06-27-2004, 21:48
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Michael Moore Claims Fahrenheit 9/11 Big at Bragg
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MOORE: 'We sold out in Fayetteville, home of Fort Bragg, We sold out in Army-base towns. We set house records in some of these places. We set single-day records in a number of theaters. We got standing ovations in Greensboro, N.C... The biggest news to me this morning is this is a red-state movie. Republican states are embracing the movie, and it's sold out in Republican strongholds all over the country...
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06-27-2004, 21:54
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Deceit and deception is breathtaking
By Joe Scarborough
Updated: 12:10 p.m. ET June 25, 2004
I went to see “Fahrenheit 9/11” Thursday expecting to be entertained despite political objections, but I was wrong. To say Moore took liberty with the truth would be like saying that Ken Lay took liberties with Enron's accounting practices. Fahrenheit 9/11,” like Enron's accountants, obviously figured that when it came to making money, the end justified the means.
In both cases, the scale of deceit and deception is breathtaking. Though I'd need four hours to tell you the list of all the falsehoods from Moore's two-hour movie, let me give you a few glimpses into his twisted logic:
Moore's movie begins by pitching his conspiracy theory about the 2000 election. We're all told in the audience by all recounting methods Al Gore won Florida. That drew a big gasp from the crowd. But, shockingly, this first fact cited by Moore's movie is a lie. Didn't anybody associated with Miramax or Michael Moore's movie read newspapers after the election, when some of America's most liberal papers published results from their independent review of Florida's ballots, concluding it was George W. Bush who won by all recounting methods?
And what of the second conspiracy theory, suggesting that George W. Bush kept Americans grounded after 9/11 but let the bin Laden family escape American airspace scot-free? An FBI agent suggested President Bush's action was an insult to 3,000 dead Americans, while Democratic Senator Byron Dorgan dramatically demands on tape that we must have an investigation to find out who approved this.
But Michael and the senator both know who approved the bin Laden transfer: It was none other than that Bush-bashing hero of the left, Richard Clarke. He admitted it in the 9/11 Commission. Now, it's funny how Michael Moore used Clarke's 9/11 testimony to bash Bush in other parts of the movie, but decided to edit out that part that lays waste to bin Laden-and- Bush conspiracy theory.
These two gross distortions are in the first five minutes of the film. But I can tell you that this film can only add to coarsening of America's democracy. Moore seems to promote the following slanderous conspiracy theories in his movie:
* The Bushes and the bin Ladens were so close that Bush let their family skip out of town while Americans were grounded,
* That the bin Laden family somehow helped George W. Bush start his first oil company, and that George W. Bush cares more about Saudi Arabia than America because the Saudis funneled $1.4 billion to Bush family interests.
* America didn't invade Afghanistan to kick out the Taliban. America attacked Afghanistan so we could put an oil pipeline in Afghanistan. That's why George Bush didn't care if the Taliban got away. (Oh, really? I don't think they got away.)
* The White House purposely tried to scare Americans into believing there was a terror threat after 9/11 so they could pass the Patriot Act, which they had already dreamed up before these 9/11 attacks even occurred.
* We invaded Iraq for no other reason than their oil, allowing young American kids to die just so oil companies could make more money.
Now, there are hundreds of conspiracy theories that are simply unsupported by the facts. But Moore goes on to show pictures of dead Iraqi babies, followed immediately by American soldiers talking about the rush they got listening to rock C.D.s while they shot at anything they moved in Iraq. Why didn't Moore just write "baby killers" on the screen and point to U.S. troops?
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Michael Moore would make this kind of movie, but I am stunned that movie critics, Hollywood moguls and liberal movie viewers across America really think so little of America, its soldiers and its leaders.
Friends, it's a dark, grim and distorted perspective of our great nation. I think it's just wrong.
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06-27-2004, 22:02
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Well, I am all about freee speech, but this is one movie I won't bother to see. I can't stand looking at the guy....
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06-27-2004, 22:02
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This slob wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit him in the arse. He will stop at nothing including distorting the truth and making a mockery of and slamming our Military, POTUS and everything else.
Can't he just develop heart disease or something and go the hell away?
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06-27-2004, 22:13
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Gypsy, I think that would be too kind for him. Perhaps he should be strapped to a chair and forced to watch all of his pathetic movies over and over until he begs for mercy!
One can only hope...
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06-27-2004, 22:17
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I must be evil GracieLou...I had something far more insidious in mind...
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06-27-2004, 23:13
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Is it me or is he really starting to look like Fat Bastard from the Austin Powers movies?
