04-18-2007, 07:50
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Thanks BAS. As Paul Harvey would say, now we know the rest of the story. Good day.
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04-18-2007, 17:40
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Thank you for your patience!!
Thanks for second chance, I'm glad to be here!
Thank you, sincerelly!!!
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05-14-2007, 13:04
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Follow up..
I found the link below on SOCNET, but it's an article posted on Newsday.com. The article goes into detail about the Navy SEAL Lt. who lead a team of SEALs on Operation Red Wing where only one SEAL survived. JLF's account of what happened is reflected in this article and I thought anyone who was interested in hearing about their mission would like to read this.
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/lo...5.storygallery
Take it easy gentlemen, back to more PT.
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05-15-2007, 20:36
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As I can obviously tell, this topic has been covered ad nauseam, but I thought I would put my two cents in regardless. Though I have never been in the field myself and have never been in a situation where it would call for my decision, I would like to think that my team mates would bring me back regardless. At least for my family's sake.
I once heard about a Delta force guy who carried his dead partner on his back along with his and some of his partner's gear over 5 miles out of the war zone with 3 bullet wounds, a knife wound, and third degree burns over half his body.
It may not be true, but regardless. I believe no man should be left behind.
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05-15-2007, 20:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NaRx
As I can obviously tell, this topic has been covered ad nauseam, but I thought I would put my two cents in regardless. Though I have never been in the field myself and have never been in a situation where it would call for my decision, I would like to think that my team mates would bring me back regardless. At least for my family's sake.
I once heard about a Delta force guy who carried his dead partner on his back along with his and some of his partner's gear over 5 miles out of the war zone with 3 bullet wounds, a knife wound, and third degree burns over half his body.
It may not be true, but regardless. I believe no man should be left behind.
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You should have followed your own advice in your intro, and kept your mouth shut.
Read my comments following your Intro post and stay out of these grown-up discussions. Your input is not needed on this sort of subject. You have no war stories, nor any facts to share. Once you have risked you life, and the lives of others, you MIGHT have some input. Till then, you live in a protected fantasy world, where talk is cheap.
When we get to Pop Culture, you can jump right in. Till then, stay in your lane.
TR
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06-18-2007, 01:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NaRx
I once heard about a Delta force guy who carried his dead partner on his back along with his and some of his partner's gear over 5 miles out of the war zone with 3 bullet wounds, a knife wound, and third degree burns over half his body.
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Was that the one staring Chuck Norris and Lee Marvin???
Admin Edit: You bumped a month old thread with this? Be part of the solution and not the problem. NDD
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06-18-2007, 11:14
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Washington Post frontpage feature on the surviving SEAL from Operation Redwing. I heard its excerpted from a future book.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...061001492.html
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06-18-2007, 17:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by x-factor
Washington Post frontpage feature on the surviving SEAL from Operation Redwing. I heard its excerpted from a future book.
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The book, The Lone Survivor, was released just about a week ago. I'm half way through it.
/hijack
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06-19-2007, 09:06
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Wow.
What an utterly miserable situation to be in.
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06-19-2007, 13:09
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My $0.02
Quote "No one should ever attempt to critique an op without having been there unless there is a compelling reason for doing so and unless you can get as close to the bottom of it as humanly possible." end quote.
DITTO! Wow, can't believe I'm entering this kill zone.
For some more perspective, read Plaster's books. Many had to leave bodies and/or split team members, and many died going back to get them. I did several "Bright Lights" in SOG. In fact, I was on the bird that was shot out when we tried to get Fat Albert's body - it's in John's last book were he ID'd me as the chase medic. BTW, I wasn't a medic - I was on another RT waiting for infil and volunteered as an extra gun for the Bright Light Team.
Been there - done that!!!
I agree with the crusty old SGM in one of the other posts - No one has room to criticize unless they were there.
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06-23-2007, 11:20
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I just recently talked to one of the SF guy's that was there, and actually found him, and it is truly an amazing story. I'm curious how SF is portrayed in the book if at all.
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07-01-2007, 10:51
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Just looked at the book at barnes and nobles, and the SF and ranger guys that found him are briefly mentioned. He is respectable when he talks about them and very grateful, but that portion of his book takes about 3-4 pages.
I told the guy's that got him, that they need to write a book about their experiences. It would be a good addition to his story.
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07-01-2007, 11:30
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I experienced the no man left behind thing in Vietnam. I was a member of the 4th Bn, 2 Corps Mike Force during the siege at Dak Pek in 1970. We tried to take a hill and were pushed back by a large NVA force. My partner was hit in the legs and was brought back to my position. Just then the NVA counter attacked. I could see the NVA coming down the hill. My partner looked at me and said "don't let them get me" my instinct was to run, but i knew i would never be able to live with myself. I had him moved down the hill and i and another American stayed back to hold off the enemy. We almost didn't get out ourselves. The story is much longer and detailed, but i am glad i stayed allowing him to be saved. I think of that incident often and i know i acted well.
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07-13-2007, 06:11
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MSF
I'd love to hear your story sometime.
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09-30-2007, 16:00
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As mentioned, SOG had Brightlight missions to recover bodies. I, also, wouldn't have wanted anyone to get hurt trying to get my body, if they can safely extract. Like the man said, next time you are in the area...
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