted by Box

I would respectfully recommend that people reconsider their opinions that oppressors are weak and cowardly.

Oppressors have successfully stormed, captured, and HELD a large portion of a west coast American city. The media championed their cause, and politicians literally kneeled in support of their movement.

These weak cowards have a record of burning an entire complex belonging to a religious cult to the ground, killing women and children simply because they didn't want to arrest the cult leader while he was on one of his routine unarmed unguarded walks through the local town.

These weak cowards have made such a habit of storming the wrong house and killing an occupant, needlessly killing dogs, or simply demonstrating a willingness to violently abuse their power to a degree that the internet is flooded with HILARIOUS memes that show these "weak cowards" storming the wrong houses, shooting the wrong people, shooting pets, and violently abusing their power...
...without consequence

These weak coward people keep referring to had no problem letting a highly trained sniper from the most elite law enforcement unit in the country go unpunished after shooting and killing an unarmed woman that was holding her 10-month-old infant.

These weak cowards have no problem lathering up a crowd and telling them "If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere"
...without consequence

These weak and cowardly people had no problem standing up to a young man armed with an AR-15 even though all they had were frozen water bottles, soup cans, and a mother fucking skateboard.

Don't be fooled; the people you speak of are neither weak nor cowardly. They are bold and unafraid. They are ambitious and motivated.
...and they hate your fucking guts.

100% correct...and they wish death anyone who doesn't kneel before them in submission.

[sg1987]

Nah…just re-education camps.

[GratefulCitizen]

As of today, this thread has been going for ten years.
It’s been a great place to consolidate, reference, address, and disseminate information concerning the 2nd Amendment.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen

As of today, this thread has been going for ten years.
It’s been a great place to consolidate, reference, address, and disseminate information concerning the 2nd Amendment.

How about that? I remember the initial effort and those contributing to what I still refer to as "The Letter."

We've seen some progress via court cases or state actions in that 10 years, while those predisposed to do evil prove that they'll do it anyway. The good stuff, mostly fingers in the dike, doesn't happen as fast as the dripdripdrip of the POTUS' SPECAT revelations, but still should be appreciated when it occurs.

[Badger52]

Link at Breitbart here.

Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-GA) announced Monday he will use the Congressional Review Act against the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives’ (ATF’s) pistol/stabilizer brace rule.

Breitbart News reported that the ATF’s pistol/stabilizer brace rule was finalized January 13, 2023, and that the agency is giving owners of pistols with said braces 120 days to register the firearms, once the rule appears in the Federal Registry.

On January 14, 2023, Breitbart News noted that the Congressional Review Act offered an avenue by which Congress could block the ATF’s rule.

Rep. Clyde and his colleagues are ready to use the Congressional Review Act and other means to stop the rule from turning millions of law-abiding gun owners into criminals.

Clyde spoke on the House floor Monday, saying:

Next week, I will reintroduce the Stop Harassing Owners of Rifles Today Act, or the SHORT Act, to repeal elements of the National Firearms Act, thereby prohibiting the ATF from registering and banning pistols with stabilizing braces. Additionally, as soon as the ATF’s unlawful rule is published to the Federal Register, I will introduce a resolution of disapproval under the Congressional Review Act, to override the Biden administration’s unlawful overreach.

Gun owners, hear me loud and clear:

We’re fighting for you and your Second Amendment freedoms—and we will never give up. pic.twitter.com/0LfUslyEwM

— Rep. Andrew Clyde (@Rep_Clyde) January 30, 2023

The Brookings Institute summarizes the Congressional Review Act:

Passed as part of the Contract with America Advancement Act of 1996, the Congressional Review Act creates a streamlined procedure by which Congress can disapprove and thereby nullify regulations promulgated by various federal government agencies. The Congressional Review Act quires that all rules be reported to Congress. Upon receiving that report, Congress then has 60 legislative working days (which is generally a much longer period than 60 calendar days) to introduce a special joint resolution of disapproval of the rule.

That resolution can be discharged from committee and can avoid the Senate’s filibuster, thereby empowering Congress to contend with the administrative state’s vast rulemaking powers on something closer to an equal footing.

The U.S. Government Accountability Office explains the Congressional Review Act thusly: “The Congressional Review Act allows Congress to review ‘major’ rules issued by federal agencies before the rules take effect. Congress may also disapprove new rules, resulting in the rules having no force or effect.”

It would be nice if this F-Troop overreach were mitigated to save $$$ going to lawyers to take this stupidity to SCOTUS. They have plenty of other things to do.

[bblhead672]

Originally Posted by Badger52

Link at Breitbart here.



It would be nice if this F-Troop overreach were mitigated to save $$$ going to lawyers to take this stupidity to SCOTUS. They have plenty of other things to do.

Rep. Clyde has work to do this morning. The publication of the final document in the federal registry is a done deal: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2023/01/31/2023-01001/Factoring Criteria for Firearms With Attached “Stabilizing Braces”

[Box]

'Abandon all hope ye who enter here' - there are more than enough virtuous republicans floating around that voted to ban guns back in the 90's to make sure that no RELEVANT gun control measures get turned back by the 118th congress. How much did they fix when the oval office, senate, and house were all controlled by republicans?
What landmark legislation did we see that benefited law abiding gun owners?
...just asking for a friend

- one thing is for sure, most of the republicans that have proven over and over again that they dont care about their voters are in a position to bully others into playing along as needed - just look at the omnibus corruption bill they just passed...

"for the children''

everything is for the children - its always for the children