Trust in the Military - Page 2

MR2 · 12-12-2022, 10:15

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

I watched Patton for probably the 134th time the other day. Watch the opening scene, where he's speaking in front of the big flag. Listen to what he says, and compare his characterization of the US with what we are seeing today. Ask your self how this country has reversed its entire ethos 180 degrees in such a short period of time.

The US insurgency that started in the 1960s, or perhaps earlier, has succeeded in flipping the whole freaking country on its head. They are now in power. Now we celebrate losers and demonize winners. I don't see any of it changing unless we bring out the playbook and actually use it. Here.

It's past time!

Badger52 · 12-13-2022, 05:38

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Originally Posted by MR2

It's past time!

Enjoyed with a glass of fine Pinochet Noir.

Penn · 01-01-2023, 20:02

Over the years I have recruited a number of individuals in my employ to enlist.

Two have reached Field Grade Appointments.

One women is Ranger Qualified. There is rumor, but no confirm she is, or has finished the pipeline. I can info ID on a back channel if interested.

My grandson, I convinced not to enlist. It broke my heart, but this current policalsocial construct can only be defeated if we do not feed our chiltern in to their
meat grinder.

I have no faith in the future of this republic to survive the onslaught of woke cultural
activism. YMMV

JimP · 01-02-2023, 07:22

Penn, I am with you Brother. I cannot, in good conscience, recommend the military to any of the kids of today. My own kids are of prime age to enlist and it breaks my heart that I cannot recommend it to little man who desperately needs the structure, camaraderie, and maturity that it would give him in his developmental years. But I can't feed him into the beast that automatically labels him a privileged racist premised upon the color of his skin; or an institution that wants to toss him into the meat grinder of some third-world shit hole because: "reasons."

I also sincerely believe that we have become barbarians since Madelain Half-Bright and $Bill stuck our nose in militant adventurism about the world; we have not yet recovered from our hubris, adventurism, barbarity, and arrogance.

The level of "stoopid" today is astounding. It is the worst I've seen in my 36 years in uniform and my six years as a DA civilian. We're tilting at the windmills of progressivism and woke ideology rather than leaning our formations towards lethality. Look no further than the current Chairman: Thoroughly Modern "woke" Milley; the fat bastard is a national embarrassment. And I call him a fat bastard as he continually tests the tensile strength of his uniform threads while we toss Soldiers out for busting the height/weight standards (unless you're Chairman).

We're due a reckoning and it's not going to be pretty.

JJ_BPK · 01-02-2023, 07:35

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Originally Posted by Penn

My grandson, I convinced not to enlist. It broke my heart, but this current policalsocial construct can only be defeated if we do not feed our chiltern in to their
meat grinder.

I have no faith in the future of this republic to survive the onslaught of woke cultural
activism. YMMV

I disagree,,
By not participating you are condoling and encouraging this decline.
The wokes are a brainless juggernaut bent on destroying this nation.
We can not let that happen.

MR2 · 01-02-2023, 10:01

"At this point, what does it matter anymore"... Hillary Clinton

Surf n Turf · 01-02-2023, 20:15

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Originally Posted by Penn

I have no faith in the future of this republic to survive the onslaught of woke cultural activism. YMMV

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Originally Posted by JimP

I cannot, in good conscience, recommend the military to any of the kids of today. My own kids are of prime age to enlist and it breaks my heart that I cannot recommend it to little man who desperately needs the structure, camaraderie, and maturity that it would give him in his developmental years.
We're due a reckoning and it's not going to be pretty.

To follow on with Penn & JimP, I don’t believe any political savior charging in on a white horse, or patriotic citizens with just causes, will change our course, and the nation cannot be “saved” and will in fact (shortly) turn into something we cannot view nor abide.

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By not participating you are condoling and encouraging this decline.
The wokes are a brainless juggernaut bent on destroying this nation.
We can not let that happen.

JJ BPK, I fear it is far to late to change our country’s destiny. That effort should have started in the ‘70’s onward.

It is our fault (the thinking class) that allowed Ms Clinton’s husband, Jorge Bush, and the Kenyon to take the “training wheels” off of our Republic (and call it a democracy), and accelerate the 1960’s slide into this sewer of socialism, greed, envy, and empty values. We have reached our end point. We are no longer repopulating our country with like minded citizens, we are overrun with “outsiders” who share neither our values, nor our history. They wish to erase the foundation markers of our land, villainize our forefathers and heros, degrade our contribution to advancement of universal culture and law, and feed upon the bounty of our country, while wishing for it’s demise.

The dissolving of These United States of America spells the coming end to western civilization.

SnT

**Box** · 01-03-2023, 14:57

Greed is an unfortunate natural affliction that impacts all human pursuits. It permeates every undertaking. It's why the Army shifted from a theme of service in their recruiting videos to a theme of benefits in their recruiting videos.
Be all that you can be - my bipolar, cant pass a PT test, kicked out of school for drugs, don't want to be bothered while I am gaming, ass.
...instead, we now have an 'Army Gaming Team' that talks about all the waivers and exceptions that you will need before you can gain access to all of the sweet benefits you will get for enlisting.

Service?
Fuck that.
What will you give me if I join up?

"We" in the military will zealously proclaim that part of the problem is the constant din of the "every one gets a soccer trophy" culture at the same time that we dutifully sit down and write everyone a service award for deployments - or PCS awards.
"We the people" are also the ones RAISING those kids that cant pass a PT test, got kicked out of school for drugs, and don't want to be bothered while they are gaming.

