10-18-2004, 13:16
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In that dark period, it is said, Frederick was on the verge of suicide. However, the accession (1762) of his admirer, Peter III of Russia, took Russia out of the war and opened Frederick’s way to victory.
Another lucky ass.
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He knows only The Cause.
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10-18-2004, 13:27
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[QUOTE=Desert Fox]
"Un général ne doit pas seulement être bon, encore doit-il être chanceux."
"You don't need big words (or foriegn languages) to speak the truth" -Chief Seatle
What's your point?
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10-18-2004, 13:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
In that dark period, it is said, Frederick was on the verge of suicide. However, the accession (1762) of his admirer, Peter III of Russia, took Russia out of the war and opened Frederick’s way to victory.
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HAHAHA!!! LOL LOL
Yes you are right on that point.
BUT
"La Prusse était à l'époque une nation d'importance moyenne, mais qui en raison de son professionnalisme et de son système de conscription unique, a pu tenir tête à une coalition réunissant les principales puissances de l'époque."
"In those times Prussia was a middle-class nation, but because of her professionalism and her unique conscription system, was able to hold against a coalition composed of the major powers of that time."
LOL
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10-18-2004, 13:37
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[QUOTE=Big Chief]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Desert Fox
"Un général ne doit pas seulement être bon, encore doit-il être chanceux."
"You don't need big words (or foriegn languages) to speak the truth" -Chief Seatle
What's your point?
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That's a game.
Seriously, the French versions are just as references.
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10-21-2004, 10:27
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If I may interject something here, I'd like to:
I'm 27 years old, married, and have been considering going NG SF for some time. What I'd like to say is that, if someone is 18 years old and considering the military, don't be a dumbass (like me) and decide not to go. My wife will tell you - I kick myself every day for being a dumbass at 18 and not joining the Army. When I got a little older and had the opportunity to be around guys that were former SF, I realized, "Damn, that's what I was missing out on. That's what I've been looking for my whole life." Some of the very ideas expressed in this thread - the brotherhood, the comraderie, "To Free the Oppressed" - these are all ideas I concepts I've looked for my whole life. Don't wake up one day staring at 30, and realize that you blew it when you were young. I've never been in the Army, never been SF, but, God as my witness, if I could go back, I'd take life by the balls and join up pronto. I'm really not that old, in the grand scheme of things - 27 is still a young pup. Looking at what I've missed, though, I feel like a damned old man looking back on his life. For you young guys, don't be like this dumbass.
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10-21-2004, 11:04
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If I may interject something here, I'd like to:
I'm 27 years old, married, and have been considering going NG SF for some time. What I'd like to say is that, if someone is 18 years old and considering the military, don't be a dumbass (like me) and decide not to go. My wife will tell you - I kick myself every day for being a dumbass at 18 and not joining the Army. When I got a little older and had the opportunity to be around guys that were former SF, I realized, "Damn, that's what I was missing out on. That's what I've been looking for my whole life." Some of the very ideas expressed in this thread - the brotherhood, the comraderie, "To Free the Oppressed" - these are all ideas I concepts I've looked for my whole life. Don't wake up one day staring at 30, and realize that you blew it when you were young. I've never been in the Army, never been SF, but, God as my witness, if I could go back, I'd take life by the balls and join up pronto. I'm really not that old, in the grand scheme of things - 27 is still a young pup. Looking at what I've missed, though, I feel like a damned old man looking back on his life. For you young guys, don't be like this dumbass.
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Crip is over 30 years old.
We have had Guard soldiers at SFAS over 40.
Your mind sets the limit.
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10-21-2004, 11:18
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Really? I didn't know you could get in over 30. I shall have to read your information posts at SOCNET more carefully. I'll go ahead and knock them out now for being unprepared.
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10-21-2004, 14:11
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When I got to my team, I was the second youngest guy at 28 years old.
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10-21-2004, 17:44
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Old my...
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Really? I didn't know you could get in over 30. I shall have to read your information posts at SOCNET more carefully. I'll go ahead and knock them out now for being unprepared.
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LEStudent:
As TR stated earlier, I am over 30 now, 32 to be exact and am the third oldest in my PH 1-A class(thats SOPC for you NDD). There are quite a few older guys going thru the pipeline right now so dont let your age alone stop you, it sure is not going to stop me. I am in my prime...or atleast thats what they are telling me here...
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10-21-2004, 19:23
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In the JTF-2, canadian SOFs, the average age is 28.
With me that's an "issue" because I am only 23. I heard many rumors saying they tend to refuse young guys.
I know they want mature people. I asked about the age issue to someone who is in a good place to know. The reply I received was...."The average age in the army is even higher, and you are in".
Damn right!
Hey, I have another quote for the situation:
"Today is the first day of the rest of your life."
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10-22-2004, 02:20
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I did it for the challenge! Seen the movie with John Wayne, never knew it was career field.
Found out later it was an occupation and volunteered.
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10-22-2004, 06:44
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Old Guys
I just turned 35 and am planning to go to Selection this summer. AND go into a guard unit. I know. I know. I got the lecture from some of my SF buddies....
Stew Smith, trainer to the stars, is my age and says he still goes down to BUDs and smokes the younger guys. The older you get, the longer it takes to recover - ice, rest, and a six pack of liquid asprin. Age means as much as shoe size.
The only thing keeping you from SF is you.
Reaper said it best "Your mind sets the limit."
PS - I am not just planning on going to Selection, I am training to kick it in the ass!
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10-22-2004, 09:06
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Why go SF?
I’m betting you’re reading this and preparing yourself for some deep and meaningful insight as to why I chose to “go SF”. This may alarm some (non SF’ers) but the reason I chose SF was as simple, they didn’t wear helmets in the field.
Having been in the 82nd ABN Div (infantry) for three years left me with a love hate relationship with helmets. In my opinion they’re only good for jumping as they impaired my hearing and sight, both of which I relied heavily on during missions.
Now why I stayed in SF is another story and much of the reason for this website. Special Forces is a unit and a group of men unlike any other I’ve ever seen in training or on the battlefield. It was a pleasure to have served with such honorable men.
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10-22-2004, 09:35
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I grew up in BDUs. Strange childhood, but I was exposed to SF guys at an early age. I knew it's what I wanted to do when I was old enough to join the military. The way of life and comradarie cannot be compared to anything else. I served in the Infantry for ten years before going to SFAS. I even ETSd one time. My wife and I both knew it was a big mistake and one I would regret. I set my mind to it, came back in and less than a year later made it through selection. LEStudent, don't worry about the age. You can do it. Set your mind to it, tighten your bootlaces and come on. You'll enjoy it.
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10-22-2004, 12:10
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AND go into a guard unit. I know. I know. I got the lecture from some of my SF buddies....
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I don't get this.
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