07-16-2024, 13:36
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Apparently, he was also shown in a BlackRock video that was filmed at is H.S.
When it was found, was pointed out, BlackRock made that video vanish, very, very fast.
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Exactly, the media is sheep dipping to protect the left
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07-16-2024, 19:13
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A spokesperson for the SS just admitted Trumps normal security detail was not there, given time off for working hard and new and inexperienced agents from the Pittsburgh office replaced them.....
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07-16-2024, 20:28
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07-16-2024, 21:12
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A spokesperson for the SS just admitted Trumps normal security detail was not there, given time off for working hard and new and inexperienced agents from the Pittsburgh office replaced them.....
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I have a hard time accepting this as an excuse if anything it seems an inexperienced team would be hyper vigilant to a fault...also not in a million years do I believe that they were not briefed on each other's locations etc in fact it is confirmed by the top who stated that none of the SS was to be on that particular building because the roof was sloped so ignorance of the layout and a briefing of a plan can be no excuse, the SS shooter knew beforehand that no one was to be there .....this kid walked up to the buildings in view of anyone who cared to
look including the SS, State and local LEO assigned to the duty.....I also understand that LEO was in the building he shot from.
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07-16-2024, 22:23
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07-16-2024, 23:08
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Now circulating on twitter is video of bullet impacts which may indicate a trajectory inconsistent with the position of the shooter.
Time will tell.
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07-17-2024, 08:20
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Reading a lot on this...since any search of the area failed to find the 12 FOOT LADDER he had hidden in a tree next to the LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMAND POST that he used as his static platform, it is not unreasonable to think that he could have cached his weapon there with the ladder as well.
How the USSS and local LE had eyes on this guy for 26 minutes, took a photo of him on the ground and on the roof (sans firearm), and reported him with a rangefinder in hand with nothing done begs so many questions.
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Don't think he needed a ladder the building had one of the metal service ladders attached to the outside, he might have thought he needed it but then just used the unsecured (frailer of security). ladder that was accessible.
Everyone keeps saying how could he miss the shot. I say easy if he was hopped up on adrenalin (just got made by the cop on the ladder) so knew he was going to get caught soon.
Next I don't think he crawled up the the edge and used the peak of the building as support. he was more likely just sitting up and started shooting off hand with no support. (see the reaction from the snipers) He was just seen and they did not believe their eyes that he was so close. Once the shooting started you can also see the spotter start taking cover behind the ridge of the building and not looking though his scope. (caught with pants down and no combat experience is what that tells me.) no conspiracy at all just stupid people, and opportunity.
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07-17-2024, 08:33
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Inquiring minds want to know....how long before Biden talks about that time he was shot in the ear?
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Hillary can't.
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07-17-2024, 08:50
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Not an excuse but what was the skill set level of the Pittsburgh agents? had they worked as a team etc. The SS does other law enforcement like: counterfeiting/fed Fraud and RICO etc. and not all are continually working as security PP.
The questions about one or more shooters will be an interesting eval.
This kid had some kind of help or prior info to execute this imo.
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07-17-2024, 09:33
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A spokesperson for the SS just admitted Trumps normal security detail was not there, given time off for working hard and new and inexperienced agents from the Pittsburgh office replaced them.....
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Somewhere yesterday I read that Trump's normal team was pulled to cover a last minute Jill Biden event. Haven't been able to confirm that though.
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07-17-2024, 11:39
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07-17-2024, 15:10
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The Magic Bullet:
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Now circulating on twitter is video of bullet impacts which may indicate a trajectory inconsistent with the position of the shooter.
Time will tell.
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November 22, 1963, President John F Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas, and The first magic bullet appeared on a gurney at Parkland Hospital. WHY NOT ?
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07-17-2024, 19:52
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Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle...
"That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there's a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. And so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building, from inside," she said.*
https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/18135...gid%3D34739857
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07-17-2024, 20:01
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SS Biden-Buddy hire says they didn't run a drone because they felt that counter-sniper assets were sufficient. Then, read in an aggregation of Fox stories on their timeline that a SS spokesperson told Fox that they hadn't had time to put in for a Special Gov't Interest permit. As both a pilot and a drone owner I will say "Horsehockey!"
The Butler Farm Show & Fair Grounds, including the adjacent little private airstrip to the west, are in Uncontrolled Airspace. There was/is no requirement to submit anything. I could fire my little drone up on the grounds, climb to a nice altitude and peruse all I want. So they're full of shit. One thing they COULD have done is get the FAA to put out a NOTAM (Notice to Airmen) for Special Use Airspace as being restricted fo 'X' numbers of hours up to 'Y' altitude, and they could've run a drone under their own authority because it becomes literally their air.
I verified this with FAA's own software they provide (free, called B4UFLY) so drone oprs can quickly check a piece of airspace (works slick on a Google map type interface). There would be zero problem (other than keeping sufficient batteries charged) to keeping a drone up for the relatively short time needed. Peruse to your heart's content, including areas obstructed to other teams by foliage, structure etc.
Their stories, even among themselves, continue to vaporize like denture adhesive hit with a giant bottle of Coca-Cola®.
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07-18-2024, 08:05
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SS Biden-Buddy hire says they didn't run a drone because they felt that counter-sniper assets were sufficient. Then, read in an aggregation of Fox stories on their timeline that a SS spokesperson told Fox that they hadn't had time to put in for a Special Gov't Interest permit. As both a pilot and a drone owner I will say "Horsehockey!"
The Butler Farm Show & Fair Grounds, including the adjacent little private airstrip to the west, are in Uncontrolled Airspace. There was/is no requirement to submit anything. I could fire my little drone up on the grounds, climb to a nice altitude and peruse all I want. So they're full of shit. One thing they COULD have done is get the FAA to put out a NOTAM (Notice to Airmen) for Special Use Airspace as being restricted fo 'X' numbers of hours up to 'Y' altitude, and they could've run a drone under their own authority because it becomes literally their air.
I verified this with FAA's own software they provide (free, called B4UFLY) so drone oprs can quickly check a piece of airspace (works slick on a Google map type interface). There would be zero problem (other than keeping sufficient batteries charged) to keeping a drone up for the relatively short time needed. Peruse to your heart's content, including areas obstructed to other teams by foliage, structure etc.
Their stories, even among themselves, continue to vaporize like denture adhesive hit with a giant bottle of Coca-Cola®.
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I'm a drone owner too...what SS said is total BS. It would take the SS less than 5 minutes to get the airspace around the event restricted to aircraft other than their own. After the lessons learned in Ukraine with drone warefare, you'd think restricting airspace around an event would be a line on the security checklist routinely filled out in advance.
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