We the people don't trust the military because it is ran by people that WE elected to run it - and it is filled with kids that WE the people raised.
Garbage in - garbage out.

We talk about problems with diversity and standards - but these two screen grabs are REAL recruiting ads from 40 years ago...
...and they didn't help during the 70's - because young people didn't trust the Army then either.

The problems have always been the same - in the 60's kids didnt want to enlist because life was good - go to college - smoke some dope - wear some bell bottoms - fuck a few of your classmates - rinse - repeat...
...and you want me to give that up to fight an unpopular war that cant even be agreed on by the people running it?

No thanks. Its sounds a lot like Irag/Afghanistan/Ukraine except for its a flashback to the 60s...
...the generation that protested war - the generation that protested the establishment - the generation that protested corporate greed - the generation that produced the current politicians that make up an establishment that thrives on corporate greed to pay for never ending wars while enabling politically expedient insider trading.

Young people can see when an organization is full of shit - it transcends generations and genders and race and religion.
...but hey, lets put that new bizarro-world EweToob recruiting commercial up and see what it does.

It doesn't matter than well over half of our nations young people don't meet the moral or physical standards to enter service (because of behavioral problems, health problems, fitness problems, or just plain piece-of-shit-person problems)

Trust ???
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Just my two cents - I could be wrong.

bubba · 01-03-2023, 15:28

I blame this on “Science”, specifically “Modern Medicine”. The child mortality rate from 1800-2020 has dropped significantly causing the pool of people surviving to “mature” (as in the ability to procreate) into adulthood to increase substantially.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ortality-rate/

These trends in the western world are likely to be one of the chief causes in the amount of homosexuality and gender fluid nonsense rising. Children that should have never existed are self-selecting themselves out of the gene pool.

As for the future of the US in general, and US Military specifically I don’t think the issues that we see are much of an issue WRT National security.

1) The rest of the world is getting ready to devolve from the standard of living they currently enjoy into something more like pre 1945 (which is the norm)

2) The US is more or less impervious to any of those concerns because of the US Navy (we have one, no one else does)

3) The US Army is, and always has been, a last resort. Generally when compared to other major powers, the US Army historically needs 1-2 years to get it’s act together. This is because it can. It’s a feature, not a flaw.

4) When (not if) the manufacturing base returns to North America, the people who can / are willing to work will thrive while those who shouldn’t exist will cut off their reproductive organs or try to mate with themselves thereby removing their genes from the population.

Sorry if that is a little disjointed, and there are a lot of different concepts that seem to fit together, but it really is kinda good for us and bad for everyone else.

7624U · 01-03-2023, 16:16

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Originally Posted by bubba

I blame this on “Science”, specifically “Modern Medicine”. The child mortality rate from 1800-2020 has dropped significantly causing the pool of people surviving to “mature” (as in the ability to procreate) into adulthood to increase substantially.

1) The rest of the world is getting ready to devolve from the standard of living they currently enjoy into something more like pre 1945 (which is the norm)

Sorry if that is a little disjointed, and there are a lot of different concepts that seem to fit together, but it really is kinda good for us and bad for everyone else.

More Science

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP2tUW0HDHA

Surf n Turf · 01-03-2023, 18:22

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Originally Posted by bubba

I blame this on “Science”, specifically “Modern Medicine”. The child mortality rate from 1800-2020 has dropped significantly causing the pool of people surviving to “mature” (as in the ability to procreate) into adulthood to increase substantially.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ortality-rate/

These trends in the western world are likely to be one of the chief causes in the amount of homosexuality and gender fluid nonsense rising. Children that should have never existed are self-selecting themselves out of the gene pool.

bubba,

Here is an article that might make your observations accurate

SnT

Chipping away at the mystery of immortality: The race to cheat death as populations age in Asia
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia...cience-3180191

Surf n Turf · 01-03-2023, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Box

Trust ???
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Box,
Generally agree with your entire post. I especially like pointing out just WHO is responsible for this major mess

SnT

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"We the people" are also the ones RAISING those kids that cant pass a PT test, got kicked out of school for drugs, and don't want to be bothered while they are gaming.

We the people don't trust the military because it is ran by people that WE elected to run it - and it is filled with kids that WE the people raised.

By the way, did you read the article where “Thoroughly Modern Milley” hid the car keys from President Trump.

What a sense of humor our senior leadership has. Just knee slappin’

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Gen. Mark Milley Hid Nuke Codes from Trump While Holding Secret Calls with China – Then Armed Taliban with $80 Billion in US Weapons
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4120459/posts

Penn · 01-03-2023, 22:37

Fall 2016 iirc, made 04 a few years ago, of the 15 yrs in service at that time, 9 were deployed, his wife hates/loves me.

Regarding this quote, I'm somewhat convinced that China Plandemic was coauthored by a group of entrenched DC Politico's to undermine that administration, regardless of cost to national fabric. Admittedly, I have trust issues.

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Gen. Mark Milley Hid Nuke Codes from Trump While Holding Secret Calls with China – Then Armed Taliban with $80 Billion in US Weapons
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4120459/posts

bblhead672 · 01-04-2023, 12:04

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Originally Posted by Box

flashback to the 60s...
...the generation that protested war - the generation that protested the establishment - the generation that protested corporate greed - the generation that produced the current politicians that make up an establishment that thrives on corporate greed to pay for never ending wars while enabling politically expedient insider trading.

I couldn't agree more. The anti-establishment people of the 60's/70's ARE the establishment now and the last thing they welcome is anyone being anti-establishment.