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Old 09-23-2021, 06:46   #151
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The question of who is running the show at the WH has been solved. The argument that Tucker Carlson presented, of who clearly points to BHO, who brazenly stated that his goal was to "Fundamentally change America". He did not include in any statement thereafter, that the change would be achieved racially.

All of Bidens blunders are the puppet master Obama vicariously acting out his third term.


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Old 09-23-2021, 09:42   #152
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Great reset = transformation

A few of the most salient points below are from a good but somewhat meandering article.

Link to full article provided nonetheless for your convenience.

Destabilization...otherwise climate change, open borders, energy policy, “free” tuition, no voter IDs, gun control, CRT in our schools, and a pandemic, etc., etc., are all examples of tools used by the “elite” opportunists to grab more power (money) from the middle class and redistribute to brainwashed folks who have no love for The Constitution or this nation.

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“The global elites’ response to the pandemic and climate change is the same: the Great Reset (GR). Those pushing the GR are attempting to impose socialism worldwide, especially on energy production and use.”

“The GR has been a long time coming. It is the latest manifestation of the Progressive era faith in scientific managers and unaccountable bureaucrats not beholden to democratic election cycles or bound by allegedly outdated laws and the expressed wishes of We the people. It assumes these experts could, if only given free rein, manage the world’s resources more effectively to meet the true needs of the people, so defined by the elites, better than the commoners can do when operating freely in markets and through elections.”

“The Great Reset is an awful idea if for no other reason than that benign, selfless philosopher-kings are and have always been few and far between, if they have ever existed at all outside of fairy tales and philosophical tomes.”

“The Great Reset is just socialism by another name. History repeatedly shows allowing elites to have unfettered power, as socialism does, serves only the interests of the powerful and politically connected. We already have enough of that in this world.”


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The Great Reset and COVID
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American Thinker
https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...and_covid.html
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Old 09-23-2021, 11:45   #153
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Those that might espouse any other doctrine that suggests power is wielded on behalf of the weak, are either idiots, or the worst possible incarnation of words like "naive" and "gullible"
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Old 09-24-2021, 05:59   #154
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A few of the most salient points below are from a good but somewhat meandering article.

Link to full article provided nonetheless for your convenience.

Destabilization...otherwise climate change, open borders, energy policy, “free” tuition, no voter IDs, gun control, CRT in our schools, and a pandemic, etc., etc., are all examples of tools used by the “elite” opportunists to grab more power (money) from the middle class and redistribute to brainwashed folks who have no love for The Constitution or this nation.

Excerpts below:

********

“The global elites’ response to the pandemic and climate change is the same: the Great Reset (GR). Those pushing the GR are attempting to impose socialism worldwide, especially on energy production and use.”

“The GR has been a long time coming. It is the latest manifestation of the Progressive era faith in scientific managers and unaccountable bureaucrats not beholden to democratic election cycles or bound by allegedly outdated laws and the expressed wishes of We the people. It assumes these experts could, if only given free rein, manage the world’s resources more effectively to meet the true needs of the people, so defined by the elites, better than the commoners can do when operating freely in markets and through elections.”

“The Great Reset is an awful idea if for no other reason than that benign, selfless philosopher-kings are and have always been few and far between, if they have ever existed at all outside of fairy tales and philosophical tomes.”

“The Great Reset is just socialism by another name. History repeatedly shows allowing elites to have unfettered power, as socialism does, serves only the interests of the powerful and politically connected. We already have enough of that in this world.”


September 23, 2021
The Great Reset and COVID
By H. Sterling Burnett
American Thinker
https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...and_covid.html
Thank you tonyz Finest Kind

Excellent summary and exactly why I hate the politicization/weaponization of science.
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Old 10-05-2021, 13:33   #155
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These are the droids we are loo.....

EDIT TO ADD: I initially misread their statement, Legal Insurrection is on point, actively attacking the left and defending our collective rights.

Developed out of the Harvard Law School, legal insurrection intention is to root out socialism and its impact in our society.

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The goal of the Foundation is to take our research, investigative, and educational efforts to a new and more meaningful level. A major, but not exclusive, focus will be on the intersectional left, the crossover of anti-capitalism and anti-Zionism, which are inextricably linked in their minds and which are the driving forces behind current attacks on individual liberty, economic freedom, and freedom of speech. It’s an area that I have focused on for years, long before most others, perhaps because it started on campuses.

We don’t fit neatly into an issue box, which may make it harder for strangers to understand the legal insurrection. But those who know us know our 10-year track record of finding and seizing (aka *pouncing*) on issues of importance and not letting go.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/0...on-foundation/

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Old 10-05-2021, 20:51   #156
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The point of the last post was the concerted academic effort, organized and determined to achieve their ends.

There is no sugar coating on the left. They intend to completely and actively overthrowing the constitutional structure of the "These United States".

It would be of some interest to align those in the legal insurrection to other such movements that align justification of action to ancient , and or, current claims of racial disparage and economic injustice.

