02-26-2024, 06:56
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Very interesting (and quite disturbing) read for sure. I was placed on zocor and later crestor for years and had tendon issues from both (torn lower bicep tendon and incredible pain in left Achilles tendon). Current Doc finally said that I should never use statins again. He put me on an injectable (Repatha) a couple of years ago and I have not had any known side effects as of yet.
Has anyone heard or experienced any issues with Repatha?
Thanks.
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02-26-2024, 20:17
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I stopped all statins. I was given them all and some produced no positive results but lots of negative results like high cholesterol and sore muscles also huge bruises. They all went away when I stopped taking them. The one medication that works for me is a synthetic omega 3. There is also one medication they will not prescribe for me and that is that synthetic omega 3…
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02-26-2024, 22:04
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Statins have been great for my LDL. YMMV.
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02-27-2024, 05:21
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The one medication that works for me is a synthetic omega 3. There is also one medication they will not prescribe for me and that is that synthetic omega 3…
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Sadly, I'm not shocked to hear of something like this.
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02-27-2024, 18:50
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RL, it may be good for your LDL, but cholesterol produces a chemical that supports Bain activity and may be linked the connectivity of synapsis in the brain.
Stains that lower LDL attack the liver function that produces cholesterol, lower cholesterol production and in the process the protective layer insulation the brain, which is Myelin, Myelin is produce by cholesterol and is destroyed by Stains.
After the covid scam, I have very little trust in Doctors as they just follow protocols that are dictated to them via Big Pharma. And they all get paid on the amount of scripts they write for a given drug.
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02-28-2024, 08:32
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Interesting topic. My wife's short term memory has become worse with each and every year, and she gets severe muscle cramps from time to time. She was under the opinion that the memory loss may have been due to a surgery on her heart valve, but I mentioned this topic to her last evening and got her attention.
She take 40mg of Atorvastatin (generic Lipitor) was curious if dosage amount might contribute this side effect.
Penn mentioned that statin's can or do attack liver function so I would be curious to know if statin use might coincide with the huge influx of NASH aka None Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease. And if you have liver disease your chances of Type II diabetes and heart disease increase. Heart disease and Type II diabetes is a huge problem in the US.
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02-28-2024, 11:42
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Interesting topic. My wife's short term memory has become worse with each and every year, and she gets severe muscle cramps from time to time. She was under the opinion that the memory loss may have been due to a surgery on her heart valve, but I mentioned this topic to her last evening and got her attention.
She take 40mg of Atorvastatin (generic Lipitor) was curious if dosage amount might contribute this side effect.
Penn mentioned that statin's can or do attack liver function so I would be curious to know if statin use might coincide with the huge influx of NASH aka None Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease. And if you have liver disease your chances of Type II diabetes and heart disease increase. Heart disease and Type II diabetes is a huge problem in the US.
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Yes this is interesting, I have been taking 80mg of Atorvastatin for almost ten years now and in the past year have suffered from severe leg cramps on an almost daily basis. I see the term muscle pain does that equate to cramps? Paslode what type of cramping does your wife suffer from if I may ask?
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02-28-2024, 11:55
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Paslode. Average dose
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Penn mentioned that statin's can or do attack liver function so I would be curious to know if statin use might coincide with the huge influx of NASH aka None Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease. And if you have liver disease your chances of Type II diabetes and heart disease increase. Heart disease and Type II diabetes is a huge problem in the US.
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I have not read any articles relating Atorvastatin to NASH aka None Alcoholic Fatty Liver disease
The bottom line is Atorvastatin which lower LDL impacts the production of Myelin, the chemical which protects the brain from dementia. But, more importantly, there are no studies the definitively state that high ch causes heart disease.
In my mind, if there is uncertainty in the benefit/results of a drug to remedy a known condition, and that remedy is prescribe on a hypothetical: that high ch causes heart disease, but can't be proven, then why ingest a substance with side effects that prove to possess life diminishing qualities?
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02-28-2024, 12:31
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In my mind, if there is uncertainty in the benefit/results of a drug to remedy a known condition, and that remedy is prescribe on a hypothetical: that high ch causes heart disease, but can't be proven, then why ingest a substance with side effects that prove to possess life diminishing qualities?
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We grew up trusting our medical professionals and institutions without much reservation. However Big Gov, Big Insurance, Big Medical, Big Pharma and Big AG have seemingly worked hand in hand and taken advantage of that trust to haul in Big Money by keeping you sick or compromised.
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02-28-2024, 20:57
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CBtenar.
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If the cramps are in your calfs and the pain increases as you walk, there is a very high percentage outcome that those cramps are caused by a DVT.
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Symptoms of DVT (deep vein thrombosis)
throbbing pain in 1 leg (rarely both legs), usually in the calf or thigh, when walking or standing up.
swelling in 1 leg (rarely both legs)
warm skin around the painful area.
red or darkened skin around the painful area – this may be harder to see on brown or black skin.
DVT (deep vein thrombosis) - NHS
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https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/deep-vein-thrombosis-dvt/
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02-29-2024, 18:20
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Thanks for the info RE DVT, my cramps are generally in both upper hamstrings and strike at anytime.
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