07-14-2004, 21:17
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I am very interested in the OGs. If anybody runs across anything, please post it.
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I have a book. "Shadow Warriors" the OSS and the CIA. Good stuff.
What symbolic vestige from the OSS has transferred to the military?
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07-15-2004, 06:22
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Symbolic vestige?
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07-15-2004, 08:35
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I had a few in me when I wrote that.
What symbol form the OSS has transferred to the military and is now part of an official military logo??
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07-15-2004, 09:02
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LOL...
Jimbo was to drunk to 'dumb down' his posts for all of us to understand him.  GOd, I hate really smart people.  LOL
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07-15-2004, 09:16
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I had a few in me when I wrote that.
What symbol form the OSS has transferred to the military and is now part of an official military logo??
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USSOCOM patch is from the OSS.
Now what is the difference in the designs between the two?
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07-15-2004, 09:28
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USSOCOM patch is from the OSS.
Now what is the difference in the designs between the two?
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The USSOCOM spear tip has black lines running vertically?
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07-15-2004, 09:38
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Ah, yet another convert. I'll have to go check some sources, but I think I remember reading the OSS also had a maritime branch that was responsible for underwater combat swimmer-like offensive operations. So I guess you could say that our fine flippered friends in the Navy owe at least a part of their lineage to the OSS as well.
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If my memory serves correctly, there is a stone dedicated to this unit set in the plaza just down the steps from USASOC headquarters. I'd seen it on my first trip to Ft. Bragg a couple years ago. I remember thinking to myself, Col. Applegate never told me about these guys.
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07-15-2004, 09:41
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The USSOCOM spear tip has black lines running vertically?
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Not it.
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07-15-2004, 09:48
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Not it.
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Well, I'm stumped.
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07-15-2004, 10:03
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Anyone else?
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
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07-15-2004, 10:28
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It has three rings around the handle instead two rings as on the OSS patch.
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07-15-2004, 10:30
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It has three rings around the handle instead two rings as on the OSS patch.
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Guy, you are a never ending source of amazement to me!
Correct.
Why does the current one have three instead of two?
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07-15-2004, 10:43
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Sir,
Army, Navy and Air Force forces aligned?
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07-15-2004, 10:45
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Damn Sir...
I was wondering the same thing and began the process of researching.
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07-15-2004, 10:51
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Correct again.
Three Service Components of USSOCOM.
We must have caught Jimbo hung over.
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