The contention here is MSM is the propaganda office and the arbiter of social acceptance. By controlling the media, they own the message, which galvanize the base. The socialist revolution is active and those researchers at LR are need to be supported

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Old 10-06-2021, 07:22   #157
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Question for Penn

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I know your understanding of and education about sociological trends/movements is excellent. I seem to recall a social phenomenon that explains how different groups/tribes of non-human and human primates that are geographically separated arrive at the same new behaviors at the same time.

IIRC this phenomenon accounted for Martin Luther's rise and the Protestant movement as well as the Great Awakening and the American Revolution??

My antennae to these sorts of things is usually pretty sensitive. For example, I was picking up on the emergence of the Populist movement years before it was formally identified, Brexit began, and Trump emerged. I know that I am not unique in this.

Once again, I am sensing rumblings of a major social backlash; this time against over-reaching tyrannical governments. To wit the uprisings in Iran, Hong Kong, China's Uigars and even parents outraged by their local school-boards.

My questions are: (i) What is the social phenemenon where disparate groups arrive at the same thought/behavior at the same time? (ii)Has anything been published about this occurring presently at a scale like the Great Awakening?
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Old 10-06-2021, 08:30   #158
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TJ, The Great Awakening may be a point of departure regarding group behavior to belief system, but instinctively, may be more aligned to fear in uncertain times. It's interesting to compare human collective action to cause, imoo, when conformity is forced upon a group, be it a few or societal, resistance is a natural response to ensure continuation of the whole, possibly a inherent survival mechenism.

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Old 10-12-2021, 17:48   #159
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Trapper, plz excuse my long delay, your question is broad, which in an of itself, the brushstroke is also messy. That said, I emailed a former professor to ask direction and commentary: my reply

"it's exactly what I'm interested in, as it embodies the sense of collective consciousness. iirc, the paper discusses at length the reaction of brokers and other wall streeters, outside the firm, who without formal introduction or conversations, a diverse group comes together for cause. How does that happen" What is the driver? What is the consciousness that propels a like mindedness to bond together to counter an effect, be it a fire, or a national tragedy, what is psychology. that for all practical reasons in a non expression, but an understanding of time and place that in essence is the biblical actualization of Isaiah 6:8.
Would love any expansion on this thought, or an azimuth for academic work on the subject matter."
Thx, df

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https://www.researchgate.net/publica...tember_11_2001
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Old 10-13-2021, 08:48   #160
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Penn- Thank you. I will read the article and get back to here. I am beginning to suspect that we are realizing actualization of Isaiah 6:8 and the explanation may be just that. But that's a matter for a philosophical discussion.
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Old 10-13-2021, 10:50   #161
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Penn - that’s an interesting article about many facets of successful leadership, self-motivation and winning the collective.

I didn’t read the whole thing word for word but skimmed through looking for a talking point, this one little tidbit caught my eye.

d:… the whole idea is that we are at war. It is important to keep our economy going.

The fact that a Wall Street financial officer saw the need to understand the relationship between catastrophic death and destruction and the need to respond and maintain or grow the economy as an extremely important part of the recovery.

Just think if those principles had been used in the aftermath of Covid coming to our shores last year? We certainly would not be where we are today!

I was impressed by their optimism and take the moral approach to solving what must have been at the moment an overwhelming sense of urgency.

Those people could write and survive well on “Leadership” books and seminars. Yes, in the Biblical sense Isaiah 6:8 certainly applies.

ETA: to answer your question “what is the driver?” My response would simply be - purpose.
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Old 10-14-2021, 08:34   #162
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Penn- I read the article. Didn't really answer the broader question regarding collective changes in disparate societal groups. Most everyone on this forum has experienced small group existential adversity and the bonding that results from survival.

I am talking about collective consciousness, awareness, awakenings and the broad society-wide changes that result when they occur. I think this is a very real, palpable phenomenon and they do not require an existential threat.

These events move entire societies in a totally different direction. As I pointed out, they have occurred periodically throughout history. I am just positing that we may be experiencing one again that began with the rise of Populism?
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Old 10-15-2021, 11:01   #163
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Professor. Starr response to my questioning convergence of non expressed thought within a society. We have different views on the Challenger disaster, My thought is due the the over whelming pressure to possible please a President, the Mission chief, gave a go in a NG borderline situation, and the flight commander agreed.

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I don’t have answers to your inquiry about “collective consciousness.” But, you may want to read about groupthink which has been described as the social thinking and collaboration (cognitive) process among an in-group (vs out-group) concerned shared sense of purpose. Many errors have been attributed to this (such as the Challenger disaster: https://www.history.com/news/how-the...r-changed-nasa), but I presume there are also positive outcomes. Here is one quote:

Positive Effects
In situations where extreme levels of disagreement exist, groupthink can impose a level of harmony by seeking and cultivating common ground. ... Groupthink can also promote needed "buy in" by promoting a united front once the decision-making process is complete and implementation begins.

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Old 10-15-2021, 12:22   #164
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Old 10-16-2021, 01:43   #165
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EV, the argument is community organizes for safety, common good, common purpose. "Real" is a construct and subjectively bias by definition in the context of "Real Communities"?
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