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06-28-2004, 02:25
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http://www.klas-tv.com/global/story....Type=Printable
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Movie Goer Assaulted at Fahrenheit 9/11 Showing
(Jun. 25) -- The highly anticipated film, Fahrenheit 9/11, came with more than just controversy at one Las Vegas movie theatre. Moviegoer, Richard Streeter, was one of the many who made his way to a theatre to see what the hype was about. After viewing the film, he was greeted outside the theatre by members of the Las Vegas MoveOn.org.
The group was handing out leaflets on the importance of the film. Streeter voiced his view on the movie, "I made the comment, apples and oranges -- Kerry, Bush -- one's no better than the other. You really ain't got much of a choice. This guy comes up to me and says, 'Oh yeah?' " Streeter was then spat on by the same man.
He attempted to call police to report the incident when he was told not to, "A guy standing next to him said why don't you drop it. I said, 'No, I'm calling the police. I'm exercising my right as a citizen, I've been assaulted.' "
But the horror kept on growing for Streeter as he walked to his car on the phone with police, "This guy turns, and totally by surprise takes his hand and bam! It was a big guy. Shoved me onto the ground, I hit my head." A police report has been filed.
The film is a portrayal of President Bush and his administration. Filmmaker Michael Moore admits Fahrenheit 9/11 is his personal attack on the President and intends to change voters' minds. The President's supporters say the movie is being used for propaganda.
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06-28-2004, 04:56
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Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
Is it me or is he really starting to look like Fat Bastard from the Austin Powers movies?
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06-28-2004, 06:00
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Re: Michael Moore Claims Fahrenheit 9/11 Big at Bragg
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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
from Drudge Report:
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MOORE: 'We sold out in Fayetteville, home of Fort Bragg, We sold out in Army-base towns. We set house records in some of these places. We set single-day records in a number of theaters. We got standing ovations in Greensboro, N.C... The biggest news to me this morning is this is a red-state movie. Republican states are embracing the movie, and it's sold out in Republican strongholds all over the country...
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Open Letter to Mr. Moore:
Sir:
You are correct, your latest "documentary", Farenheit 9/11 is a tremendous hit on Ft. Bragg, in fact, I am the Prresident of your local fan club.
Your many fans here invite you to come down for a showing of your "movie", perhaps in the SGT York Theater, after which we would love to meet you and discuss politics, moviemaking, and physical training at the GB Club.
Lest you think our tastes are too plebian for you, there is a Krispy Kreme here and you look ike the sort of "man" who would appreciate a fine doughnut and the opportunity to meet the working man.
In fact, you are so revered here in Fayetteville, perhaps we could arrange additional opportunities to meet your other fan clubs at the SF Association, the American Legion Lodge, and the VFW. Even the local NRA members want to meet you, they want you to come to the range with them.
Please let me know soonest if you can make it, the Sports USA on post is trying to get Jane Fonda to come at the same time to discuss the finer points of AA gunnery and prisoner abuse.
Looking forward to seeing you up close and in person.
TR
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06-28-2004, 06:12
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Is it me or is he really starting to look like Fat Bastard from the Austin Powers movies?
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I couldn't take up bandwidth posting this.
Check this out at your own risk
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06-28-2004, 06:28
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"Get in my belly!"
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06-28-2004, 07:14
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"Sold out in Fayetteville", what this means is someone got a bootleg tape and only had four chairs to put around the tv.
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06-28-2004, 07:37
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I really don't know if it sold out in Fort Bragg or other military towns but it wouldn't suprise me if Moore rented out small theaters in those areas just to say they sold out in military towns. Nothing that fat slob does could suprise me any more.
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06-28-2004, 07:38
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Sir: I hope you realize...
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Originally posted by The Reaper
Open Letter to Mr. Moore:
Sir:
You are correct, your latest "documentary", Farenheit 9/11 is a tremendous hit on Ft. Bragg, in fact, I am the Prresident of your local fan club.
Your many fans here invite you to come down for a showing of your "movie", perhaps in the SGT York Theater, after which we would love to meet you and discuss politics, moviemaking, and physical training at the GB Club.
Lest you think our tastes are too plebian for you, there is a Krispy Kreme here and you look ike the sort of "man" who would appreciate a fine doughnut and the opportunity to meet the working man.
In fact, you are so revered here in Fayetteville, perhaps we could arrange additional opportunities to meet your other fan clubs at the SF Association, the American Legion Lodge, and the VFW. Even the local NRA members want to meet you, they want you to come to the range with them.
Please let me know soonest if you can make it, the Sports USA on post is trying to get Jane Fonda to come at the same time to discuss the finer points of AA gunnery and prisoner abuse.
Looking forward to seeing you up close and in person.
TR
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If Mr. Moore were to take you up on your offer...especially on FBNC! The FOGs and I would cause complete pandemonium and chaos the Fayetteville Times wouldn't have enough photographers or reporters to cover all "avenues of approach" to whipping his ass!
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