05-07-2011, 10:36
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Muzzle brakes do work. I have a Lapua .338 which is easier to shoot than my son's .300 Winmag. It is really more of a shove than a slam.
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05-07-2011, 10:43
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Rifles were designed to keep you out of trouble until you can fight your way to a HK45.
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05-07-2011, 12:17
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HK .45
I agree, I have a HK .45 usp compact and it gets the job done, I have not shot anyone recently, but Iam 110% sure that this weapon is a life saver.All other thing's considered eg. Ammunition selection, Remington Golden Saber 230 grain JHP or Winchester 230 grain Bonded PDX1 JHP. 2.Trigger Control & Shot Placement. Also practice dry firing 5 minutes every day than go to the range once per week and fire @ 50 rounds....Train as you will fight and you will fight as you train. Set a standard and train to beat the standard.
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05-07-2011, 12:52
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Originally Posted by tom kelly
I agree, I have a HK .45 usp compact and it gets the job done, I have not shot anyone recently, but Iam 110% sure that this weapon is a life saver.All other thing's considered eg. Ammunition selection, Remington Golden Saber 230 grain JHP or Winchester 230 grain Bonded PDX1 JHP. 2.Trigger Control & Shot Placement. Also practice dry firing 5 minutes every day than go to the range once per week and fire @ 50 rounds....Train as you will fight and you will fight as you train. Set a standard and train to beat the standard.
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...and hunt with your pistol.
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05-07-2011, 13:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mark46th
Muzzle brakes do work. I have a Lapua .338 which is easier to shoot than my son's .300 Winmag. It is really more of a shove than a slam.
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If you don't mind the appearance, The JP Enterprises Recoil "eliminator" does just that.. My 8mm Mauser has as much recoil as a .22.
Note: The smith was a little over cautious and over bored the eliminator for a .338 instead of .323 and the result is I have about 10% recoil. I'm able to watch my rounds strike down range without losing sightpicture.
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05-15-2011, 17:20
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scout rifles
I spent some time experimenting with the concept for about 5 years. Small ring Mausers, large ring Mausers, Steyr's and then got tired of looking for perfection.
I have to say the large ring mauser was the best after soldering a new bolt handle on it to clear the stock and the rear bridge. Sold it to a reserve Unit member and he is still shooting it. Hard to pass up a good Mauser.
My Steyr would start to wonder on the range after 20 or so rounds. I took it down to FL to shoot one winter during training course where I would have plenty of room. That stock does kick butt though and makes it enjoyable to shoot. But the barrel is thin and starts to heat up pretty quickly.
Optically one drawback was in diminishing light I would lose the sight reticle with the Leupold Scout scopes. That long eye-relief takes a little to get used too. Just for an experiment I put an EOTech on it and it worked pretty well. No magnification of course but was light and handy. Maybe one of those magnifiers would of worked wonders? Haven't invested in one to date.
Have you looked at the Savage Scout rifle? Doesn't have the Ruger magazine capacity but neither does Steyrs.
I like the .308 over the .223 and decided to stick with an AR.
26 years of muscle memory kind of over rode any tinkering with a bolt gun.
Now it's on to doubles. Ask my man Saxon88!
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08-03-2011, 21:23
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Originally Posted by Angry Mike
Have you looked at the Savage Scout rifle? Doesn't have the Ruger magazine capacity but neither does Steyrs.
I like the .308 over the .223 and decided to stick with an AR.
26 years of muscle memory kind of over rode any tinkering with a bolt gun.
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I've decided to go a different route for now and I ordered a Marlin 1895SBL Guide Gun in 45-70.
I've applied to some jobs out of California and if I get one then I'll get an AR in .308. I have an AR in .223 and the bullet button is annoying.
Thanks, everyone for the input. It helped quite a bit.
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08-04-2011, 10:51
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Originally Posted by jw74
I've decided to go a different route for now and I ordered a Marlin 1895SBL Guide Gun in 45-70.
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The Marlin Guide Gun is a great choice. I have one of the earlier blued & ported models. It's my truck-gun when I'm in the mountains of New Mexico. The .45-70 will drop anything in North America. All my favorite calibers start with a 4.
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08-04-2011, 17:20
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Originally Posted by Shark Bait
The Marlin Guide Gun is a great choice. I have one of the earlier blued & ported models. It's my truck-gun when I'm in the mountains of New Mexico. The .45-70 will drop anything in North America. All my favorite calibers start with a 4.
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I agree.
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08-04-2011, 21:33
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Originally Posted by Shark Bait
The Marlin Guide Gun is a great choice. I have one of the earlier blued & ported models. It's my truck-gun when I'm in the mountains of New Mexico. The .45-70 will drop anything in North America. All my favorite calibers start with a 4.
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Dido...
Though no porting, .30-30 using LEVERevolution (4inch holdover at 350yrds)
Always works
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08-04-2011, 21:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jw74
I've decided to go a different route for now and I ordered a Marlin 1895SBL Guide Gun in 45-70.
I've applied to some jobs out of California and if I get one then I'll get an AR in .308. I have an AR in .223 and the bullet button is annoying.
Thanks, everyone for the input. It helped quite a bit.
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Got two. 45-70 and 30-30....Leupold scopes....Love both.
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08-05-2011, 08:31
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Model 7
A Remington model 7 in 308 in a synthetic stock makes a fine short rifle.
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12-09-2018, 11:55
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Ruger Gunsite Scout
I have a Ruger Gunsite Scout, M77. Jeff Cooper suggested the perfect Scout Rifle should be bolt action, magazine fed, chambered in .308, no more than 1 meter in length, with a forward mounted rail for maximum eye relief when using optics. I have installed a Burris Scout optic, 3 x 9, with Leupold scope rings.
I like it and paid $779 for mine. I am using PMC Bronze, 147 grain, FMJ
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12-12-2018, 09:04
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Why the emphasis on bolt action instead of semi-auto?
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12-12-2018, 09:29
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Why the emphasis on bolt action instead of semi-auto?
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Compactness, accuracy and reliability. I did some research online. Lots of info out there. He did suggest that if a semiautomatic action was "sufficiently compact and otherwise acceptable, it should be considered".
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