Social Impact of Wuhan Virus

[Golf1echo]

Originally Posted by Airbornelawyer

The Asian Flu (H2N2) pandemic of 1957-58 killed an estimated 116,000 people in the USA. The US population was 172 million in 1957 and 175 million in 1958, so that would be equivalent to about 219,000 deaths today, based on a U.S. population of 328 million.

The 1968 (H3N2) pandemic killed approximately 100,000. Like COVID-19, many, if not most of the deaths were among people older than 65, so it is hard to tell how many were excess deaths. The year 1968 is when the US population passed 200 million, so adjusting for population that would be equivalent to about 164,000 deaths today.

Does anyone recall these leading to any accommodations or adaptations to the way we lived our lives or organized our society, other than what-should-be-obvious individual adjustments like "don't forget to wash your hands"?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...-pandemic.html
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...-pandemic.html

Never paid much attention to the totality of deaths from pandemics, never knew anyone who died. I was surprised to see this on Web Md https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/n...-flu-last-year. What is hard to be surprised by is liberals taking advantage of a crisis, they have an incredible record of doing so.

Libya, Haiti, Ukraine, Iran, china, their own States, etc...

If I was an investigator I would get copies of Nan’s travel itinerary and start with that!

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Airbornelawyer

Does anyone recall these leading to any accommodations or adaptations to the way we lived our lives or organized our society, other than what-should-be-obvious individual adjustments like "don't forget to wash your hands"?

The short answer to your question on both is "No." I was a kid for one of 'em, but don't even recall these things as being a monumental impact, or of seeing any concern in my parents, no change in school routines, no social/economic impacts...
Gahr nichts, Nada, Zip.

[JJ_BPK]

Originally Posted by Airbornelawyer

Does anyone recall these leading to any accommodations or adaptations to the way we lived our lives or organized our society, other than what-should-be-obvious individual adjustments like "don't forget to wash your hands"?

1958, 10YO, running carefree, my mother was a private duty RN, most weekend parties involved several of her RN buddies w/families, don't remember hearing or doing anything related to flues or virus.

1969, 21YO, running my a$$ off at Ft Benning & Ft Bragg, spent July & August in KW, no lockdowns, no fever ck's, NADA...

[Penn]

ABNLawyer, that’s a fascinating bit of comparative research, do you think we have been manipulated? Should we have shut down based on the death ratio btw the 1957/58 and 1968 vs Covid-19. imo, the decision of not shutting down and dealing with a fully 24/7 MSM cycle, would have been viewed as a catastrophic mistake by Trump, if 216K possible deaths were the result of that decision, which errs on the side of caution and electability.

The economy takes a hit, but fault is laid at the alter of caution, he gets a pass, but to consider a possible force/group capable of orchestrating a virus pandemic, would point to a worldwide conspiracy complicit with DNC goals. Not far removed from a recent foreign power inclusion with the leadership of the DNC and NSA(Clapper), CIA (Brennan), FBI (Comedy). Have I now reached the Tin Foil membership standard?

The only action in motion currently is the lockdown continuation linking the need for mail in voting and harvesting as necessary.

JJ

1969, 21YO, running my a$$ off at Ft Benning & Ft Bragg, spent July & August in KW, no lockdowns, no fever ck's, NADA...

When I think of Bragg, the first though is always the heat from that summer in 1969. Arrived 7/24.

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by Airbornelawyer

The Asian Flu (H2N2) pandemic of 1957-58 killed an estimated 116,000 people in the USA. The US population was 172 million in 1957 and 175 million in 1958, so that would be equivalent to about 219,000 deaths today, based on a U.S. population of 328 million.

The 1968 (H3N2) pandemic killed approximately 100,000. Like COVID-19, many, if not most of the deaths were among people older than 65, so it is hard to tell how many were excess deaths. The year 1968 is when the US population passed 200 million, so adjusting for population that would be equivalent to about 164,000 deaths today.

Does anyone recall these leading to any accommodations or adaptations to the way we lived our lives or organized our society, other than what-should-be-obvious individual adjustments like "don't forget to wash your hands"?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...-pandemic.html
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-res...-pandemic.html

I’ve superficially referenced the ‘58 and ‘68 Asian flus before this outbreak.

But I wasn’t aware they had even made it to the US, or had many US deaths attributed to them.

Two key differences between then and now is the substantially higher average travel, particularly intercontinental point to point, but also domestic travel, is a more dangerous vector today than yesterday.

And increased urbanisation(pop density for majority, although not all).

