Old 01-20-2023, 21:26   #1
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Russia's tank losses

The claim is that Russia has lost more than 2000 tanks since the beginning of their invasion of Ukraine. Has weapon technology made the use of armor in war a thing of the past? Would it be reasonable to expect that our armor units would fare any better?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Ukraine.html

and lost more than 2,000 tanks since Putin's bloody invasion began less than a year ago
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Old 01-21-2023, 08:43   #2
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In VN, I called armor and APCs Zippos because they got lit..
(some said zippo's because they had flamethrowers built-in)

The RPG & B-40 & M72 showed the effectiveness of a thermal charge against Iron. It all started with the development of the WWII Panzerabwehrwaffe.

The current technologies incorporate that charge with GPS & Thermal targeting technology to deliver.

Package that technology in a mobile artillery piece or rocket that can deliver BOOM from 40-50 miles,, Awesome..

Until Force Field technology is developed,,

Yes, Armor is on the losing end of the battlefield.

OBTW,, so is anything or anybody that has a thermal image..


File: Bundesarchiv Bild 101I-710-0371-25, Ukraine, Ausbildung an Panzerabwehrwaffe.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:B...bwehrwaffe.jpg
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Old 02-01-2023, 08:03   #3
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I have no armor background but having read some informative articles written by those who did, it appears to me that two (2) of the main reasons the Russians have lost so many tanks is their piss-poor tactical employment and C2. Oddball & Moriarty gallivanting around the countryside on their own looks cool on the big screen, but modern armor requires coordinated movement and integration. Top attack, dual shaped charge warhead ATGM have been around for decades. You have to ask, why are they so effective all of the sudden.

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Old 02-01-2023, 15:37   #4
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Employment? I recently read a tale of Iraqis turning everything off at night, but then the Cdr couldn't resist popping his lollipop thermal glaring head out of the hatch. Our guys apparently called that an aiming point. They were ostensibly using Sov doctrine... is that stuff still in play 30 years later?
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Old 02-02-2023, 02:54   #5
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Employment? I recently read a tale of Iraqis turning everything off at night, but then the Cdr couldn't resist popping his lollipop thermal glaring head out of the hatch. Our guys apparently called that an aiming point. They were ostensibly using Sov doctrine... is that stuff still in play 30 years later?
Well, I don't know why one would follow it, it didn't work out so well for them in Afghanistan...and certainly not Ukraine, nor the first gulf war either..(Iraqis)
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