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Old 07-15-2016, 07:45   #31
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Time will tell what the French will do, this is the same French government that is alleged to have covered up the torture (Eye removal, disembowment, testicles cut off) of Bataclan victims.
Of Bataclan victims? What sort of meds did you run out of? I ignore you.
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Old 07-15-2016, 08:06   #32
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Driver identified:

Two French police officials say identity papers found alongside the attacker belonged to a 31-year-old Frenchman with previous misdemeanor convictions but no known link to extremist groups, according to the Associated Press.

Local French media report say officials have identified him as Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel and that police searched his apartment Friday morning.

Coincidence or popular name -

Wassim Bouhlel, a Nice native, told the Associated Press that he saw the truck drive into the crowd. “There was carnage on the road,” Bouhlel said. “Bodies everywhere.”

Same article: Check out this article from USA TODAY:

At least 84, including 2 Americans, dead after truck rams crowd in France

http://usat.ly/29UQvRt

Second guy was quoted as witness in one of the very first news reports. Also that he "witnessed" the beginning of the event.

Coincidence or not I'm skeptical until proven otherwise.
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Old 07-15-2016, 08:13   #33
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OSAC members, this is a "truck attack".
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Would an example of irony be a BLM group blocking a major highway and along comes a mooselimb driving a truck at high speed on said highway?
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Small government Americans take heart. If you are outside the United States your government is small indeed.

Meanwhile the UK is "working urgently" to determine if any Britains are caught up in the attack. The new PM is calling a COBRA meeting. Is the US government even watching the news yet?
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Is the US government even watching the news yet?
No. The President is too busy coordinating with Black Live's Matter terrorists the Federal takeover of State and Local law enforcement.

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Obama Pressures Police Leaders To Negotiate With 30 of His Radical Allies

President Barack Obama pressured a few police leaders to attend a closed-door White House meeting with roughly 30 of his radical left-wing allies, where he pushed for federal rules to govern the nation’s 18,000 police districts.

In his comments to reporters after the Wednesday meeting, Obama repeated his suggestion that white racism caused the shooting murder of five White or Hispanic police officers in Dallas, and he showed reporters that he’s fully supporting the radical activists’ campaign against the nation’s police leaders.

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Small government Americans take heart. If you are outside the United States your government is small indeed.

Meanwhile the UK is "working urgently" to determine if any Britains are caught up in the attack. The new PM is calling a COBRA meeting. Is the US government even watching the news yet?
You have to remember who the current and former bosses of the DoS are. Also remember that in Paris they locked the gates and would not let Americans in need - IN.

Incompetence leading the incompetent!
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Would an example of irony be a BLM group blocking a major highway and along comes a mooselimb driving a truck at high speed on said highway?
That's asinine!
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That's asinine!
Maybe so.
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Maybe so.
Your premise that a Muslim would do that is what's mostly asinine. Will an angry white supremacist with anger management issues fulfill your prescient thoughts? Very likely.

I'd be more of the opinion that now that the world knows the power of 19-ton truck vs. Kalashnikov and suicide vests. The truck is Optimus Prime in destructive power and the police are incapable of stopping it.

Expect more attacks like this in the future.
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Your premise that a Muslim would do that is what's mostly asinine. Will an angry white supremacist with anger management issues fulfill your prescient thoughts? Very likely.

I'd be more of the opinion that now that the world knows the power of 19-ton truck vs. Kalashnikov and suicide vests. The truck is Optimus Prime in destructive power and the police are incapable of stopping it.

Expect more attacks like this in the future.
I see and agree with your contention that a member of the peaceful religion would do such a thing. The extra bacon this morning must have interfered with my clear thinking.

It's obvious the problem is with gun loving 'Muricans.
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What? This is the first I've heard of this. Do you have any reliable sources that you could link to?
Here, assuming the translation is correct.

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France ‘Suppressed News of Gruesome Torture’ at Bataclan Massacre

A French government committee has heard testimony, suppressed by the French government at the time and not released to the media, that the killers in the Bataclan tortured their victims on the second floor of the club.

Police witnesses in Parliament said they vomited when they saw the disfigured bodies.

Wahhabist killers apparently gouged out eyes, castatrated victims, and shoved their testicles in their mouths. They may also have disembowelled some poor souls. Women were stabbed in the genitals – and all the torture was, victims told police, filmed by Daesh or Islamic state for propaganda. As such, medics did not release the bodies of torture victims to the families, investigators said. Prosecutors claimed this was “a rumour” on the grounds that sharp knives were not found at the scene. They also claimed maybe shrapnel had caused the injuries...

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Speaking of testicles, I saw a video last night of a man on a motorbike ride alongside just before the event began in earnest and jump from his still moving motorbike on to the side of the truck at the drivers door.

That takes some huge balls! I don't think he had much chance to change the outcome but he tried.

1.36 into this video: (somewhat graphic NSFW - Australian news channel)

https://youtu.be/Yl5d7NkD_Cc

Now, if he had been that heroic with a Glock 17 in hand, this event would have been over shortly after it started.

Maybe the French will see that their citizens are not afraid, just unprepared and stripped of their rights to self-protection.
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This example of proof of concept, will demonstrate to ISIS followers the means of atrocity lay in the easily accessible.

It will interesting to see how POTUS ties in gun control to this terrorist attack and if this doesn't convince the sheep that terrorism is not an abstract theory nothing will.

I agree 100% armed citizens would have had the potential to mitigate the carnage
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Old 07-15-2016, 11:27   #45
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In a different 'box'

Meanwhile as TPTB move to ban high-capacity trucks, someone is training with a large watercraft to slip into an area where there is a big event occurring on/near the water, with a big audience. Airplane, truck... Tested concepts; just different TO&E.
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