There’s certainly going to be a whole lot of interesting AARs coming out the back end of this, although it’s safe to say some partisan AARs will probably already have been written.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Flagg

...although it’s safe to say some partisan AARs will probably already have been written.

X-ring, with certainty sir.
The CDC probably has theirs at least 1/2 done in DRAFT, and it will include a lot of "not invented here = bad."

[Box]

One thing is certain - Wuhan Pneumonia has helped accelerate the devolution of modern society. Politicians seem to get worse by the day and people seem to be entertained by political incompetence instead of enraged.
I am giving up drinking for a month.

Sorry... bad punctuation in that last sentence - it should say:
I'm giving up. Drinking for a month.

[Badger52]

Chinese prop artists attempting to solicit good reviews from US states backfires in Wisconsin. Breitbart cites a Radio Free Asia article.

Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported on Thursday that the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) outrageous effort to pressure the legislature of Wisconsin to pass a resolution praising Beijing for its handling of the coronavirus effort “backfired spectacularly,” leading to a motion that will condemn the CCP for lying to the world if it passes.

The Chinese consulate sent emails in February and March to Wisconsin Senate President Roger Roth, a Republican, urging him to pass a resolution praising China. The emails even contained the text of a resolution written by the CCP for the Wisconsin legislature to rubber stamp, praising the Chinese government for being “transparent and quick in sharing key information of the virus with the WHO and the international community” – the exact opposite of what actually happened.

Roth told the Wisconsin Examiner in an interview last week he was so stunned by the audacity of the first email, and its dubious origin from a Hotmail account, that he dismissed it as a prank. When he received a follow-up email from the consulate in March, he instructed his staff to research it, and they determined it was a genuine communique from the Chinese consulate, whose diplomats sometimes use Hotmail and other public email services because they are “faster” than their official email accounts.

Roth fired back a one-word response to the CCP: “Nuts.” This was the answer famously given by American commander Brig. Gen. Anthony McAuliffe when a different gang of fascists demanded his surrender at Bastogne in 1944.

“I was mad as hell,” Roth told RFA on Thursday.

So far the Wisconsin story appears to have elicited very little response from those who previously claimed foreign intervention in American politics was the worst crime imaginable.

[Pete]

"Nuts"

Gotta' love it

Wonder how many other states got the memo?

[JJ_BPK]

Originally Posted by Pete

"Nuts"

Gotta' love it

Wonder how many other states got the memo?

and kept the contribution to their re-election campaign?

[Badger52]

didn't get the coronavirus.

But that's just AA ball compared to the South Koreans:

South Korea successfully held in-person elections this month without finding evidence for a single coronavirus transmission at an election station, South Korea’s Ministry of Health and Welfare (MOHW) announced this week, the Epoch Times reported on Thursday.
“Twenty-nine million voters participated in the April 15 parliamentary election. … Not one [coronavirus] case related to the election has been reported during the 14 days of incubation period,” Yoon Tae-ho, MOHW’s director-general for public health policy, said at a press briefing.

Yoon thanked staff and voters who followed safety measures during elections, which included requiring voters to wear masks and gloves when casting ballots, maintaining at least a three-foot distance from one another, and regular disinfection of polling stations, according to the Epoch Times.

Now what was all that claptrap about national mail-in voting?

[Old Dog New Trick]

Originally Posted by Badger52

Now what was all that claptrap about national mail-in voting?

Keep your eye on the nut shell and don’t get distracted!

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick

Keep your eye on the nut shell and don’t get distracted!

Which one.....Pelosi, AOC, Schumer, Schiff? The list of nut shells just keeps growing

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick

Keep your eye on the nut shell and don’t get distracted!

Precisely. The question was rhetorical, as they're going to push that one hard.

[Box]

Society is stupid.

How many people are already talking with clear indication that they have conflated "the test" with being a cure???

The test saves lives - we need more testing
blah blah blah

Patient: Hey Doc, I have no symptoms - I feel fine, no fever, no aches, no sore thorat. Never felt better.
...can I get a test to make sure I'm not dying.
Doc: Sure thing.... you're clean. Another life saved by the test !!!

Patient: - I'm 72, fever, sore throat, aches, cough, short of breath, lots of problems, can I get a test?
Doc: Sure..... you've got COVID-19, its a good thing you got the test !!!
Patient: Thats great doc I'm feeling better alrea..................
Media: PRESIDNET TRUMP KILLED THIS MAN !!!!



THAT is the real societal impact of "the virus" - society demonstrating or collective ignorance and stupidity.