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Old 01-06-2022, 09:33   #1516
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I guess I read it differently. I presumed that the FFL would now have to give (provide) each buyer with a lock box/safe, which in turn would add another expense to the FFL holder.
I didn't look at it in the capitalist viewpoint .
But then if the buyer has to buy said lock box then there is more expense for the buyer. All in all just more b.s. to jack with honest people for exercising their constitutional rights.
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Old 01-06-2022, 11:55   #1517
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I haven’t bought a new gun in the last twenty years that didn’t come with cable lock from the manufacturer thrown in the box.

I just bought a new shotgun from Cabela’s and came with a wonky little red metal/plastic trigger lock with two holes and a metal two pronged disk to remove it when I got home. Also included was a small pamphlet to address locking up your firearm and keeping it safe from children.

Best way I know to keep children safe from guns is to give them one when they are young and teach them firearm safety.

Don’t know why the DOJ needs to be involved but I’m sure the law making side of the CDC isn’t far behind.
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Old 01-06-2022, 14:01   #1518
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I haven’t bought a new gun in the last twenty years that didn’t come with cable lock from the manufacturer thrown in the box.

I just bought a new shotgun from Cabela’s and came with a wonky little red metal/plastic trigger lock with two holes and a metal two pronged disk to remove it when I got home. Also included was a small pamphlet to address locking up your firearm and keeping it safe from children.

Best way I know to keep children safe from guns is to give them one when they are young and teach them firearm safety.

Don’t know why the DOJ needs to be involved but I’m sure the law making side of the CDC isn’t far behind.
Brother, the government *always* knows better than you pesky ignorant parents about raising your kids and teaching them about gun safety….
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Old 01-09-2022, 18:16   #1519
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I haven’t bought a new gun in the last twenty years that didn’t come with cable lock from the manufacturer thrown in the box.
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Best way I know to keep children safe from guns is to give them one when they are young and teach them firearm safety.

Don’t know why the DOJ needs to be involved but I’m sure the law making side of the CDC isn’t far behind.
I agree. It is MY responsibility to train all the grandchildren in firearms safety.

CDC was a great organization until about 20 years ago. They need to be dissolved or otherwise done away with now.
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Old 01-09-2022, 19:14   #1520
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I agree. It is MY responsibility to train all the grandchildren in firearms safety.

CDC was a great organization until about 20 years ago. They need to be dissolved or otherwise done away with now.
I recall the Clintonistas had commissioned a study for the CDC to "prove" that violent crime went down during the 10 years of the AWB. Except it didn't - oops. IIRC it took a FOIA request to get the inconveniently embarrasing study out into the public. Yessir, compromised for quite awhile.
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Old 01-10-2022, 12:28   #1521
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Old 01-11-2022, 06:19   #1522
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Is that the function of a single reviewing justice who "covers" that jurisdiction? Do they indicate a rationale when they do that?
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Old 01-12-2022, 08:21   #1523
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Is that the function of a single reviewing justice who "covers" that jurisdiction? Do they indicate a rationale when they do that?
No to both questions!



Don't think, and attorney's believe this case still in play. Sorta, stand by for news.
So most likely reasoning.

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Old 01-26-2022, 10:11   #1524
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:44   #1525
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Great...nothing like a roadmap of who purchases a firearm, who owns a firearm, what type of firearm, where that firearm is located...what could go wrong...and of course the local powers-that-be expect the crim-nals will follow these requirements too...not to mention holy de facto registration Batman.
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Old 01-26-2022, 13:38   #1526
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"This won't stop mass shootings and keep bad people from committing violent crime," the mayor said, but added most gun deaths nationally are from suicide, accidental shootings or other causes and even many homicides stem from domestic violence."

So what is the point of all this? Good for the insurance industry and whoever gets that $25.00 fee.
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Old 01-27-2022, 11:22   #1527
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It's the liberal mindset. They can say they have done something for "gun violence" even though it doesn't do a damn thing for it. But they sure feel better for having "done something". It's how I quit smoking. Tax it higher and higher and hopefully people will just quit buying guns.
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Old 01-29-2022, 11:39   #1528
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Politics is downstream of culture.
Much of culture is now spread through the internet.

Many who lean left are starting to understand the importance of the 2nd Amendment.
Those who have influence in the culture spread this new found understanding.

A couple of left-leaning influencers that come to mind are Tim Pool and JP Sears.
JP just dropped a video concerning his “awakening”.

https://youtu.be/7fKO1-hE2Wg
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Old 01-29-2022, 14:34   #1529
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Politics is downstream of culture.
Much of culture is now spread through the internet.

Many who lean left are starting to understand the importance of the 2nd Amendment.
Those who have influence in the culture spread this new found understanding.

A couple of left-leaning influencers that come to mind are Tim Pool and JP Sears.
JP just dropped a video concerning his “awakening”.

https://youtu.be/7fKO1-hE2Wg
Wow.
I try not to be serious very often but that feels like a pretty transformative video from a guy that has demonstrated a decade's worth or sarcastic leftist mastery at mocking our constitutional freedoms. Imagine - the constitution actually serves BOTH ideological sides of the citizenry.

"I have a family now so now I very much understand that being able to protect your family is part of what makes you a true man, father, husband..."

It's such a breath of fresh air when you see the look in someone's eyes once they start to "get it" - a level of humility that so many of us never achieve. I also like his line:

"well JP, I'm not set up to protect MY family, so, what are you saying?
...well, I'm saying, you're not a real man
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Not a lot of hope.
Just a little.
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Old 03-04-2022, 06:55   #1530
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ATF Cracks down on Form 1 suppressors

This is one of those quasi-firearm topics. There's debate as to whether or not silencers/suppressors are firearms, however being as they are regulated as firearms and this has to do with the legalese of them, I thought this appropriate to post here.

For those not aware of the general background: There are commercially available products that are marketed as storage devices or cleaning aids AKA solvent traps, that can attach to the muzzle of a firearm. These devices would function as a suppressor, however there are no holes in them for the bullet to pass through. If one were to make one of these devices into a suppressor, they would have to follow the appropriate laws and basically receive permission from the BATFE to drill out the device and convert to a suppressor. Historically this was done via Form 1. There are other fine print steps to follow, but that is the gest of the background. A quick web search of Form 1 suppressors will yield a lot more information.

Anecdotally, there is some good research being done among Form 1'ers to advance design commercially and some companies are starting to move from solvent trap manufacturer to SOT/suppressor manufacture with fairly decent results being objectively tested through the Pew Science organization. The average price point of suppressors has also started to come down as a result of the competitive landscape.

The BATFE recently (like 3 days ago recently) began mass denying virtually all Form 1 applications with the explanation that basically 1) because their definition of a silencer includes all the parts needed to make a silencer, and 2) the end user intended to use them as components in the construction of such, that these parts were illegally transferred to the end user and they should fill out a form 4 for these. There was little guidance given, but speculation is that the ATF is trying to kill the Form 1 DIY industry through fear and creating additional cost/red-tape barriers. Those who were not flat out denied seem to be in the middle of an ATF fishing expedition with requests for further information.

A lot see this as the beginning of further regulation to go after "Ghost Guns" and 80% lowers eventually, but starting with NFA items such as suppressors and SBRs (some suggest that pistol braces will be next).

There are tons of logic holes within the ATF's argument and it will no doubt end up in court eventually, however this seems to be more of the same of governance by unelected agency officials through executive orders until they are challenged.

This is the call to action to inform your local elected officials to exert pressure on the ATF if you feel so compelled.
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