01-30-2013, 10:23
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Well played
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Thanks but we're not playing. We mean what we say and say what we mean.
The letter was crafted by many Special Forces soldiers, now the American public knows how we feel about the 2nd Amendment and why.
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01-30-2013, 10:46
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Thank You!
I appreciate the well written petition and only hope that our politicians see the truth in it. They are so often only interested in their own political agenda and supporting whatever cause gets them re-elected that they forget that they are there to work for the people.
Thank you!
We'd appreciate it if you'd go to the following link and follow the instructions - especially item #3 - before posting any further.
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ead.php?t=3452
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01-30-2013, 10:49
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Thank You - I plan on sharing with friends and family - whoever will listen. I apprecaiate the stand by the "Quiet Professionals"
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01-30-2013, 11:21
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A betting man would wager that the Oath of will be changed soon and re-sworn. I pledge loyalty to der Leader.......
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01-30-2013, 12:15
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It's getting big. Top story at The Blaze.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...2nd-amendment/
"The letter was originally posted on the website Professional Soldiers, a forum that Military.com explained is operated by retired Army Special Forces Master Sgt. Jeff Hinton. Military.com also noted that the 1,100 signatories were not officially named due to the nature of their careers, but the letter notes all are current or former Special Forces members.
“Like you, we are also loving and caring fathers and grandfathers. Like you, we have been stunned, horrified, and angered by the tragedies of Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, Fort Hood, and Sandy Hook; and like you, we are searching for solutions to the problem of gun-related crimes in our society,” the letter by “Team Sergeant” reads."
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01-30-2013, 12:23
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
Thanks but we're not playing. We mean what we say and say what we mean.
The letter was crafted by many Special Forces soldiers, now the American public knows how we feel about the 2nd Amendment and why.
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TS,
The comment was about the effectiveness of the document, not the serious nature of the endeavour.
SnT.
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01-30-2013, 12:43
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Clarification
Just a point of clarification: I didn't post the link to that trash site to demoralize anyone. I was just dumbfounded (though I shouldn't have been at this point) at the sheer idiocy of the posts by the idiots there. Although we can expect American society to have elements that are anti-military/pacifist/tree-hugger/socialist/marxist/etc, it reinforces to me that we have some folks who are truly incapable of seeing through the fog of verbal persuasion to understand what's really happening in this country.
I had a chance to chat with one of the signers of this doc last night, and expressed my gratitude. Personally, it's quite refreshing to see such a document made public, and most of the blogs I've read had comments that reflected my feelings. Even though this document is an expression of opinion, not call to action (as was told to me), I doubt most civilians understand the true magnitude of the document.
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That's what I've seen as well, a general sense of excitement and gratitude that some of America's finest warriors have spoken up.
I don't want to focus on the negative comments I've seen, as many of those are to be expected. Instead, I'm hoping many of those Americans quietly watching in the background...many like me, tired, over-stretched in our lives, with no time for political BS...I'm hoping those people are now waking up and paying attention to the larger issues at hand. Anyone in a "neutral" wait-and-see position right now is not neutral at all. They're being dragged backwards in a mis-directed wave of hysteria. This is the time to do something, not wait.
It's too bad more Americans can't know you QPs, individually, to understand the weight of your words. The QPs I have the privilege of calling Friends are not about fear, loathing and love of violence. The exact opposite: they love and value their country, are positive and full of laughter. And when they speak, I listen.
Well done, gentlemen.
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01-30-2013, 12:58
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Some comments on the letter from THER BLAZE
Some comments on the letter from THE BLAZE
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cdn1979 Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:54pm
so, what is the point of this letter? who cares who signs it, what it says, or who sees it? The content is no different than other pro gun stances. It makes sense, but what is the value add of it? who is it for?
Thundergod Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:24pm
When a Green Beret speaks, people are wise to listen. These men train freedom fighters to throw off the yoke of tyranny. When they see it in America, those politicians imposing tyranny should recognize they arent working to free men,but to enslave them.
True American66 Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:36pm
An outstanding correspondence from the protectors of freedom to the masses they protect.
This letter represents a knowledgeable, comprehensive, analysis of a complex and emotional issue. I couldn’t be more proud of these fine American men. It seems that smart, sincere collaboration can still exist somewhere among us. I am not at all surprised that it would come from some of our most respected and trustworthy military members. Gentlemen, I salute you.
BlackCrow Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:17pm
There have been those who would question if ordered would the military take our guns. I would submit these outstanding young people would be standing on the side of liberty and the Constitution. Why would Obama call for an armed federal civilian corps? Why do Communists want to further gut the military? I would submit this as the reason. This is not the scribblings of an uneducated trailer park redneck or the member of an underclass who the Army is the employer of last resort.
I would be honored to load the authors magazines!
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01-30-2013, 13:27
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Some comments on the letter from THER BLAZE
This was my personal favorite........
Some comments on the letter from THER BLAZE:
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blanco5
Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:51pm
Well, we know who the first 1,100 people the government is going after!
My answer:
blanco5,
Just WHO do you think the government would send?
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01-30-2013, 13:36
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A betting man would wager that the Oath of will be changed soon and re-sworn. I pledge loyalty to der Leader.......
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I am a betting man, and I'll bet it doesn't happen. The oath will stay as it is.
Is there an 'over-under' or 'point spread'?
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01-30-2013, 13:44
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I am a betting man, and I'll bet it doesn't happen. The oath will stay as it is.
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I agree - as it should IMO.
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01-30-2013, 13:52
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I just sent a tip to Drudge that it's a top story on the blaze.
We shall see.
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01-30-2013, 13:52
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I am the webmaster for WarontheSecond.com and with the main writer's permission I've put it up there in our featured section. We've gone over 10,000 unique visitors in the first month and 120,000 page hits. Not nearly as big as the Blaze but the more eyes the better
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01-30-2013, 14:07
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As a citizen or anyone living in the USA enjoying most of the fruits of citizenship, what are we to do? Ignore the problems and hope they go away? Trust that “someone else” will do something? Focus our action to voting and other political input and hope that’s enough? Or do “We the People” have to contemplate and perhaps accept that if left unchecked, we may actually have to fight a rogue government in order to preserve the Republic as it was created? Is the divisive nature of politicians part of an orchestrated effort to not only split the people apart, but to also split the nation?
When America began, I believe God was on our side and I believe that God has been on the American side throughout history and is evident when you look at the results. However, over the last two or three decades our elected representatives, our public schools and colleges, our lawyers, our public servants at all levels, and perhaps most importantly, our media has been trying to take God out of the USA in all but the most private of venues. There is a much needed discussion that has to take place or be started in many groups about the true state of the Nation and what the real, non-politically correct reasons are behind what could be argued, is a spiraling state of decline.
Great letter and count on me for being among its supporters.
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01-30-2013, 14:09
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
This was my personal favorite........
Some comments on the letter from THER BLAZE:
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blanco5
Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:51pm
Well, we know who the first 1,100 people the government is going after!
My answer:
blanco5,
Just WHO do you think the government would send?
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I can't even remember who said this but it always stuck:
"Telling someone they're about to step on a landmine isn't a threat. It's simply good manners."
Still, while I'm appreciative of the very affirming nature of the reaction to the letter, I hope to see at least an equal amount of focus amongst those venues on the specific recommendations made - because it is a communication that also furthers a dialogue IF the other party is truly willing to have one - containing another side of what an actual conversation would be. As Clint Eastwood said to the chair, "No, you shut up for now, it's my turn to talk."
If not, then the last thing they hear under their foot may be 'click'...
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